Dracone, The Reader

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I always hate making profiles without anything to guide me on them >.> <.< ah well. I'm me. Talk to me and find out if you need to know more than that I guess.

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What Do You Think is the Best Form of Government? on 3/27/2014 11:49:15 PM

I don;t see a second question... the only thing I saw was about a corporation waging war.

As for that, no they would then lose literally all business, because it would destroy their rep and people would start defending themselves instead, or going to outside corporations that weren't in the neighborhood but could still offer a degree of protection. As has already ben stated, it would require this kind of mindset in the populace.So unless they destroy literally every member of the competition, and get a total monopoly across the entire nation, while simultaneously preventing new ones from arriving, I don;t see them being able to combat this.


What Do You Think is the Best Form of Government? on 3/27/2014 11:44:11 PM

I'm going to disagree with you on the latter. In an anarchy nation unification is the enemy not an ally.

But still, thank you that you think its well thought out enough for a story.


What Do You Think is the Best Form of Government? on 3/27/2014 11:42:56 PM

Never, and I mean, never has this type of government even been attempted. So therefore, no, history has not taught this lesson. Thats like being a chemist and attempting to create a chemical by mixing other chemicals, and because you've mixed a lot of chemicals together, under the exact same conditions, never changing the tempature or pressure for instance, saying that what you're trying to create is impossible.

What you just described is what happens if a society *collapses* not what happens if a society dismantles the government *voluntarily*. The differences being that in order for the latter to occur, changes have to take place on the societal level. 

Now, as for what would actually happen in this scenario, please see literally every other post I have made. As for the currency issue, there will admittedly be multiple currencies, never said there wouldn't. But they will already have a currency from the previous society, and thus have a standard to measure them against. In the age of information, how the hell will you simply change your identity? That can only be done if there is no communication, and there will be, via the security companies. Which by the way, are already popping up in certain parts of America where the police aren;t offering protection, so we can be relatively certain that under the prescribed conditions, they will continue to pop up. Slavery would only be an issue for the people without a security company, as otherwise your in the exact same boat as trying to enslave someone now, and identifying these people would be very difficult unless you had the cooperation of the security companies. Exile and death penalty being the only available punishments is complete bullshit since privatized prisons already exist. 

 

As for a corporation blackmailing or forcing someone to buy from them... exactly how is that different from a government in the first place? Thats a false argument thats like saying "I'm against x so we should have x so x doesn't happen" Not to mention that they would have to already basically run the nation in order for them to have enough power to do that to a significant portion of the populace.


So anyone see 300 on 3/27/2014 3:10:26 PM

I agree. Admittedly I saw it with my girlfriend so wasn't paying as much attention as I normally would have but it just kinda seemed like an expansion pack to the original, not really its own movie... And I couldn't really get into the thought of the Athenians as the uber badasses. I mean, they had their moments in history, but combat was not their strong suit. The battle was based on history but... it just didn;t feel like it did with the original. Plus it bugged the living hell out of me when someone said he fought like Poseidon... Poseidon had nothing to do with battle damnit! >.< I mean, I see where they were going with it since it was a sea battles, but it should've atleast been Athena since she was the goddess of strategy... (I can see why not Aries the god of war, since he was the patron of Sparta one of their biggest rivals but still!)


What Do You Think is the Best Form of Government? on 3/27/2014 3:03:49 PM

If anyone wants to, I would be more than happy to coauthor it to the best of my ability lol. I think it would make a good story too actually, I just suck at writing plot/dialog. 


What Do You Think is the Best Form of Government? on 3/26/2014 10:59:14 AM

.... thats the point of an anarchy, there would be no laws or judges.

There would be things which if you do your likely to face consequences for, but for economical reasons, not laws. Ie. if you break a contract, no one will go into business with you again.


What Do You Think is the Best Form of Government? on 3/26/2014 12:05:56 AM

Why thank you, Im glad you think so :) I actually would love to... only thing is, I suck at writing :$ I came here to read lol, I don;t really know how to write a story... maybe someday though :)


What Do You Think is the Best Form of Government? on 3/26/2014 12:04:19 AM

The entire point of my thing was that the citizens would shop somewhere else long before it got that large. Ie, if a company corners say a third of the market, they're likely to be pissing off the citizens some how, low worker wages, inefficiency, or just plain dickishness. Is it a one hundred percent guarantee? No. But likely. Not to mention that a citizenry that just tore down a government is going to be suspicious of it.

 

Also as for the national borders concept, theres nothing to stop a different group from starting their own security comapny there. And if the bigger one didn't like it theres not much they could do, I mean, they could shoot them down but they would likely lose a lot of customers doing so. Because now they turned themselves into a government/tyranny/corpoprate state, and as they already dismantled one government, they can do so again. This time by just not buying from them. 


What Do You Think is the Best Form of Government? on 3/25/2014 11:59:41 PM

except, as there would be no one in charge of anyone except the military, it wouldn't be a collection of city states.

 

It could theoretically become a stratocracy, and unfortunately, theres virtually no way to ensure that it won't. It would require a very, very charismatic leader to convince a populace who just tore down a government for anarchy to build a government based on the military, even if all he had to convince was the militiamen. But unfortunately, no system of defense can work and not have this risk.

 

I would like to point out that the same thing could happen in literally any government however.


What Do You Think is the Best Form of Government? on 3/25/2014 3:47:53 PM

Noithing is stopping them. If a group of people want to join a nation, they can. I don;t think that a large enough portion of the city will want to to make it a real possibility, but it could happen. Same with the militia. 

As for other nations recognizing it as a nation *shrugs* who cares? this nation isn't going to be able to do diplomacy as a whole to begin with, and if they try and invade they will quickly learn that that was a bad idea and withdraw.

 

As for the cooperation, I think I explained it, but maybe not clearly (half the time when I reply to these I'm falling asleep lol)

Ok the citites would cooperate via trade. They wouldn;t really have any official cooperation since there wouldn't be anything official to cooperate on, but they are likely to be trading with businesses in the other cities.

The militia. Well, one group of militiamen would choose a leader (think lieutenant) and he would go to a next door militia and talk to them about possibly cooperating in the case of future crisis. Presumably, before long, all the lieutenants are doing things similar (a military has to have a chain of command... its the only way it will work, so likely all the tiny militias will have elected a leader of sorts)
now the lieutenats from one area get together and elect one of them to be tentatively in charge like a captain, and he goes and talks to the other captains in nearby areas about joint cooperation. And then eventually they elect the next officer and repeat until what you wind up with is a military where youve got a chain of command directing over all strategy but a thousand tiny militias each capable of refusing commands and going their own way.