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Horror Advice

4 years ago
What advice do you guys have for writing horror and what do you like to see in a horror story? Specifically the kind of hopeless, haunting horror rather than entrails, demons, and jumpscares, although advice for the latter is welcome as well.

In a story I am planning, I would like to create an atmosphere of increasing dread in which hope is offered the reader before being utterly crushed.

Horror Advice

4 years ago

Because horror ain't something I've looked at with enough depth, I'll actually try to keep this short.

I imagine it is mainly trying to build tension and release it in a proper way. A common thing which can potentially work is making the reader feel vulnerable or taking away control (for that sweet hopelessness shock). So I guess give the illusion of control before taking it away.

More generally tho, you just really want to have the readers engaged, since if they aren't engaged, you aren't gonna be terrorizing them. You want readers to get invested so that they actually care when things end up bad. Depending on what exactly you mean by haunting you will also want a well thought out idea, as you really want to convey the horror well which can be difficult for some ideas.

Since you don't seem to be leaning towards shock or body horror, you'll probably be going psychological, which can be really hard to pull off (I say), but just give your ideas some good thought and then reveal things without ruining the reading experience (such as by exposition dumping too much) and you should be golden.



But with all that said, I think of horror as something that falls under a special umbrella of writing, one where the thing that matters most is ultimately author intention and execution, and where general advice could even potentially be a hindrance depending on the circumstances. As such, keep an open mind and don't be afraid to do things a bit more... differently.

Best of luck too, I think good horror can be pretty amazing (which probably comes down mostly to the idea of really keeping readers engaged, but it might also just be new enough to me so who knows).

Horror Advice

4 years ago
Not even long enough to warrant a TL;DR. I am impressed. :D

That's a good idea with the taking away control part. I didn't really think of it in that sense before. So I think it will be easier to carry out if I think of it that way. Psychological horror would probably be a good descriptor, yes. I am not overly familiar with the different branches of horror.
I will keep an open mind, captain. One reason I don't intend to go reading a bunch of psychological or cosmic horror or whatever in the near future, since I have little experience with the genre, I might get too set in my way of thinking how it should be done.

Horror Advice

4 years ago
"So I guess give the illusion of control before taking it away." This is really key. A story that's obviously just a giant unrelenting downer desensitizes the reader or rolls over into the ridiculous long before the ending and makes it lose impact. Horror is a difficult genre, weirdly it's closer to comedy in that sooo much depends on keeping the reader engaged and what people find scary varies as much as what people find funny. Since you can't read the audience's mind, you have to rely a lot on your own intuition while also having all the other elements of the story hold up as worthwhile in their own right for the parts where your attempts at creating a specific emotional reaction fail. Horror, as well as tragedy (and your story seems to contain elements of both) often turn on a character flaw the character themself can't see until it's too late, if ever. Past sins or hubris or whatnot. The fact that it could've been easily averted just makes the whole thing worse. In a CYOA...that might present challenges, although I suppose it could be some past thing before the player got control.

Horror Advice

4 years ago
Thanks for the link.

The comparison to comedy makes sense and is pretty helpful. I wouldn't write a comedy story with the thought "I'm going to make this hilarious," but with the thought, "I'm going to write the best story I can, and hopefully it will make someone laugh."
The note about the character flaw is interesting to me.
Thanks

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4 years ago

Horror Advice

4 years ago

I think your approach to illustrating the setting is key to getting the atmosphere right. Dread and hopelessness is more easily conveyed in an apocalyptic wasteland than an urbane suburban neighbourhood, but both are perfectly valid. The reason being: it's all in the details.

McCarthy's 'The Road' is a great example:

"And on the far shore a creature that raised its dripping mouth from the rimstone pool and stared into the light with eyes dead white and sightless as the eggs of spiders. It swung its head low over the water as if to take the scent of what it could not see. Crouching there pale and naked and translucent, its alabaster bones cast up in shadow on the rocks behind it. Its bowels, its beating heart. The brain that pulsed in a dull glass bell. It swung its head from side to side and then gave out a low moan and turned and lurched away and loped soundlessly into the dark.

[...]

The boy turned in the blankets. Then he opened his eyes. Hi Papa, he said.

I'm right here.

I know."

You've probably noticed that the sentences are 'fragmentary', or tend to run-on. There's also a distinct disregard for punctuation when it comes to dialogue. The descriptions are repetitive - "it swung its head" - and this seems to jeopardise the writing by being distracting and monotonous. In most instances, this is indicative of trash writing. However, this book won the Pulitzer Prize in 2007, a year after it was published. It's been praised for being "trenchant and terrifying, written with stripped-down urgncy and fueled by the force of a universal nightmare. 'The Road would be pure misery if not for its stunning, savage beauty. [It] is an exquisitely bleak incantation - pure poetic brimstone" (The New York Times, 2006).

McCarthy does away with punctuation and grammatical conventions because it serves to push the image of a stark, bleak, unchanging and hopeless world. That micro attention to detail - sentence structure, word choice, rhythm - combined with his deliberately unorthodox writing style creates an atmosphere of monotony, subsistence and anarchy. It encourages us to forget about the arbitrary rules and focus on the 'big picture' - which is survival, staying dry and staying warm. Fitting for a story all about the breakdown of order. His book is, as a result, super depressing both in subject matter and atmosphere. I wouldn't recommended it for light reading, but if you're interested in post-apoc stuff.

The take away is, extra time should be spent on the micro to appropriately dress up the big ideas in your story. You don't need to go and break the rules as McCarthy has done. But, especially when it comes to horror, I think this will make or break it. All this isn't anything new, but there's a lot less leniency - having good ideas expressed ineffectually is particularly damning for this genre.

 

'Haunting horror', in terms of 'damn I can't sleep anymore' instead of 'eww that's pretty brutal', isn't restricted to psychological thrillers or Lovecraftian mind-blows. I think that's pretty obvious; a story about ghosts and demons can be just as harrowing as one about a stalker, when written with the purpose of targeting a specific fear (fear of unknown etc. etc.).

 

I like to see humour in my horror stories. Oh, and I like them scary.

Horror Advice

4 years ago
While I have a real admiration for well crafted imagery or sentences, there is such a thing as too much detail, and tbh I think that passage crosses the line. Like it's so in love with the words it trips over them and forgets the whole point is to clearly convey information to the reader and let them have their own emotional response. Instead this reads like it's trying too hard to force it. Makes me think of Lovecraft and the way the style is so distinctive and often imitated, but not actually scary, you know?

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4 years ago
Hmmm...
I actually have a set setting and general plot, which is why I narrowed the type of horror I meant in the best way I could, not being the most familiar with the sub-genres.

Based off that excerpt, I will be sticking with conventional English for the sake of my own sanity, but I will be noting to pay attention to small details like that.

Thanks

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4 years ago

If anyone ever finds a spelling mistake or grammatical error, point to this book and say lol gottem

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4 years ago
Gasping in horror and unpublishing to fix it seems a more appropriate and likely response

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4 years ago

I like ghosts! Spooky ghosts where the protagonist gradually discovers their extremely tragic and disturbing backstory... That is all. cheeky

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4 years ago
Noted. XD