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Steve demands attention!

8 days ago

Hello dear CYS. After a recent disagreement with some homophobic little crybaby bitch over the general position of the site, I've decided to make this questionnaire to find the answers I seek. Please try answer as clearly as you can. As an incentive for answering, everyone who submits a complete and satisfactory response will receive one free of charge compliment from Steve. Damn right, and it'll be a good one. I'll get the closest I can to licking your balls via computer.

1. Politics: Do you consider yourself Left, Left-Leaning, Centrist, Right-Leaning or Right wing? Please elaborate.

2. Abortion: Do you believe abortion should be completely legal, sometimes allowed or banned? Please elaborate.

3. Religion: Please state your religion of raising and your religiousness on a factor of 0-5, 0 being non-believing and 5 being willing to pilot a Boeing 757 for your God.

4. Queer: State your opinion on homosexuality. Please note if you are currently in the closet.

5. Tranvestites: State your opinion on Transgenderism. Please note whether you'd have sex with Caitlyn Jenner at the end.

6. Bullshit: Please insert your own bullshit question here about sporks or pudding or whatever the fuck you want to keep interested in this thing. If you have any respect for yourself, feel free to leave Question 7. blank.

7. Wetbacks: Do you want the government to work harder to enforce anti-immigration laws, do nothing because you don't give a shit or open more pathways to citizenship and all that shit? Please note despite the question's title it applies to all you blessed non-American people.

8. Trump: Please state your opinion of Donald J. Trump from 1-10, 1 being 'He is Satan!', 10 being 'I am Donald Trump and I think I'm doing a pretty good job."

9. Islam: What is your opinion os the religion of Islam? Please note, if you are Muslim, feel free to do the same thing you did with Question 7. here.

10. Star Wars: List the Star Wars films from worst to best. If you have not seen them all, please write "I have failed" as your answer to this question.

11. Nations: Please list the best five nations in order from best to fifth best.

12. The Death Penalty: Do you support the Death Penalty? If so, please state what crimes you think would deserve such a sentence.

13. Guns: Do you support the right to bear arms? If so, please state your opinion on assault rifles, registration, background checks and the accuracy in a cop firing upward in the air while yelling after he fails to get his guy.

14. Euthanasia: Do you support Euthanasia?

*Please note, failing to complete the questionnaire to the satisfaction of Steve will result in endless insults as I criticize your pathetic non-answers.

Steve demands attention!

8 days ago
These are incredibly personal questions, assuming you aren't intentionally trolling. If you genuinely want answers, a SurveyMonkey questionnaire / Google Sheets page would be the correct way to go. I would like to answer the questions you've posed, but not on a public forum.

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8 days ago

Ooh, unfortunately as the amendum states, you failed to answer the questions and failed entirely at this, so I need to insult you. I really don't even want to as I've gotten into my compliment head space, but them's the rules. 

None of these questions are in anyway particularly personal unless you're the yellow-bellied cowardly type who hides his personal beliefs about the world aroun them in order to avoid confrontation, and the fact that you found them as such speaks a lot of you. Perhaps if the questions had asked about your own personal life such as family, sexual fetishes or whatever it would've been "incredibly personal", but this is simply asking your opinions on real world topics, not some personal shit. Such an inherent weakness exists in that you not only refuse to fight for or depend your views on the world but are so cowardly you refuse to even state them really shows that your principles are of little interest to you, and hence me.

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8 days ago
Incorrect. My central argument revolves around the fact that anything on the internet can and will be stored and can and will be used against you in the future if it suits that future entity. All of the answers to these questions are stances that tend to evolve as people's world views evolve, and accordingly putting them in stone on any site, not necessarily CYS, is a long term liability. The easiest way to visualize this was through the wistful statement heard on the streets of the states during the Trump/Hillary election around August: "Trump vs Hillary isn't the debate you want to see, it's the debate between Hillary in 1996 vs the Hillary in 2002 vs the Hillary in 2016 you want to see."

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8 days ago

So again, too cowardly to state your opinions because you're terrified they might change. Interesting you choose Clinton as an example, a person who clearly has no opinions of her own

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8 days ago
No, I have my views, which I will defend ardently if challenged. I simply have no need to make a version of them altogether in one place a benchmark of myself to be held liable to in the future. To take any views as permanently set in stone through a thread is to give excessive undue weightage to a person's self views and not to their environment.

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So yeah, too cowardly to state your views in case you're held to them at some point.

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Nah, just wary enough to not go unloading them for every random Steve I meet in the internet.

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You keep saying no, before agreeing with the point I made.

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No, you just interpret it in a way favorable to yourself. Seems we've reached yet another spiraling impasse.

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Interesting read.

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6 days ago
The other presentations there are also excellent brain food, notably Web Design: The First 100 Years, Haunted by Data and The Website Obesity Crisis

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8 days ago

He's trying to see how right wing this place is. I'm of the opinion that not nearly as much as he thinks mainly because everyone here is practically accepting deviant lifestyles. They just don't get in a tizz about it like they would on CoG if someone uses the wrong pronoun.

Even the wacky Christians on here aren't telling the likes of Steve that he's going to burn in Hell. (Well not for being bisexual anyway)

The place isn't exactly a leftist playground, but it's left enough.

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8 days ago

Fine, I'll admit it, End was the homophobic little crybaby bitch. He remains one to this day, and I'll prove you wrong yet, motherfucker! I'll show you wrong, you hack of a writer with a fear of dicks!

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8 days ago

Speaking of phobia, you used transvestite and transgender interchangeably like they're the same thing when they're clearly different you ignorant transphobe.

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8 days ago

I love Rocky Horror.

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I'd personally say the site as it's been the last few months since I've been on fora has been fairly balanced in its views, no one's been chased away for their views unless they were a WC sympathizer. It has its staunch Leftists and eager Rightists, but no one faction is dominating at this while, which is reasonable and arguably optimal.

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8 days ago
Unless it was all just multiple choice or something somehow I think the answers written out by Stryker would be easy to pick out regardless.

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Left leaning naturally. Probably more so to do with the environments I've been brought up in with all its emphasis on acceptance and what not. I'd be more annoyed by a racist asshole than I'd be by a SJW even if said asshole was funny.

Completely legal, human hands belong in human lives. Let's just not go crazy with this.

Protestant. 3.5. There are better solutions to issues of the divine than ramming a plane through things.

Lesbians are very very sexy. Except when they're not, but I don't really pay any attention to the ones that aren't. Not gay.

Don't get it, but who are you hurting really? I wouldn't knowing sleep with anyone I once knew to be a man.

Would you like to join my rising slave empire?

No shits given. Worth notin' that I'm from Eagleland.

4. He's practically shit and I'm sure time will lower my view of him.

Very commendable in devotion and religiousness. Those radicals need to lay off the salts.

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America Trumponia USA Brazil Eagleland

I'm not against it. I won't say what specifically deserves it, but it seems fair that if you try to fuck with a country, you oughta be ready for the country to fuck you right back.

Guns are alright. More dangerous guns are unnecessary, background checks are needed, etc, etc...

Yeah why not?

Insult away.

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8 days ago

Thank you, Temp Account. Although you failed at numbering it, and didn't even give me a number for the religion one, I'll give you the complement.

Temp, in the short time you've been here you've managed to prove yourself as a genetically superior specimen to the awful throngs of simpletons. You've shown humor and been comedic without having to resort to the stupidity most of the site has fallen to, and you're not a coward like others who failed to answer this, all while prizing your position as the modern Uber Mensch. Well done to you, noble Temp. Good star wars choice, as well. You chose the correct answer.

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Yeah! Won the prize, bitches!

Also the religion number was 3.5. Between 3 and 4.

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Probably pointing out the obvious here, but just fyi Steve will file this all away and later twist it around to make you out to be evil subhuman bigot the next time an argument pops up if your answers don't match his on any major point.

I mean he'll hate you the same amount either way because he is very firm about equality on that point, but just a fair warning.

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8 days ago

Uh, I can't switch between complements and insults, its hard.

Pffh, look at this dumb bitch, she managed to string together her first sentence of the night between he spewing of absolute gibberish nonsense in the chat.

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8 days ago
can't make me out to be an evil subhuman bigot if I'm banned :^)

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1. absolute middle. I couldn't possibly care less about anything in the universe than politics or political views. However, because I don't care and not caring is the same as accepting in many cases this makes me the slightest fraction left/liberal. I honestly don't care.

2. Abortion: I don't care. Which in some cases means accepting; but I really have 0 interest and I can see either way being right

3. Religion: 1. I believe there is a divine entity which created something - perhaps in the beginning because of the scientific data we have so far. No matter how small, far, or back you go in time or space there is a limit to human perception and we can probably never understand the smallest details of the universe (I'm talking subatomic to quantum vacs). I don't worship this thing that I can never understand, but I still say thanks for the food at the dinner table our of habit and just being polite xD

4. Queer: Couldn't care less.

5. Trans: Couldn't care less.

6. Bullshit: Strawberry pudding will always be better than sporks.

7. Wetbacks: idk enough about immagration to have a good opinion. Again, I don't pay attention to politics or care for them at all. Using cheaper foreign labor in some instances is alright - like on farms and stuff cause otherwise a lot of food wouldn't be produced without all the spanish people around here. I think it should be easier/faster to get a work visa in the US for foreigns but not any easier to become a citizen/resident.

8. Trump: funny guy who, so far, seems to be winging it pretty well for someone who has no idea what he's doing. I do notice a lot of people who usually talk politics aren't talking politics anymore cause trump is kind of a joke that no one can be serious about at this point. Idk, I get memes from it so idgaf.

9. Islam: Nice artwork done by their religious people and I like the religious architecture compared to bland churches of christ with some stained glass. Outside of the middle east it seems great. It's still organized religion so I wouldn't really join or anything but I like the artwork.

10. Star Wars: I, II, VII, III, IV, RO, VI, V

11. Nations: idk the difference between a nation and a country so Mongolia, Switzerland, Japan, NZ, South Korea

12. I'd support it if it were entertaining like a gladiator match. Probably for multiple murders, a crime against humanity, cutting in line, elbows on the table, etc. 13. Guns: I like to hunt so yeah. I don't like people who hunt for sport generally - you should hunt for food not a trophy (if you get a trophy too then that's a bonus but the animal should be eaten or used in some way). Assult rifles are cool looking and fun to shoot. Registration should probably be a bit tougher for anything that holds more than 6 bullets.

14. I'm agist - unless the old/dying people are contributing (or have a chance to contribute when cured) to society in some way then just get rid of them. Old people suck. That absolutely applies to me when I'm old too - if no one kills me when I'm no longer able to contribute to society in any meaningful way then I'll do it myself. Probably my only extreme view is of old people and terminally ill people.

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8 days ago

Oh noble, noble Ford. Once again you prove your bravery, as we also saw in your showing of your visage to the site recently, and your bet in the Chaos Contest. You always were the bravest, even among lions. You've shown endless genius ability in your creation of Chanbot, which to my knowledge is the first true artificial intelligence in existence, proving once again how far greater you are than the common, illiterate "Why isn't my laptop turning on time to ask CYS" filth that exists on this site. You're a pillar of this site and far above your lesser man.

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8 days ago
thanks me too

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Good to know that someone else has the correct opinion on Star Wars. 

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1. Left, I support social equality.

2. Banned. Abortion is murder. If you don't want the baby, don't raise it, give it to someone who gives a shit about it.

3. I'm a christian, and I believe in God 5/5. I'm not exactly the most religious person, but I do believe in God a lot.

4. I'm straight, but if people wanna be homosexual, they can. I'm sure not gonna try to stop it, if the person you care about is the same gender as you, I don't think it should matter. I'm not homophobic in any way.

5. I'm not against it, but I think people need to be absolutely sure it's really what they want before they do it. No, I would not have sex with Caitlyn Jenner because I don't fuck people I don't know... or anyone for that matter.

6. Is eating donkey flesh legal on the moon?

7. I feel like a lot of people are accused of being immigrants and are being steriotyped, so i'll say keep the immigration enforcement a little lower.

8. Negative three. I want to stab him in the eye with a dagger and then break both his legs and leave him to die.

9. I don't believe in this religion, but some people do and I respect that.

10. I have failed at life

11. United States, Switzerland, UK, Spain, Japan

12. I don't support it in any way.

13. I don't think just any person should be able to just buy a gun, and a permit should be required and shit. The only people who need guns are murderers, burglars, cops, and hunters, and let me tell you, two of those shouldn't have them.

14. If a person doesn't want to live, and they really can't bear the pain they're in, then I think this is not the happiest solution, but it shouldn't be banned.

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8 days ago

Goddammit Minnie, if you're 5, then you ARE the most religious... Fuck it, forget it. For future note, numbers outside the give range count as a failure.

MinnieKing, you showed up at the site as a failure who I personally though was beyond redemption, but in six months you managed to publish eight games, more than most of the site have done in their entire time here. Certainly more than that dumb bitch Mizal, that's for sure. The fact that you continue to write, as well as your kindness and friendliness shown to everyone on the site is without a doubt the reason you have won so many peoples hearts.

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8 days ago

Wow. That was beautiful.

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'Religious' a lot of the time just refers to how much someone identifies with an organized religion ie. Catholicism, you can believe in God without caring about any of that.

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Yeah, but I didn't ask for a five out of five for how god-believing you are, I asked for how religious.

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1. Politics: Do you consider yourself Left, Left-Leaning, Centrist, Right-Leaning or Right wing? Please elaborate.

No opinion. Politics are bullshit anyway, we all die someday without making change so why try.

2. Abortion: Do you believe abortion should be completely legal, sometimes allowed or banned? Please elaborate.

I believe abortion to a certain age is acceptable. Any time before there is a heartbeat, a woman should be able to abort. It is her choice and she should not be judged for it.

3. Religion: Please state your religion of raising and your religiousness on a factor of 0-5, 0 being non-believing and 5 being willing to pilot a Boeing 757 for your God.

I was raised on Christianity from my dad and Atheism from my mom. Religiousness: 0

4. Queer: State your opinion on homosexuality. Please note if you are currently in the closet.

I believe homosexuality is a natural and proper thing. All animals do it, and we humans are just animals like the rest of them. I myself am bisexual.

5. Tranvestites: State your opinion on Transgenderism. Please note whether you'd have sex with Caitlyn Jenner at the end.

In my opinion transvestites can do whatever the hell they want as long as they aren't harming other people. They're changing their OWN genitals, nobody else's. I would not have sex with Caitlyn/Bruce/Attention Whore Jenner.

6. Bullshit: Please insert your own bullshit question here about sporks or pudding or whatever the fuck you want to keep interested in this thing. If you have any respect for yourself, feel free to leave Question 7. blank.

Why the fuck is there no research on female reproductive organs? Like what the fuck there's like nothing guys we don't even know how the eggs work what the fuck.

7. Wetbacks: Do you want the government to work harder to enforce anti-immigration laws, do nothing because you don't give a shit or open more pathways to citizenship and all that shit? Please note despite the question's title it applies to all you blessed non-American people.

Do nothing because I don't give a shit. One person can't do shit anyway, why try?

8. Trump: Please state your opinion of Donald J. Trump from 1-10, 1 being 'He is Satan!', 10 being 'I am Donald Trump and I think I'm doing a pretty good job."

I think he's funny. He posts on twitter a lot and let me tell you it is the most interesting thing. So far Congress has stopped his bullshit, so we're safe and I just get to read about how much he wants to fuck his daughter. 7 from me.

9. Islam: What is your opinion os the religion of Islam? Please note, if you are Muslim, feel free to do the same thing you did with Question 7. here.

You believe what you believe man. Don't let me stop you. It states nowhere in the Quran that the people are meant to kill, it's the people, not the religion.

10. Star Wars: List the Star Wars films from worst to best. If you have not seen them all, please write "I have failed" as your answer to this question.

I have failed (I have seen none of them).

11. Nations: Please list the best five nations in order from best to fifth best.

Amsterdam, Germany, Ireland, Canada, and Chile.

12. The Death Penalty: Do you support the Death Penalty? If so, please state what crimes you think would deserve such a sentence.

Yes, I support the death penalty. Proven murder, multiple instances of rape, and child molestation deserve the death penalty.

13. Guns: Do you support the right to bear arms? If so, please state your opinion on assault rifles, registration, background checks and the accuracy in a cop firing upward in the air while yelling after he fails to get his guy.

Yes, I support the right, just not for fucking war guns. We do not, repeat do not need assault rifles in our homes. Guns should be registered to you only if you've never done anything with a gun, you should not be able to register a gun with more than two felonies, one if it's gun related. Also, how can a shot be accurate if aimed towards the sky? Is he aiming for birds?

14. Euthanasia: Do you support Euthanasia?

Of pets, right? I support it, to put actually hurting pets out of their misery. If your dog has incurable liver cancer, why put him through painful torture? Say your goodbyes and let him pass happy, I say.

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8 days ago

Ooh,  you left out the last two questions. Fuck it, you're new, you get the complement anyway, I'm feeling nice.

In putting Ireland in your top five countries you've become one of the few people I like on this site, plus your answers give me the idea that you're not retarded, so this is good. In your little time on the site you've managed to post your picture, making you far braver than the common site swine that exist, and you managed to laugh at Lick's creepy stuff with a smile, showing you're humoros and can take a joke. Well done, you have great potential.

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1) I'm left leaning and a tree hugger, sue me.

2) I don't know how to feel about abortion. I'm all for killing babies, but I don't like giving women the right to choose. Pretty sure I've posted this joke before, but honestly I'm just scared to give my opinion on this topic.

3) I'm a solid 2.5 because I find the likelihood of God existing and God not existing equally likely. I'm still going to call myself Jewish, though, fight me.

4) I have like 3 straight friends so I would be a horrible friend if I wasn't 100% behind the LGBTQ community. I am straight, though.

5) Again, 100% behind the LGBTQ community. Depends on how much money she's offerin- I mean, no, of course not.

6) 9/11 wasn't an inside job, but 7/11 was a part time job.

7) I come from an area with a large population of illegal (and legal) immigrants, so I would be happy if they're not deported...please?

8) I should be a fan of Trump because he's orange, I'm an orange, but he's just an embarrassment to our species. 2.001/10 because at least he's not Pence.

9) Islam is cool except terrorists, but that's a granted. 

10) I have failed

11) Nazi Germany, North Korea, U.S.S.R., Communist China (under Mao), and Somalia

12) Morally, I support it, but economically, I do not. It costs so much more to put someone to death than to keep them alive in prison for their entire life (in the U.S., at least.)

13) To a degree. I like tough regulations on guns used for hunting and self defense. Nobody need an assault rifle, though (excluding military.)

14) I absolutely support euthanasia! If you haven't watched a loved one die a horrible, painful death over a long period of time, all the while just wanting to die, then you have no right to say you don't agree with euthanasia. If somebody wants to die, I say let them. Why force someone to live when they're in excruciating pain or continuously in a drugged state because if they're off the drugs they're in excruciating pain? There is no point to life once you've reached that level. Sorry for going off on a tangent.

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8 days ago

Uh... fuck it, I know legitimately nothing about you. Fuck it, I can do this.

You've always been an integral site member through your love of writing and your terrific spirit and constant good cheer. You showed tremendous bravery in showing your appearance in Ford's thread, unlike the majority of these site faggots. You look very adorable, or attractive, depending on your age and whatever age that comment becomes creepy. You've been a great and valiant member of the site and your answers are mostly in the acceptable range, so you've been gifted the position of "Person". Well done.

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Awwww yes! I always hoped I could someday be labeled as human!

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1. Mostly left, I guess. It depends mostly on the specific issue.
2. Yes. Parents of unwanted pregnancies should definitely be aborted.
3. Various protestant. 0, but if I'm proven wrong and the end times does come about then I'll definitely be a 5.
4. Live and let live. Just keep your filthy hands to yourself if you know what's good for you.
5. Same as #4.
6. Why did I agree to answer all these silly questions?
7. I was just talking about this the other day with someone in RL. My opinion is that we should trade all of our entitled, worthless people who are too good to turn their hands for anyone willing to work.
8. Can't answer this until Trump actually decides what his final position is on something...anything.
9. Same as #4.
10. I'm a Trekkie. Star Wars is just stupid.
11. I think we should just scrap all of them and start over.
12. Sometimes. Cutting me off in traffic, backseat drivers, know-it-alls, taking up a whole aisle in a supermarket because you're too busy texting to look up and see that some people are in a hurry, answering a cellphone in the middle of a conversation... That's enough for now because I feel a rant coming on.
13. As someone who already has enough guns, yes I do.
14. Depends on the circumstances. (See #12)

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Thank you IAP. You've always been one of the greatest of the site Although you're a quiet man, your presence speaks for itself. You're like, except without the smoking, shitty ideals and genocidal tendencies, like the best of the men of the past; strong, reliable, trustworthy, honest, hard-working, without any of the douchebaggery like hating gays or never having talked to me that plagued the old douchbags, and that is why I'd save you if there was a fire. Also, I'd expect sexual favors, and End is greedy, Malk is gross and its feel predatory with a girl. Oh, and you like dogs. Well done to you.

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1) Left-Leaning

2) Should not be paid for by tax-payers. Don't care otherwise.

3) Jewish, 4.

4) Fuck whoever you want, as long as it's consensual it's cool.

5) Do whatever you want with your own body as long as it doesn't shorten your lifespan.

6) Why?

7) US government should make it easier to immigrate legally and keep the same immigration laws they had in place during Obama administration.

8) 4/10. Surprisingly inactive. Fine with him doing nothing but play golf throughout his 4 years. Terrible person. Should not have been the first to bomb Syria.

9) Extremists are bad, same with every religion.

10) Haven't seen latest two, but 2, 1, 3, 6, 4, 5.

11) Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Canada, Spain.

12) Not in it's current form. Costs more money than life sentence. 

13) No. Dangerous for everyone involved. Police should be able to carry while on duty.

14) Yes.

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I regret promising these niceities.

Well fuck it, you've not done anything stupid or assholeish enough that I hate you. That's a plus, and quite hard to do. You don't lok like a pineapple if that helps. Definitely fuckable, and since you left the "in the closet" addendum blank I presume you're out so that options on the table. Penguins are adorable, especially in twos, and your music's pretty good.

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Thanks?

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You're welcome?

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Note: By Minnie's standards I'm a 5 religions wise. However by the superior race's Jewish standards I'm a four because I don't keep Shabbat. I do keep Kosher thought, despite lies spread by Aman about me not being Jewish.

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1. Left-leaning, I hate communism so much that I want to keep a good distance even on the political scale, but I support big government and minority/women's rights. 

2. Completely legal, I'm not for telling women what to do with their bodies. For those wanting to ban abortion after 20 weeks, keep in mind that late-term abortions often stem from health issues that can be detrimental to a woman's health.  

3. 1.5, meaning I'm not religious but I acknowledge that I can't prove that a god doesn't exist.

4. Not gay but I support LGBT rights.

5. Transvestites are cool in my book, but I wouldn't have sex with Caitlyn Jenner, she's too old. 

6. Have you ever shot up a school?

7. I think that there should be measures to strengthen border control and the government should deport illegal immigrants, but I support legal immigration 100% and citizenship should be made available to all who apply in the proper manner. 

8. 3, pretty sure he's not Satan but still really bad.

9.  Islam is no more or less progressive than Christianity. 

10. Does Rogue One count as a Star Wars film?

11. Britain, Canada, America, Japan, Turkey

12. I support the death penalty only when the prisoner demonstrates a clear threat to society even when imprisoned, such as Ted Bundy, who managed to escape from custody twice and killed three more people while he was out. 

13. Vigorously.  Image result for bear arms

14. Yes, if someone wants to die let them. 

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Well JEP, from the moment you've arrived you've had a strange, highly sexual fascination with me, and that's completely understandable. Since you're one of the few to openly stalk me, that shows bravery, and for that well done.

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...I haven't talked with you in months. How is that stalkerish?

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Sir, you got your complement, now get out of the line and fuck off.

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Turkey as top 5 countries? That's interesting to say the least.

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I like their ice cream. 

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1) Politics: In the middle I guess, since I don't give two shits. Is there a separate category for that?

2) Abortion: As a teenage male, I've never had this situation or choice come up, so I honestly don't care. It's the mother's choice, but it is a bit sad I guess.

3) Religion: I was raised Catholic, but I believe more in "science", so I'll give you a 1.5

4) Queer: I'm straight, but I don't have a problem with guys being into guys or girls being into girls. Just don't try hopping on my dick or I'll call Mike Pense to electrocute your ass.

5) Transvestites: I really think that people shouldn't try changing their gender. If your born a male, stay a male. It's okay if you like males, but that doesn't mean you have to try and change to a female. No.

6) Bullshit: Can I put a picture of sent here?

7) Wetbacks: Open more pathways to citizen ship, so they can stop coming illegally. 90% of my friends are Mexican and probably illegal though, so yeah.

8) Trump: He's pretty retarded at times, but I guess I don't mind him. 4?

9) Islam: I don't care, believe in what you want to believe in.

10) Never really liked Star Wars, but Rogue One wasn't bad. I kind of failed, but who gives a fuck?

11) United Kingdom, Ireland, Japan, Greece, France

12) Death Penalty: Yes. Murder, Torture, Rape.

13) Guns: Yes. They should be distributed to civilians with more caution and security, and that accuracy won't be very good. 

14) Euthanasia: To a certain degree, so yes.

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Well... you're at least attractive. I'll give you that. Well done on that. You also put Ireland the second highest in best countries, so well done to that, you've got the closest to answering that right. Greece was a strange choice, but I'll give it to you and presume you love history and love Greek history, which is really cool so well done. You've done great, feel good and happy about yourself.

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Yeah, I'm big in mythology :)))

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1. Left-leaning. I think social conservatism is invasive and shitty, surveillance is spooky, bits and pieces of Communism are okay, and guns are cool.

2. I love abortion. Sacrifice what's barely a chicken and conserve the resources to feed another person for years. It's great, and a much-needed hold-back in a world that has too many goddamn people and counting.

3. I am agnostic. I will or will not totally pilot or not pilot a plane, helicopter, hovercraft, or non-vehicle that may or may not be manufactured by Boeing to prove the righteousness of my god/goddess/dirty tentacle overlord/lack thereof.

4. I don't give a shit. Sure, it's bad to be mean to them, but I don't do that, so it's not my problem nor is it my responsibility. I will support gay marriage and the like, of course, because social conservatism is invasive and shitty.

5. The reason there are separate bathrooms is so that kids don't prematurely learn what the different genitals are. If you have a penis, even if it's made out of a vagina, you're a bro. If you have a vagina, even if it's an inside-out penis, you're a brolita. That's the beginning and end of it... Unless you have tits, in which case cover up and use a urinal or toilet according to your undercarriage. Same thing with different sexual orientations, I don't really give a shit about the little details because I'm not into it.

As far as the more interesting question goes: No, I wouldn't bang Caitlyn Jenner because she's honestly not very attractive. She wasn't even that attractive of a penis proprieter, aside from being swole and bronze, so it's not really a big surprise now that she's still old and sort of weird-looking, but also no longer swole and bronze. If I was with a girl who was attractive who used to be a guy, sure, I'd do her. I mean, she's all the attractive parts of a chick, so that's fine. If I was with a guy who used to be a girl, I'd be supportive, but I couldn't do him because he's a dude, which isn't attractive to me. I wouldn't go out of my way to have sex with a trans woman (It's trans woman if they transition into a woman, right?) just to prove my point, but I'm pretty sure I'd do it if they were definitely physically a girl.

6. The Stormcloaks are racist cunts who will destroy Skyrim and its inhabitants.

7. That's like the stereotype where Jews are old men from Boston who use Yiddish words in everyday conversation. Did it have grounds at one point? Yeah, a lot of Jewish immigrants went from Germany and places up to the east coast, so a lot of people's only contact with Jewish people were people who learned English in Boston, Jersey, and other places. That stereotype, though, is generations old and Jewish grandpas don't really sound like that anymore. Or, at least the Jewish grandpas I know don't sound like that. Where was I going with that?...

Oh, right, people don't really do the whole, "Oh, shit, I'm Mexican, so lemme just go over the border because America's so feckin' great" anymore. Usually, where illegal Hispanic people are concerned, it has to do with their visas being expired, so, fuck, it's not like a Wall's gonna keep them from coming in. If anything, Native Mexicans are probably enjoying their higher employability rate and too busy hiding indoors from Mafia cunts to go through all the trouble of truly jumping the border these days.

8. 3. Trump's a shithead. He's not as terrible as people make him out to be, but he's still probably the worst fucking president we've had.

9. Like LGBT, I don't really give a shit. They're just people, like everyone else, and it's bad to be an ass to them. Religion is so individually interpreted that to criticize broad ideals is going to become a too-subjective argument. But yes, it's still fun to make fun of holy books.

10. Force Awakens, Attack of the Clones, Phantom menace, Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope, Rogue One, Return of the Jedi, Empire Strikes Back.

11. Napoleonic France was the most entertaining country, Modern Australia has the most fun wildlife, Japan is the most interestingly droll in culture and mannerisms, the UK talks funny and had a lot of fun wars, and America hasn't killed me yet.

12. If there was no way that anyone would possibly be misconvicted, then I'd support the Death Penalty for any serious kind of murder or rape. However, there is, and around 3 or 4 death penalty people a year get exonerated. I don't think killing innocent people is good, so I'd like to avoid doing that.

13. Guns are great, but it's too easy for people to get them. People who register need to know how to handle these things and also be mentally sound, and the more/better ways you can figure to test that, the better. I sort of agree with the ban on fully automatic things, because the only reason you'd need to fire a whole magazine in one sitting is if you were trying to clear a packed room of civilians, or if you're fucking terrible at shooting and just want one of them to hit, in which case you're still a serious danger to the people around you.

14. Yeah, Euthanasia's okay too. Shame they seem to enjoy Kpop so much, but no kids are perfect.

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Counter point: 19th century Paraguay was much more entertaining. Also post-revolution pre-napoleonic France was much better than Napoleonic France with their state religion and 10 day week.

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I never said I liked it because it was good, only because it was interesting. Revolutionary and Napoleonic France are some of my favorite historical places to watch, but Napoleonic wins out because it suddenly becomes a world-conquering supervillain with a charming, heavily patriotic Lecter Dictator. I might've chosen Paraguay, Venice, or Medieval China for the same title, because those are also interesting in theory, but I'm not at all familiar with them, so I can't say much.

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Sent, you have the constant willingness to argue, so well done, you've achieved at least one similarity to Steve. You're smarter, or at least not as retarded as the usual site children, and you've actually written shit, which is terrific and immensely rare on the site. Also, you like fatties, and they desperately need someone to love, so goo job there, also you occasionally make me laugh, so well done to you.

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My heart's melted! It's like that Short Story contest with Bucky, except more compliments are being doled out for less effort on the submitter's part, and Mizal doesn't get any free dating sims.

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Ugh I'm exhausted and feel like crap right now but I might as well jump on the bandwagon before everyone starts brawling and gets the thread nuked.

1.) None. Putting everyone in neat little boxes with labels is half of what's wrong with politics, and I don't give nearly enough of a shit about any of it to pick one. I'm okay with the most vocal and obnoxious members of each side being rounded up and gassed though.

2.) I feel like both sides of this one try to make it out to be a more of a straightforward black and white situation than it actually is. But after a certain point in development I guess I really do believe unborn babies are tiny defenseless human beings in most ways that matter...buuuut at the same time they might as well not be born because their life will suck pretty hard if their mom is both too retarded to use birth control and also a selfish cunt who would rather kill a baby than be inconvenienced by one, and most people don't grow up to do anything worthwhile anyway.

3.) Throughout my life I have been variously dragged into Lutheran, Catholic, Baptist and non denominational hipster churches by family and friends. Hmm...3? I was never edgy and cool enough as a teen to go through the hate and reject everything phase so I'm still a Christian, I just don't attend church anymore and get really annoyed at loudmouth 'religious' people who get wound up over stupid things. I guess you could say I like Jesus and the ideals of Christianity more than most examples of it in practice. Though if God showed up and told me to do something I would definitely jump to a 5 at that point.

4.) Guys having sex is really gross. Like, I don't get the appeal of gay porn AT ALL, but get a room and don't film anything and I guess I don't care.

5.) Trannies are not nearly as special and important and worthy of applause and adoration as they seem to think they are. Hard to form a real opinion until they stop being trendy though.

6.) My question? Hmm. Should I buy a PS4 or a hedgehog? Post opinions below please.

7.) Illegal immigration is dangerous and bad, but legal immigration should be made easier. Ideally easy enough that no one who isn't a criminal or terrorist would consider it worth the trouble to try and get in illegally.

8.) A rating is kind of meaningless this early on, ask again in four years. I haven't really been surprised at all with how things have gone until recently, though I did enjoy how angry he's been making the kind of people who actually liked Hillary. I am intrigued now that he's started dropping bombs on terrorists. He hasn't been impressing me too much otherwise but this bomb thing might be going somewhere.

9.) There are lots of different flavors of Islam, which is why they spend as much time killing each other as everyone else. I am cool with any version that allows them to co-exist with normal people who don't want to do murders or oppress women.

10.) The best are Empire Strikes Back, A New Hope, Rogue One, and I don't care about the rest enough to rank them.

11.) Texas, America, ??? sorry they don't teach geography in public schools. One of the ones with penguins should be on there maybe.

12.) Yes and first degree murder but also aggravated rape, or being a furry. Also they should just use a fucking bullet and not let them sit around for years before they get around to it.

13.) Yes but I assume you already knew this one lol. I'm not sure why anyone would need an assault rifle but as far as normal guns for sports or home defense or animal control, 100% support. They already check for criminal backgrounds but really need to do a better job screening for people with mental health issues, or the ones, you know, on terrorist watch lists.

Though I guess just running people over with cars is becoming the hot new thing anyway so eh.

14.) Going to go with a no on this one. If someone extremely ill wants to off themselves that bad they've probably got pills on hand that can do the job, I'm just extremely leery of making it acceptable for doctors or family members to get involved.


Counting this as my 1000 words for the day fuck it. Steve are you happy?

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I used to be against Islam oppressing women, but your terrible answers have made me think that maybe you shouldn't get a say in things. 

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Fuck, it turned out the retard conservative was in my conversation circle the whole time! Anyhow, I guess you get a complement.

Mizal, I think at your core you have the honor of representing overcoming the barriers that exist between us and our fellow man. Despite me being very anti-gun and you owning several, despite my militant Atheism and your not-Atheism, despite your blatant homophobia and fear of the art that is gay sex, despite your obvious flacid sexuality compared to the garden that is mine, despite your dickish hatred of Euthanasia and my not being a massive cunt, despite you being an American Dog and me hating America, a friendship different from every other friendship (although shockingly similar to the vast majority, if we're honest) has developed, which proves to me that despite our differences, friendship can flourish, as we all share something essential to the human experiance, such as appreciating Rogue One for you, liking porn for Bin Laden, liking dogs for Hitler, appreciating writing for infamous pedophile Will11. You, Mizal, represent the deep good that exists in everyone (as well as the outer shittiness we can have, but that's neither here nor there).

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Had to dig real deep for this one, eh?

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I appreciate the signs that you were struggling with this one because you're damn right I wanted to make you put some work it after I wrote all these long, complicated answers instead of the original plan of 'Don't care' or 'none of your business' for all ten.

But I still don't know whether to get a PS4 or a hedgehog so surprise surprise, you're useless.

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You have to feed and take care of a hedgehog, and a PS4 won't shit on your floor and make you have to check where you're sitting all the time.

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PS4's good for gaming purposes. And you should never do anything gaming-related that involves a hedgehog.

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PS4 means I can finally play real games again, but I'll also have to rebuy a bunch I already own on Steam, and I have resisted owning a console for so long it seems strange to give in now.

My brother used to have a hedgehog and I've wanted my own for literal decades, I think it will be just thing to bring joy back to my shriveled heart, but I cannot bring myself to spend $200 on a rodent.

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It's much, much better to remain a PC hipster. By being too jaded to pick up any new shit the games industry puts out, you can... Uh... Buy cheaper games. You also don't get as easily screwed by whatever weird shit Triple A decides to pull. And also smugness.

Bunnies work just about as well, and are a little less expensive up front iirc. They can be dicks if they think they're in charge, though, so I'd recommend buying eunuchs or females and looking into rabbit behavior so they don't get out of hand. Giant snakes will probably be a little less eager to swallow hedgehogs, though, so there's that.

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I have ten gigs of data a month. I still buy Steam games when they're on sale and save them for a theoretical ~one day~, and I'm mostly content with smaller older or indie stuff, but at this rate I may very well die and/or civilization will collapse before I actually get to play any of the big titles. Thus, a console is starting to look attractive.

Hedgehogs can just eat dry catfood and bugs and don't get hair everywhere. I had a pair of rabbits shoved off on me a few years ago and they were not affectionate at all and were a pain to collect again every time I let them run around in the yard.

Honestly if I decide against a hedgehog I'll probably just go for a guinea pig.



Look at the hedgehog though. Just look at it. I need to pick up a hedgehog and cuddle it right now, the feeling of not being able to is unbearable. (a cute hedgehog not an obese frowny one like Steve's...)

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I'd still recommend staying behind a console or two. The way things are going, you have to download games and hook up internet content even if you buy the physical disk. I hear this sort of shitty behaviour has gone down ever since always-online games and consoles lost last generation's console wars, but I still hear a lot about people waiting for their video games to download who are avid console players and not Steam users. Granted, they're peasants who probably fell for Xbox One's bullshit and are still putting up with it for some reason, but still.

You're right, now that I think back on it. Rabbits really are a heavy time investment if you want to get them to the point where they're comfortable with you and affectionate, at least if they're pre-owned or haven't had much exposure to people outside the petshop. I forgot guinea pigs were a thing until now.

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Guinea pigs are pretty easy to keep. My little fur-baby (named Gorda) is pretty docile and has never seriously bitten me. She has attempted to escape our backyard once while we let her run around. She came back, to say the least.

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I know I was always the one to go on rants about how furries are great and not at all bad, but...

If you ever use the term "Fur-Baby" again, I will drive to Lousiana and hire every voodoo practitioner there is until one of them actually finds a way to punish you with a permanent shoulder-length mullet and male-pattern baldness.

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So I'll look like this more or less?

Image result for greg universe

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No, it'll be on your face, so you'll look like a hospital janitor or a bug exterminator who works as a drug dealer in his free time, not like a hippie dad.

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I'm sure I'll get more respect by looking like a murderer than a date rapist.

Just as a note: I used the term fur-baby ironically. I guess I should have played it up a little.

EDIT: curse u ninja edits

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Oh, you'll still look like a date rapist, as long as you make that one expression in the third pic. You'll just look kind of like both combined no matter what face you made. (Both of these conditions would be negated if you had a pompadour, but then you'd never be able to go to Japan, because everyone would want to have sex with you... Or something. There's a bizarre fixation with Pompadours in Anime and video games that you can pick out sometimes.)

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The whole post is 767 words, which isn't quite high enough to be considered "basically 1000 words", but it's your choice. 

Not trying to be a smart ass or anything, just pointing this out. 

Cheers,

-Nycto 

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Fuck it, I’ll play Steve’s little game. Already a Nazi anyway.

1. Well I’d like to say I’m right leaning, but I’m pretty bad at it, so I guess I end up in the middle.

2. Completely legal

3. No religious upbringing, I wouldn’t discount the possibility of a god or gods though. That's a 1 I guess.

4. Don’t care. Don’t have any problem with you people getting married. Not gay obviously.

5. You can make your new parts out of hot dogs and pig assholes all you want, don’t care. And no to Bruce Jenner.

6. I’ll spare you the bullshit. But since you forgot to ask about drugs and hooker legalization which usually accompany questions about left-right view points, I’ll just go ahead and say yeah to legalize both.

7. As long as they’re going through the proper channels then they can stay.

8. 5 and I say that because personally I’m currently doing about as well as I am with him or Obama in charge. So nothing’s really changed except Trump gets a 10 for trolling liberal crowd and making them cry and flail which is always funny.

9. Never really had any problems with them personally, but I’m not religious at all so of course I generally find their view points too restrictive.

10. FROM BEST TO WORST MOTHERFUCKER

5, 6, 4, Rogue One, 7, 3, 1, 2

11. America, America, America, America, America

12. Legal. Serial Killers and Child Molesters, though I do like Ford’s gladiator match idea for the hardcore criminals in general. And agree with Mizal that we need to just use a bullet to the back of the head.

13. Yeah. Background checks of course.

14. Yes.

And I’d like to point out that so far, Steve is failing hard at proving this place is right wing. Most people here are liberal just like I said. Even the centrists are left leaning.

In fact, all we need is a few more trigger warnings and we’d practically be CoG. Lol.

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Whoa hold up

Star wars choices was supposed to be worst to best. Why is 5 first and 2 last?

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Ugh, I have to rearrange them now because Steve is a fucktard with his labeling system

EDIT: Fuck it, used my own labeling system.

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Unfortunately, End failed to follow instructions even when his mistake was pointed out, and thus will not receive a compliment.

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I have nothing else better to do right now, and I like answering questionnaires because they help me to become more aware of my own personality, so I'm going to type an answer.

1. Centrist. I hold liberal positions on some issues and conservative positions on other issues.

2. Completely legal. One of my main goals in life is to reduce overpopulation. Anything that reduces world population without negatively affecting the quality of my life is in line with what I want.

3. I was raised atheist, but I am a practicing Daoist. 5, because I live my life in a Daoist way pretty much all the time. Daoism doesn't have any gods per se, though.

4. Homosexuality reduces world overpopulation, so, the more homosexuals there are, the better it is for me.

5. Transvestites alarm me with their willingness and proclivity to violate social norms. Anyone who is willing to violate a social norm is more likely to violate other social norms, such as not hurting others or murdering others, so, the more social norms a person violates, the more likely they are to also violate social norms that keep me safe, and thus the more scared I am of what they may do. Other than that, it really doesn't matter to me at all. Would not fuck Jenner.

6.

7. I want the government to work harder to enforce anti-immigration laws because it reduces American overpopulation.

8. 1. He's a crook who is brazenly using the office for personal gain, to a degree never seen before in American history. 

9. Islam is fine with me. There are good Muslim people and bad Muslim people in the world, just like every other religion.

10. II. I. III. VII. V. IV. VI.

11. Bhutan. Brunei. Taiwan. Mongolia. China.

12. Obviously yes, for the aforementioned reasons. The current standards for capital punishment are fine with me.

13. Overall, I'm for moderate gun regulation- no mental illness, felonies, etc. A government must fear its citizens in order to rule justly. Background checks should be moderate. The more powerful the weapon, the more stringent the background checks should be. Accuracy would depend on what the cop's target is.

14. Obviously.

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Fucking hell, I get the "Gender just doesn't change" thing, but being afraid is fucking ridiculous. Anyhow, uh, complement.

Fucking shit, you're old blood. You've been on the site since before I was ten, so well done to that commitment. You wrote a featured story and two others, showing your skill as a writer, and Carmen Sandiago was actually a surprisingly fun game that took a lot of work, so well done.

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Not sure if you're serious, but you are confounding transvestites with transgender people. Transvestites are just cross-dressers.

 

Edit: if you wanted an answer on transgenderism, it reduces overpopulation, so I'm all for it. I was scared of transvestites, not transgender people.

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Oh yeah, you're right. I always forget the difference. Anyhow, still weird to be scared of Transvestites.

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The dentist in the Rocky Horror Movie was trasvestite. The dentist in the shitty TV adaptation was a transgender.

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Holy shit, that TV version was fucking awful.

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Why is a man in high heels frightening, as opposed to say, ridiculous?

Well whatever you're a fan of the Carmen San Diego cartoon so I'll let you have this one, dude could be hiding any kind of gizmo in there who even knows.

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The reason was mentioned in the comment that replied to the questionnaire.

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Okay but more importantly I just remembered I have the entire Carmen Sandiego series on DVD somewhere and I need to dig it up and rewatch it now.

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1. Politics: I guess I'd have to be left? I'm not too sure on all this but I'll just state what I believe in. I believe in socialism, and helping out those in need. I do not believe in being a social parasite however, those who can and are able to support themselves and their community should. I do believe in the right to bear arms and to form a militia when needed. However, having high-power weapons for personal defense is sort of overkill.

2. Abortion: I do not believe in abortion, as some people I know have been products of rape. If it were not for modern medicine I would have not been born, or my mother would have died. So in the case that the child endangers the mother's life, I would also say no. I do not agree with actively taking human lives for selfish purposes. Abstinence is also a thing.

3. Religion: I was born into my religion, and was baptized as I reached spiritual maturity and was deemed ready. I practice my beliefs and strive to become stronger in my faith and making diciples. 5/5.

4. Queer: Contrary to Steve's beliefs, I am not homophobic. I treat all people equally. And I hate to play this card, but I have a number of friends in the LGBT.

5. Tranvestites: Like with homosexuals, I would regard them with no differing stance than anyone else. No, I wouldn't have sex with Miss Jenner. 

6. Bullshit: Would you rather be invincible to every second bullet, or become invisible when no one is looking at you?

7. Wetbacks: Immigration should be allowed, and not frowned upon. The pilgrims who founded America were technically immigrants. Becoming a certified American citizen should also become a bit more accessible and easier.

8. Trump: Trump is probably one of the worst presidents if you pay attention to his ratings. However, I feel he was the lesser evil. 3/5

9. Islam: I have no problem with Islamic people, and don't know much about their religion. Your religion does not determine what kind of person you are.

10. Star Wars: Rouge One, IV, V, VI, VII, II, III, I

11. Nations: America, UK, Ireland, South Korea, Japan

12. The Death Penalty: I do not believe in the death penalty. 

13. Guns: I believe in the right to bear arms and to form a well-regulated militia to defend against the government if needed. High-power weapons should be only used in the case of a militia, law enforcement, or for military. I do not believe that ordinary civilians need such things to defend themselves personally.

14. Euthanasia: If the subject agrees to the practice, sure.

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How was Trump the lesser evil?

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Trump is a bit bigoted, has a lack of experience, and is a corporate moron.

Hillary is deceitful, wishy-washy, and is mentally unfit for the role as president.

Maybe not the lesser evil, but probably the better choice.

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Hillary, who is by no means a very moral person, had decades of experience in politics. Trump has never held public office before in his entire life, why would he be the better choice?

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'Being experienced at politics' means being experienced at the calculated practice of telling everyone around you exactly what you think they want to hear and nothing else. In theory it'd be fantastic having someone who isn't a politician in charge. In practice we, uh, wound up with Trump. Morally about the same but I guess at least he doesn't bother to hide it?

But all he really has to do is get the fuck off Twitter and listen to his advisors on shit he doesn't know shit about (everything) and he'll be doing better on average than most people we've had in office.

I'm kind of feeling more positive toward him right now than I have been previously tbf, I really really like the way he's been blowing up terrorists. If he steps up his game and kills a terrorist with his bare hands at any point during the next four years, I will vote for him.

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So you're a pro-immigration socialist who thought Trump was the lesser Evil? That's contradictory. Anyhow, since you failed with question 3, 8 and presumably 10, as the first two were out of ten and I hope for the love of God you did best to worst for 10, you're being insulted before the complement. America is shit, I already proved there's no God, you believe homosexuality is a sin and thus immoral, and that's what I find homophobia.

You beat me in the race for president, so well done on that one. Although according to Silas Schock you did a shit job, my cannon does not involve you causing the apocalypse. Also, you've improved greatly from your troll roots and should feel happy about that. You are truly a king among the filthy throngs of Chris idiots and Tim wankers.

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Well, thanks.

However, homophobia is the dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people. I find homosexuals to be no more immoral than anyone else. I have not shown any disrespect or prejudice to you or any other queer person. I find you to be incorrect, if only on that point. :)

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Do you think homosexuality is immoral?

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Yes, but no more immoral than any other sin.

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Is it less immoral than any other sin?

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No.

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OK, so hypothetical: you can stop two different acts of homosexuality, or one act of pedophillia? Surely as homosexuality is as immoral as pedophillia, you stop the two cases, right?

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Alright. All sins are equally damning, but not as equally devastating. I'd stop little Steve from being molested by the priest assuming the two acts of homosexuality are consensual.

If the pedophilia is able to be enacted, it not only devastates little Steve, but another pedophile evades justice.

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Damn, if only Zag had been there in real life.

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Typical BS religious person answer, to be perfectly honest. I wish you people would say what you actually think, which is that gays are icky and bad and going to hell; you know, the shit the bible says. You're more of a faggot than Steve, and he regularly pines for the sensation of a dick up the ass.

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The Bible doesn't actually say that though.

It's way worse to tell a lie or to gossip than for dudes to fuck (even though that is definitely icky and why is there an entire industry built around this???) if you're going by what most of it actually focuses on.

But this derail was pretty inevitable for this kind of thread anyway (and possibly the entire purpose?) so I'm not going to try and prevent it lol.

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There are ickier forms of sex that make money.

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^Definitely this. It's just offhandedly mentioned. Probably a relic of some dude trying to make sure all of the couples in his village are producing offspring so they'll have an army to defend themselves with in the coming years morre than actual disgust.

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Well realistically I'd assume even the gay dudes would have been marrying women and having kids in most ancient cultures, regardless of whatever kind of extramarital activities they got up to or how gayness was viewed. Courtship was basically a job interview and a little thing like not being physically attracted to their wife wouldn't have stopped them from wanting to crank out as many kids as possible, as fast as possible. Kids were your social security and retirement fund, opting out would've been really fucking weird and the act of some kind of feckless degenerate.

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Yes, the holy book just has one part there that's mentioned, not in passing but stated as a rule, so let's not listen to it because it disagrees with your morals.

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I'm still disregarding Leviticus, not because I disagree with it, that's just a plus, but because, like I said last time, it's not part of the mythological canon. It's part of justification for a feudal regime's laws and not part of the original religious folktales that were passed down voluntarily as actual stories.

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And we went through this, it's bullshit, there's no such thing as mythological canon and there was a shit ton of laws in, say, Exodus.

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It's far from bullshit. It doesn't change the fact that Exodus among other books is an agreed upon religious text and Leviticus only became a part of it because it was god-based propaganda to keep people under control in the newly formed government of the promised land. The laws in Exodus aren't nearly as extensive, and are written a lot more like moral thought exercises, (Situation then an answer and reasoning) than they are in Exodus. I'd still disregard this, since it's also pretty specific for a word-of-mouth folk tale and it also probably the result of a regime using religion as a mouthpiece, but since it is directly connected to the bible story and it didn't come out of a government's documents, it's also possible that this is still the people declaring their beliefs since they are no longer slaves.

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Agreed upon by whom, and what evidence do you have that that's the reason its included? Exodus is the one that details extensive laws for slavery and owning people. That sounds a fuck ton of a lot like an extensive law for control. Ironic with your last line. Anyhow, still clearly bullshit.

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Agreed upon by the OG Jews, because Exodus is/was an oral tradition, give or take some scenes and parts depending on where you came from and what you felt was important. Leviticus was an instruction booklet for priests based on the law of the land. And in a feudal system, priests are always the propaganda machine that ties people together despite whatever political leanings they have about humans. They are the few, deliberately using it to control and subjugate, rather than to establish a philosophy and the stories of a sky god. Technically, you could say it was only for the priests to begin with, but no doubt it was kind of meant to be imposed on the general populace anyway, since they were going to enforce these rules. It's really just government propaganda where God is used to endorse laws. Rather than a situation and reasoning, Like in Exodus, it's a situation and punishments, with more threats to scare people in line before and after. Leviticus is not part of the mythology, it's a dictator's spiel.

I'd also mention that, while it does pretty much translate to slavery, what was going on for Hebrews was probably a lot more like a private prison system/indentured servitude iirc. Being 'enslaved' meant that either you (or your family, in the case that you were a woman or child, because fuck it, it's caveman days) had done something to transgress against somebody in some tangible way and was doing labor to pay for it.

There were also strict codes of conduct for how you were allowed to treat them. Beatings were frowned upon if not illegal, and they had to have a room that was as nice as/nicer than yours, and basically it was a pretty big undertaking/living arrangement that would bind families' living situations together and force them to make amends, so long as one was in debt to the other. The overall goal is that you work off your debt to become a free man, but, because this can easily be a pretty cushy living arrangement with people who can't really be assholes to you, you can get attached. Apparently it happened often enough that there had to be sections in Leviticus about being brought before the judges and getting your ear pierced.

In other words, their revised slavery was about them trying to make human ownership and mass labor equal, slightly more voluntary, and infinitely less cruel than the slavery they experienced in Egypt, with regular reminders of the Exodus heavily ingrained into their culture to make sure the Hebrews would continue to treat their slaves as employees and wouldn't flanderise themselves back into the Egyptians. Was it still owning a person? In some ways, I guess, but most penal systems restrict freedoms anyway. It was about dictating their career, not genuinely owning them as a person. 

It was viewed as pretty necessary for the time. Manual labor was the only way empires and tribes were able to compete, because there was no technological replacement. That was how everything got done, and so whoever had the most got to win wars and generally survive. If you're a relatively small cohesion of tribes coming out of the desert, the last thing you need is a class of abused hard laborers and rich warrior families with blood feuds to worry about. Particularly not when you aim to take back the Holy Land. So a penal system with mostly humane ground rules is really the way to go.

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Who the fuck says the original Jews believed Exodus and not Leviticus? One was the story of one guy and all the rules he gave them he said came from god, another is more focused on the rules. Moses' rules were just as much propaganda as the priests, and I'd say he used them to enforce his rules. You've shown no evidence for how Moses' rules is any different.

No, it was slavery. If I can sell my daughter to you as a slave for life, or be born a slave, its slavery. Exodus says you can be born into slavery, so clearly you haven't read it.

Beatings were not illegal at all, that's bullshit. It specifies you can beat your slave so much he dies, but as long as he dies a day later you're fine.

So yeah, it's pragmatic rules inserted by Moses or whoever with no real religious backing.

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They probably believed both, but the folk tale was created by the vast majority of Jews based on historical events, and the propaganda piece was created by a minority of Jews to control the populace. Exodus is part of the overarching mythological narrative, and it discusses philosophy and morals with its laws, albeit in a one-sided manner, whereas Leviticus merely offers scenarios and punishments. Exodus is the extended version of a word-of-mouth story with technical bits tacked on for the sake of religious apologetics, and Leviticus is not a story but a general rulebook for priests.

I have read it. That's why I mentioned the family part. It's still done as payment for transgressions, but you can send in subordinate family members like women and children to do it for you. It's still a penal system, it's just a pretty fucked one. 

It's not fine. It's frowned upon to wound a guy so that he dies, it's just not direct murder so they aren't prosecuted. It's still grounds for running the fuck away, though. You also have to pay his medical bills. If he gets up and is able to walk out of his house the next day, pretty much ruling out a lot of serious injuries and internal bleeding, then yeah, that's a loophole. However, it also says if you strike anyone with intent to kill or grievously harm them, then you get put to death.

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Doubtful it was based on historical events, as there was no massive escape of Jews from Egypt. As well as this, you have no evidence it was created by the majority. Exodus has a shit ton of rule and punishments. The fact that Leviticus has more rules doesn't mean shit about it being canon or not.

No, because you can be born into it.

No, it is fine. If you beat him and he dies from it after a period of time, there's no penalty, so it is fine. There's no punishment for doing so.

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Because, as the circle we're arguing comes round again, Exodus is a folktale, written by and for an entire culture, even without the laws, which are about as likely as Leviticus to be non-canonical outside of simple shit like the ten commandments. All of Exodus's laws, even with the straight-up Law and Punishments parts, are given context within the story about the cruelty people faced in Egypt. It establishes pretext to the rules, where Leviticus merely restates rules and uses the deity to justify why the high priests should be enforcing these laws on people. Leviticus is a rulebook written by and for governing officials, using that culture as a means of controlling the rest.

In a world where subordinate family members are commodities and, as Mizal said, your health care and your social security, yes, it is still a penal system, because sending an entire branch of your family off to be agents of another person rather than you is a serious disadvantage to you. Does it punish only the person who did it? No, but because the older male was the one responsible for his family back then, they weren't considered individual people enough that their own freedom would be of any consequence so long as that guy's family was split and befuckled by slavery.

There's punishment for beating and wounding him. You have to pay for the loss of his time and have him thoroughly healed. That's health insurance and paid sick leave for all injuried, except you foot the entire bill. If you intended to kill him, then it's still murder and you get killed for it. The period where you're culpable only ends when the guy is able to get up and walk out of his house.

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Not written by an entire people, written by singular people. At this point you're arguing that the laws in the books are non-canonical, which is patently absurd, There's no reason why a story is any bit more canonical than a law in the mythology, and you've yet to put it forward other than its creation for propaganda, which the story of exodus clearly was as well, so what even is your point?

Alright, fair point, entire families could be enslaved for the actions as one, I'll admit this.

Not if you kill him accidentally, there's no punishment.

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Upon really looking at it, I just hate organised religion, and find the general ideas portrayed by stories passed down orally and ritually by multiple people to be more reliable to what a religion actually is than the interpretation of any singular people trying to dictate spiel to others.

But you still have to pay for all of the damage you incurred while he's alive. If you kill him on the spot, you're a murderer. If he has to be taken to a place of healing, you're paying his medical bills, and you're still a murderer if he never gets better. Are there injuries that would presumably linger after he seems good enough to get out the door? Definitely, but it's not like they had the medicinal knowledge back then to say without a shadow of a doubt that the attack was the direct cause of it.

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What single people say can be far more important. These people can easily define the religion by acting as leaders of it. 

I suppose, but his death if anything markets less punishment. If he dies right after the alloted time, you're finished. If he survives longer, it costs more.

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I do believe that religion is very interpretive, and that whatever the term "Spiritual" means, it does come down to single people's interpretations. There are some things that are great, that add depth and philosophy to the beliefs surrounding the basic philosophy of the religion, and those are great. But what individuals believe is also sometimes shitty and motivated by control and power whenever somebody truly gets the chance to be in control, and it should probably be kept to themselves 70% of the time.

How many serious wounds have you seen that you wouldn't either get up and be fine from, or die in a bed some while after? This is a place where they've barely got bone-setting down. If you have internal bleeding you'll be pretty fucked before you try getting up, booze is probably your only real defence against infection that will make any wound of substance bad enough to kill you if you bothered.

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I'm not exactly sure what your point is here, to be dead honest.

What, are you seriously saying there's no wounds someone would be confined in a bed for and wouldn't die?

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Okay you found one verse, congrats. You basically proved my point already, but now try looking up lying or gossip or greed.

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Except it says to kill gay people. Which is in direct contravention of your point. Also, saying that greed is bad is a unique philosophy at all. Almost every religion reached that conclusion. 

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I'm pretty tired here and not even sure what you're trying to argue. The Bible is a massive book and there's basically just one verse in the entire thing against homosexuality, mentioned in passing in the Old Testament mixed in with a bunch of other weird cultural stuff. So yes, going back to the original topic, this was my point. It is kind of weird that so many Christians focus on gays compared to all the other subjects it has much, much stronger and more frequent things to say about. And typically they're things that they pretty much completely give a pass to or practice themselves.

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If I write a book telling you to gas some jews, but fill it with references of not robbing people and instructions on not slapping your neighbor or whatever, I've still written a book instructing you to gas jews. The Bible is fucked. 

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Fuck it, Malk's pretty much made all the arguments I would before I woke up. Bollocks.

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As Malk showed, it does state to kill the faggots, so it does say that.

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The Old Testament also says to kill people for adultery, which even people who have knee-jerk reactions against homosexuality would admit is far more damaging, yet Jesus made a point of preventing someone who committed adultery from being killed. If some dudes had been found fucking he'd have done the same. Christianity is not supposed to be about judging or hating people, and whether a Christian believes homosexuality is wrong or not should be moot because they're supposed to be loving and forgiving everybody around them regardless.

Also, I don't think Malk realizes the Bible was written by multiple people and the particular book he quoted is full of transcribed laws from an ancient culture. There is far weirder shit in there if you really enjoy fixating on the trees over the forest.


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Well, Jesus loved everyone, and he certainly can't show that by NOT preventing some guys getting killed because they're homo, right?

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Jesus also said he came not to abolish the old laws, but to fulfil them. So I guess he's contradictory. Anyhow, Jesus is the one that brought about the idea that rather than deserve death, homosexuals, and all of humanity, deserved eternal torture, so dude can fuck himself.

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Lol. You can believe whatever you want. I disagree with you. I seriously don't look down on gays for being gay. We're all lost and need help.

Pointing at homosexuals (or anyone for that matter) and explaining why they're wrong aggressively is almost guaranteed to never work. The bible says that anyone who does not repent goes to hell. "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," (Romans 3:23)

I do say what I actually think.

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Yeah, but it also says to murder gays, which it doesn't say for a shit ton of other sins.

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No, there are plenty of sins in the old testament which say to kill off, excommunicate and such to those who commit such things. However, Jesus shows that to condemn your fellow sinner is wrong as he dealt with the Pharisees and teachers of the law whp sought to stone an adulterous woman for her acts, thus negating the old law.

"'Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.'"(John 8:7)

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The same Jesus who either says that everyone is deserving or eternal torture, or supported that.

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Yes, yet he dies for all of us so we will not have to accept that fate.

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Yes, praise God for rather than just forgiving everyone instead asking for someone else to be tortured in his stead, because forgiveness can only come through suffering, and it doesn't matter who suffers.

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This statement is sort of muddy. Please clarify. I'm not sure how to interpret the "it doesn't matter who suffers" bit.

Yes, you're sort of right. Jesus, who is a part of God was set to be the one to take on our sins and suffer in place of us. We do not have to suffer due to that sacrifice. Anyone can repent and become baptized to escape the grasp of Satan and the chains of sin.

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Even bin laden?

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Funny, but not exactly.

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Yes Ford, but he's dead now.

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God wants someone to suffer for the sins of man, rather than just forgive everyone without any needless suffering. He's happy for someone not responsible to suffer for the crimes, but he wants someone to suffer for some strange, sadistic reason.

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Forgiveness does not obstruct justice. There are consequences for actions. Sin sends those to hell, not God. With Jesus' sacrifice, those who sin can become baptized and repent.

Also, if you realize, Jesus is God. Therefore, the only person who suffered was God himself. He forgives us, and takes on the consequences in our place. He doesn't want anyone to suffer, but rather is willing to forgive those who are not deserving of forgiveness.

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1. God made hell, and decides not to take those to sin to heaven.

2. Why does anyone need to suffer for God to forgive anyone? That's sure as hell not justice.

Imagine if I did something shitty to you, Zag, and you wanted to forgive me. Would you tell me I'm forgiven? Or would you hurt yourself? Which makes more sense?

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>God made hell for Lucifer and his angels. God is good, cannot be tainted by evil, and cannot deal with sin like you and I. As I have stated, it is sin that damns us to hell, not God.

>It has been set by God that "without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins" (Hebrews 9:22). That's as far as my knowledge reaches in that matter.

>I would forgive you, as I always have and intend to. I only mimic the actions of Christ, as he died for our sins. You and I Steve are in the same boat. I don't have to suffer due to Jesus' sacrifice. You do not have to suffer due to the same sacrifice. The shedding of blood for forgiveness has already taken place, enabling me to forgive you, and for you a chance to be saved.

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So yeah, God made hell that he refuses to save people even though he either easily can, or can't and isn't all-powerful.

That's blatantly evil, to say one can't forgive someone lesser than them without the suffering of a creature.

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Yes, he made hell. No, he does save people. As I have shown, yet you seem to forget He dies for us in an effort to save us. He forgives us for our sins in this way, only needing us to confirm this act by becoming baptized and by repenting. He already has saved us, Steve.

Well, he suffers for us in our place. That's not evil, that's gracious.

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No, he saves some people, based on how skeptical they are and which religion they decided to go with if any. Why is it you have to believe in Jesus to be viable for this saving? Why didn't Jesus just die for everyone regardless of whether they believe he existed in the first place? God made a people he knew the vast majority of would be flawed and burn forever, yet rather than save them all, he only saves some.

No, to say forgiveness can only come at the cost of suffering is evil and sadistic. The fact that he offered to be the own to suffer for the minority of people isn't gracious, because he's the one that demands said suffering.

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That's why Unitarians.

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Or why, even farther along the path to being correct, atheists. 

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But that's existentially depressing and makes life an inconsequential nothingness of chemicals experiencing only themselves. The Jesus makes it fucked, but infinitely less depressing. Nothing wrong with denial if it doesn't hurt you.

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Honestly, I'd say most forms of Christianity is far more depressing. With my view, we all die and then nothing. With theirs, the majority of mankind burns forever in endless suffering. But either way, it doesn't matter. Cancer is depressing. The correct solution isn't to pretend it doesn't exist. Fuck it, take denialism to its full extent and stop believing that babies do get cancer or get molested or whatever. Believe that Jesus never suffered as no one felt pain before you and everyone's just happy and acting. To take denial as the appropriate response to such an important question rather than facing and overcoming the issue is a pathetic and ineffective approach. Enjoy your life to the fullest, unrestrained by whatever shackles your religion has placed on you rather than denying truth to yourself.

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Yeah, but not existing sucks, and enjoyment doesn't really have any value if nothing counts for anything anyway. But that's why transhumanism, because even some Atheists can't live with not living. And, I mean, they end up damning most of humanity to Robot Hell anyway, so it's doubly hilarious.

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Yeah, but cancer also sucks. So might as well start pretending it doesn't exist.

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Cancer has a very real "impact" on our meaningless animal existence, though. the afterlife or lack thereof does not, so the comparison is pointless and fedora-ey as fuck.

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There's fucking endless beliefs you could hold that wouldn't affect your life, just pick any of them to substitute there. Believe there's billions of undetectable, invisible fairies flittering about that are permanently happy. I find it strange that I need to explain that blocking your ears from sad shit isn't the best option. If you're going to pick a religion, find one where God invented the universe this morning the way it was and there was nothing but happiness beforehand.

Plus, you keep saying meaningless, and I can't help think how incredibly ignorant that is. You're basically saying that everything and everyone you know isn't worth enough to motivate you towards anything.

At the end of the day, if you want to knowingly lie to yourself and believe in something that's known to be false, you can. I'd find the choice ignorant, cowardly and pathetic, the sign of someone who doesn't give a shit about the truth or the world, and when you don't give a shit about those, what's even left to enjoy? At that point, why even go on? The only thing you value is the afterlife or this life wouldn't be meaningless, so might as well go the way of 13 Reasons Why, or the way their creators should've went.

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Exactly, what is the point? Why does everything and everyone I know motivate me toward anything if it counts for nothing and I'm an animal anyway? Without further existence in some form or another, existence itself is a meaningless, inconsequential game. Morality means essentially nothing, everyone and everything around me is an empty chemical reaction experiencing itself, I'm a vaguely thinking animal that will be erased. There's no point in atheism, because the only thing driving you on is animal emotions begging you to perpetuate yourself. If there is nothing, then everything's nothing. Life doesn't matter, there's no rhyme, reason, or consequence, and we're all carbon-based test tube bubbles.

The notion of 'souls' makes everything different,of course, which I suppose is great, because that means being alive would mean something and I and the people I interact with are more than just empty chemicals about to be reset again.

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The point for me or the point for you? For you, I have no idea. For me, I think the here and now is great, I enjoy living and I have fun with it. I like it when people I like are happy, so I do nice things to them. I enjoy the here and now, rather than whining because it's finite. Fuck it, to you what's the point of going on a date or meeting friends? You'll eventually no longer be on that date or with those friends, so fuck it, right, it means nothing. Something doesn't have to be infinite to matter.

I don't give a shit if there's a point in atheism, there's no point to not believing in the billions of happy, undetectable fairies. Fuck it. Start believing in that. There being no point doesn't justify you making up one.

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I guess. However, being on that date or with those friends has meaning, because you've existed before and after. It has the buildup beforehand and the memory afterward. However, if it's all erased, which it pretty much will be, it may as well have never happened.  I don't really give enough of a shit in either direction to come up with more arguments after this, so Steve gets to win this one because existentialism is boring.

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All good things come to an end, I'm afraid.

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Steve, he did die for everyone regardless of not they believe in him. As I have already explained, you must only repent and be baptized to confirm that salvation. Jesus still died for you, but you have not accepted his death. It's like if I was giving out free money to all members of CYS. I'm still offering the money, but they need to come get it.

To support my point biblically: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16)

The shedding of blood is needed for purification. As I have stated, but it seems you have forgotten God does not demand we go to hell. He never created hell for humans in the first place. It is our sins that damn us, and the shedding of blood is needed for purification.

I find it funny how this all started with you accusing me of being homophobic. I have already shown why that is wrong, yet this goes on.

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No, because if he made the sacrifice for everyone, they wouldn't need to accept it. I'll say this. If there was a Jesus who died for me, I'm grateful for him doing so. I doubt it's true, but if so, acknowledged. So, am I going to heaven now? Why is it you need to believe in Jesus for that to work? The blood's been shed for me, why do I need to acknowledge it in the first place?

How brutally barbaric to think that you can't just forgive someone, there needs to be suffering for the sins that God created us to commit. 

Have you? Well firstly, conversations develop, as do arguments. Anyhow, it seems more like you said that you think homosexuals deserve to be tortured forever, but everyone else does as well.

For posterity here, do you truly believe that your mother, or your brother or you or me deserve to be tortured? Do you honestly think that's a fair punishment for us?

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Steve, remember the free money analogy. I'll give you money, you just need to come get it. You being grateful for the money doesn't make the free money magically appear. As Christ died for us, we must die too. But this death is to throw off the sin of our old lives, so that we may revived how Jesus was.

"What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?  By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life." (Romans 6:1-4)

God did not create us to sin. He initially created Adam and Eve to live among his creation. I've explained that the bloodshed is purification. It is necessary. Sad and barbaric, perhaps, but so is sin.

Yeah, I have. I have shown you through not just my actions and history on the site, but in my beliefs as well. No mere human is greater than anyone else. We are all equal and it is immoral to look down on anyone for any reason. Jesus himself even says "'No one is good - except for God alone.'" (Mark 10:18)

All actions have consequences, Steve. It is said: "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 6:23)

We do not have to face hell, my friend. We can repent and be baptized so that we will no longer be slaves to sin.

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I beg to differ. I'm better than a fuckton of people by a lot.

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The free money analogy only works because it's a physical gift. Imagine instead you wrong me, and I say "You know what, Zag only did it because of his circumstances, I'll forgive him for his sins." It doesn't matter whether you accept my forgiveness, I've forgiven you.

God created Adam and Eve knowing they'd sin and designing them in a way that they were sinful, so yeah, he did.

I didn't ask whether you had to face hell. I asked whether you think your family deserves it, and would quite like an answer. we're you're equal to everyone, say Hitler, you surely agree your mum deserves eternal torture.

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Okay, I already explained this. The passage that I showed you explains this. I have also explained that only through bloodshed is there forgiveness. You are forgiven of your sins, God has forgiven all of us, Steve. But remember that the bloodshed is for purification. You are forgiven, but not purified. We must repent of our sins and be baptized to take part in this purification. The money analogy does work because it has to do with choice and acceptance. Just like with God, the money offer is there. You must accept his offer to reap the benefits.

God created Adam and Eve to have free will - the power of choice. He didn't want mindless apes, he didn't want robots. He wanted real people to choose to obey and love him. He allowed them to be tested, and told them not to eat from the fruit of knowledge. Yet they disobeyed.

I have stated this as well, God exists outside of our definition of time and space as time is something that mainly applies to humans. He knows all they could have done, but decided to allow humans to choose for themselves.

Everyone deserves hell, Steve. I do. You do. My family does. Everyone in the world deserves to be cast into the flames of hell. However, I will repeat it again and again until you understand. We deserve hell, but are offered forgiveness and grace instead.

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OK, so let's take me into example. God has never presented himself to me or convinced me of his existence. Why wouldn't God just do something to show he exists to me rather than allow me to die for sins I don't even know exist?

God knew they'd fail the test though. He could've created them to be more obedient, or less curious, but he created something he knew would fail the test. Either God knew Adam and Eve as he created them would fail, or he didn't. If you could clarify which, that'd be helpful.

See, at that point this worldview seems just so sociopathic. I couldn't possibly love someone I thought was so legitimately awful they deserved eternal torture, yet you literally believe it about your loving family, yet don't see that as fucked up.

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Yet, all the evidence you need has been around you this entire time. Take into thought, God's creation. Think of the most beautiful thing on earth, or even in space. God created that. Do you really believe that this entire universe with its massive stars and planets to the tiniest atoms came to be by accident?

"For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made so that people are without excuse." (Romans 1:20)

Ah, but it seems you do know now. All this time I have been explaining to you about sins and God's grace, that you can know the truth, Steve. Understand and know your sins.

"The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, and envy; drunkeness, orgies and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law." (Galatians 5:19-23)

God gave them free will, to do as they pleased. He told them to not eat from the fruit of knowledge, yet they disobeyed. As I have explained, God is outside of our understanding of time. He knows all outcomes, but has a perfect plan. Weather or not we go along with that perfect plan is up to us. God planned to have humans in the garden of Eden forever, but Adam and Eve gave into their temptation and listened to Satan.

Steve, you have so much to understand. I love the people around me, and strive to see them as God created them, not as the sinners they are. We must love the sinners, but hate their sin. I love you, Steve in spite of your sin. I love myself in spite of my sin. And I love my family, and they love me in spite of the sin that we see in each other.

"I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin." (Romans 7:15-25)

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No, none of that is evidence. In fact, there's a bunch of shit that disagrees with the evidence, like evolution existing. Damn right I believe it. Do you really think the cells that are so prone to cancer in our body were designed by some creator who knew what he was doing?

I don't know, Zag. Your ideology seems evil as shit, as I at my core know my little brother is less evil than Hitler. If I truly thought anyone in my life would deserve to burn forever in eternal flames, I wouldn't hang out with them. I've done a lot more good than bad in this world. When I see someone suffering, I try to help. If I saw someone trying to rape a kid, I'd stop them. Seems I'm a step above God.

I don't believe, Zag. So why is that? Why do I still think your religion is utter nonsense? Why did God make me this skeptical if he knew I'd burn for it?

You're avoiding the question. Before God created Adam and Eve, he knew they'd eat the apples. They had no free will, he knew exactly what they were going to do. Unless you're saying God knows all potential outcomes but not which one it'll be, so he's not all-knowing.

Well Zag, I don't. When I see some dude who raped a dozen kids, I don't love him or see kinship in him. You might be some awful bastard, but good dwells within me. I genuinely can't fathom, how you could love a person as bad as a pedophile. I suspect you don't and you're lying to yourself. I don't honestly believe when some horrid criminal comes up on the TV who treated people like shit you don't think "Whoa, he's awful", and that you don't think your Mum is a step above the guys in your area who would kick the shit out of a kid if he looked at them funny.

You really have a tendency to avoid the questions in favor of Bible verses. You've not answered how free will can exist when God knows what we do before we're born. You've not answered why God created mankind when he knew the majority of us would burn forever, and why he didn't create a less sinful people. You've not asked why its my skeptical nature that's the reason I'm going to burn forever. You just seem to ignore the hard questions because this particular myth system is something you've ingrained in yourself to excuse the fact that you think you're a piece of shit.

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So something with far worse consequences isn't anymore immoral? That seems pretty strange.

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8 days ago

You're mistaken. You asked me which I would prevent. Both of those acts are equal in God's eyes, but affect people differently. The two people having sex have chosen that, but I doubt the kid wants to be molested.

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So A. God doesn't find an action that harms more people any worse than an action that harms fewer people, and B. God finds pedophillia as bad as homosexuality, and if he was faced with that choice he'd pick the two gays.

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Technically he'd just send them all to Hell.

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Then its not the same situation presented to Zag.

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Yes, and you asked me which ones I would stop. I presented my answer. What was the point of this?

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So was your choice immoral, or was God's, because you would have chosen different things?

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What would you say?

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I'd stop the pedophile, obviously.

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So, what's the problem?

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You're doing the opposite of what God would do, and as what God would do is clearly moral in your religion, you're doing something immoral.

I don't believe in said God and don't believe his actions as defined by the Bible are in any way moral by default, so I'm not being hypocritical and contradictory.

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Okay, but I chose to stop the action that ropes in an innocent child. The two people having sex chose that, and you asked me which one I would choose. God doesn't just want people to stop sinning, he wants to prevent people from sinning in the first place (something that is very difficult given the human condition). 

I argue that God would save the child and stop the pedophile.

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So God would stop one immoral thing rather than two times as much immorality? To choose an action that prevents less immorality than its alternative knowingly is immoral.

Also, that brings up an interesting thing, thinking God would save the child. If you saw me molesting a kid, you'd stop me. When God sees it, he doesn't. Interesting.

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Y'know, I don't really know. You asked me a hypothetical question, and I answered it. By choosing to stop the pedophile he stops the subjected child from suffering. Although the people having sex are doing something immoral, that is of their own accord.

Is it immoral to protect the innocent?

Yes, but he gives you the choice to not molest the child. He gives you the choice to stop and repent and come to know him. Isn't that nice?

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Yeah, but suffering doesn't factor into immorality, so you have to admit by preventing the least immorality you are in fact being immoral.

So its moral to give the pedophile the choice to not molest the child and let him do it if he chooses so? Alright, then according to your God it clearly is immoral to protect the innocent.

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Okay, I can live with that. If I repent, and ask for forgiveness God will forgive me.

You see Steve, I may have portrayed this a bit wrong. God cares about free will, he wouldn't have granted it to us in the first place if he didn't. But, he cares more about our well being. He is called our Heavenly Father with reason. I want you to tell me what you understand from this passage:

"The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing. He makes me lie down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters, he refreshes my soul. He guides me along the right paths for his name's sake. Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

"You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows. Surely your goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever" (Psalm 23: 1-6)

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OK, so to clarify, you admit it's immoral to stop a pedophile raping a child vs instead of stopping two separate acts of gay sex?

Again, free will doesn't exist if there's a God. He's all knowing, so he knows entirely what we're going to do before we're born.

Even granting it, if God cares more about our well-being, why doesn't he turn all pedophiles to dust to protect the children, the most innocent of us?

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Honestly, this entire argument makes no sense at all the way you're portraying it.

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5 days ago

Why don't we all... just smoke a blunt & chill.

 

 

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5 days ago
I'd rather not.

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5 days ago

You'd be so much hotter if you dropped acid babe. 

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5 days ago
I very much doubt that.

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5 days ago
Well it's not like you can get any uglier so you might as well at least try it

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Haha that's funny considering he's far from ugly bro. 

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5 days ago

Fitting given the date.

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5 days ago

How so?

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5 days ago

How is it even an arguement?

4 gay guys having sex, or a man molesting a child?

I mean, I know Zag thinks homosexuals are sinners, and that's okay, but I'm pretty sure he's fine with and tolerates them.

I mean, the Pedo is actually raping a child.

And hey, if there was a god and he hated the gays, they'd all go to hell. So what's the issue?

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Zag said that all sins are equally immoral. Thus by that logic, the two separate sins of gay sex are twice as immoral as the single sin of child rape, and if you want to be moral you should stop the most immorality. It seems like always, Tim is confused by something very simple.

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... What kind of math is that? Sins aren't measured because you can't measure a sin. It doesn't matter if a guy did 1 sin or 20. He's still marked by it.

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Tim, Zag said all sins are equal. Thus, we can measure them, as they're all the same, and thus two sins are worse than one sin. 

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Just because something's "equal" doesn't necessarily mean you can measure it.

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Tim, do you think two rapings are worse than one raping?

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No it doesn't. For example, when "All men are created equal", it doesn't mean that the soul of two men are greater than the soul of one.

You don't seem to be getting the point.

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I changed it to a clarifying question before you could respond, by bad. Just answer the question, if you can.

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Yes. Because rape is an act. Sinning isn't an act, it's an idea.

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Tim, sinning is an act. It is the act of committing, sin, you moron.

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No, it's not. "Sin" is the idea of doing something bad, not the bad act itself. And you're a moron.

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No Tim, you didn't say "Sin". You said "sinning". Sin is not an action. Sinning is. Sinning is a verb that means to commit a sin. That is an action.

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Sin is an action as well.

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Sorry, you're right. Sin can be an action, but not always.

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That's true, but I was just bringing that to your attention because you stated that sin is not an action, when it indeed is.

Edit: Damn, you edited it right before I replied and now it looks weird.

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Yes, that's why I said "You're right". I made a mistake when Tim changed the word we were talking about, muddling me up.

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Alright, since you've brought off the topic to bullshit about actions, I'll just respond here.

Yes it does. To be equal means to be in the same quantity or measurement. Thus is must be quantifiable or measurable, so we can measure it.

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No it's not. It's like saying that you're covered in shit. Being covered in shit a second time is still bad, but it doesn't really matter because you're still covered in shit.

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Getting covered in shit isn't quantifiable. As we've agreed sin is equal, it IS quantifiable.

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I think Zag meant in the qualitative sense.

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Then that means sin isn't all equal, as the second sin a person commits isn't equal to the first sin they commit.

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No, like, Sins are all equal in quality. So it doesn't matter if you get more than one. Because sins are equal.

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Tim, that's drivel. If sins are equal in quality, then a second one will matter exactly as much as the first one.

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The action and impact will be worse, but the person is no worse or guilty for it. There's only "Done shit" and "Not done shit".

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The action and impact, at least in regard to suffering, is irrelevant, as Zag has said, as suffering has nothing to do with morality. Hence as it no longer is any worse, the second sin is irrelevant and not equal.

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No. If they're equal in quality, It won't matter if you have 1, 10, or 100. You've still sinned. You're literally at rock bottom.

So, to get back to your original, nonsensical question, and assuming that homosexuality is a sin, The man raping the child and the 4 gays having sex are equal in "worth" of Sin.

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Then they're not all equal, only the first sin one can commit is equal to any other first sin one can commit.

No, Tim, because one is a single sin, and the other is four sins. One sin is equal to one sin, so one sin is less than four sins. Alternatively, Zag can assume since they're not the first sins they're all equally meaningless, in which case he shouldn't stop anything.

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You don't sem to understand that you can't "Math" sins.

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The equals sign would say that you can, as you can quantify them.

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Jeez. I mean... Wow. You can math them because the equal sign says so?

There's not supposed to be an equal sign because, and let me phrase this right:

You. Can't. Math. Sins.

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If there's no equal sign, then all sins aren't equal. If there is, you can quantify them. You can keep repeating that you can't, but until you show why, you're wrong.

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It's boolean.

Either you've sinned or you haven't.

You're being me right now.

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OK Tim, step bt step here, I'll go through it. You tell me what steps you disagree with.

1. All sins are equal.

2. Being equal means being in the same measurement or quantity.

3. Having measurement or quantity means being measurable or quanitfiable.

4. Being measurable or quantifiable means we can do maths.

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Step two. Because just because they're equal doesn't mean they can be measured. No matter how many you have, it's still the same damnation.

Either you're a sinner or you're not.

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OK, I'll broaden it to Equal means being the same in units of quality, status, size, degree, value or quantity. Dou you still disagree?

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Status.

Because you're either a sinner or not.

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OK then, no, because if I, a sinner, murder someone, that sin has done nothing to change whether I'm a sinner or not, so is not equal to the sin of Eve eating the apple. Those two sins are not equal.

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They are equal, though. Because they're sins.

You don't seem to understand.

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There's no change in status though, Tim, so they can't be equal. You said yourself it was status that was relevant.

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If there was a button that said "Sin", and you'd already pressed it many times before, someone else who pressed this button for the first time did it in the exact same manner as you.

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They did, but when I did it the second time there was no change in status, when they did it the first time there was. So are you admitting that it's not the status of being a sinner or not that makes sins equal?

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The Status is pushing the button though.

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Fucking hell, look:

All sins are equal. Thus, me raping a baby and me fucking a dude are equal.

All sins are the same quantity of immorality.

Do you agree with both of those?

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5 days ago

Not the bottom one.

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5 days ago

In what way are sins equal?

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They're equal in the fact that you've sinned.

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5 days ago

Once you have already sinned, is committing an additional sin worse?

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Well, it can't be measured as "worse", but you've basically hit rock bottom already. So yeah, I suppose, but you won't be any more damned then you already are.

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Tim, you just said it can't be measured as worse, but yeah, I suppose. Those are contradictory statements.

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Well, what do you mean by "worse"?

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5 days ago

Morally worse.

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4 days ago

Then no.

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4 days ago

So the second sin causes no additional moral change?

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5 days ago

All sins are equal from the perspective of the state of having sinned or not sinned. To a first-timer or regular sinner, all sins would have the same result. It's the person that changes as a result of the sin, not the sin itself. 

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Zag never specified from the perspective of a non-sinner, he said all sins were equal. You're adding things that weren't there.

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I'm probably not explaining it then. All sins are equal. Nothing about them ever changes. They are actions, and actions don't do anything. So a a non-sinner who sins is a sinning sinner, that's the change. They did that to themselves, not the sins. The sins are an action that is done, not an action that makes someone a sinner or not. They don't possess a number or value, it's just the fact that any of them are present that triggers the proverbial one-way-flag of sinsmanship. The first sin doesn't have anything on the other ones, because it didn't cause any thing, it only does what all sins do, that is make one a sinner. If you're a sinner, you can't be more of a sinner by sinning more, but each sin still makes you a sinner, so it is the same, but the person who sins does not take the effect of the sin. Nothing ever changes about the inert things that are sins, only the sinners that sin sinfully.

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No, only the first sin would make you a sinner. If a sinner commits a sin, that doesn't make him a sinner, he was already a sinner.

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Yes, the sinner who sins remains a sinner. But those who repent and become baptized are no longer slaves to sin, but are free from its grasp due to the power of God.

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Speaking quantifiably, it would be like your entire surface area being covered in shit. More surface area can't be covered in shit, so while it's bad, it can't be worse.

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5 days ago

This has been dealt with.

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5 days ago

Two rapings are equal to one raping. It doesn't get past local news until it's 8 or 10 rapings.

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5 days ago

Just to be a difficult twat, the two gay people having sex would be committing the sin of homosexuality, so two sins are happening, but, assuming all moral acts are equal, they're also pleasing each other, (Or, one is allowing the other to please himself, depending on how sensitive the guy's prostate is.) so one act of homosexuality is countered by the act of 'bringing joy'. The pedophile commits rape and abuses a child, so that's two right there. He's also probably uncircumcised, so that's another point on the negative board right there.

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Good things don't cancel out sins.

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Why not? All moral actions are equal, so if a good thing is coming out of a bad thing, then there's less reason to stop it than a bad thing with no moral benefit.

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5 days ago

Now what Zag or Tim believes, so not relevant. If you're talking about reality rather than belief, sin's not real.

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Hey, man, I'm just telling you what they told me. I don't give a fuck.

Either God's not real, he died long ago, or he's a huge dick.

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5 days ago

You're telling me, dude.

Steve, God cares more about our well being. He doesn't destroy us because he wants us to choose to follow him. Every new day is a new chance. Why doesn't God obliterate you or I for sinning, the thing that we have done since we became aware of ourselves? He loves us, Steve. He loves you.

He loves his creation, and gave his son to die for us, to purify us that we may only need to die to ourselves and live a new life. Read the passage I posted, and tell me what you understand.

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You didn't answer my question of whether you admit it's immoral to stop a pedophile instead of two gay sex acts. Perhaps because you know it isn't, and that would disprove your God.

You again didn't address the free will argument. Perhaps because it disproves your God. I doubt you will now.

He's obliterated many people before. Sodom, for instance. Why them and not modern pedophiles? Did God not love the men of Sodom?

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5 days ago

Steve you have a very warped view of free will and some other things, like sin math. That mess is super whack. I've already explained, and Tim ( and Sent maybe) has already explained that all sins are equally damning. A kid who lies is not better that a murderer, and a murderer is no worse than a homosexual in the sense that they are going to hell if they do not repent and become baptized.

On the topic of stopping sinners from sinning (specifically pedophilia in this case) is not immoral. You have a warped view of free will. You cannot excersize your free will to harm others. That is sin. In the bible it states:

"'I have the right to do anything,' you say - but not everything is beneficial. 'I have the right to do anything' - but not everything is constructive. No one should seek their own good, but the good of others." (1 Corinthians 10:23-24)

We see that God tells us to seek the good of others, so in effect, doing otherwise is immoral.

God loves us, but as I have stated there are consequences for our actions. If you know, God sent Abraham to Sodom and Gomorra to view its wickedness. Abraham pleaded with God to save the city if he could find 50 righteous people in it. He couldn't five 50 so he kept bargaining lower and lower until he could find no righteous person in those cities. God loved those people, but they continued to disobey him and the bible tells us that they were depraved. In those times, people had to have faith in God, and follow his commands. However, we see that in the two cities there were no such thing. Thus, God decided that their sin had gone on for long enough.

It is similar today, but in this time we have Jesus who encourages to leave our life of sin, be baptized and follow him. The sinners of today will have to face the consequences of their sins if we do not repent and live as Christ did. 

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Warped? I think that my little brother, who has sinned, is better than a serial rapist. I think when I lied the other day, it wasn't equal to genocide. It seems you're the one with a far, far more warped. 

Uh, not you with the sin math thing. If two things are equal they're the same in immorality, so that immorality is quantifiable. If it's quantifiable, you can calculate.

So if it's moral to stop sin, why doesn't God do it more?

Again, free wilIl doesn't really exist with your God. If God knows what we're going to do before creating us, he's chosen to create something he knows will be condemned.

I kow the story. Seems like a waste to repeat it, but whatever. Anyhow, for Sodom God didn't seem to give a shit about their free will and turned them to dust, so why doesn't God put an end to a serial kid rapist nowadays. You've said 'Jesus', but not explained the difference in any way. Surely their sin has gone 'far enough'. Why did God allow so many awful people before the time of Jesus? What's changed? You say we have Jesus who encourages us to leave our life of sin, but we had the Bible which did the same before that. I suppose the pedophile's just lucky to have been born after Jesus, because that's the only difference.

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As I have stated, Sins are equally damning, but not as equally devastating.

Okay, let me put it like this. We wear a robe. If we do not sin, the robe is  pure and clean. That's good. But sin, is more or less like a stain. You spilled a bit of mustard on your robe while eating a sandwich. Your first sin. Only people with white robes can get into heaven, and dirty robes damn you to hell. You, with your mustard stain, are impure and now a sinner. Lets say you were running outside and got some mud on yourself. More sin. You are still a sinner, but now with dirtier robes. You are no more damned then you are with your first sin.

Jesus, on the other hand, offers to clean your robes. You can accept his offer, and repent and be baptized, so that your robes may be clean.

Why doesn't God stop sin? Good question. Why didn't God choose to create mindless drones who follow his every word instead of living and sapient humans? God wants us to come to him, and spares us for our sins.

"He will not always accuse, nor will he harbor his anger forever; he does not treat us as our sins deserve or repay us according to our iniquities." (Psalm 103: 9-10)

As I have explained in a separate post in the alternate thread where our discussion continues, God has a perfect plan for us. Yet, instead of forcing us to obey, he wants us to choose that for ourselves. He exists out of our understanding of time and knows all outcomes. Not all of those choices and the outcomes that are brought with them are apart of his plan. He knows that we may not repent, and ignore him, but hopes we will see what is right.

Not much has changed other than the fact that people don't have to offer sacrifices for purification of their sins anymore. Now we have Jesus, and only have to repent and put the life of sin behind us and live a new life baptized in him.

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Sure they do, but your God and your morality don't give a shit about how devastating something is morally speaking, so it's not relevant.

And we've been through that, then not all sins are equal. All sins have the potential to be equal, but they're not in practise. Anyhow, seems strange you don't think if you rape a kid you'd be any worse a person, but again, whatever.r Albert Fish, or whatever shit sick Will11 gets up to.

And as I explained to you, God created people he knew would fail. Why did he make mankind so prone to sin and so skeptical? He knew the vast majority of his creations would not be saved, because that's the way he created them.

If not much had changed, how come God was happy to take a Sodomite's free will, but won't do the same to someone far worse like Hitler?

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Oh, it's relevant in the argument that you can't math sins. I do care about how devastating sins are. You even asked me if I would rather stop gay sex, or pedophilia. I would choose to prevent the pedophilia from happening as it harms a child, and the people having sex are there of their own accord.

If you rape a kid, you're a sinner. You're not a liar, but a rapist. I'd say a rapist directly devastates a persons life, while a lie may have different negative outcomes. Both sins are equal in damnation. I don't walk around with the mindset that anyone is better than anyone else.

No, God was and is prepared for people to fail. He hopes we will succeed and come to accept him, escaping the clutches of Satan. God gives us free will, but also a conscience; the ability to know right and wrong.  We sin of our own accord, as we accept Lucifer's lies and give into his temptations. Sin makes people skeptical, and this is what hardens our hearts to the truth.

If you take a look at the bible, God seems to only destroy whole societies like cities (or in Noah's case, nearly the entire world) as no good exists in them. God does not take away free will, but life.

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People consenting to the act doesn't make it any better morally, morally it's all equal, so no, it's not relevant if something causes more devastation, so you shouldn't care.

I don't care how devastating they are. We've already removed devastation from morality. Normal people's morality says the more devastating action is worse, but if they're all equal as sins, they're not.

God knows when he creates people they'll fail, so him hoping they'll succeed when he created them knowing he'd fail means nothing. You've yet to explain how we can have free will when God knows what we'll do, so we don't have it.

No, killing someone takes their free will. Also, God kills plenty of people who aren't whole society's. He sends two goddamn bears to kill some kids for mocking a bald dude. So yeah, God hates when you insult a bald dude, pedophile's aren't going to be stopped.

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Zag, you answered his survey questions, now feel free to tell him to fuck off.

I kind of want this thread to stick around.

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Oh it's not going anywhere, it's proving me right so far and I'm winning.

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Wow, you seem really bent on winning today.

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It's definitely better than the alternative.

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8 days ago
End and Steve are too similar, while also being opposites. They can't share the same forum, one of them will eventually have to be destroyed. (prediction: admin powers will decide this one)

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It is worth noting saying if only on that point means you admit America is shit and your god isn't real.

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I believe in God, but America could be much better.

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Then saying I'm wrong "if only on that point" wasn't the best choice of words.

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Ok ok ok Zag. Before this becomes another homoreligious debate thing, let's get the essentials down first. You did mean to put that Star Wars order in reserve, right?

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In all honesty, no.

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You're fired.

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Wait, seriously?

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No. (As much as you fucking deserve it.)

Edit: But seriously how did the prequels beat out rouge one?!

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What? I put them in order from best to worst. Rouge One was great! 

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Whew okay, just a miscommunication then. You had me scared there.

Steve wanted them listed from worst to best. (Some backwards European thing I can only assume since that's not the way lists like that are supposed to go.)

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YOU FREAKING IDIOT YOU GOT THE ORDER BACKWARDS!

STEVE SAID WORST TO BEST! WORST TO BEST!

Sigh. Thank God. I really thought I was gonna get rid of my best servant there. Kudos.

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8 days ago

My apologies.

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Now I really want to hear the explanation you would have come up with in an alternate universe where you were a M to F lesbian Satanist who's favorite movie of all time was Phantom Menace...

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I'm pretty sure you don't...

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wow, Orgazm, ur profil pic luk uncannily like Randy Quaid.

fuck, cant find a bettr opposit 4 jakki chan!

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I didn't ask about the alternate universe where you're an upside down Smurf. You're confused.

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he is pre-operashun u insensittiv monstre!

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I thought AdmiralAckbar had returned for a moment

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OMIGOD! Who are you? Are you....nega Zag? 

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8 days ago
You clearly mean yes.

We're asking if you think Phantom Menace was the best and Rogue One the worst, because that's the order you listed it in. That..that's not what you were trying to say, right?

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Oh. I see I was mistaken. My apologies.

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1. Well since you asked I consider myself about as Left Wing Liberal as anyone. I think people should at least have the opportunity to do whatever they want.

2. I think abortion should be 100% legal. Her body = her choice.

3. I am a level 3 Agnostic. I believe there is something superior to us out there but it is not the form of God that our limited brains have invented.

4. Homosexuality is completely fine.

5. Being a Transvestite is completely fine.

6. It reminds me of the Jenna Marbles quote "if a guy wants to marry a bag of garden peas wtf has it got to do with you? Why get upset and protest about it except because you're bored? It's not going to affect you."

7. I think immigration is fine, the talented and those interested in self-improvement will always be able to get good jobs, the lazy uninterested in self-improvement will use immigrants as a coping mechanism to blame instead of themselves for their lack of self-motivation. The world is big enough for all of us.

8. 0. I think Trump is the worst President in American History.

9. Islam is a wonderful religion that has been demonised in the Western media by constantly portraying the Islamic equivalent of the KKK at every opportunity - though extremists use it as justification for their crime throughout history Westerners used Christianity to justify slavery, the crusades, the genocide of native populations etc. Also terrorists may be pissed off that western bombs have killed countless unarmed women, children and other civilians over the last few years.

10. The Empire Strikes Back, A New Hope, The Last Jedi, The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and whatever number 3 is called.

11. Barbados, Trinidad and Tobago, Pitcairn Islands, Bermuda, St Lucia

12. I think killing someone to show that killing someone is wrong is stupid and the death penalty should be abolished.

13. Only the police and the army should have guns. That way less students would get shot every month in America.

14. I think Euthanasia should be legal, if carefully regulated.

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So you don't believe in hunting at all? Pretty sure a ~60 billion dollar industry isn't ever getting abolished but I was curious whether you had some vegan beliefs going on there too.

I'm not even going to address the fact you put the prequels but not Rogue One because holy shit, I'm sure others will.

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Technically Trump is the worst president in history.

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maga hats look great on anime girls though so we got that from him which is nice

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I must agree, I do like those hats.

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Pretty sure James Buchanan is still worse than Trump considering the guy completely fumbled the whole "holding the country together" situation and the Civil War occurred. When Trump manages that, then I'll say he's just as bad.

Fun Trivia: James Buchanan was our first gay president.

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This time it'll be the North's turn to secede.

Speaking of Buchanan, he gets an entry in A Treasury of Great American Scandals. This is a fun book and I just realized a little earlier to day the guy had a whole series of these.

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7 days ago

Classic homophobic End picking on the gays.

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I've been saying this since the beginning but his ratings will go up if he just goes through with making the first White House reality show.

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Godfucking dammit, Will! 0 is not an option for 8, you fucked up question 10 I sure fucking hope  and put in the Last Jedi, which isn't even out yet, you love Islam and I don't even know what those five countries are other than they're warm and I presume they have the lowest age of consent in the world. Fuck it, complement.

Will11, you're legitimately one of my favorite writers on the site, constantly spurning out new and interesting material that's always a joy to read, you've constantly contributed to the site through the review and you've always been kind and a pleasure to be around. You are infinitely better than the common slime, the degnerates, the pre-whores and the fucked up that inhabit this website, and I hope you remain so. Well done.

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Ah thanks Steve, yeah I meant Return of the Jedi, I get confused by all those Jedi film titles. I like Islam, I've got a Quran, I've been in the Grand Mosque in Cairo and it's more beautiful than any Christian church I've seen even though I've visited Notre Dame and Westminster Abbey, haha I don't know anything about those five countries except that they are sunny so they have that advantage over the UK already. Thanks for the nice things you said and I really enjoy your writing too :) Yeah, I tend to stay off the Forums because I don't know what people are talking about half the time and some of the site members scare me :D Just joking, this quiz was fun though.

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ITT: Titanic politics

"Liberals say the ship is sinking but my end of the boat just lifted 250ft in the air"

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The Trumpocalypse sounds like a good topic for that winning story you still need to write.

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There's a third option. 

 

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left leaning

legal too more people

0

who care

who care who caitlyn jenner

free

1

many evil no all evil

"I have failed" 

China Germany no more

yes all big crime

no gun

 

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You only listed two countries, you failed and get no complement.

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Did you REALLY think that piece of shit you call responses would qualify?

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1. I consider myself right.

2. Hey, condoms break sometimes.

3. 2. I believe something created us, we should respect it, but we shouldn't waste valuable time that we could be spending on work that helps continue the lives that our creator gave us and worship is stupid.

4. Homosexuality is wrong to me, but if you like putting dicks in asses or putting a dick up your ass then that's fine with me.

5. Don't really care, same with homosexuality.

7. I believe there should be a lot less immigrants (I go to a school with 7% white kids and 86% Hispanic) but a few illegals I have come to know as my friend.

8. 5. He is an arrogant idiot and I can't wait for his next stupid act.

9. I don't care, it's just another religion. One of my best friends is a Muslim. 

10. I, II, III, IV, V, VI

11. America (despite stupidity and declination she is my homeland), Russia (because cool guns and biggest land military), Germany (the original source of white power), England (original cool military that traveled across the world with big navy), and Ireland (because leprechauns).

12. Yes. Rape and mass murder.

13. Yes. My family owns a big armory, with some guns dating back to my great great grandfathers time in WWII). Registration checks and such though should only be for people with little to no crime record. And cops are stupid.

14. Yes.

 

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Save this and read it in ten years. 

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I don't want to be depressed.

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Congrats you might be the only one who listed the Star Wars movies in the weird backwards order Steve commanded, and got it right the first time. That will hopefully be worth an extra bit of compliment.

e: but where is Rogue One???

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I always thought rogue one as a separate, non trilogy type, but it's behind 5 and 6 but above 4

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"putting a dick up your ass."

I swear I initially read that as "Putting your dick up your own ass." Lol.

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That's pretty gay.

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You think homosexuality is wrong, but its fine with you? Alright then. And Russia is number two? Russia? You again failed with question ten presumably, and think Germany is where white power is from.

You've been relatively nice the whole time on the site and you've improved substantially as a person, becoming someone I'm not completely disgusted with. Your growth is inspirational to us all and truly represents the upwards climb and inner potential that exists even in the worst filth in the world.

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Steven you're a fucking prick who gets butt hurt when an insult hits him.

But you're really fun to talk to. You have an amazing imagination and strive to be the best, and you've shown that with stories and with words. Your story, Achilles, was the reason I signed up for this site. Continue to be the best, Steve.

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Stop being a faggot.

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1. Left-leaning.
2. Completely legal. If the mother can't take care of her child or doesn't want it for any reason, it is her choice what to do with it. There are lots of children in the world anyway, it won't fall apart if one dies.
3. 0, god is imaginary.
4. It is legal, I have nothing against it.
5. It is legal, I have nothing against it. I have never met Caitlyn Jenner, so no.
6. It's ok Steve, you don't need to give me a compliment. I know you don't want to.
7. Do nothing.
8. 3, he is one of America's more questionable choices.
9. It has its faults, but so does every other religion. I have nothing against it.
10. I have failed and I don't care.
11. The best at what? There is no nation that is the best at everything.
12. I don't support it.
13. I don't see why normal people would need to own a gun. Guns should be restricted to those that know how to use them and won't use them for crime. If nothing else, there should at least be more tests you need to pass before you get a gun, to check if you know how to use it and are mentally stable.
14. Yes, if the patient agrees.

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I would really really hope no one here is arguing for euthanasia even when the patient doesn't agree, yikes.

I want to argue about the 'normal people don't need a gun' thing but Will's answer was far more definite than yours so I'll wait to argue with him instead if he ever gets back to me on why hunters should stop hunting.

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Sorry, that was just awful wording from my side.
I just don't see the need for one. I understand the need for a gun when hunting, but if you do not need it for your job, why have it? Here almost nobody owns a gun and yet we all still survive, not to mention that we have far less shootings.

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Mayana stop being retarded, Mizal's clearly right. Why do you think the number of mass shooting, shootings and crime in general is more in Slovenia and Ireland, gunless wastelands?

Oh hang on, might need to check that, Miz.

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Well, you fucked up question 11 like a cunt, but I'll give you a free pass because I have a lot of pity for your eyeless little head.

Well fuck it, so far despite your strange, puberty-incited bouts of anger towards me, you're alright. You've learnt the proper use of 'craic' quickly, your opinions aren't dog shit like half the dumb motherfuckers on this site, you're able to make jokes and have craic and fuck with people, which is good banter, you seem to have enough self-deprecation to prevent yourself from becoming an egotistical prick like many others who manage to stand slightly above the rest of the filth, and you have the great fortune of being born in a relatively good country that's far better than the shitty, miserable hellhole of the rest of these savage's countries. Overall, you've at least managed to be tolerable and much of the time likeable, putting you far above the rest of the common shitheads I know. Well done.

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1. Left-leaning. I am all for this democracy, but too much guns causes bad things for the health.

2.Hell, if it was unwanted like the woman was raped, she should have the right to choose. Otherwise, however, few reasons are important enough to allow abortion.

3. Seventh-day Adventist. I can say I would give myself a 3.5, because I will usually stand up for what I believe in, but not to the point where I drive some plane into some World Trade Center.

4. It's their choice, why should I try to break down what their orientation is? Just don't rub your kinks into my hetero face.

5. Same as #4. Go pay someone else to dip their wick into ya, Brucelyn!

6. Why are WC sympathizers considered the plague around here?

7. Immigration laws should be a little less heavy-handed. I mean, that guy from Pakistan went there because he thought he was in the land of golden opportunity, and you deny him that because a oaper is missing from his documents? Instead, USA should increase its airport security!

8. I'm gracious enough to give a 4. I mean, an unknowledgeable tycoon sounds better than some lying ISIS queen. Still, his final position on things is that he keeps changing positions, and I don't like that.

9. It's a religion. Something some people believe in. I'm not correcting them for their beliefs. In short, it's also a religion of peace, which is quite different from what the raghead dolts show on TV.

10. I have failed, for I have only watched A New Life and Rogue One.

11. Germany, Italy, Japan, Canada, Philippines

12. Yes. Any sex-related criminal offense deserves that. Hannibal Lecter wannabes also get the death penalty. For that, I would suggest lethal injection.

13. Yes. You can have any gun, providing that you have proof that YOU ARE MENTALLY FIT TO HANDLE THEM, TRAINED HOW TO HANDLE THEM, ACCURATE ENOUGH WHEN HANDLING THEM, AND THAT YOU WON'T SHOOT UP SCHIOLS WHILE HANDLING THEM.

14. Yes. If the person is in extreme pain (e.g. jacknifed car struck by a train) and asks for it himself, then don't let the poor bastard suffer. Literally, put an end to his misery.

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Someone will explain the WC thing more humorously/in more detail later but basically they were flooding the site with crap stories, responded badly to criticism and advice and seemed incapable of learning, and their very presence here attracted more of their kind to do the same.

They're basically the reason the site has quality control on the stories at all, and the reason we all hate children.

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I bet Sent can do a more humorous explanation, but from what I understand, it seems the WC fandom consists majorly of bratty cuck "teens" who can't take criticism, even the uplifting kind. Amirite?

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Brucelyn? Uh. Call her Catelyn or say he's a fucking degnerate, don't do whatever that is. Fuck it, complements. And fuck is, A New Life? Goddamn Retard.

Uh... you were brave enough to reply to this thread rather than be a pussy scared about changing views... and your profiler is drinking and that's good.

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Feck, I was too drunk to see that I shoulda put A New HOPE. Bastard self that I am. But hey, at least I got a free compliment from Mr. Spiky Guinea Pig.

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1. I don't fit into those terms too well for my country. I suppose I'm a socially conservative, environmentally and economically moderate, a isolationist/neo-con hybrid for foreign policy, and anti-establishmnet believer in federalism. 

2. For myself, fetus = human. Thus, I believe abortion should be highly limited. Unless the mother's life is in danger (and/or if conception occurred due to rape or incest), I do not support abortion. I would also like it if abortion laws were up to the states and not the SCOTUS. Nonetheless, this doesn't mean I'm an arse to individuals who chose to have an abortion or support abortions.

3. 5. I would have no problem becoming a pilot if God said so (which I don't believe would ever happen). I would not fly the plane into any individuals or buildings as an act of terrorism however. 

4. I believe people are not regulated to one single category. People are capable of choosing whatever they want to do when it comes to sexual stimulation. I am attracted to the opposite gender. I'm not an arse to homosexual individuals, and I have worked for several before.

5. People can change their bodies, for it is theirs to control. I do not believe it is the right thing to do. Then again, I'm also not fond of tattoos or piercing. I would be likely to have sex with anybody let alone Caitlyn Jenner. If I do, it would not be her due to age and differences in beliefs.

6. Do you believe Northern Ireland should join with the rest of Ireland, become independent of the UK, or keep the status quo.

7. I believe the current system in the United States is innefective. I believe increased border security, a pathway to legal status, and kicking out illegal immigrants who committed other and dangerous crimes are all good options to take. Being an arse to any type of immigrant due to their culture or legal status is wrong.

8. Well, the world hasn't been nuked yet, so that's rather nice. I suppose a 5. He hasn't done enough yet for me to form a lasting opinion, and I do not want to rush to judgment. I'm somewhat fond of his SCOTUS nominee, and I support his actions against Syria. Nonetheless, he and his cabinet appear to be disorganized.

9. Most Muslims are fine people in the same way I can speak of any religion. Professing adherence to a specific religion and actually do moral things do not necessarily have a correlation. I do not like many of the governments of nations that happen to be Muslim majority (such as Syria or Iran), but Jordan is one of my favorite countries in the world.

10. Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi, The Force Awakens, A New Hope, Rouge One, The Empire Strikes Back.

11. Israel, South Korea, USA, Ireland, Switzerland. Northern Ireland would be one the list if it was its own country.

12. I could go either way. There is no way I'd support any death penalty for anything that is some form of several murders, rape, espionage, or terrorism. I am fine with having the states decide on these requirements.

13. I want my arms to have the ability to bear arms if I so choose (though I do not). Automatic weapons need to be regulated. Training needs to occur for a conceal and carry permit, and it has no be when the person is over 18 to 21 depending on the state. People who are medically verified to be dangerous due to their mental state and felons should not have guns. Keep your hands off of shotguns, automatic-weapons, and pistols for the general population. Background checks are fine. Firing a gun into the air is dangerous especially when the individual in question is not looking up to see what is up there.

14. Quite frankly, I do not support euthanasia, but I believe it is up to the states to decide.

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Israel? Fucking Israel came first?! Dear fucking god. Anyhow, you managed to have one belief that wasn't absolute shit, so well done.

Oh tiny, secretive Wibbons, you're truly a mixed basket. You've always been a really nice member of the site and tend to be a pleasure to talk to, your deep-founded hatred of cats is something oft-expressed and completely rational and in my opinion mandatory for any semi-decent person. Plus, you're clearly intelligent enough to be one of the few, if not the only person to note whether its OK to fire your gun into the air while screaming, so well done.

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Alright then. I'm prepared for the criticism that will no doubt come, but I probably won't answer many things that people ask me. 

1. Politics: My beliefs most often coincide with the right wing, and I find myself disagreeing with the left quite often. 

2: Abortion: Abortion should be something that is a rare occurrence. Most arguments for abortion have me relatively confounded. Once the egg is fertilized, there is a human being being grown there. Therefore, "a woman should have the right to do whatever she wants with her body," is crap. As soon as a baby is growing, then it is no longer her body. 

3: I'm a Christian. 5 of 5. Religion is my life.

4: Knock yourself out. Be homosexual or don't. I won't, and I don't treat people differently that do. Or at least I try not to. I just don't find it very appealing to begin with, and that's leaving out the religious side of things...

5: Tranvestites: The definition of gender is some social construct thing, and I won't look it up, because I just avoid everything that has to do with it. I wouldn't even think of going out (let alone having sex with anyone) that attempted to change their gender. Again, I still try not to treat those people any different from everybody else. 

6: How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb? Trick question, feminists can't change anything. 

7: Wetbacks: Illegals don't pay taxes for our country. Therefore they don't contribute as a citizen should, and should not be in our country. Leave, then come back when you're a citizen. That way you'll contribute for the good of the country instead of just for themselves. That being said, becoming a citizen should be easier. As for actual immigrants... I'm not quite sure. Be productive while you're here, and don't do illegal things. Knock yourself out.

8: Trump: I'd rather have him than Hillary. Honestly, people don't like his personality. A lot of people don't like his personality, but the left hates him even more. He isn't doing that bad right now. Oh, and keep bombing ISIS. Maybe two MOAB's next time?

9: Islam: They have the right to believe what they want, but don't force it down my throat. Not saying all muslims are terrorists here, but any terrorists need to be taken care of. If they happen to be Muslim, then that doesn't change anything. 

10: I have failed. My bad, I haven't seen Rogue One, but  here's the rest of the list. 6 (I loved this one when I was younger, so maybe the nostalgia factor boosts it?) 5, 4, 3, 7, 1, 2.

11: EndMaster's answer was the most correct for mine, but I kinda want Steve to attempt to give me a compliment even though my views are probably close to opposite of his. America, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand. English speaking ftw. 

12: Yes. Murder, severe cases of rape might as well.

13: Guns. Guns for everyone. Kidding, but yes we should have the right to bear arms. Gun control laws, would simply deprive the common man from defending themselves. There's a city in Honduras; it has the most shootings in the world (last I checked) but it also has some of the most strict gun laws as well. Think about it like this. If I'm going to use a gun to kill someone, then do you think it matters if there are gun control laws? I'd be able to get the gun somehow someway, regardless of whether or not assault rifles are illegal. If I'm planning on murdering someone, then would I really care about getting a gun through a smaller much less significant crime?

14: Euthanasia: Not really no. 

 

 

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Edit locking for no particular reason. Please note that I messed up the Star Wars order. 

 

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7 days ago

Fucking hell, there are far too many religious fuckers on this site. Also, you don't seem to understand how being an illegal works. Oh, and you fucked up the Star Wars thing.

Ebon, for your entire history on the site up until right before I read your answers you've been a likeable, amiable person who I never particularly hated. Well done on that. Despite being fairly new and not having written anything, you've established yourself well enough that you're a well-recognized and well-liked member of the community.

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I'll point out End can eat a dick, there's more than enough people here who are OK with Trump, support American exceptionalism and the right to bear arms that they can go fuck themselves, they're right wing everywhere worth living.

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Score So Far:

Left

Steve
T-Count
Ford
Minnie
T4
Orange
IAP
Beta
Jep
Nycto
Sent
Urnam0
Zag
Will
Liang
Mayana
AgentX

Puddlebunni

Romulus

BigBootyJudy

Sonic

Tim

Aducan
Crescent

Digit

RoyalGhost

Fazz

Right

Mizal
End
Mason
Wibbons
Ebon

Shinobi

Bucky

Danaos

This place still has way more degenerate liberal tranny faggotry than conservative nut jobbery.

So yeah, still WINNING. yes

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You can go fuck yourself, no one who said America, a massively right-wing country, was the best country counts as left wing, they're all right. 

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And everyone on that leftist list supported gay/trans rights and was okay with immigrants, that makes them left not right.

What, you want me to move Zag over the right side too? I can, but it still doesn't change the score much. Besides, looks like Puddlebunni can take his place on the left side.

Face it, as usual you're grasping at straws with your ass cheeks again. But then again being delusional is pretty common for your people.

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Pffh, everyone supports gay rights and likes immigrants, doesn't change the fact that they're all right. It's like if I said I'm no anti-Semite but I love Hitler.

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Don't see much of a problem with loving Hitler if you don't hate Jews.

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That's because you never were the brightest, Temp.

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I mean, you can like the uniforms and the swords and laughing with monocles and weird cigarrette holds, but you don't have to agree with the politics.

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I suppose, the metaphor's not perfect.

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It kind of is perfect. It's totally possible and normal to like the place in which you live, but not agree with its politics. That's the whole reason it's a republic to begin with.

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I never said anything about liking. I'm talking about those who consider it the best country.

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You can still think a geographical place is better if you've had a nice time living there, still without agreeing with how it's running.

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No, then you'd be an idiot. Like if I said my bed was the better bed of both ours because I've only had a nice time sleeping in my bed.

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The whole purpose of a bed is that you sleep in it, just like the whole purpose of a country is that you live in it. So yes, if you've had a nice time sleeping, then it's a perfectly valid stance.

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No, that's not how anything works. You can't say something is the best because it's all you've experianced, that's absurd.

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Well, fine, then I'd say Wisconsin is best after having experienced Colorado, Illinois, New Mexico, and Germany, but Wisconsin isn't a country and Germany isn't better.

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Well fuck, you don't need to live in a country to judge it, you can just take into account its policies, government and all that.

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Oh, well in that case, I've stuck my hand in quite a few beds, and I still prefer the bed that I'm in because I've made a warm, comfortable niche between all the little fiddly aspects, and can still work on improving the parts I don't like it with the people I know and whatever connections I have. Living in a country is still enough of a reason for it to be the best or one of the best, in one's opinion, simply because of your roots and your ability to change it and familiarity with living there. You don't necessarily have to agree with the politics and what it does on a global scale.

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No, it's not, as we've established. Just because you live in the country and enjoyed living there doesn't give you the ability to determine its the best country.

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The reason we have countries is so we can live well in them. If it fulfills that purpose for you better than all the other countries, then it's perfectly reasonable for them to feel that it's the best country. You don't have to agree with the politics or what a bureaucracy decides to do, if a geographical location and the social norms and legal standings that affect you directly most of the time in your life are preferable, then the place is preferable. It's entirely reasonable and logical to put home in your top 5, because that's the comfy bed you've experienced though you've looked into or you've been to other places. 

Especially because you never even specified what "best" means. Puddlebunni went for food and anime, I liked the Napoleonic Wars, Will's list looked like a bunch of vacation destinations, and it probably was. Could they have been talking about politics? Sure, but they probably didn't put as much thought into it as a person who routinely goes into lengthy explanations as to what sucks about it. "It's the place I live, and I like how I live" is just as valid as "This place doesn't declare wars and it has moral healthcare practices" or "Yay Gun Jesus" when you never explain what catergory you want us to judge a country on. Just because America is controlled by the Right Wing right now doesn't make someone who likes America Right Wing, it just means they like the place they're at.

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If it fulfils that better, that's not the situation being put forward. This is them only experiancing one, as they said.

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And experience is a perfectly valid reason to prefer something. It's different if you're not willing to try anything new, but hey, you asked them to list 5 countries, so they have whatever experience to consider even if they haven't personally lived in a place. It's not like you automatically jump to political thought when you choose countries. It's easy, and still a perfectly valid option by the rules of the questionnaire, to stay on an individual level and consider your experiences. I've experienced some pretty interesting documentaries, food recipes, weaponry, and articles about Napoleonic France. I couldn't really give a damn about the finer points in the politics of the place, it's not a subject I head to, but I really disagree with a semi-totalitarian emperor trying to fix a food and trade shortage by conquering the world and roping all their problems in with ours.

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No, not when you've not experienced or looked into any alternatives.

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I don't think there's a single person on the internet who hasn't "looked into" alternative ways of living.

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And if they have and deemed America the best, they either be wrong, as many other countries do things better or would value some part of America that's shitty, like it's right-wing gun policies.

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Or they enjoy how they live here and now, as opposed to the other places they've looked into, instead of jumping straight into political policies that don't have any bearing on everyday life under the idle self-analysis you deal when you're filling out a questionnaire.

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Then they're idiots, as the standard of living in America isn't the highest.

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Neither is it in Ireland, but everyone has their comfortable niches. We could go on about alternate realities where everything about our lives is essentially the same except the laws and armies we're under until the cows come home, but the point remains that people tend to live in whatever manner they've made for themselves and generally don't go looking for their personal utopia in faraway places when they could be making their present situation better.

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Yeah, they say that, but they're wrong. Terrific.

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Sent I just want to say your posts in this topic so far are some of the most coherent and on topic I've ever seen from you, and I am very proud.

Steve has been steadily losing ground to you and End I see but tbf it's like 1am for him and earlier he mentioned something about spending the day high in a forest. I guess it's understandable if he's not at the top of his game right now.

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It's the Angory Tom Avatar. The British accent in my head lends me a smartsness.

Then again, I used to do this exact kind of arguing when I was a bored 14 y/o around here, if memory serves. I just had stupider opinions then.

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Your ass bleeds. Supporting LGBT folks and immigrants is firmly in the liberal camp, most folks on the right don't support that shit.

Most of the people here still rated Trump low, (even some of the right leaning folks) so again not really convincing that this place is right wing.

And to top it off anyone that didn't put America as the best country in the number one slot is obviously a degenerate with leftist leanings.

So fuck you and I'm still fucking WINNING.

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Fuck that, rating Trump low is everyone intelligent, one person put fucking ISRAEL as top so that's sure as shit right wing and fairly fucking despicable, and everyone supports LGBT people now, or at least has the "Whatever" approach, like when it became OK to be black. Even the fucking pope is soft on it, and soon enough the church will start marrying gays and having gay ministers and try move on from it.

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And your ass continues to suck buttermilk.

You just said there was a shitload of people okay with Donald Trump and that was proof of right wingism. When I proved that wasn’t actually the case, now you’re just claiming “Well of course not, they’re intelligent.” Which is fine, but that has no fucking support for your argument about the place being right wing or not. If anything it’s a strike against it.

Oh whoopee, some Jew lover put Israel as a number one. Doesn’t mean shit, considering Israel is practically a US foothold in the middle east anyway. Unless you’re going to go the white supremacist approach and claim the US is actually Israel’s foothold in North America, but that’s a whole different argument.

And considering the Israelis are practically surrounded by enemies that are constantly fucking with them, it’s actually amazing they aren’t more ruthless than they really should be. (Too bad Aman and Tan aren’t around anymore, they’d probably care more about this to go into a shitload more detail)

Finally, the Catholic Church is a fucking old and slowly dying organization that’s abandoning their fucking belief system in a desperate attempt to change with the times so it doesn’t go completely obsolete.

Yeah, they’re still conservative for now, but as you like pointing out you can’t just dismiss the whole “Stone the gays” shit in the Bible without the book becoming completely fucking meaningless. You either believe in the book or your don’t, you can’t pick and choose.

So at best they’re fucking cynical and they don’t actually believe in anything, meaning they aren’t really true believers in the first fucking place and their dedication to “right wing” beliefs is questionable. At worst, the entire organization is genuinely becoming more left which in turn no longer makes them right wing either.

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If you support Trump, you're right wing, but that doesn't mean if you don't you're not. Fairly simple. If you smoke crack, you do drugs. If you don't, that doesn't necessarily mean you don't do drugs.

Fuck off, Israel's a bunch of religious fanatics who believe the land is theres because the magic sky man said so.

Fuck that, they took a shit ton of people's land, people got angry and now you're wondering why Israel's not more pissed people got angry.

Eh, I'd say that's most of Christianity.

Yeah, all these pro-gay religious people are hypocritical idiots, that doesn't change anything. 

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Yeah, because you’re some great defender of the Palestinian cause, meanwhile you’re routinely call arabs a bunch of backwards raghead fanatics on a regular basis. Fuck off, if anything the Jews are being way more tolerant if the roles were reversed.

As for the rest, you’ve basically you’ve admitted I’m right and you’re still flailing around with your head up your ass. Thanks.

And try not to cry anymore about the puppy your mom sold. Lol.

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Sure I do, but I don't support one group of religious fuckers doing this shit to another. The Jews being more tolerant than the Muslims would in reverse situation is of little relevance, anyhow.

It seems you're misunderstanding. It is hard to read when your head is up your ass.

I liked that puppy.

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Pfft if you don't like it here then move to Canada COG.

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Wait, you're 40-something, and you said you were a white-looking Mexican guy, and you're WINNING.

End, are you Charlie Sheen? Have you been hiding this from us the whole fucking time!?

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Shit, busted.

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Apparently because few people like political heirarchies in which the president's ne'er-do-well spoiled sons are the only ones who can try to run for a decent-paying political position?

 

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Yaaaaaaay, personal question time! Sounds snazzy! I'll try to answer well, even though nobody (But Steve?) really cares or something.

1. Politics: Um, I guess I agree with a lot of Liberal things, but I suppose I'm really out of it! I wanna keep up with politics more, really. My step-father claims that "liberalism is not the way of Jesus".

2. Abortion: I don't think abortion should be used as birth-control, but I think it's appropriate to use it in some cases. Women's rights and stuff.

3. Religion: I grew up in a Christian/Muslim family (my parents got married in a Mosque). Now with my new family, they are...very corn-fed, kill-homos for Jesus Christians. I think I believe in God, but I ask a lot of questions sometimes.

4. Queer: I'm probably the straightest person I know, although my taste is not so much on the "football and man hiking, raaah!" side. People can like who they like, ain't no problemo with me!

5. Tranvestites: Sure, whatever! There are a few kids in my dev class that have gone through the process and they're happy campers. I would not have sex wih Caitlyn Jenner, as she's not really my style (even if I did swing that way) and I don't like her as a person.

6. Bullshit: I've been addicted to Suikoden 2 for the last 13 hours somebody help me

7. Wetbacks: I guess I don't really care. My dad was an immigrant, did it all legally, but I also have friends who've come here illegally (Dang Mexi-CANS!) and I suppose it don't matter a lick to me.

8. Trump: I think that his fan club is composed of closed minded nuth'n-noggins who beat their sons with belts because vaccines cause The Gays. If you like Trump, sure! Just don't be that guy ("Trump is sent from Jesus."--Step father).

9. Islam: Grew up around it, Islamphobia pisses me off. It's about reverence to God, not eating dogs or worshipping meteorites.

10. Star Wars: Um, if I have to watch StarWars again, I will end myself. DONE WITH THESE MARATHONS. I like Han Solo, though. I wanna be him! He's the face of adventure.

11. Nations: the onl y nation tht maters  is   jap!n!!!1! haha nya ikkemen-sama alll ot her country can suck kiritoto's dick :33

12. The Death Penalty: Don't support it. Tis' so 'spensive!

13. Guns: I've had bad experiences with guns, so naturally, I have an aversion to them! I don't need 'em! But other people can have 'em, I guess. Hunting isn't my thing.

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You only listed one country, you don't get a complement.

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1) japan

2) nihon

3) land of the rising sun

4) nippon

5) nippon ichi

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Go fuck yourself, you get nothing.

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Hehe, okaaay, I'll answer seriously this time:

1) Italy. Nice music, good pizza. Beautiful water, wow!

2) India. Lung cancer and delicious food abundant.

3) Thailand. Dogs are illegal to eat there now, you know? Shame.

4) Morocco. Ah, my home country. A welcoming people and a lotta camels, as well as good food.

5) France. Food, uh, and food. I really like different kinds of food to be honest.

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Ooh, unfortunately, it's far too late for this submission.

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If Steve won't complement you, I guess I will. Steve, you lazy fuck.

Puddlebunni, you are a talented author, and although your pieces tend to be a little rough around the edges, I thoroughly enjoy all your entries in the writing prompt threads. You're a very creative individual and definitely have above average writing, despite a few flaws in your pieces. Well done. 

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Minnie, you chungus, I already complimented her.

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Who doesn't like two compliments?

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Nobody, that's why I wrote 7.

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Then that's a total of 8. Who doesn't like 8 compliments?

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I don't like 8 compliments. 8 is too many compliments to have in one sitting without a good slap on the wrist in between.

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If I miraculously became the 30th doctor, I would try to act like Gene Wilder, and every time I would enter a room, a Ziggy Stardust song would play. Also, Caerbog would get only the best sacrifices. Also also, I would probably trade my entire Bloodbowl team for Mother 4 actually coming out.

They were very finely written half-assed compliments!

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Wait, just so I'm sure I'm not roping myself into anything, what are your opinions on the Himalayan Monal?

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Their beautiful, iridescent feathers are reminiscent of that of the glittering jewel wasps! Except, I guess it wouldn't be "that of" 'cos jewel wasps don't have feathers, but they certainly look similar! Except for I doubt that Himalayan Monals dig under people's skin and lay their eggs so their babies can eat the victim from the inside out. Wouldn't that be craaaAAAaaazy?

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Oh, okay. So I can officially upgrade that compliment to "I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion on the Himalayan Monal".

And it's always good to know that Caerbog only gets the best sacrfices. His godly actions have always tended to be more of a "take what you need, pay what you want" kinda service, so it always warms his tentacled charcoal heart  to know that total strangers still give him the best they can.

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Oh, MinnieKing, that is real sweet of you. I was having a soggy lasagna day, too! I think you make this site a better place.

Also, Steve is just being a lil' ol' ornery hedgehog, so if he was truly sweet, that would be a serious case of cognitive dissonance! How crazy would thaaat be! I think he should stay as prickly as he always is.

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Here's some second-rate compliments for a revised sheet:

I'm sure your favorite Bloodbowl team is the best one. You have a good taste in kilt fabrics. Caerbog is always pleased with your sacrifice. You are like the paisely pattern of people. If you wore corduroy overalls, only Steve would make fun of you. I probably agree with your opinion(s) on Himilayan Monals. There is a marginally more than very bad chance that you could grow up to play the 30th Doctor.

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1. Left(-leaning). I'm pretty much in favour of an extensive welfare state and such, and reducing income inequality. So according to US standards, I'd probably be burned on the stake for being a commie. 

2. Pretty much in favour. I do think it should be a well-thought through choice, but it's ultimately the parents' own choice.

3. I'd say about 0,5.

4. Don't see any reason to be against it. Í'm currently in a room. 

5. Same as 4, let people do what they feel right. I would however, rather not have intercourse with Caitlyn Jenner. 

6. Can't come up with a question, but don't really have respect for myself, so I guess I'll just don't ask a question, but fill in something?

7. I'm in favour of more lenient immigration laws, with regards to for example work visas and asylum applications. If anything, strict laws often lead to more people hiring people smugglers and the like, or entering a country in other illegal/undocumented ways, which makes governmental oversight even more difficult. I'm (thankfully) not from the US by the way. 

8. He started out as a four, but is moving towards a three after recent developments. He's definitely not Satan (yet), but Bush (Jr.) is starting to look good. 

9. I don't mind religion in general, and I think many religions (Islam included) have a core message that's basically good. It's radicalism that's dangerous, both for Islam and other religions, and for pretty much life philosophy in general. Like in question 7, I'm still not American, and am still not religious either.

10. 5,4,6,R1,7,3,2,1.

11. Norway (but only the Svalbard part), North South Korea, the jungles of French Guyana, Antarctica, and North Dakota.

12. I'm against the death penalty. 

13. I'm also against the right to bear arms. Gun ranges and such are fine, but outside those, the monopoly on violence should lie with the state.

14. I support euthanasia. It of course depends on the individual circumstances, and is too debatable for a short questionnaire, but if someone wants to die, and made a conscious choice to do so (without the prospect of improvement) they'll try to commit suicide anyway. It's better to do it humanely.   

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North Dakota best dakota!

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One of your countries listed is not a country, you don't get a complement. I'm getting stricter on this shit.

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To be fair, your question said 'nation', not 'state' or 'country'. I can't help it you don't know how to make unambiguous questionnaires. 

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Too fucking bad, motherfuckere!

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I'm sure you have pleasant teeth. If you ever try to make guacamole, you will surely be really good at it. Reading is something that you do well. Your hygeine is impeccable. If there were wizards, you would be one. If you were an excel spreadsheet, you would be one of the ones that have very organised boxes and there would be parts that automatically do really cool, complex math things based on the numbers and letters in your boxes. Your shoulders are probably functional.

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How high were you when you wrote this?

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Not at all. I was just trying very hard to give lukewarm, mediocre compliments, because I felt like making fun of consolation prizes.

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1 - Independent. 

2 - Banned completely. 

3 - Christian. But not strict. 

4 - Very very okay with it. I identify as heteroromantic bisexual. 

5 - Sometimes it's confusing but hey man, it's okay. 

6 - Bullshit - I don't know why I'm doing this. 

7 - The government shouldn't keep all immigrants out but they should be more thorough and aware of who they let in. 

8 - I don't like him but I also don't like America. 

9 - I'm chill with it. It's just another religion.

10 - I have failed I guess.

11 - Aus, UK, Italy, Spain, India, Africa. 

12 - Hate the death penalty. 

13 - I support it. 

14 - No way. 

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Wait, if you don't death penalty, abortion, or euthanise, why the hell do you gun!?

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I feel like it's just the kind of person who wants to maximize peoples pain like, "no, don't kill him, drop hot coals on his back."

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Pff, in that case, they should legalize more knives. None of this gun bullshit. Guns are expensive and quick.

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Depends on the type of gun and where you shoot.

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The most slow and painful guns are improvised and/or underpowered. You can get those guns in gunless states like Germany, for shit's sake, why support Gun-ness as it stands in America!? Well, I guess she's probably Australian, so maybe she's a farmer or some shit.

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I'm sadly American. I support guns because they're there to protect people. I don't support using a gun necessarily to kill, but you can't just protect yourself from a robber by using a knife. 

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Then buy a katana. Or an iron.

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If guns are illegal, the "bad guys" will always find a way to get them. It would leave the general population helpless. That's why I support it. But a katana would be hella cool man. 

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You can. If you can take him by surprise and get stabbing, (which is easy in a close-quarters situation, like an alleyway) there's no real way to defend against it other than running. 90% of knife violence is a surprise attack with a sharp object and rapid stabs. Nothing they teach in anything from Kung Fu to Krav Maga reliably defends from a knife attack, and if you hold off his gun hand (Or stab his wrists) he'll be in extreme pain, bleeding, and probably demoralised/in extreme trauma. A few more variables come into play in a knife fight than a gun fight, but they both cause similarly serious harm in the same time frame. It's a mite easier to patch up knife wounds afterwards, and being stabbed is a lot more visceral and scary to the attacker than getting shot back at. If adrenaline's high enough, he might not even realise it until he's shot you back.

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I'm sure this would make for a very cool fight scene in a story but IRL I don't want to have to learn how to be Buffy, if someone smashes the door in in the middle of the night I just want to point at them from a reasonable distance and make them fall down.

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I mean, yeah, I agree that guns are a million times more practical. I'm just saying, in a perfect pacifistic utopia where nobody is allowed to kill or die, there are less instantly lethal ways to seriously harm someone.

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You failed to use the number system for 3. and 8., no complement.

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1. I am fairly left wing. Though I do not know much about politics, I agree that we should support the people in our communities who may be struggling. I feel everyone should have an equal amount of opportunities to succeed.

2. Abortion has always been a tough one for me. I don't have too strong of an opinion regarding its legality, but ultimately I feel that the mother should have a fair window of time to make a decision before the fetus develops too much. (Maybe like 5 of 6 months max.)

3. I was lightly raised as Catholic up until I was seven or eight, then my family stopped going to church. When I say lightly, I mean that we only said grace on holidays and we maybe went to church like once or twice a month. So maybe a 2 out of 5 on the religious scale. Now I am a 0. Outright atheist. "God" had let me down so often, and had been debunked and disproven by science and reason so frequently that I was lead to believe he a) Doesn't exist, or b) Is so cruel and unforgiving that he isn't a leader worth worshipping.

4. I couldn't care less where people stick their dicks. Just do what makes you happy. I'm straight as far as I'm aware.

5. I really don't get why transgender people care so much about pronouns. "He, she, it, they" who gives a shit? They're there to extinguish certain people and things apart, doesn't change shit about who you really are. Wanna be a guy who fucks guys? Sure. Wanna dress like a woman, collect my little pony figurines and Bratz merchandise? Knock yourself out. But don't get mad if someone calls you the wrong pronoun because they are just pointless words that don't mean shit about who you really are. And no. I don't think I would.

6. Watched the show 13 reasons why about a week ago. I really liked it even though it started out weak with cringy, typical, Life is Strange-esque teenage angst bullshit.

8. I feel that if there's anyone who is going to start WWIII, it's Trump and Hillary. Before he stupidly decided to launch the largest non-nuclear bomb ever in an attempt to "fight ISIS?'' but instead angered his own lapdog, I thought he might get through the term without fucking up too much stuff. But now, I'm confident that we may indeed be on the brink of WWIII. Actually this time! But yeah, fuck him. he is Satan.

9. I do not support the Islam religion. Note that I did not say the people within that religion (which is the conclusion most people jump to when I tell them this). Islam, at least I feel, is a harmful and hateful religion which Islamic people seem to cherry pick the good qualities out of. But at its core, the quran promotes pedophelia and terrorism. Even if the majority of Islamic individuals do not believe in all that, they are still part of a religion that endorses that, and the rest of the religion is tied to that. If one part of your religion is wrong, then how likely is it that the rest of it is right?

10. I have failed.

11. I'm gonna leave politics out of this question and just answer personally in the order I like these. 1.The UK  2.Canada 3.Mexico (the tour guides have a fun sense of humor there) 4.France 5.Germany

12. I think someone who has consistently been in and out of prison for doing terrible things and is a repeat offender should be put to death. Especially for rape and murder. If they're going to be doing these things, then why do we even need them here? EDIT: Also this law can strike more fear in the minds of criminals.

13. Gun laws in the US are stupid. It's easier to get a driver's license than it is to get a gun license. By getting a gun to protect your family, you are just piling on to the problem. You have a significantly bigger chance of getting a loved one killed than by saving them with it. And regardless, whoever is intruding your home is gonna be buying way more guns than you.

14. If the family or loved ones of the patient agree to it, I see nothing wrong with wanting to end their pain.

 

So there you have it. Now you have to come up with another compliment for yet another annoying little shit!

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7 days ago
no star wars = no compliment

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You liked 13 Reasons Why? THIRTEEN FUCKING REASONS WHY!?! MOTHERFUCKER! YOU WASTE OF A FUCKING BRAIN, YOU CUMSTAIN MOTHERFUCKER ON THE FUCKING PLANET EARTH!

Fucking hell, I guess I need to give a complement, but it's like you just told me you raped my dog's eye. Give me a few.

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Ahahaha, I saw this coming.

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Your morals seem to fine. You're one of the only motherfuckers so far who had the balls to shit on Islam, so that's a definite plus. You're one of the few cunts who's actually writing and consistently updating, (time-frame not taken into account), and you're clearly intelligent enough to self-depreciate yourself in the presence of such a glorious creature such as I. Your taste in TV shows clearly shows you have the self-confidence to enjoy what you enjoy, no matter how shitty, evil or fucking miserable and suicide glorifying it is. Well done.

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There are a lot of people in this thread who have clearly never been in the country and/or want Mizal to be killed by rattlesnakes or drug addicts, and that makes me sad.

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If it makes you feel better, I don't want you to die by the hand of snakes or addicts.

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I want to die. 

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...Well that killed the mood...

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Y'know, that's not very healthy. Mostly due to the fact that most living things have an urge to preserve their own lives/the lives of their species.

Is there any reason why you want to die?

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I hate myself. 

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Well, I can understand that. As a fellow wretched human doomed to do what I hate, I share your pain. Is there anything in specific you hate about yourself?

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Zag, you need to become a counseler, or a life coach, or a teacher.

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or smoke a furry and become a degenerate like the rest of us

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I do plan on becoming a teacher! Thanks for solidifying my aspirations. :D

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Literally everything man. I'm such a horrible person but ay it's "fine" 

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Have you ever considered memes? Memes help.

or like, maybe the novel idea of not going on the internet expecting a cake on a silver platter with icing that says "cheer up buttercup!" on it

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What's better than complaining about my life to random strangers on a site though? I'd rather have sympathy cupcakes, thanks. 

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Laughter is the best medicine.

But Judy, you are not alone. Many people deal with sef-depreciation and most people are horrible. However, don't let this drag you down! You are valued, just look around. You just have emotions and things that aren't being dealt with, and that's not fine.

I encourage you to find someone you can talk to about these things.

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Judy you can PM me and I'll gladly talk with you about anything :^)

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*preferably find someone you can talk to face-to-face

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faces shmaces all you really need is an outlet of anykind. It's about sharing feelings and thoughts no matter how complex and having someone listen and understand - regardless of format.

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true true but I'm sure someone who knows Judy IRL would be able to help a bit more.

 

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I thought she was Nycto's girlfriend.

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She is?

No wonder she wants to die.

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He is my boyfriend & one of the very few things that actually make me happy. "Depression" is what actually makes me want to die and yes, I'm diagnosed with it. It's a whole bunch of fun. 

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Ah, you should really get into contact with Ford then. He has several remedies for depression apparently.

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Diagnosed with depression? Take antidepressants, that's why they were invented.

Seriously though, DON'T think about wanting to die. Instead , think about how much potential you have in life. You were born into this world for a reason, don't waste that chance when you still have many years to live and experience for. Instead of saying you're depressed, say you're a highly motivated optimist who dislikes negative thoughts. Fake confidence, if continuously used, will turn into real confidence and so you have no need to pretend that you're positive thinking.

Not some psychologist or anything, but it's easy to find a suggestion on how to solve your problem. 

Also, don't say "everybody hates me", for example. You haven't traveled the whole world yet, there's still hope that people out there that you haven't known might like you.

Just offering my suggestions.

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Lol.

I just remember someone here saying they knew her in real life and Nycto recently said that "Her big booty" was protecting him from the fire going on in Malk's thread, so I'm guessing that they're an item.

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This kind of information is so easy to miss sometimes.

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I take offense at that.

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You take offense to everything. @Nyctophilia

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Fight me

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I'd rather fuck.

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All the more reason to PM me. We have a common acquaintance.

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Ford I'm not sure more stories of family members you've been molested by is what the girl needs right now.

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I will not lie, I thought Nycto was dating Naomi (old Nycto) and there was something he wasn't telling us about himself.

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For all we know Judy and Nycto are still the same person.

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Would that mean... Nycto is the one with the big booty and he's defending himself with it? Unless it's REALLY big, he'd have to stretch so much to like, shield himself...

...

Can't believe I actually rambled so long on this topic...

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7 days ago

We are very much different people. 

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I still can't believe I got her posting, I've been seeing her log in and do nothing but randomly duel a few people for ages now so this is slightly surreal.

BBJ, stop moping around. You should have more confidence in your booty and also review some terrible stories and tell children they're retarded, that always cheers me up.

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I'm only here for my boyfriend who's usually always offline or sleeping. So I'm lonely and everyone else hates me. 

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I'm sure that's an overstatement. Look at all the people you've befriended here!

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Fuck, mizal even said she'd save you while everyone else was burning to death.

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Oh Zag, how can you be so endlessly sweet and adorable? I thought this site was for anti-social, basement-dwelling World Of Warcraft web haters with tunnel carpal syndrome. What are you doing here? Get outta here!

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Haha, that's the most encouraging thing anyone has told me here. Thank you! I came for the stories, but stayed for the people. 

E: I now realize I should probably answer your initial question. It's a bit hard at times, but I strive to love others in spite of their faults. <3

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7 days ago
True that.

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Well if it makes you feel any better Judy, you hate America and are pretty cool with gay/trans rights which means you're obviously left leaning, which in turn means you are one more example of proving that fucktard Steve wrong about the site being right wing and keeping me in the vast lead of WINNING.

You have my thanks. yes

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I'm actually not sure what even makes a person left or right leaning in Steve's eyes tbh if supporting gay/trans rights and wanting to keep abortion legal still makes a person a retard rightwing conservative. I guess going full atheist and hating America is a requirement and there's just no middle ground there.

....not the first time it's crossed my mind but it's kinda weird how well he'd fit in at COG politically while also having no chance of being himself for five minutes over there without getting one of those fun 200 year bans. Weird/tragic, whatever. Our Stevie was born in the body of an over aggressive dick when what was needed to be was a passive aggressive cunt. :(

And Judy for real, you should pick one or two people on this site to intensely dislike, and then spend all your time wanting them to die instead of yourself. This is good therapy AND motivation to participate in things.

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I don't really give a shit what Steve's faggot requirements are, he's from Ireland so his opinion is shit anyway.

I'm using my own superior American requirements of what makes someone a degenerate leftist and as it turns out most CYS member fit the bill and most of them are even proud of it.

And for all of Steve's bitching at me, he's actually enjoying the whole fact that I'm actually responding back to him so the whole thread is a big pissing contest anyway since we're never going to agree on who here is a degenerate liberal or a retarded conservative.

Everyone here might as well be pieces on a chess board for the pair of us. (And I'm still fucking WINNING)

And same time, next week at the villain lair we'll probably both be making fun of Malk's shit obsession and forgotten all about this.

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Is it possible that this is all an elaborate distraction to keep you from finishing Rogues? His stories aren't being written in quite such quantity anymore and in the meantime he's terrified people will suddenly be reminded of what quality is.

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Shooting fish in a barrel. This whole exercise was a setup, but I'm quite sure End knew that. I've never seen any writing site, organization, or group that even thought about leaning to the right politically. That doesn't mean there aren't some individuals who do, but as a whole, nearly all creative arts groups lean left politically.

In fact this win was so easy, End, I'm not sure it counts...well except for the insanity spewed by Steve as a result...

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I heard somewhere that these kinds of communities attract pedos too.

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I laughed really hard at the reasoning "Nobody needs a gun because I've lived my whole life and not needed one to survive." Also "people get guns to shoot up schools and kill themselves and that means everyone who owns a gun is gonna shoot people." Earth to the extreme left: guns aren't just for war and killing people.

Everybody would fucking die without a gun to protect themselves in rural areas. People like to walk around in the woods - guess what they need if they're surrounded by snakes? Do people think bows are gonna come in style again for hunting food?

Suck it up toddlers. It's a tough planet to live on and people need firearms.

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Meanwhile, I've never had any reason or desire to use a bus so I feel public transportation is retarded and probably dangerous. Large vehicles full of people possibly not even using seatbelts are definitely dangerous anyway and should be abolished. People die this way. :[

Only school children and prisoners should be transported by bus. Jews by train. I just can't see any other reason why anyone else would ever have a legitimate reason to need or want to use one. But tbf thinking can be pretty hard.

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Your plan to kill a snake is with a gun?

Good luck with that.

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...I've always killed large rattle snakes with a gun. Usually take a .22 and blow it's head off.

You may not be aware but a bullet is small and most snakes that warrant killing are large. It's most common to kill them with a gun from a distance instead of with a hoe or axe where they are within striking range.

Though I guess a baby in a crib wouldn't know much about a snake in a yard.

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Tbf I may have confused people with my gallery of murder.

PSA, kids: don't kill a snake with a garden implement unless there's no other option. Their striking range is longer than the length of their bodies.

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Does a katana work?

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Only if you have blood grooves so the vacuum doesn't trap your sword.

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The only time I don't use a gun is when they're on concrete, and even then the first thing I do is attempt to get them to move out on the grass.

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Since we're having the general firearms discussion down here, someone brought up using firearms ranges, which I've only seen on TV. It seems weird to me to pay money and go inside a building to shoot a gun. Or at least like it wouldn't be much fun.

I fucking hate my Wi-Fi situation but I've never really thought about how nice and appealing to my laziness it is to know all I would have to do is step outside and prop up a bag of charcoal somewhere if I wanted to.

Living in walking distance of a creek is also really convenient, but you definitely do need a gun to go hang out there whether you're intending to use it or not.


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It's for gun people who live in cities and can't shoot that much. Or for people who can't afford to buy certain rare/high power weaponry, but the range can rent stuff out. In general it's just for dick-measuring with "Official" targets and practice for people who think the guy robbing them is going to stand 30 feet away.

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Yeah that's what I figured, I realize a lot of people are packed in not even in reasonable driving distance of a city limit. It's just weird for me, here the only times I've ever gone out to deliberately do target practice it's been at barbecues, and more an extremely casual social activity, like on the level of playing horseshoes.

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Ooh, a questionnaire? For knowledge? Seems like a fun distra-

"After a recent disagreement with some homophobic little crybaby bitch over the general position of the site," 

Aaaaand, I'm out.

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7 days ago

And we have yet another little bitch.

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6 days ago

Something like that. 

It's cool you want to know the site's demographics. Not so cool you'd do it so you can just prove to someone they're a little bitch. 

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Or more accurately, I said it as a joke and to fuck with End, and am actually curious as to your answers yet for some reason you take it seriously, like a little bitch.

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Oooh, nice one. 

Any-who, I'll give it a whirl in a new reply outside this conversation.

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Well that's disappointing.

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Don't be a pussy. Anyway that was pretty much just the standard way Steve says hello. Are you new or something?

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Eh, relatively. But I've lurked long enough on the site to know that you can't call someone childish (legitimately, I know Steve's in it for the trolls) without everyone else calling you a pussy or a Choice of Games lefty. 

Fair analogy, just wish people on here didn't throw it out so consistently...

Better go write a story about murdering puppies for that contest to redeem myself... or something like that. Maybe set it in a basement. Didn't Steve write Achilles in Chases' basement or something? 

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1. Politics: Do you consider yourself Left, Left-Leaning, Centrist, Right-Leaning or Right wing? Please elaborate.
I am more of a right-leaning conservative however, I am not totally right-wing, I am conservative as I supported Trump but I don't agree with everything he says or thinks about different people, but I also am conservative with my money unlike those who are left-leaning democrats.
2. Abortion: Do you believe abortion should be completely legal, sometimes allowed or banned? Please elaborate.
I believe that abortion should be banned, I believe that when you decide to have sex with another person and the girl becomes pregnant, that she should go all the way through with it, otherwise, she will never learn from the foolishness of allowing a guy to penetrate her in such a way, and will also not learn that even condoms don't always work and birth control isn't the hero of all consentual sex, and if it'srape, it's no reason to allow a baby to die, just give it up for adoption.
3. Religion: Please state your religion of raising and your religiousness on a factor of 0-5, 0 being non-believing and 5 being willing to pilot a Boeing 757 for your God.
My religion is Latter-day Saint/Mormon and my religion scale number is probably 4 as I could never pilot a 747 for my god even if I really wanted to.
4. Queer: State your opinion on homosexuality. Please note if you are currently in the closet.
I am not a homo-sexual, and my opinion is that I respect homosexuals as humans, but I do not agree with the choices they have made to become homosexual.
5. Tranvestites: State your opinion on Transgenderism. Please note whether you'd have sex with Caitlyn Jenner at the end.
I believe that there are different people in the world, and because of this, some may have deformaties such as not having a specific gender at birth, and if a person doesn't have an assigned gender at birth, they should choose what they feel most comfortable with, and yes, I would, if I was married to her and she enjoys blind people.
6. Bullshit: Please insert your own bullshit question here about sporks or pudding or whatever the fuck you want to keep interested in this thing. If you have any respect for yourself, feel free to leave Question 7. blank.
I would like to ask about what this spork/pudding war was about, and about what eventually happened.
7. Wetbacks: Do you want the government to work harder to enforce anti-immigration laws, do nothing because you don't give a shit or open more pathways to citizenship and all that shit? Please note despite the question's title it applies to all you blessed non-American people.
I believe that there should be tougher immigration laws, but not specifically to a certain type of people or a country where people reside, I believe that if there are going to be tougher immigration laws, that they should apply to the countries surrounding that region which is being focused on, and not on one specific country.
8. Trump: Please state your opinion of Donald J. Trump from 1-10, 1 being 'He is Satan!', 10 being 'I am Donald Trump and I think I'm doing a pretty good job."
I would give Trump perhaps a 7 or 8, because he is moving fast, he may be behind on cabinet positions, but he did take more action than Obama when it came to foreign relations.
9. Islam: What is your opinion os the religion of Islam? Please note, if you are Muslim, feel free to do the same thing you did with Question 7. here.
I think that Islam is not evil, and that many of my friends who are Islamic are really nice, and since we believe in some of the same things (No smoking, no drinking), that we really get along and know what we should and should not do even if we don't believe in the same god.
10. Star Wars: List the Star Wars films from worst to best. If you have not seen them all, please write "I have failed" as your answer to this question.
I will list them in Numerical order: 4, 1, 2, 3, 5, 6.

11. Nations: Please list the best five nations in order from best to fifth best.
Japan, China, South Korea, Germany, United States.
12. The Death Penalty: Do you support the Death Penalty? If so, please state what crimes you think would deserve such a sentence.
I support the death penalty, and believe that crimes such as First Degree murder should be grounds for the death penalty especially if there is more than one count of murder even if the person is successfully able to deem himself/herself mentally insane.
13. Guns: Do you support the right to bear arms? If so, please state your opinion on assault rifles, registration, background checks and the accuracy in a cop firing upward in the air while yelling after he fails to get his guy.
I believe that guns are good for the world, in fact, I am blind and I was taught by a Navy Seal how to fire a gun correctly as a Boy Scout activity, in saying this, I believe that people such as sex-offenders, and people who are deemed "Mentally retarded." should not have guns and registration should be based on Heavy background checks.
14. Euthanasia: Do you support Euthanasia?
I do not support this practice.

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6 days ago

Hm... while you're clearly a piece of shit, you're helping show End why he's a piece of shit. Anyhow, you failed and left out two star wars films, no compmenets for you, also, you're a piece of shit.

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I don't think he expected any compmenets anyways.

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6 days ago

I love how Steve's getting more triggered as this thread goes on.

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Pffh, triggered is some buzzword used instead of arguments in order to give the speaker some visage of rationality.

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I already made my points and you've chosen to stick to delusional thought, so buzzwords are about all you're good for at this point.

Be happy I'm even responding. You know you wouldn't get this sort of abuse from Zag or anyone else. (Okay, Mizal. But she's lazy)

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Whatever you say.

Pffh, you only respond because you have some delusion of grandeur and thus feel the need to confront evidence of your failure, unlike others who just cower at evidence they're wrong and hide.

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Why don't we all just smoke a blunt & chill

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Oh look, a faggot!

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Fuck off, Steve.

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Oh looky, they travel in pairs! Or more likely, alone.

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Is that supposed to be an insult bro?

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Yes

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It's not an insult when I actually am indeed a faggot, lil hedgehog. 

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Still an insult, just an accurate one, and its accuracy it why I used it.

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Interesting. 

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10/10 original insult steve yes

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I wanna fight him. Or anybody really. 

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Is originality what you're looking for? If the insult fits, use it.

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Good idea. 

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1. Fuck, I dunno. Left-Leaning, I guess? I mean, I'm all for people doing their own thing, but I'm not actively fighting for rights like an SJW. I don't give a fuck if you wanna marry the same sex or some shit.

2. If you don't want a baby, then get an abortion, I don't give a fuck. But if you decided to wait until the last minute and the fetus is in 3rd, it'd just be better to give it up for adoption as opposed to killing it. I mean, it's basically a baby at that point.

3. Christianity, and a bit of Mormonism. 0. But not, like, going to lengths to say God isn't real. I just don't give a fuck.

4. As I said in #1, go ahead, I don't give a fuck.

5. I will admit that it's a bit strange to want to emulate the opposite gender, but I don't really give a fuck. No, they'll always be Bruce to me.

6. Pass.

7. I guess you wanted me to skip this one, but fuck it, we're doing it live. I don't give a fuck about immigrants, but if we're gonna build a wall, I won't complain.

8. 5. I don't give a fuck. I liked the Apprentice, I guess.

9. Don't give a fuck.

10. The only really good one was 3. R1 was the worst, except for the Darth Vader part at the end.

11. ... Uh... Australia is good, Canada's pretty good, Britain's pretty okay, America's also okay, and I guess Ireland is less shit than other places (and because I can't think of another english speaking country). Everywhere else, I don't really give a fuck.

12. Yeah, I guess. I don't really give a fuck about it, but I guess it'll be more justice. Also, should totally just do Firing squads. Costs a lot less money.

13. Well, I mean, I have one. I don't give a fuck about registration or assault rifles and that shit. Maybe background checks so that gangs and mentally unfit people do not get guns.

14. Sure. If you wanna kill yourself because life is pain, go ahead, I don't give a fuck.

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6 days ago
You really just don't care.

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6 days ago
I'm getting a very subtle sense that Tim may not have any fucks to give.

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I think he does, but he doesn't know how to share. He's one of those people that keeps their fucks to themselves.

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Gee, well aren't you a fuck-miser.

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He's not left wing or right wing, he's fuck wing.

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No passes allowed, Tim. So no complement for you, fucktard.

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I mean, You shouldn't have given me the option to make my own question. My brain has the processing power of a GameBoy color.

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So basically Steve has been asking for entries and then just insults everyone, I just realized what this thread reminds me of:

http://chooseyourstory.com/forums/creative-corner/message/21517

I'm sincerely flattered by the imitation.

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Of course, End. Of course.

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He's sincerely flattered by your avatar, too.

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I've been researching and asking questions, something completely different. The insults are just something I naturally do.

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1. Left-wing leaning. Mostly because I support open borders for refugees/ legal immigrants and gay marriage. 

2. Abortion legal in certain cases, like rape for instance. However, in a legitimate union, the father should have a say. I don't think the father's opinion should be completely disregarded in any stage of his child's growth and development, be it during the child's teens, early years, infancy, or conception. Also, having it be regulated promotes couples to engage in self sex. 

3. I guess a 3? Believing in God is secondary to religion in todays day and age (I wouldn't blame you for saying you don't think a man is flying around above the clouds). More important aspect of religion is the way it helps us learn to behave in the world (love thy neighbour, respect your mother and father, treat others as you wish to be treated, ect.) and the sense of morality it imparts. And before someone says it, no, you shouldn't stone gays. Religious practices should be actively updated for the modern era.

4. What do they say about bygones? Not homosexual.

5. As above, although I do believe people should first try to accept themselves as they are before resorting to such drastic and permanent means. I'm not interested in them. 

6. Are public surveys as accurateas confidental ones? Glad you asked. No, they're not.

7. How about, instead of blanks, we use a real bullet this time?

7. As someone who's family was almost entirely immigrants (OPA BRATE) I would like to see the world's wealthier governments open up more pathways to citizenship and provide asylum for refugees. (Better to give them a proper residence than letting them do whatever).

8. 6 I guess. I'm pretty neutral on him and don't really feel like I'm informed enough to have a worthwhile opinion as a non-USA citizen, but he DOES make me laugh and he DID get elected by the majority, in the end. Oh Trump, you rascall!

9. Islam's cool, I have islamic friends, but I do think that Islamophobia is justified to an extent. I mean, when you can't even draw a picture of a certain religious icon in your own home without worry of getting murdered by extremists (iirc France?), you got to wonder whether a fear like that is really unjustified. Again thought, many Islamic people I've met are very nice, and it's a fault of the religion itself. It's in need of a serious update.

10. I have failed to watch the 7th movie. But that is ok beacuse the Clone Wars Animated Series is the best regardless. 

11. Australia (lovely fauna m8), Switzerland (drug consumption rooms), Japan (hentai+robots), Germany (engineers, also, watches, also, knights),Yugoslavia (free student appartments, too bad bout the super war).

12. Yes, repeat offenders of capital crimes (murder, rape, ect). However, I do believe that rehabilitation throught intigration through society should be attempted first and find that prisons aren't anywhere near effective enough for that. But I didn't study law, so disregard this opinion as uneducated. 

13. No, outside of specific individuals (hunters, cops, ect) and even then extensively regulated. Unlike drugs, in which I'm in favour of legalising entirely, the main victim of guns is not the shooter. 

14. Haven't actually read up on it enough to formulate a solid stance on it. Guess I got some homework. :) Preliminary Answer: No

Best part is that I've already been criticised, so lackluster answers yield no immediate consenquence! Hurray!

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Hang on, if abortion should be legal in certain cases, are you saying in non-rape cases where both parents agree they want to abort it should or shouldn't be legal?

Anyhow, this'll do, if only because I couldn't find your fuck-ups in answering it. You're not getting a good one, though.

Well Aducan, your first post of the year was in response to this, so it's clear I'm valuable to how you spend your time, well done on that. And your opinions don't seem like the worst dog shit I've read in this thread.

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Danke. 

Good point showing that discrepancy. I guess I'd rather it were only in cases like rape, where the woman doesn't agree to the conception, and that it shouldn't be allowed otherwise. But I WILL settle for it being available all the time but only if both parents agree. I just wanted to stress the father's importance, and did it poorly.

Also, didn't even notice it's the first post. Huzzah 2017!

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Just a reminder to Steve to remember to eat something. I know he gets really wrapped up in this sort thing.

Anyway, still more lefties on the site than righties which was the original disagreement in the first place. So you already lost that war no matter how many Christians you’re wacking over the head at this point. Far be it from me to deprive you of your giggles though.

In other news, this thread is currently on its way to surpassing this one (533 posts) started two years ago.

http://chooseyourstory.com/forums/the-lounge/message/15931

Interestingly, it was started during the same month and nearly the same day (17th rather than the 16th).

Glad to see we’ve come a long way since then. yes

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Indeed. And instead, as a thread creator we have an asshole hedgehog and not a polite owl.

We've truly come a long way.

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ITT: 50% original thread, 50% zag showing us that religion is morally outdated by a thousand+ years

inb4 people edit the bible as time goes on so it's fine...to which the reply would be "which means it isn't the word of god anymore if some dude decided to put [for example] internet as a sin in the bible"

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To each their own.

Well, if they happened to edit it that would be very unfortunate.

"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophesy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophesy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll." (Revelation 22:18-19)

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This was when Christianity was secret business. That line in Revelations was so that any Romans who got ahold of it would take it as a literal prophecy and dismiss it as madness that they didn't believe in. It's pretty obvious that he's talking in lingually garbled poetry in an attempt to make the message unreadable to those that would persecute Christianity if he literally said something as brash as, say, comparing Caesar to the devil or some monster for killing Jesus and pretending to be a divine figure, or painting Rome as a city of decadent fuckers, vowing that there'll be a big battle/rebellion where they're struck down. Hell, if you take what he's saying figuratively, he pretty much calls the Fall of Rome. So of course he doesn't want the Romans who might try to intercept him finding his literal message and getting an excuse to totally massacre him the people he's writing to.

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1. Politics: Me and politics don't mix well, but I suppose I'm a tad more left wing. I agree with a lot of liberal ideas, and I take such approaches to issues. However, I'm also conservative in the idea that being too liberal is way to chaotic and different, and I don't like that much change. :/ I mean tbh, the rest of this questionnaire should show you what I mean. >_>

2. Abortion: Legality of abortion should be circumstantial. Rape victims should be allowed to rid themselves of a kid. If a birth was accidental, abortion should also be allowed if the kid would only have one parent (usually the mother)—ex: if the father refuses to help bring up the child, then the mother should have the right to rid herself of the kid. Though... ethically, the kid needs to be gotten rid of before it develops into an actual baby with functioning thoughts and all that.

3. Religion: I was actually raised to accept Christianity but not really be a Christian. What I mean by that is that I had always been encouraged to say nice things about God and all that and believe in heaven and hell and not saying His name in vain. You know. That stuff. However, I am not affiliated with any religion, but I suppose I'd rate my "religiousness" as a 1 because I have my own spiritual ideology.

4. Queer: I don't care whether you're straight or not. It makes no difference to me. Some of my closest friends irl and online are of such. They don't act differently in general (the ones I've encountered irl and online are 80 times better actually), so why treat them differently? Meh.

5. Tranvestites: Again, I don't care. See #4 for explanation.

6. Bullshit: wohenxihuanninhefjordyinweininmenhenswasgy

7. Wetbacks: Government should work harder to enforce anti-immigration laws because they're laws. And they're supposed to enforce them well. Illegal immigration is just that—illegal.

8. Trump: 6. I agree with some of his ideas, but not all, and we know why it's only a 6. >->

9. Islam: If it doesn't interfere with non-Islamic-religious people or whatever, whatever. People can say what they want, but imo religion is just mythology anyway.

10. Star Wars: I have failed at watching these films and stuff.

11. Nations: Japan, Hong Kong (I don't consider it as really "Chinese"), Singapore (I consider it a country), Australia, France.

12. The Death Penalty: I do support the death penalty for crimes like murder, rape, mass destruction, misleading others into doing self-harming things, etc.

13. Guns: I honestly don't care about guns. Assault rifles—what's the point of an assault weapon in civilian hands anyway? Registration—Need those. Background checks—Need these too. Accuracy in a cop firing upward in the air while yelling after he fails to get his guy—Wtf is the cop's problem. Save the ammo for actually doing something important.

14. Euthanasia: I do support Euthanasia. Why wouldn't you? It's painless for the most part, right? Besides, if someone wants to use it for suicide, it's their choice. Would you rather have them use other means that could be more painful? If someone is given the death penalty, wouldn't this be the more merciful way to send them off?

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Uh, you're one of those "spiritual" people who realized religion is bull but is still scared of dying. Oh, and you believe Abortion should be circumstantial. So you either believe parents shouldn't be allowed kill a bunch of cells that's not important, or believe parents should sometimes be allowed murder babies. Interesting.

Well... you're pretty unattractive, I mean, your face just stretches out like a doll's mask being stretched out of proportion and just makes you look inhuamn, like a fucked up doll.

Shit hang on, I'm doing complements. Uh... retarded?

No, give me some time.

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I'm scared of dying, but that's not something I'm too afraid of. I'm more afraid of pain. T-T

>-> I've seen better days. And photos.

(Am I really retarded? :<) And it took you like 2-3 minutes to say I'm not that racist? ^(^0^)^

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Uh... you're not as much of a racist piece of shit as I thought. That's a complement.

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1. Politics: Centrist

2. Abortion: banned banned banned banned once heartbeats can be heard

3. Religion: Deist, I believe in Luck, though there are to many coincidences in this Universe for there to be that much luck. My definition of God is pretty broad anyway. - 5.9  Always knew my ass kissing for god would give me a pilots license.

4. Queer: Let it be. 

5. Tranvestites: Same as 4#

6. Bullshit:  dnes sedun

7. Wetbacks:People always find a way, especially when it comes to a better livelihood. Same situation as drugs and the now gone American Prohibition. Not saying to give everyone amnesty and see what exciting things happen in the given 24 hours, just that more restrictions cause more crime.

8. Trump: 4, I just give it four years.

9. Islam: Love Islam.

10. Star Wars: Prequel, Rogue one, Force Awakens, return of the Jedi, empire strikes back

11. Nations: France, England, Greenland, Canada, Spain

12. The Death Penalty: Only support it if it comes to the other person committing a murder, anything else is just a longer sentence.

13. Guns: My family owns more guns than I'm comfortable sharing but firing them out in the desert here in Arizona is a hell of a time. I whole-heartily support our right to bear arms. Actually in favor of more lax laws.

14. Euthanasia: If it's by request of the patient then let them take account of their own life.

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Is that 5.9? That's not allowed on the scale.

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...Fuck it, I'll resign from my "lurker" status.

1. Politics: Honestly, I don't really agree with-- and this will sound incredibly stupid-- the mindset of either the Left or Right, although the Right is just a tad more entertaining. I suppose, if I was forced to choose, I would describe myself as Left-Leaning- though I'd never say it out loud.

2. To me, the main issue with abortion as a moral quandary is how blurred it is. If a women was raped, and is now pregnant, does she have the right to kill her child? What if she was just too careless to use the proper protection? Is the aforementioned child even a child, technically speaking? So, despite how illogical it might be, I'd only want to allow abortion under the proper circumstances-- although, I'm not sure as to how those would be decided.

3. Eugh-- I'm currently being raised in a "proper god-fearing household" (or, a Christian one), and am aiming to leave as soon as I graduate. I would currently say that I'm an agnostic, and would greatly enjoy answering with a 0. However, a person's upbringing is, generally, a rather large part of their life, and I really doubt that my bout of religion will just magically disappear one day. So, a 1 out of 5 would be more accurate.

4. I don't think that there's anything wrong with being LGBwhatever, or straight. As long as you're not harming anyone, I see no issue.

5. See the above answer-- and I'd really rather not have sex with Caitlyn Jenner, thank you.

6. haha i hate myself x

7.  I really don't give a shit. Then again, I'm a Canadian, and our country seems to be a bit more lax with the whole immigration thing... Yay?

8. Oh, he's absolutely fucking hilarious-- I mean, he's insane, yes, but he's hilarious. Really, the entire election just seemed like a reality t.v show from this angle. Nonetheless, it's not unlikely that he's Satan's estranged second-cousin or something- so, a 3 out of 10 for the Trumpster.

9. So long as the majority isn't made up of the likes of ISIS-- something that is clearly the case-- I don't see any real problem. The entire thing with Islam seems rather blown out of proportion, despite any issues the religion may have.

10. "I have failed"

11. North Korea, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and, finally, the United States of America.

12. Unless someone has committed Hitler-tier crimes, I see no reason to sentence them to the electric chair. Just give them life-sentence in maximum security, or something.

13. Dear god, I know next-to-nothing about guns. Just do a proper background check before selling them, and I can't see there being too many problems. People shouldn't be toting them around the local Walmart, though-- just allow them to be used as a last resort for protection.

14. I personally believe that Euthanasia should be allowed-- depending on who's on the receiving end, and their consent. Nonetheless, if someone's suffering from a bit of a cold (or, to be more precise, if they've still got other options, aside from living miserably), they should be restricted from going through the process. But, if not... It's the humane thing to do.

I just realized how much I tend to sit on the fence when it comes to controversial topics. Oh well.

oh god this was a mistake please don't hurt me

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Well you either want to prevent women from killing irrelevant cells for someone reason or allow the the occasional killing of babies.

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Babies? I was referring to unborn children. Actual babies shouldn't be killed, obviously. As for the cells being relevant, that's a whole other debate on it's own.

All that I meant to say was that abortion isn't exactly a black and white topic. Perhaps that wasn't entirely clear.

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Well either you believe its a child, or its not a child. If it's not a child, let anyone kill them. If they are, no one. 

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Even if it's not a child, you're still killing the potential that that clump of cells might have. You'll never get to know what it might become. It's not par with killing an actual human, certainly-- but it's fairly close.

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I also kill the potential whenever I use a condom.

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That's... lovely, but not relevant. You hypothetically having the ability to procreate isn't important-- but you not being cautious and using that ability to create some cells that could become a child, if not removed, is.

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My dick in a woman, if not removed, will also create some cells that could become a child. Potential doesn't mean shit.

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Potential is a nebulous, ridiculous concept. Could he cure cancer? Yes. He could also be literally Hitler. What's the point of potential?

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It's really more of an emotional thing then anything else. If I were to ever need to have an abortion, I know that I would end up somewhat regretting it-- romanticizing the idea of having a child, and wondering about what that child may have become.

You're certainly right in saying that there's no point in potential, in this context. It's certainly not logical to think otherwise. However, when talking about my own morals (the point of this thread), logic isn't really seen as the most important thing. Personal feelings override it, in my case.

Which is stupid, I know. I'll just admit defeat now.

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You're new so there's few traits I can complement on.

You answered the questionnaire fairly well, and answered my questionnaire instead of Sent's, so clearly you're OK.

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Well, at least it's not an insult.

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Steve, just compliment his profile. If you can find a single good thing about it.

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It's a copypasta, don't bother.

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This is an interesting topic, so I will answer.

1. Politics: Do you consider yourself Left, Left-Leaning, Centrist, Right-Leaning or Right wing? Please elaborate.

I would consider myself Left-Leaning, human equality is where it's at.

2. Abortion: Do you believe abortion should be completely legal, sometimes allowed or banned? Please elaborate.

I think abortion should be completely legal, although some human beings use it as birth control, and should be banned after a certain amount of time during the pregnancy. You shouldn't control somebody else's body or their choices.

3. Religion: Please state your religion of raising and your religiousness on a factor of 0-5, 0 being non-believing and 5 being willing to pilot a Boeing 757 for your God.

0. There isn't a god. But that doesn't mean I think religion is a bad thing. I mean, if everyone didn't believe that they were going to hell then there would probably be a lot more violent and heinous crime.

4. Queer: State your opinion on homosexuality. Please note if you are currently in the closet.

I am all for people doing what they want, homosexuals should be left alone. I can't believe people are still trying to crucify people for liking the opposite sex. I'm straight, but I might experiment later in life, they like it for a reason? That is, if I don't have a wife, can't score bitches, etc. I'm not opposed to it.

5. Tranvestites: State your opinion on Transgenderism. Please note whether you'd have sex with Caitlyn Jenner at the end.

Not against transvestites, I don't entirely understand but it's their choice to do whatever they please. No, I wouldn't have sex with Caitlyn Jenner, they aren't attractive at all.

6. Bullshit: Please insert your own bullshit question here about sporks or pudding or whatever the fuck you want to keep interested in this thing. If you have any respect for yourself, feel free to leave Question 7. blank.

7. Wetbacks: Do you want the government to work harder to enforce anti-immigration laws, do nothing because you don't give a shit or open more pathways to citizenship and all that shit? Please note despite the question's title it applies to all you blessed non-American people.

I think we should open up more opportunities for immigrants to enter this country legally. Or just take over Mexico and say fuck it.

8. Trump: Please state your opinion of Donald J. Trump from 1-10, 1 being 'He is Satan!', 10 being 'I am Donald Trump and I think I'm doing a pretty good job."

I think he's an idiot, bigot, and all of that other nasty shit. He doesn't know what he's doing, and I don't understand why he's elected. So, 1.

9. Islam: What is your opinion os the religion of Islam? Please note, if you are Muslim, feel free to do the same thing you did with Question 7. here.

I think that it's a religion and people should be allowed to worship whoever, no matter how dangerous the religion is. At the same time, it frightens me to know that some of these people just want to extinguish life for the sake of their 'Allah'. I mean, come on!

10. Star Wars: List the Star Wars films from worst to best. If you have not seen them all, please write "I have failed" as your answer to this question.

I have failed.

11. Nations: Please list the best five nations in order from best to fifth best.

Uh... weird question... anywhere with freedom similar to America? I mean, it's not like I pay attention to much of other countries...

12. The Death Penalty: Do you support the Death Penalty? If so, please state what crimes you think would deserve such a sentence.

Yeah, I support the death penalty, but only if the acts are heinous enough, only if they're over a certain age, (21 would seem legit) and it should be done quicker than 10 or 20 years down the road.

13. Guns: Do you support the right to bear arms? If so, please state your opinion on assault rifles, registration, background checks and the accuracy in a cop firing upward in the air while yelling after he fails to get his guy.

Guns are cool, I guess. But assault rifles shouldn't be allowed in civilian's possession. I mean, seriously, what the hell do you need that for? Fun? Shooting range? Hunting?! It's ridiculous. All of that can be had with sidearms or rifles.

14. Euthanasia: Do you support Euthanasia?

Yeah, I support that. But only after the patient has undergone therapy or some sort of treatment to help. I know this doesn't always work, and whatnot, and I'm kind of stuck here, honestly.

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I don't think you're even in the closet, you're just someone who hasn't gotten around to sucking a few dicks. Anyhow, complement, complement...

I suppose we share political leanings in a lot of ways, so good for you.

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1) Fiscal Conservative - Don't waste money on unnecessary rubbish. Dictating morals or how people live for any reason other than saving taxpayers undo burden is a waste of time and energy.

2) Legal. If parents don't want a kid that bad, what kind of life can it look forward to? Enough kids are stuck on a wait list for adoption or placed in foster homes as it stands.

3) Christian - Lutheran - 2 or so. Not a fan of organized religion due to the rampant corruption associated with it. But it's probably healthy to believe in something greater than oneself.

4) Shouldn't be a social issue unless they're rutting on your lawn or something.

5) Should be treated like a mental disease as it is deemed by the medical community, not glorified like the media seems to want to do currently. Diseases are meant to be cured, not proliferated.

6) Should I buy @Endmaster a bottle of this for Halloween?"

7) We have enough people. Only let in people that can fill important roles that the country needs more of, essentially engineers, educated professionals, etc. The country doesn't need more general laborers, plenty homegrown and hungry for work.

8) Trump's about a 5. He's not nearly as good as his supporters rave. And he's not near the demon his detractors rage about. Also, anyone who blocks traffic in protest deserves to be kicked in the shins for 3 hours straight by a toddler. Some people are trying to get to work and don't have all day to shout at the sky.

9) The bad practitioners are basically a cult, giving a horrible name for the peaceful ones. You don't see the leaders of ISIS blowing themselves up. They have brainwashed peons for that.

10) Star Wars VI - Star Wars V - Star Wars IV ; And I pretend the rest didn't happen.

11) Roman Empire, Old British Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Alba - Veni, vidi, vici.

12) Thieves, Rapers, People that lie about getting raped, Murderers, Traitors, Arsonists, Protesters that block traffic.

13) Yes. Background checks and psych screenings are good. The armed American citizen was a large deterrent for the Soviet Union during the Cold War from invading. Not fun marching into a country where anyone and everyone can take potshots at your soldiers.

14) Yes. If it's good enough for your dog, it's good enough for you.

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What do you consider to be "wasteful spending"?

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Unsurprisingly, Bucky's a right wing piece of shit. Anyhow, not acknowledging the prequels, VI and Rogue one discounts you from your complement.

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You should at least answer my question.

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Oh I don't answer your questions. It's a power play. I have you guys ask a question that I don't answer to make it known who the King is. It's me, by the way.

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I figured we were supposed to pretend you asked a question that you didn't actually ask. We're supposed to make an answer sheet, not a question sheet. People who actually ask questions are clearly erroneous chungusses who shouldn't get any compliments.

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It is a mental disorder. Fortunately, the psychiatric community knows best to treat it. 

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1. Politics: Do you consider yourself Left, Left-Leaning, Centrist, Right-Leaning or Right wing? Please elaborate.

I am a radical leftist, specifically a communist of the Marxist-Leninist principle. However, I do have sympathy for anarcho-communism and anarchist movements, and I have been studying Marxist-Leninist-Maoism lately. Essentially, I believe in the philosophy of dialectical materialism, a Dictatorship of the Proletariat operating as a government which would: suppress / oppress the bourgeoisie class, abolish private property, seize and democratically operate the means of labor, and have free education, healthcare, and housing for all citizens.

In U.S. politics, liberals in my eyes are spineless hypocrites although they are not one hundred percent wrong about stuff. Before my radicalization I was a liberal. I disagree with conservatives when it comes to just about everything of their beliefs.
 

2. Abortion: Do you believe abortion should be completely legal, sometimes allowed or banned? Please elaborate.

Abortion should be completely legal. A fetus is not a human. It is the women’s choice to do what she wants with her body.
 

3. Religion: Please state your religion of raising and your religiousness on a factor of 0-5, 0 being non-believing and 5 being willing to pilot a Boeing 757 for your God.

I was raised a Sunni Muslim and always have been. My religiousness would be a 5 I suppose, because if necessary, I would pilot a Boeing 757 for my God. However, I am not entirely practicing nor that strict about adhering to my religion’s rules (which I find wrong).
 

4. Queer: State your opinion on homosexuality. Please note if you are currently in the closet.
 

I have no problems with homosexuals nor with homosexual rights. I support the plight of the homosexual people in their pursuit of equal rights. I am straight and thus not in the closet.
 

5. Tranvestites: State your opinion on Transgenderism. Please note whether you'd have sex with Caitlyn Jenner at the end.

I have no problems with transgender individuals nor with transgender rights. I support the plight of the transgender people in their pursuit of equal rights. I would not have sex with Caitlyn Jenner.
 

6. Bullshit: Please insert your own bullshit question here about sporks or pudding or whatever the fuck you want to keep interested in this thing. If you have any respect for yourself, feel free to leave Question 7. blank.
 

7. Wetbacks: Do you want the government to work harder to enforce anti-immigration laws, do nothing because you don't give a shit or open more pathways to citizenship and all that shit? Please note despite the question's title it applies to all you blessed non-American people.

Borders, much like race or class are simply another means by which the bourgeoisie pit workers against each other. I don’t have a problem with immigration and I don’t see the immigration problem conservatives in the U.S. are talking about. To me, it just seems like thinly veiled xenophobia and racism.
 

8. Trump: Please state your opinion of Donald J. Trump from 1-10, 1 being 'He is Satan!', 10 being 'I am Donald Trump and I think I'm doing a pretty good job."

1, just like every other American president besides perhaps Abraham Lincoln.


9. Islam: What is your opinion on the religion of Islam? Please note, if you are Muslim, feel free to do the same thing you did with Question 7. here.

I am a Muslim. The religion of Islam is the one true religion of the world, and it preaches justice and truth. The Prophet Muhammad was the greatest human to walk our world in every aspect and is a role model for anyone. (I hope I didn’t trigger you too hard Steve ;) ) 
 

10. Star Wars: List the Star Wars films from worst to best. If you have not seen them all, please write "I have failed" as your answer to this question.

The prequels in no particular order, Return of the Jedi, A New Hope, The Force Awakens, Rogue One, Empire Strikes Back
 

11. Nations: Please list the best five nations in order from best to fifth best.

Ottoman Caliphate, Abbasid Caliphate, Rashidun Caliphate, Republic of Cuba, United Soviet Socialist Republics.
 

12. The Death Penalty: Do you support the Death Penalty? If so, please state what crimes you think would deserve such a sentence.

Yes, I do for: Crimes against humanity and generally every crime today that is punishable by death. Also, mass exploitation of the working class (ie, being a member of the bourgeoisie).
 

13. Guns: Do you support the right to bear arms? If so, please state your opinion on assault rifles, registration, background checks and the accuracy in a cop firing upward in the air while yelling after he fails to get his guy.

I support the right to bear arms. I think we should have stricter registration / background checks, but I don’t think we should be banning individual weapons. For instance, assault rifles like AK47s are banned for some reason in my home state. And I disagree with this.
 

14. Euthanasia: Do you support Euthanasia?

Sure why not.
 

*Please note, failing to complete the questionnaire to the satisfaction of Steve will result in endless insults as I criticize your pathetic non-answers.

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First of all, filthy communist scum. You are worse than sea sludge. 

Second of all, what's with the Soviet Union worship? Most communists consider it to be bad even by their standards. 

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The Soviet Union (mainly under the leadership of Lenin and Stalin) was a socialist state adhering to the principles of Marxist-Leninism. Thus, I support it. I don't worship it.

Also I implore you to ask other communists what they think of the USSR.

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You're Russian or something?

 

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Not at all, I'm Pakistani.

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So you believe in a sort of communistic rule, seeing that you believe in a government which would crush the bourgeoisie class?

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I have, I've browsed some leftist subreddits and most of the leftist population does not like the Soviet Union, except for tankies. 

The Soviet Union was a dictatorship that was- not democratic, had no free speech or press, was imperialistic, and caused millions of deaths. 

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Agreed.

Such leaders would often manipulate even the most minor of things just to be power abusing dicks.

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I loled. Thanks for this, it was an excellent way to start the morning.

And I mean, we were all thinking it.

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STALIN?

Oh, you're a braindead tankie. Got it.

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A socialist leader who upholded Marxist-Leninism and crushed a fascist state??? LE GASP???

Believing in the principles of Marxist-Leninsm != Being a tankie.

I am not a tankie, I can understand Stalin and the USSR in general had faults but I am not going to defend or ignore the majority of said faults (because some "faults" of the USSR can be defended.)

However, Stalin, like Mao or Castro, was a socialist leader. And I am a socialist. Thus, like Mao or Castro (who had faults of their own, of course, just like any other leader in history) I will generally support him.

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I think terming the killing of millions of people as a mere "fault" is an understatement. 

 

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How abysmal must a person be to cling onto an ideology to the degree that they'll generally support mass murderers because they shared the same 'ideology', which news flash, you didn't unless your ideology has no clauses against murder. How much of a pompous prick do you even need to be to say the greatest mass murderer in human history "had faults of their own like any other leader." Fuck you for downplaying that, you tremendous shithead. 

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Stalin's policies of collectivization were not completely successful because they were in some aspects responsible for massive famines wherein a great many of people died. (It should be noted however, where or not these famines were purposefully engineered, is debated.) Stalin's paranoia and failure of certain policies, such as collectivization, which led to many people dying, were faults of him, just like many other characteristics and policies of Stalin. It is important to recognize these faults and understand them as faults.

It should be understood however that Stalin led a for the most part successful socialist nation. Therefore, Marxist-Leninists support Stalin as an important socialist leader, but can understand his faults.

When pioneering the transitory period between the last and next stages of human society, it is important to build off of previous pioneers and understand what went wrong and what went right in their pioneership. It is also important to recognize the fact that, they themselves were pioneers, no matter how unsuccessful they were.

It is also important to understand that Stalin was not alone or abnormal in the mass death toll during his leadership. Every capitalist leader in history is a mass murderer, for instance, though not every leader's death toll during leadership may come close to Stalin's (which is what makes Stalin abnormal).

I hope this pleases you.

 

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40 million dead and you want to classify that as a successful nation, No, eat shit, he's far from fucking normal. He's killed more people than any other leader besides your other Communist choice, Mao. You can bitch about how Capitalism kills, but it seems every time the Communists try build a country it ends up jack shit. You've already admitted to supporting Stalin because he was socialist, which already tells me enough with the fact you push aside 40'000'000 dead in favor of your ideology. These are not pioneers, these are dictators that as always with your shitty system fall to corruption and kill shit tons of people.

I don't give a shit that your parents were too crap to teach you to be smart, make your own choices and build your own values, because it happens all the time. Unfortunately I have to start giving a shit because you weren't born in a shitty 'Muirca! family or a liberal one where you could cling to those communal values, you were unfortunate enough to be born into a Muslim one, where no doubt Westernization has shown you just how shitty that is so you have to balance that ideology with another one you latch ont, one that's led to the two biggest mass murderers in human history, Unfortunately your parents weren't bright enough to let you read Animal Farm, but maybe give it a read instead of misunderstanding Marx again. 

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I don't know if Stalin himself was personally responsible for the killing of 40 million people. And I also don't know if Stalin was a dictator. And I don't want to disagree or agree with you because I haven't studied Soviet history thoroughly yet.

But what's relevant is that Stalin did lead a Dictatorship of the Proletariat. The Soviet Union under Stalin was socialist. Stalin was a pioneer for communism, thus.

>You can bitch about how Capitalism kills, but it seems every time the Communists try build a country it ends up jack shit.

And you can bitch about how "every time the Communists try build a country it end up jack shit", I guess? Oh and nice brushing aside the death toll of capitalist leaders, you tremendous piece of shit. It's nice how people blame Marxism for Holodomor, but not capitalism for King Leopold II's atrocities in the Congo, or capitalism for the Holocaust, or capitalism for the genocide of Native Americans and Africans, or capitalism for poor people dying in the streets in contemporary society.

You're right in that my treatment as a Muslim person in the U.S. led me to communist, but it wasn't entirely just that. I don't know how I'm misunderstanding Marx. Are you saying Marx wouldn't have supported Stalin as a socialist leader, or something else?

 

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He was to both. Maybe do a bit more research into the example of your ideology failing before subscribing to it.

See, I don't support King Leopold, or Hitler, because even though we agree on capitalism to a degree, I'm not a fanatic without intelligence who subscribes to anyone who shares part of an ideology with me. What you're showing here is that occassionally, bad shit goes on with Capitalism. Yeah, it does. But it seems it's far fucking worse with Communism, seeing as there's no shining Communist places, it's all good capitalist ones. The Holocaust happened because of Fascism and dictatorship, not capitalism. This can be told by looking at all the times things didn't go belly up in other capitalist nations. It seems after the test of time, the communist nations are the shit ones, and the capitalist ones thrive.

Well I've already seen you misunderstand Marx by saying he wasn't calling for the abolition of religion, so yeah, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

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>Maybe do a bit more research into the example of your ideology failing before subscribing to it.

Of course, but research into the history of a country can't occur in one day. It's a slow process. And I've only begun my study of communism recently.

>What you're showing here is that occassionally, bad shit goes on with Capitalism. 

Bad shit in an inherent part of capitalism. Exploitation, oppression, and imperialism in an inherent part of capitalism. By agreeing with capitalism, you indirectly agree with King Leopold.

>no shining Communist places

Communism is a utopian society which has never occurred yet. What you're meaning to say is socialism.

>The Holocaust happened because of Fascism and dictatorship, not capitalism

Fascism is simply capitalism in decay. Had Rosa Luxemburg won in 1918, the Holocaust would have never occurred.

>This can be told by looking at all the times things didn't go belly up in other capitalist nations. It seems after the test of time, the communist nations are the shit ones, and the capitalist ones thrive.

As I said earlier, pioneering an entirely new society is a monumental task. Just by taking a glance at things, it seems like revisionism and counter-revolutionary forces are what drove most socialist states downwards. We see this in China, Russia, Vietnam, and every country that has had a communist rebellion.

Due due to class antagonisms, capitalism will not survive the test of time. Capitalism has only thrived thus far because it was better than feudalism.

Also, what about Cuba? Besides the political repression, it's a decent socialist state.

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>Of course, but research into the history of a country can't occur in one day. It's a slow process. And I've only begun my study of communism recently.

Then you still have time to get out. 

>Bad shit in an inherent part of capitalism. Exploitation, oppression, and imperialism in an inherent part of capitalism. By agreeing with capitalism, you indirectly agree with King Leopold.

By that argument I could say murder, and oppression is an inherent part of communism and that by agreeing with communism you agree with Stalin and his purges and the Khmer Rouge. 

>Communism is a utopian society which has never occurred yet. What you're meaning to say is socialism.

And it will never occur successfully. 

>Fascism is simply capitalism in decay. Had Rosa Luxemburg won in 1918, the Holocaust would have never occurred.

Fascism is entirely different from capitalism, and you seem to be confusing the two. Fascism is the one based on imperialism and oppression, not capitalism. 

And if France annexed the whole of Germany after WW1 the Holocaust would have never occurred. What's your point?

>As I said earlier, pioneering an entirely new society is a monumental task. Just by taking a glance at things, it seems like revisionism and counter-revolutionary forces are what drove most socialist states downwards. We see this in China, Russia, Vietnam, and every country that has had a communist rebellion.

If pioneering an entirely new society results in millions of deaths every time, maybe don't do it? "Revisionism" occurred because people realized that the current system was oppressive and kept them in poverty. 

>Due due to class antagonisms, capitalism will not survive the test of time. Capitalism has only thrived thus far because it was better than feudalism.

I didn't know becoming communism made you a fortune teller. 

>Also, what about Cuba? Besides the political repression, it's a decent socialist state.

Imagine you have a cabbage field filled with decayed ones, and you live next door to your neighbor, who's cabbage fields are well-worked and ripe. This is the equivalent of rooting through all your rotted cabbages, picking out one that is less decayed than the rest, and declaring it to be better than any of your neighbor's cabbages.  

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Of course but research into the history of a country can't occur in one day.

Then don't talk about that shit like you know it. Don't try defend the actions of the man without knowing a clue about it.

Bad shit in an inherent part of capitalism. Exploitation, oppression, and imperialism in an inherent part of capitalism. By agreeing with capitalism, you indirectly agree with King Leopold.

No, I'm not. I believe in Capitalism with restrictions and government controls. I believe the only one who said he supports oppression here is you.

Communism is a utopian society which has never occurred yet. What you're meaning to say is socialism.

No I sure as shit don't. I like socilaism. I don't like Communism. The fact that you confuse the two show's how little you know about this. Communism isn't the utopian society, it's the ideology of which we've had many examples of its failure and none of its success.

Fascism is simply capitalism in decay. Had Rosa Luxemburg won in 1918, the Holocaust would have never occurred.

No, probably not the Holocaust, just the much better Stalinist purges. You bitch about Fascism, but most capitalism societies avoid it, and I don't support it. However, all Communist societies have so far been failures overall in one way or another. 

Pioneering an entirely new society is a monumental task.

If we keep sending pioneers and they keep dying, we stop the attempt at colonization. We've had several big attempts at this, and they all failed miserably.

Due to class antagonism, capitalism will not survive the test of time.

Communism hasn't. Capitalism outlived it. So so far, it's the best we have.

Also, what about Cuba? Besides the political repression...

Don't confuse Socialism and Communism, dipshit. It's insultingly stupid if I'm being generous and blatantly dishonest if not. Oh and yes, besides the political dissent that comes from Communism. Is political dissent something you're really pushing aside? The best example you have and you need to ignore censorship, oppression and torture. Well done, good country.

Look, you have no fucking idea what you're on about. You can't even tell the difference between Socialism or Capiatlism, showing another blatant example of your misunderstanding of Marx. I don't give a shit if you need an ideology to cling to, just cling to a better one.

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>Then don't talk about that shit like you know it. Don't try defend the actions of the man without knowing a clue about it.

I'm not defending him though. All I've said so far was that he had faults but he was still a socialist leader.

>I believe in Capitalism with restrictions and government controls.

The idea of ethical capitalism is a myth. Even if you don't like imperialism and want 'government controls' (?) there will still be a bourgeois class that exploits a proletariat class. Private property will still be a concept. Basic human necessities like housing, education, and healthcare will require money. And the bourgeoisie will still be engaged in imperialism, as we see with Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, and so on.

>No I sure as shit don't.

Communism is a stateless, moneyless, classless society wherein the means of production are democratically owned by the proletariat (in other words, private property is abolished). Socialism is a broader term wherein the means of production are owned by either the proletariat, collectively, or the state, and a specific case of socialism, the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, is the transitory period between capitalism and communism.

Therefore, of course, communism has never been achieved. Whereas socialism has been.

You simply must be confusing the two because otherwise you wouldn't be making any sense.

>You bitch about Fascism, but most capitalism societies avoid it, and I don't support it. 

That's great, but fascism occurs when the contradictions of capitalism become too great and society can go either socialist or fascist, hence the term 'capitalism in decay'. So capitalism is responsible for the rise of fascism. 

>However, all Communist societies have so far been failures overall in one way or another. 

No communist society has ever existed in the history of all humanity.. There have been successful socialist ones, like we see in Maoist China, Lenin-Stalin USSR, and Cuba today. Famines do not render a socialist state a failure -- what makes it a failure is its collapse, like we see in the USSR and Maoist China.

>Communism hasn't. Capitalism outlived it. So so far, it's the best we have.

Communism has never existed. Capitalism is the best we have had, when compared to previous societies like feudalism. However, due to class antagonisms, capitalism is absolutely not permanent. Class antagonisms cause a society to become unstable, and sooner or later, a proletarian revolution will occur, just as a revolution occurred in fedualist society giving us capitalism.

Communism solves this problem because when everybody is equal and nobody is oppressed through class warfare, the society is stable. The oppressed class will not revolt a create a new society, because there are no oppressed class.

>Don't confuse Socialism and Communism, dipshit. It's insultingly stupid if I'm being generous and blatantly dishonest if not.

>Look, you have no fucking idea what you're on about. You can't even tell the difference between Socialism or Capiatlism, showing another blatant example of your misunderstanding of Marx. I don't give a shit if you need an ideology to cling to, just cling to a better one.

I feel like you're trolling me, but you're way too dedicated. So I'm going to ask you to clarify what exactly you mean by all of this nonsense.

@jep49 since I feel as though you're genuine this response applies to you as well. And:

>This is the equivalent of rooting through all your rotted cabbages, picking out one that is less decayed than the rest, and declaring it to be better than any of your neighbor's cabbages.  

A way to make this metaphor more applying would be to say that there is an epidemic of diseased cabbage in my community. I am trying to raise non-diseased cabbage, but due to my neighbor (who raises diseased cabbage) purposefully contracting my cabbage with the disease and some of the cabbages in my garden decided to be diseased on their own, most of my cabbages end up becoming diseased. However as it turns out, one of my cabbages is non infected.

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I'm not defending him though. All I've said so far was that he had faults but he was still a socialist leader.

Then don't support leaders you know nothing/very little about.

The idea of ethical capitalism is a myth. Even if you don't like imperialism and want 'government controls' (?) there will still be a bourgeois class that exploits a proletariat class. Private property will still be a concept. Basic human necessities like housing, education, and healthcare will require money. And the bourgeoisie will still be engaged in imperialism, as we see with Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, and so on.

No it's quite frankly not. We can see it working in the Nordic countries quite well, and I'll say that seems like the best we're getting. And actually, education and healthcare are free there. They're many capitalist countries not engaging in Imperialism.

Therefore, of course, communism has never been achieved. Whereas socialism has been.

It seems strange how quick you are to say that the USSR, Maoist China and all the other shitstacks aren't Communist. You don't seem to understand what Communism is. Communism is not a type of society. It is an ideology. It might want the ideal Communist state, but so far, we've seen when you pursue Communism, you end up with a shitty country. If you want to talk about this 'ideal' Communism, that, quite frankly, is a myth and it's not going to happen. It's been tried to be achieved many times before and never worked.

Communism has never existed. Capitalism is the best we have had, when compared to previous societies like feudalism. However, due to class antagonisms, capitalism is absolutely not permanent. Class antagonisms cause a society to become unstable, and sooner or later, a proletarian revolution will occur, just as a revolution occurred in fedualist society giving us capitalism.

Countries have pursued Communism, they've pursued Capitalism, the Communism one doesn't work. If the pioneers you send aren't even making it, maybe give up on the journey. If you're going to say this system that had never once been successful and always seem to collapse is the more stable one to the one that most of the world holds, you're going to need evidence. Communism is not stable in any way, because people don't like being equal, they like to strive for more, to be greater. It's our natural instinct. With a capitalist society with mobility and welfare, they have that, and there's no one in such shitty circumstances that they all try fuck the country with Communism. Until you have evidence, it seems the Communist nations fall, the Capitalist ones survive.

I feel like you're trolling me, but you're way too dedicated. So I'm going to ask you to clarify what exactly you mean by all of this nonsense.

Are you trying to argue that Socialism and Communism are the same thing? You've said they're not, so I don't see how me pointing out how you use Socialist as the only label for a country failing to achieve your unachievable Communist utopia. You've already shown your misunderstanding of Marx and the fact that you're trying to defend an ideology you don't understand is childish at best.

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Brilliant sleight work, you cheeky piece of shit.

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That's not a response, commie scum.

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Haven't you ever seen an AnCap meme before? Feudalism IS capitalism.

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I'm actually curious, how do you combine radical Marxism-Leninism with religion? Cause, you know, opiate of the masses and all that.

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Because I don't see anything in Islam that is incompatible with everything I have read thus far in communism. If anything, Muhammad himself was a revolutionary against oppression ( which was occurring at the hands of the Quraysh people, who he led military action against). Islam does not prevent me from being anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist and anti-exploitation(ist). If anything, it encourages me to fight against all oppression and exploitation.

In any case, Marx in this quote isn't necessarily saying "religion is evil and should be purged". He simply offers his observation of religion: in that it helps "dull the pain" of capitalism, much like opiates dull physical pain.

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Yeah man, let me fuck my kid wives and kill the faggots I see! Don't take my rights to do it, oppression. Anyhow, no, you simply don't understand Marx, you dimwit. Strange, I might have to take back that comment of you reading his book. If you read slightly down the opium quote, you get this "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness."

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I'm just not going to respond to your first sentence.

Karl Marx didn't write just one book, he wrote multiple texts. Many of which I haven't read yet, like the one in which he makes his opiate quote. So I thank you for catching my neck, so to speak.

I'd like to quote "The Attitude of the Workers’ Party to Religion", a short piece by Lenin:

Marxism is materialism. As such, it is as relentlessly hostile to religion as was the materialism of the eighteenth-century Encyclopaedists or the materialism of Feuerbach. This is beyond doubt. But the dialectical materialism of Marx and Engels goes further than the Encyclopaedists and Feuerbach, for it applies the materialist philosophy to the domain of history, to the domain of the social sciences. We must combat religion—that is the ABC of all materialism, and consequently of Marxism. But Marxism is not a materialism which has stopped at the ABC. Marxism goes further. It says: We must know how to combat religion, and in order to do so we must explain the source of faith and religion among the masses in a materialist way. The combating of religion cannot be confined to abstract ideological preaching, and it must not be reduced to such preaching. It must be linked up with the concrete practice of the class movement, which aims at eliminating the social roots of religion.

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This is one of those current objections to Marxism which testify to a complete misunderstanding of Marxian dialectics. The contradiction which perplexes these objectors is a real contradiction in real life, i. e., a dialectical contradiction, and not a verbal or invented one. To draw a hard-and-fast line between the theoretical propaganda of atheism, i. e., the destruction of religious beliefs among certain sections of the proletariat, and the success, the progress and the conditions of the class struggle of these sections, is to reason undialectically, to transform a shifting and relative boundary into an absolute boundary; it is forcibly to disconnect what is indissolubly connected in real life. Let us take an example. The proletariat in a particular region and in a particular industry is divided, let us assume, into an advanced section of fairly class-conscious Social-Democrats, who are of course atheists, and rather backward workers who are still connected with the countryside and with the peasantry, and who believe in God, go to church, or are even under the direct influence of the local priest—who, let us suppose, is organising a Christian labour union. Let us assume furthermore that the economic struggle in this locality has resulted in a strike. It is the duty of a Marxist to place the success of the strike movement above everything else, vigorously to counteract the division of the workers in this struggle into atheists and Christians, vigorously to oppose any such division. Atheist propaganda in such circumstances may be both unnecessary and harmful—not from the philistine fear of scaring away the backward sections, of losing a seat in the elections, and so on, but out of consideration for the real progress of the class struggle, which in the conditions of modern capitalist society will convert Christian workers to Social-Democracy and to atheism a hundred times better than bald atheist propaganda. To preach atheism at such a moment and in such circumstances would only be playing into the hands of the priest and the priests, who desire nothing better than that the division of the workers according to their participation in the strike movement should be replaced by their division according to their belief in God. An anarchist who preached war against God at all costs would in effect be helping the priests and the bourgeoisie (as the anarchists always do help the bourgeoisie in practice). A Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could. A Marxist must be able to view the concrete situation as a whole, he must always be able to find the boundary between anarchism and opportunism (this boundary is relative, shifting and changeable, but it exists). And he must not succumb either to the abstract, verbal, but in reality empty “revolutionism’˜ of the anarchist, or to the philistinism and opportunism of the petty bourgeois or liberal intellectual, who boggles at the struggle against religion, forgets that this is his duty, reconciles himself to belief in God, and is guided not by the interests of the class struggle but by the petty and mean consideration of offending nobody, repelling nobody and scaring nobody—by the sage rule: “live and let live”, etc., etc.

It is from this angle that all side issues bearing on the attitude of Social-Democrats to religion should be dealt with. For example, the question is often brought up whether a priest can be a member of the Social-Democratic Party or not, and this question is usually answered in an unqualified affirmative, the experience of the European Social-Democratic parties being cited as evidence. But this experience was the result, not only of the application of the Marxist doctrine to the workers’ movement, but also of the special historical conditions in Western Europe which are absent in Russia (we will say more about these conditions later), so that an unqualified affirmative answer in this case is incorrect. It cannot be asserted once and for all that priests cannot be members of the Social-Democratic Party; but neither can the reverse rule be laid down. If a priest comes to us to take part in our common political work and conscientiously performs Party duties, without opposing the programme of the Party, he may be allowed to join the ranks of the Social-Democrats; for the contradiction between the spirit and principles of our programme and the religious convictions of the priest would in such circumstances be something that concerned him alone, his own private contradiction; and a political organisation cannot put its members through an examination to see if there is no contradiction between their views and the Party programme. But, of course, such a case might be a rare exception even in Western Europe, while in Russia it is altogether improbable. And if, for example, a priest joined the Social-Democratic Party and made it his chief and almost sole work actively to propagate religious views in the Party, it would unquestionably have to expel him from its ranks. We must not only admit workers who preserve their belief in God into the Social-Democratic Party, but must deliberately set out to recruit them; we are absolutely opposed to giving the slightest offence to their religious convictions, but we recruit them in order to educate them in the spirit of our programme, and not in order to permit an active struggle against it. We allow freedom of opinion within the Party, but to certain limits, determined by freedom of grouping; we are not obliged to go hand in hand with active preachers of views that are repudiated by the majority of the Party.

Another example. Should members of the Social-Democratic Party be censured all alike under all circumstances for declaring “socialism is my religion”, and for advocating views in keeping with this declaration? No! The deviation from Marxism (and consequently from socialism) is here indisputable; but the significance of the deviation, its relative importance, so to speak, may vary with circumstances. It is one thing when an agitator or a person addressing the workers speaks in this way in order to make himself better understood, as an introduction to his subject, in order to present his views more vividly in terms to which the backward masses are most accustomed. It is another thing when a writer begins to preach “god-building”, or god-building socialism (in the spirit, for example, of our Lunacharsky and Co.). While in the first case censure would be mere carping, or even inappropriate restriction of the freedom of the agitator, of his freedom in choosing “pedagogical” methods, in the second case party censure is necessary and essential. For some the statement “socialism is a religion” is a form of transition from religion to socialism; for others, it is a form of transition from socialism to religion.

So maybe with the withering of capitalism under a socialist government I will lose my religion as Lenin writes here. Or maybe I won't. In any case, my religion does act as an opiate and I don't see it interfering with my Marxist learning, besides the philosophy of material dialectics, which I have a rudimentary understanding of.

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Yeah, I thought you wouldn't want to. Best shove that part of the Holy Book in the back.

What a long piece by someone I don't care about. I never mentioned Lenin, don't know why you're wasting my time with that. What I was pointing out was that you don't understand Marx and were being wrong when you said that quote. You say you've never even read the bit about opiates, yet you were happy to say your opinion on what he "actually" meant, which makes it clear as shit you don't have a clue what's going on with this ideology.

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>Yeah, I thought you wouldn't want to. Best shove that part of the Holy Book in the back.

Well it's more along the fact that I don't like to engage in lies.

>What a long piece by someone I don't care about. I never mentioned Lenin, don't know why you're wasting my time with that.

Because Lenin is as important to Marxism, specifically Marxist-Leninism as Marx himself was.

>What I was pointing out was that you don't understand Marx and were being wrong when you said that quote. You say you've never even read the bit about opiates, yet you were happy to say your opinion on what he "actually" meant, which makes it clear as shit you don't have a clue what's going on with this ideology.

It's more that I haven't read all his works and that I haven't completely studied Marxism yet than me not understanding what he's saying. I don't see how I'm wrong on what he "actually" meant, in the broader frame of reference of Marxist-Leninism.

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Oh look, someone read Das Kapital and is willing to die for his God while being a religious hypocrite. Fucking hell, I had to checK to make sure you were one of Malk's Communist alts. Muslim fucking communists, Go live in the USSR or the shithole Muslim caliphates.

You didn't order star wars, you get nothing.

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What's funny is I don't disagree with anything you said, besides the sentiment of living in the USSR (I wouldn't like to live in the USSR).

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Being self-aware about being a piece of shit doesn't make you less of a piece of shit, it just makes you aware that you're a piece of shit.

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I'm a little late, but whatever.

 

  1. I've always thought of myself as left until a year or two ago. My politics seems to lean more right than I initially thought.
  2. I'm pro-life. I believe that life begins at conception and that it would be wrong to end a life before its had it's chance to start. That being said, I wouldn't stop anyone from getting an abortion. It's an individual right and I can't dictate what you do with your body in this case. I'll think you're scum, but I wouldn't make it illegal.
  3. Raised Christian. Right now I'm somewhere between 1 and 2. Satanist.
  4. I have no opinion of homosexuals or homosexuality.
  5. Last time I posted something about this, someone immediately took it down. Let me be as PC as possible: it's a load of crap. You are what you were born as, plain and simple. Nothing you do or say will change what you are biologically.
  6. Is it wrong to eat a burger with a fork and knife? I don't want to get my hands dirty.
  7. I'm not sure if this question is only for wetbacks, but I'll answer it anyway. I want the government to work on anti ILLEGAL immigration.
  8. 7. So far, so good.
  9. I have a very low opinion of Islam, mainly because it seems that the majority of it's practitioners take it too seriously. At least most Christians are watered down. Anyone that thinks that Islam is a peaceful religion needs to define what they mean by "peace", because based on what we're seeing, it's nothing close to peaceful.
  10. From worst to best: Episode VII ( an absolutely terrible reskin of Episode IV), Episode II (it's just not that good), Episode IV (it was kind of boring), Episode I (the Darth Jar Jar is its saving grace), Episode V (just a great film), Episode III (I enjoyed the music and its fight scenes), Episode VI (loved it).
  11. From best to worst: United States (single greatest country ever), United Kingdom (Brexit), Germany (because money), Russia (because Putin), China (because Trump).
  12. Yes, yes I do. I'd much rather put people to work instead of killing them. But if I have to pick, I'd choose rapist and murderers. Slow and painful.
  13. Yes. Assault rifles? They make up a minority of all shootings across the United States, banning them would do almost nothing. Registration and background checks? Sure. Cop's accuracy? Pretty good.
  14. If that's what the person wants, sure.

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6 - yes unless your hands are clearly very very dirty and you can't wash them for some reason and you don't have a napkin or some other thing to wrap the burger in to hold onto it. Basically as an absolute last resort, you may, eat a burger with a knife and fork - you will still get weird looks deservingly.

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Unless your hands are covered in literal shit, you eat it with your hands.

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Huh, a Satanist who actually believes in God. What a fucking cock-sucker. Anyhow, you think Trump's doing a job, you're cool with assault rifles, you thought Episode III was better than Episode V, you think Brexit was good, you think America's te best country, it seems quite clear you're a troll paid to be here by End.

You refused to give an opinion of whether you think homosexuals, which is firstly a clear attempt to hide your homosexuality and homophobia, so no complement for you, you dog shit cockroach. Not answering the question is worth jack shit, go fuck yourself, no real person is this stupid, fuck you, End.

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I don't believe in God and I just think about homosexuals.

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Then, you're a 0, and I thought so.

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Fuck you.

 

*I don't think about homosexuals.

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Dude, don't go back in the closet. You came out, and that's OK. I think about homosexuals too. Now that it's put out there you can just stop hiding and let the wave of acceptance wash over you like the tides of change.

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Steve x Danana ship pls

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Satan doesn't approve.

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Sssh, he can't read your thoughts of homosexuals, those are all yours.

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But I'm not a homosexual.

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Given how you just fucked yourself with that post, I'm not so sure that's true. Lol.

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I'm on my mobile device and I text with Swype. This wouldn't be the first typo I've made because of it.

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Sure man, typo, just like you were only giving that dude the kiss of life, but sucking the snake bite venom out of his cock.

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I don't understand.

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Expected.

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I'm not sure if wanting to fuck Steve is supporting your case.

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Freudian slip.

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This entire thread has been worth it just for Danaos' quote.

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Well, at this point I've found enough evidence to quite solidly say I'm better than every last one of you. Seriously, I didn't even expect this to happen, I thought maybe one or two of you would at least be my equals. Congratulations to those of you who posted, all of you who didn't are filthy cowards undeserving of life who won't stand for anything, especially Stryker. A few of you managed to shine out as worthy of life in my eventually clone-dominated future society, such as IAP, Mayana and Will. I feel this test worked like that Bill Burr bit, where he tells everyone the test is under their seat and if they didn't bring a pencil they've already failed. Anyhow now, I will reward you with the correct answers.

1. Left, as many of you realized.

2. Yeah, kill the little cunts.

3. 0. Any answer other than 0 is wrong and you should go home.

4. Obviously, homosexuality is terrific. Bisexuality is better, though.

5. Whatever, and yes.

6. Please note it says if you have respect for yourself leave Question SEVEN blank.

7.

8. 2

9. Kill them all, teach the kids better.

10. I, II, VII, III, VI, IV, IV/ R1

11. Ireland, Netherlands, Finland, Canada, Sweden.

12. Sure, take it on a case by case basis, put a gun to their head, make them dig their graves, give them a drink and a fag, shoot.

13. No

14. Yes

*Please note any additional questionaires filled out will not receive a complement, but might receive insults.

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I could give a rat's ass if you insult me, I just want to answer some questions.

1. I consider my self in the middle with all of this right and left bullshit as I tend to agree with both sides, but I tend to lean to the right more often than the left.

2. I don't agree with abortion, but some people just aren't competent enough to parent a child and I would rather not have a child end up with a shitty life with a shitty family, but if someone would give the kid up for adoption that would be a more viable solution in my opinion.

3. I believe in various ideas from different religions, because I would rather not be dedicated to one god. I go off and on from believing in a god to not believing in any as I can't make up my mind on this shit.

4. I am not a homosexual, I am straight in fact. I have no problem with homosexuality, I could give a shit if you fuck someone the same gender as you.

5. I do not agree with trans-genderism as you are born either a male or a female not anything else or the opposite.

6.  You give me a question, I try to answer that question, except for 7 I have respect for myself

7. 

8. 5 I don't follow trump, I follow his ideas which I can agree with most. I agree with some of his ideas, I disagree with some of his ideas.

9. I dislike Islam, it does not agree with my ideals so I do not like Islam

10. II, I, VII, III, VI, V,  R1

11. USA, Netherlands, Canada, Ireland, Sweden

12. I do support the death penalty, rapists and murderers should be killed, but I think that the one who sentences the person to death should do the deed. As Eddard Stark once said, "The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword."

13. I support the right to bear arms, I think an assault rifle should not be given out to any ordinary person and there should be an extra layer of testing or whatever to allow someone a rifle. Every person should become registered and have a thorough background check done on them if they are trying to acquire a gun. No cop should fire upward into the air 

14. Yes

 

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This dude doesn't believe in the many, many intersex people born with both genitals. Also, USA just does not fit with all those left wing nations, you cunt. Nothing else here of value to note here.

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That's what I like to see.

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Intersex people with both genitals? Whatever gets you rocking, man.

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Oh shit, you're twisting my damn words

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I don't think so, dude.

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Wow, this thread got huge. Let's try to wrap it up soon and end at 666 replies.

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Sounds good to me

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10/10

Would enable troll thread again.