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Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

This is a pretty cool anti-war novel, which doesn't seem like an anti-war novel at all.  It's also pretty trippy at times...

Billy Pilgrim is like a shitty soldier in the war, and he claims to have to ability to travel through time... He's abducted by aliens who lock him up in a zoo, he says, which is located on their home planet: Tralfamadore.  The Tralfamadorians have a different perception of time than we humans do, as they don't see time as linear or one way.  They claim that each moment in time is frozen, like, in a frame, that it's already planned and laid out that way, and that one can travel through time, per se, and visit each moment as if it were just another room in a hallway.  For example, Billy claims to have seen his death and his birth many times over...  This whole time-travel business deals with the dehumanizing impact of war, and Billy's inabilty to deal with the passing time -- he's chronophobic, we're led to believe.

Anyways, I just read the thing last night (cover to cover, it was so good).  Also, it was assigned, haha, but that's not the point.  It's a pretty decent book, and given that it's been banned in various places around the world, you can bet on it. haha

Has anyone read it?

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago
It's been banned? Holy fuck, must read.

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

Hi! Billy Pilgrim here!

If it's banned, it's good. Or it's made by Endmaster. If the latter, refer to the former. Anyway, sounds like an incredible book. Does it chronicle Mays' Pilgrim's life during the war, and he's experiencing his abilities in combat, or is it like "I used to be in a war..." kinda deal?

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

The format of the book is difficult to describe.  If you've ever read "The Sound and the Fury," you'll find that it's kinda like that, but a LOT easier to follow.  The author's a character in the novel, which doesn't happen to often, I find, and he's telling the story of Pilgrim.

He does it in a way where there really is no Beginning or End, it's all just Billy's story, and becuase there are multiple time skips, it has to be done that way.  You'll find that Billy travels through time whenever he goes to sleep, when he takes a piss, haha, when he's getting yelled... pretty much whenever.  There's a part in the story when Billy asks one of the Tralfamadorians for something to read, and, aside from some shitty earth book, all they have are Tralfamadorian books.  Slaughterhouse-Five is set up like a Tralfamadorian book, as it's divided into many sections (you'll find lots of breaks in the book), and that it's meant to be looked at as a whole, not from beginning to end.  Because they're concept of time is that everything's already "there," if you will, it's already happened that way, it's going to happen that way again, andit'll happen that way every time (if that makes any sense right now), they can see the book in its entirety.

So, yeah... What I mean by that is that Billy's in no one particular place in time.  Well, actually, that's a lie.  The author jumps to present tense once or twice, and Billy's alive during this time (the author doesn't claim to have the ability to time-travel).  Still, the audience follows him where ever (actually whenever) the fuck he goes.

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago
This book seems more and more confusing every sentence I read of you trying to explain it...

I'm so reading this. I haven't read anything on time travel in quite a while.

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

Well, it's less about time-travel than it is using it... haha, if that doesn't confuse you enough, that is. :p

The time-travel makes a statement about freewill and, ultimately, mortality.  (Chronophobia is fear of time.  One fears time often because they fear age.  One fears age because they fear death.)

Yeah, it's a damn good book.

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago
Well, say thing to me. I meant I haven't read a story about time travel in a while.

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

Slaughterhouse 5 is a band.

...and, yes. That IS all I have to say.

Riley

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

Well, that sure is nice, Riley! 

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

Actually, that was a lie. I don't know if that is a band. If it's not.....well, it damn well should be.

Riley

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

Sit down.

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

Sure, it's a great book. He has some other good ones, too, like Timequake, which is pretty damn good. Oh, and Breakfast of Champions, although I don't remember it clearly.

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

That's the thing about time travel: it rapes your mind. Now that's a totally cool thing to do in a story (ie: Lost, and dispite the quirkiness of the time travel, I still get a kick out of knowing absolutely nothing, lol), but if I can't wrap my head around my own plot, problems occur. I'm a simpleton, so alternate histories are as far as I go.

I haven't been able to find Slaughterhouse-Five, but I'll keep looking. Where did you get your copy, Zero?

Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut

15 years ago

I don't think I've read any of his other novels... Hm, maybe.

Eh, school library.  It shouldn't be difficult to find, you know, unless it's banned in your area. haha  It's not likely though.  I'd check local or school library, or a book store.  If all else fails, you can order it from a book store, buy it online, download scans for free, or even just the audio book.