1. Satanism blurs the line between true bonafied religion an a crappy 6th-grade attention-craving stunt to a point of nondescript monotony and questionable existence.
2. Some people find it rather fun.
Satanism is a bunch of goth fags doing drugs, having orgies and sacrificing cats after raping them. This "philosophical" aspect of satanism etc is something aspies use to look cool and edgy.
Isn't Satanism the literal praise of Satan.
No angel of light Lucifer
But full on "FUCK HUMANITY"
I looked up Satanism and only got a bunch of lists of books.
Nvm I found a quote on the wikis.
They are edgy.
Satanists are goth fags who rape cats in name of Satan. Check my post above.
All this books are from wanna-be smart idiots for wanna-be edgy aspies.
Don't get me wrong, I like pussy as much as the next guy.... but really?
Yeah, I still think Luciferianism has the same problem as "Atheistis Satanism" or whatever they call it. It's taking a biblical character and using them as a religious symbol, despite not actually believing that they exist. Why the hell just not say "I'm an athiest"?
Because that would be the boring way to do it.
Endmaster who let you out of the death gods realm.
Why follow Confucianism.
Why not just say "I'm an Athiest"
Not everything has to have a set god.
It can be a teachings.
I'm sorry my own personal beliefs just rustle your jimmies ever so much.
I thought this was "What was your religion thread" Not "Lol y u do dis"
Then again Confucianism isn't really a religion but more of a philosophy, but eh.
... I'm too lazy to look up what Confucianism is
What grade are you in?
Not asking like "LOL UR STUPID"
But they teach this in history...
I heard about it in atleast 7th grade.
And learning more about it in depth in about 10th.
Confucianism was a set up ideas set up by, you guessed it, confucis (I cant spell).
Basically it had to do with Yin Yang type shit and practiced women being in their place and men not treating them in shit, which on paper sounds a bit harsh but eh, it worked for China.
China then went back and forth between Confucianism and Bhudism for a while before deciding Confucianism was the sexiest thing around, because I think the khans didn't flip out over it.
And theres the history lesson for today.
Former Christian, now Deist, although it's not a religion, but more of personal, philosophical view on the world and god-stuffs. And I kinda modified it a bit on the way (since my teenage years :P).
Why oh why did we have to bring religion to this site...?
There's been religious discussions on this site before, I think Drakilian even hosted some. (Or one, that I know of.)
I was christened by my parents but i do not follow, i actually believe that religion is one of the major problems in the world.
Don't mean to upset anyone and i am happy for other to believe what they wish as long as it makes them happy and causes no harm to others.
Its the cause of too many arguments and conflicts.
Well I don't know if religion itself is the problem, the problem is that sometimes people do some really messed up shit and use religion as an excuse.
^ This. Religion isn't the problem, humanity is. As long as the arguments are enlightening discussions though, I have no problem. All the religions and philosophies of the world should gather together to explain their beliefs and share their thoughts nonviolently, I think we could all benefit from it.
I understand that is the case a lot of the time but sometimes its the head of the faith. Look at the crusades. Its not just that though i dislike the way in near all religions man is potrayed as sinner and not worthy. Any king that places himself above his subjects is not fit to rule, this also should apply to creators (do they exist).
Lol, weird, I see things exactly the opposite. If a God isn't perfect or "divine" then he's in no way superior to man, and if God isn't superior to man, then what makes him a God?
Yes they may be superior and thats fine but why does that make us not worthy and sinners?
it still also makes them no more important. I have greater lifestyle, skills, wealth and health than others but i am no more important.
Well that never really bothered me 'cos "sinner" is basically a word to describe somebody who has done something wrong at some point in their life, which means everyone. Being what religion calls a "sinner" doesn't make somebody bad or evil, it just means they're human.
I think an exception should be made, as these creators seem to be described as utterly perfect incomprehensibly complex beings who really don't work with power the same way a person would. Then there's always the thought that the creator loves humanity and is always with them all the time as opposed to sitting up in the clouds.
Thats why the creator of us cannot be perfect, to be completely perfect he would not be able to create a race with so many problems. TO be a perfect craftsman the object you make must have no flaws, He also cannot have perfect morals as he leaves us to our own suffering. He gave us this world full of temptation and just left us to destroy ourselves with it.
Would you give an irresponsible teen millions and let him go free into the worl? no because children needs guidance with the gifts that have been given. The teen would be killed in a drug filled sex orgy within days.
Wouldn't it be horrendously boring without problems, though? It's safe to assume that our god may come from a similar state of mind where without bad, there could be no good, so it gave us flaws so we wouldn't be robots. Perfection is flawed in the note that, if it were life, it would be utterly boring.
But if they were perfect then they would be like robots and not interested in whether it was borings or not.
Like I said, since the god is apparently capable of love, according to stories, maybe it too comes from a world of ethics and emotions, and would like its creations to feel joy when they can. Hence the idea of heaven.
Yey! Now there's a religion I can back. ^_^
Chuck welcomes all who are worthy! -takes out scanner- Okay, you're good. Anyways, PRAISE THE ROUNDHOUSE KICK!
I'm pretty much an atheist, myself. I've never been big on taking things by faith alone, and I don't agree with some of the moral standings on most of the religions. I'd rather not get into which ones, because I'm weary about starting a fight over it, but there it is.
In short, I believe that I don't need a book to tell me what's right or wrong.
On the other hand, some of the prettiest songs I've sung in chorus were religious, so there are kudos for that l.o
I...should probably shut up, now...
P.S: I see you are a fan of the northern lights to huh? Seeing them from up close is on my to do list next to getting married (if not sterile), then get kids and conquer the Antartic.
Oh geez, I can only imagine how gorgeous the aurora borealis is, in person. It's definitely a worthy thing to do.
Yeah I'd love to see it and have someone to share the experience with.
Can you think of anything more romantic than that? Only thing that could ruin it is the low temperature but still....
Wait, why wouldn't you get married if you were sterile?
Personal reasons. I think that my biological duty here is to find a mate and reproduce, if I am sterile then I'd hate myself for tying a woman in such a relationship and I'd also NEVER find it in me to adopt a kid. Then again I haven't really though about all this much, the thought itself only recently crossed my mind after... something.
Nah nothing like that, just a random thought I got, dunno what or why.
Did the doctor say something about your fertility last checkup?
Nope, but I'll soon go to check it out. I don't know anything yet but I'll probably find out in less than a week.
Oh, well, I, uh, hope it isn't crushed or anything... :-/
Doc results out, everything works fine :).
Why would you NOT adopt a kid? The world is grossly overpopulated, you'd do everyone a favor by ending one kid's suffering through adoption. Of course, there's the really old Abramic belief that the afterlife is brought on by one's offspring, but that's really ancient pre-Jewiness, and really not an Orthodox kinda thing.
I know, and I think adoption is great but it's not something I'd find myself doing.
Buddist. Sorry.. Lame joke.
He could be joking about how Buddhists don't really... Hm... Y'know, I don't get it either...
You know being European and all, and Buddhists are all very rare and...
Never mind, I'll shut up now..
No one gets my jokes :(
THIS ISN'T CHINA GOD DAMNIT.
Wait they basically gave up on that, mostly, maybe.
India? They have a few.
I DONT KNOW
THIS JOKE IS TERRIBLE>
Actually its really good!
BECAUSE NO ONE CARES ABOUT BUDDISM
I dunno, there's actually a lot more Buddists than there are Jews, Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses, so they gotta be somewhere
I would say there are more Mormons.
There was a mormon in my school, was a huge dick.
... I read that as "There was a Mormon in my school WITH a huge dick." Was thinking, "... Dat's nice?"
But nope, there's about 350 million Buddists and only about 14 million Mormons. Buddists win!
Not on this site though :[
I always wanted to meet a real Buddhist, because I hope they are as wise and philosophical as in the movies.. But that's probably my inner ignorance speaking -.-
No, a lot of them are a mix. Some label themselves Buddhist even if they haven't visited a temple for a LONG time, others just don't act like Buddhists (respect of self and others, enlightment shits, etc.)
First couple years in my high school they thought I was a Satanist except for one person who thought I was into Voodoo for some strange reason.
Aren't you into Cthulhitology or Necronism anyhow?
Might've had something to do with the pincushion doll you kept in your desk and it's remarkable resemblance to your gym teacher
Lol, well it was probably due to the black clothing and skull shirts but really I didn't bother trying to deter that line of thinking since it was pretty apparent most peoples minds were made up. In time though that image faded by the end of 10th grade.
There was a guy I sort of knew that went to another school who really was into the whole Satanism stuff, he already had some mental issues though since he cut into his damn hand in the middle of science class. They transferred him to another school where I guess he wasn't into Satanism anymore or at least didn't feel the need to break out into "Hail Satan!" and start mutilating himself.
A few years later he ended up killing his grandparents, stealing their car and money and tried to escape with his girlfriend, but he got caught and of course thrown in prison.
As I remember he stabbed and bludgeoned them to death.
Him and girlfriend I guess thought they were going to be Mickey and Mallory, but they didn't get very far.
Oh danny boy
The pipes, the pipes are calling.
-Or something like that.
Idiots these days... There are so many better, more discreet ways that it could've been done!
They still stab and bludgeon people to death in Detroit too.
Well, I don’t know when I’m ever going to work this into a conversation, so this is as good as place as any…
“Your lives are meaningless, your deity or deities are a joke, your world views are lies, your hopes are false, you'll never see your dead loved ones again, you're all future worm food and you're all presently a bunch of retards.”
P.S. Fuck atheists too.
(Special thanks to Kiel for this statement. Added the atheist bit, since I didn't want them to feel left out)
Have you ever thought about doing Motivational Speeches or working on the Samaritan Helplines :) Life has as much meaning or substance as we choose to give it, mankind is the measure of all things and all the religions, dreams and world views we have good or bad are products of our own minds (some might say humans have been conduits for the Gods like wires for electricity which is possible I guess). Fighting and dying over ideas of religion makes as much sense as fighting and dying of ideas of countries and borders though I guess.
You just remind me of somebody, that's all.
Haha ah, makes sense :) For some reason I thought you meant Hitler and was thinking "did he have syphilis"? Of course you have to have sex to get that so probably no... Nietzsche was an interesting philosopher but I think catching an std, going insane and dying were all bad career moves :)
But you have to wonder how much his personal worldview was affected by the disease. Of course, a lot of creative geniuses have had syphilis as well, so I'm not really dissing his teachings.
Kiel said that? Shit, I thought he was at least a closet Christian. Not that it matters.
He's a "staunch theist" of ambiguous religious background, that statement was a summarization of every atheist in the youtube comment section ever.
Ambiguous religious background, huh? That explains his fascination with infant mortality.
Damn...How does everybody know about each other's religion on this site? lol
What I hate about some atheists is that they turn Atheism into a religion! With fucking rules and everything! Saying that you must train your children to never say "Oh God." Because there is no God.
I myself am an Atheist. I only do things if I want to do them, not because some Flying Spaghetti Monster or some shit says I have to!
I'm an agnostic, and I plan to raise my children in the most spiritual-free way possible. I want them to decide for themselves of they believe in God, or not.
Is there a religion in which we don't care about god or anything? I don't know. Technically though, I am agnostic.
there are a few spiritual philosophies that don't have Gods in them, and some 'religions' originally were life philosophies and only later turned into religions (I don't know any off the top of my head, though). But in most cases the best thing to do is make one yourself based on your experiences and beliefs.
Ah man, I should have kept my 6 hour prayer sessions hidden.
Idk I just like there teachings. xD
Wait, isn't Daoism an ideology and not a religion?
Taoism comes in two flavors. In the west, it is treated as an ideology, while in the east, there are some pretty strong ritual aspects.
Ah ok. Although I'm guessing that the religion has been formed by the followers as I'm pretty sure that Lao-Tzu didn't want it to become a belief, but a philosophy or something like that.
wow i didn´t know that about the diffrences, wonder if they didn´t acknowledge it because of the desclose it Chinese Oppostion, Don´t know how much influence it had in China though, just Japan
So, you're a Taoist from Mexico. Doesn't that make you a Tacoist?
Russian Orthodox! But I am not very religious because I can't go to any churches of my kind. ;( Stupid 'Murica.
Formerly Mormon, currently an Atheist. Definitely prefer it over being Mormon/Christian/Jew/whatever the fuck because I don't have to waste three hours every Sunday that I could spend playing Fallout.
'because I don't have to waste three hours every Sunday that I could spend playing Fallout.'
Good sir, you're going places.
Places that only have Morrowind, Madden, and the original RE.
Well, I'm an Indian who is pure agnostic and who also happens to be an anti-theist. Used to be really Catholic a long time ago.
How can you be an agnostic and an anti-theist, if you don't mind my asking?
Anti-Theist in the sense, I am against religion and religious movements, due to irrelevant side-rules they tend to take, which has no connection to the major teachings itself. You can't deny that the major teachings of almost every major religion, are well, mostly about how we should do good unto others and stuff, but, people tend to take the side bullshit more seriously, eg, in parts of my country, beef is banned due to religious sentiments, and you can get a jail sentence for having some, and have fights over it. Which is why I'm anti-theist. I think Anti-religion(ist?) would've been more proper since I'm agnostic and all, but yeah.
I'm agnostic cause I' don't think we have found enough proof to affirm the absence of a creator. I lean towards atheism, however.
That was my main hang-up. "Anti-theist" implies that you are opposed to any belief in one or more gods. Where as "agnostic" implies that you do not take a stance on the existence or inexistence of a deity or deities. I think "anti-religious" explains fairly well your beliefs.
I have rather strong feelings on beef, but not because I think cows have some strange maternal relationship with humanity.
I agree. The cow issue has been something on for years. It's like, our country is filled with fundamentalists, who have finally gotten power. And the things they do are frightening. I mean, people who speak out against religion in public are shot, Muslims, and Christians are being attacked, and there's nothing we can do about it. The other day, this dude who allegedly had beef in his house was beaten to death. There were even educated Hindus who were supporting what happened. I'm not against Hinduism, the core beliefs are amazing infact, but would you kill someone over your faith and then blame the person you killed? The things news channels report too are strange, from superstitious bullshit to bitching about celebs, in a very inclusive way.
I've lived in Saudi Arabia, seen worse.
The beef lynching episode which I was talking about happened at a village. In the city, I live in ATM, vegetarians actually kick non vegetarians outta their houses sometimes cause they can't stand them.
Yeah, some vegetarians just need to chill the fuck out. Of course, you can't even ask a non-vegetarian to consider lowering their meat consumption without it being taken as a complete affront on everything in which they believe. You can't see compromise on either side; same with religion. Which is why I actually don't believe that religion is the cause of all the world's conflicts. Any time you allow people to have differing opinions, there is going to be a fight. Any time you try to suppress those opinions, there is going to be a fight. Every law is ultimately founded on an opinion. Every regime is ultimately founded on an opinion. Yeah, religion is a vehicle for hatred, but so is every decision we make, every path we follow. We try to quantify opinions, to say that one is better than the other, because it preserves life, human dignity, but we're really just a bunch of fucking animals threatened by the thoughts in everyone else's heads.
"Of course, you can't even ask a non-vegetarian to consider lowering their meat consumption without it being taken as a complete affront on everything in which they believe. "
You're making an ass of u and me here. '>_> I've been asked that...and I was more than willing to comply after finding out some things about sausages and all that stuff.
Everything else I agree with though. ^_^'
I don't see considering lowering my meat consumption as an affront to everything I believe in, I see it as an affront to convenient food-getting. And then there's also that whole thing about biting into a steak or something in front of some of the more annoying vegetarians I know, which, since I'm me, I couldn't ever give up...
Or you could eat fake chicken in front of them and not tell 'em its fake, so you can get the joy of watching them squirm and the added irony that you are doing exactly what they want you to.
The only thing that tastes shittier than fake meat (Unless it's carrot bacon, but that isn't bacon, nor do I pretend it is) is doing what someone you hate wants you to do, ironically or not. It would be like beating cleverly disguised Black people in front of Hitler in order to piss him off.
You know...you should really learn to laugh at yourself sometimes. You know who else had problems laughing at himself? Ted Kaczynski.
I shouldn't have said fake chicken, because a) I don't actually trust that shit, b)it's expensive as Hell, and c) your right, it tastes horrible. However, there is a ground beef substitute made out of garbanzo beans (dry mix, so you know it's legit) that you mix with an egg and some oil and then brown. I've only tried the Mexican and Italian flavors, and I was only impressed with the Mexican. When it's about finished cooking, throw in about half a cup of salsa, and it makes the best damn taco filling ever.
Pff, if I didn't laugh at myself, I wouldn't have gone to such ridiculous lengths to invoke Godwin's law. I was really trying hard for that one, y'know!... Regardless, being a vindictive prick is a hobby that I take very seriously, and I won't let it be compromised by the consumption of meat substitutes, because from everything I've tasted, there really aren't any good substitutes that take the same (or less) amounts of money/effort. I'm not going to attempt to replace it, since that doesn't work and really just feels to me like denial of some sort. The thing of the matter is finding dishes without meat that taste good, and there are an infinite number of those things. I don't eat that much meat to begin with, (I think last time I had it was a week ago) but I'm not going to go out of my way to avoid it.
I actually don't eat many meat substitutes, and I don't want you to think I do. I was just trying to provide you with a more compassionate approach to tormenting the psyches of your enemies.
"Enemies" and "Compassion" don't belong in the same sentence, unless it has something to do with showing compassion to the enemies of my enemies, or causing the friends of my enemies to inexplicably withhold their compassion from them and drive them into irreversible depression, or just draining any form of joy from my enemies, (including basic human sympathy) from their lives in general.
If you are going to take the "dick to animals because you like them and I don't like you" route, I suggest that you at least approach the situation with a greater bit of personal honesty and flare for the avante-garde.
Take a young foal, drag her in front of a bunch of vegetarians, then run her through with sword while invoking the name of Epona, the horse / execution-by-sword-impalement goddess, before butchering the horse with a chainsaw, making her into deli meat, and having a giant sandwich orgy on top of whatever's left (which will likely be nothing more than entrails, but you know the old saying, "as fun as fucking a pile of horse guts" (Don't ask me how old that saying is; that's not important)).
Can't, living animals are too expensive. And then I have to clean it up, and then I'll have even more annoying PETA douches ramming me 24/7.
Really, though, it's not like I dislike animals, I just value humans (Or rather, the humans that I care about.) way more than them, and since they serve a practical and delicious use in meat form, I'm not going to avoid eating meat if it's the most healthy/enjoyable meal option on virtue of the fact that a creature of sub-sapient intelligence and cognizance died to make it, because it's already been killed anyway.
But hey, I guess I'll take your advice and only be a dick to animals that I don't like. I would be perfectly happy to follow all those vegetarians home and sample their cat collections once a week.
Damn, Peckerface (penguin joke, ftw), I thought we were just fucking around, then you come in here swinging around words like "cognizance" and "sub-sapience", which are quite impressive coming from someone who isn't even cognizant of supply & demand. Has Drakoblare's absence made you the designated representative of unfounded anthropocentrism or is this sudden aggression simply a rebound from years of impeded sexual development?
To steer this topic back onto the intended path, my mom dragged me into her new church today. Baptist. Preacher is a family friend (he seems more like a rogue history professor than a preacher, though; digressed into a discussion of ostracism and Athenian culture, for whatever reason. All in all, fairly awesome guy). Still was far from an enjoyable experience for someone who considers himself irreligious and doesn't like feeling like he's lying to people.
Nope, not really, I just wanted to sound like an annoying meat advocate to highlight how hypocritical it is to just hate on annoying vegetarians.I don't truly hate on anyone, but I do like annoying people who annoy me, and I like eating meat. I'd be glad to eat only cats, (Because fuck those assholes) squirrels, (Because they're a bird-feeder-theiving nuisance) roosters & toms, (Which are among some of the biggest assholes in the fucking Kingdom Animalia) crickets, (They're annoying) and fish (Which can't feel pain, traumatization, or meaningful anguish, outside of half-seconds of fear reflexes.) all my life if it meant not having double standards, but, y'know, there's that supply and demand thing that makes fish expensive, said poultry into over-processed chicken-jerkey because people have problems with testosterone-ed meat, and keeps squirrels and crickets off the market. Until the day that everyone realizes I'm always right, I'm not going to purposefully avoid food that's convenient, out of apathy, enjoyment, and convenience.
And yeah, most preachers/pastors/whathaveye are rogue history professors, since most of the college and scriptural courses they have for them are basically just history in the general mediterranean/middle eastern area with bible excerpts.
Fuck you, I'm part goldfish on my mom's side, and I'll have you know that it isn't half-seconds. We have a whole nine se- Wait. What are we on about?
I...are you even attacking me at this point or are you having a verbal seizure? Where are we going with this whole mess?
That's quite obvious, but I've never actually met a preacher who liked talking about that shit.
Nah, the point of the post was that I didn't mean to attack/imply shit to begin with. But I cannot emphasize enough how much Roosters (well, most intact male poultry/lizards) just completely suck. Everyone is morally obligated to eat them.
You know, we're both going to end up getting shot sometime in the near future. XD
Agree that roosters suck. Geese suck worse, though, male or female.
How about you two make a separate discussion and talk all you want? you're clogging the forum! (and btw, I'm a meat eater since animals are sub-sapient, but they still have enough intelligence to deserve respect. Even plants have intelligence, though that's only been coming out recently. humans deserve more, but we don't deserve everything, and we're being more destructive to the environment(s) than we have a right to be(shameless environmentalist plug))
Clogging the forum?... You mean, like, with derailments?... Huh, there was the distinct, powerful aroma of "You must be New Here, lolol" wafting in, but I couldn't find the source until now... It smells of pineapples and window cleaner...
Still though, I am of the firm belief that food is murder, and so is digestion. They should be banned.
what about energy then? When you learn to get it from the 'universal potential' (aka nothingness), please teach me. Until then, DON'T BAN FOOD, AS BAD AS IT CAN BE SOMETIMES!!!!!!!!!!!
We redesign our skin cells to allow for autotrophy.
Edit: I had a very large and involved post here, but I know that I'm likely going to have to look at the answers to this post in the morning and I don't want it to screw up my day, so let's talk about something happy, like sex or waffles.
If your family's Hindu, nobody suspects you. And most agnostics aren't very open about their religion, for fear that people will discriminate against us/say we eat beef and kill us. So I think he'll be fine in India. Incidentally, I just noticed how easy it is to tell people things while making them think they were clever for figuring them out, like if I used Bhaarat Maa instead of India, you would all know that I'm... actually, you figure it out, waste a few seconds of your lives.
luckily most hindus aren't like that, Hindu philosophy is supposed to be one of the very few religions that let other have their own religion without repercussions from the Hindus.
The liberalised secular Hindus are great. Most Hindus, who are fundamentalists don't know that the concept of their religion is Dharma, or Do good unto others, and let good be done unto you. They are pretty narrow minded, and believe that the people who follow Abrahamic faiths are 'lost sheep' and try to bring them back into the fold.
the concepts of Hinduism are beautiful, but most of the people who follow it aren't.
But I don't like tacos! :j (response to reply above)
There are times when I've not really bothered to think about whether God is truly present or absent. But seeing the bad results religion has given, and seeing the government of a country bend the knee almost always towards one community makes me anti-theist.
Honestly, yes. And being bisexual is also hard here, since an anti-LGBT law in any country always, has religious reasoning behind it. Remember the lines, 'Homosexuals are abominations to our lord?'
That's not exactly what the verse says, but yes. In the Old Testament, God also condemned marriage between the Israelites and people of other nationalities (to prevent idolatry from becoming commonplace or the nation from dissolving or something like that), and many Christians in the Southern US use that to condemn interracial marriages between whites and blacks.
Protestant Christian but I guess that allows for me to be cynical about the human institution of Christianity. The past year or so I actually lost a lot of my faith and told myself I was agnostic but now, I guess I've been believing in Christ in my own adapted way? I dunno, Catholic Church is being a boo boo and I was never a Catholic so I think I just found my own way of interpreting the Bible.
Obviously, but should we use red miso or white miso?
The kind that thinks that when you die you die, lights out , no ones home, just nothingness no soul no anything just worm food the end... You should get the picture now.
people are starting to disprove that (or more precisely, they're proving magic, and if magic is real and we have an energetic body etc., then why can't the energetic body stay after death?), there aren't many and they're all called crazy, but there are still enough that anyone looking at the big picture would take them part-serious-ly. And with my usual '...' flair: Gods, on the other hand..........
P.S.: Not God, since there are so many early cultures that believe in multiple gods and there has been a steady decline of spiritualism over time, meaning that these cultures were more likely correct about spiritual matters than people from 20 A.D. or something (assuming that there are gods, of course)
Just because there is a lot of them doesn't necessarily mean that they are "starting to disprove" anything. Still, if you have any sources, I would be interested to see them?
How does that prove that polytheism, monotheism, and atheism aren't just phases that go hand in hand with societal development?
I was talking about the soul part, a part of you that was left behind and was not physical (and most likely could hold your actual consciousness instead of only a partial imitation of it) would be called a soul, wouldn't it? May I draw your attention to the first parentheses in my post above? (Olde-speak! )
If our mind is separable from our body, why do we lose consciousness when sustaining head injuries or suffering poor flow of oxygen to our brains? Or rather, what would these people you are talking about say about the issue?
Our mind may be separable from our body, but that doesn't mean we're good at it. Some groups say that you separate but don't remember the experience, and others say that you don't separate unless your body really can't handle the presence of your consciousness anymore or you purposely go out of your body (poor oxygen flow isn't no oxygen flow, so there would still be a weak tie to the brain). I spent a whole month researching this when all my games seemed boring, so that won't trip me up. A follow-up question might do it, though, I was more focused on trying to figure out general concepts than on exiting the body.
Now where did I put that websites about 'real magic' list... *searches mental attic* ...I've got nothing, sorry
I was baptized Christian, but really I don't worship any god or higher being. Not that I have a problem with religious people or religion in general, I just don't believe. Sure, the stories are interesting if you read the right ones (personally I like the greek myths and the plagues from the Christian bible), but really they aren't believable. The prospect of some higher being watching our every move and thought is not only disturbing, but about as believable as there being some teenage grey-skinned horned alien that is immortal and killed a bunch of his non-immortal teenage grey-skinned horned alien friends.
Homestuck reference? What do you mean? What's Homestuck? I've never heard of Homestuck.
Greek/Roman myths are some of my favorites, but I always thought the bible was only so-so as a form of entertainment. I only read part of the new testament though, after which I lost the book and forgot everything about it except its appearance and how good of a story I had felt it was.
If this site stored addresses, then I'd be in serious trouble. but it doesn't, so all's good. I don't know how someone can take offense at statements like this, but I know that they do from personal experience...
Yeah, Old Testament is where all the "cool" stuff happens: cities getting destroyed instantaneously, angry old guys summoning bears to maul children, the sea getting parted about three or four different times, talking donkeys, invincible sea monsters, etc.
No clue how this got fucking necro-ed, buttfuck it. Anyway, I'm not really sure what my religion is. I believe in a God and a Jesus to an extent, but I don't really buy into a lot of the religious shit. I believe I make my own destiny/decisions, and most of the time, I end up questioning my religion. I've told many people I'm Atheist, then I'll switch to Agnostic, then I'll switch to Christianity, so I don't really know what the fuck I am.
My religion is that of an atheist. I don't buy into any of the theories or religions. I also don't like to think about the end to much, when I get there, I'll find out.
I am confused on the beliefs of Mormonism, could you explain them (If time alows) via IM to me?
I know some Christians believe that there is no consciousness after death, until some sort of great resurrection event. I presume that mormons believe similarly (but, you know, without a single, large resurrection event).