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This feature was rejected 6/27/2012: Automatically rejected as part of the FWW clean out.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago

I don't know the answer to this, but how hard would it be to have a program that looks through all the stories at the end of each day, and works out which are the top 5 in each category, according to their current rating, and lists them on the front page as the top games for that category. Stories on the list might change, as people continue to cast votes, but it would be an accurate representation of which games are (at that time) the high voted games.

I don't think going by simply how many times it has been played is all that relevant. After all, the same person can play a game over again, a dozen times, if they wanted, making that number go up. Even the author, looking at their own game, to check bugs people report, would make the number go up - so it is no solid representation of how many different people have played the game. Not to mention, the Times Completed number is often quite different. In fact, the Times Completed is a good number to go by, since it means someone not only played the game, but liked it enough to actually reach an ending.

However, Times Completed changes everytime a story gets unpublished, then republished. You'll note Ulysses currently has Times Completed: 10, User Ratings: 12. However, more people have completed the game than have voted for it. The number was reset to zero when I updated the story, and now is lower than the ratings instead of higher. So, that is not really a good number to go by either.

I know, not good publicity for myself using my own story as an example there, however it shows that the numbers change, and don't always match up. So, actual user ratings, and voted score are the most important things to measure by, in my opinion.

Rather than award people a 'featured game' perhaps each story should have a "Days Featured" score, which goes up by one at the end of any day that their story is put on the front page, due to having a high user rating score on that day. Then, perhaps the Top Game category would show the current "top five" stories according to their "Days Featured" score. In other words, the high rated stories that have been featured for the longest amount of time, would be the Top Games of the site.

Does this system make sense to people? Any suggestions?

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
Good idea. There's heaps of bad stories in the featured games, but lots of good ones that aren't featured. This'll be good.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago

Your a fantastic guy TSM but still quite newbiesh.  This site is the least robotic you will find.  Thats March's job.  Dont ever forget it.  You too october.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
TSP, DON'T listen to him (JJJ) . That is a good idea, but this becomes a rich-get-richer scenario. We should do LEAST played games, because there are a lot of games out there that are good, but unnoticed by everyone except the authors and the Top Raters.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
Or maybe both... Yes, both.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago

Dude.  Thats March's job.

He does featured games.  Its 1/3 his site and he'l do as he pleases.

I dont think TSMPAUL was trying to replace March, he just didn't know.  I suggest you learn.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
This makes some sense, but I think the flaw in it is that it's still all fundamentally based on user ratings, which it seems, are still a bit messed up, or easily can be, by people abusing the system. So, just as someone could rate their game an 8 like 50 times anonymously or someone else's a 1 50 times to mess up their stuff, they could then just do this and get the result that their game is suddenly featured and/or top 5 in category. I'd tend to reinforce my idea restricting voting without comments and restricting anonymous voting to one IP each (while users could obviously play/vote as much as they want).

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
Or restrict the top game choosing to 1 vote per March.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
What about having a rating system where the more MAG points you have, the more they count? This means that serious contributors' ratings will count more, whereas jokers rating games a "1" for the hell of it won't make a difference.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
Well...

That certainly was a surprise.

I didn't think you'd suggest that knowing JJJ's point total. Anyhow, what happens if Alex comments (infinite points)?

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago

No, we should base it on ranks. So guest counts 1, reader counts 1 and 1/2, contributor counts 2, Wordsmith counts 3 Dramatist counts 4, Novelist 6, App. Scriv. 8, Jour. Scriv. 10, Mast. Scriv. 12, Grandmaster 15, Founder 20 (infinite points).

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
And I acnowledge JJJs points (he spends so much time on the site its not surprising. Look at his game count. 27 or something...)

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
I reckon it should remain March's job.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
AGREEMENT

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago

rating by rank wouldn't be good either. Everyone has different tastes in what they like or what they don't like, and having a higher rank doesn't mean they would like one game better than they did before they gained that rank, yet suddenly their opinion would affect the game's scores more than it did before? (If you know what I mean).

The problem with basing it on ranks, is that if 15 people liked a game, and then one Grandmaster didn't like it, you could gain 15 points then lose them by a single person. That wouldn't be very balanced.

feature / top game / new system

18 years ago
Agreement!