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In the time I've been here, I've seen great reviews and comments in the comments' section of storygames, and equally, bad comments as well. So, as a way to stop bad, spammy, unnecessary, etc comments what if we add a downvote/upvote option in the comments' section?

There's not much to it. You can either upvote or downvote a comment based on how good or bad you think it is. After hitting a certain number of upvotes or downvotes, a notification is sent to an admin or someone. They analyze the comment, then decide if it's either feature-worthy, trash-worthy, or nothing-worthy.

This way, more feature-worthy comments can be recognized quicker, and trash-worthy comments can be recognized (and deleted) quicker as well.

Just what I think, could have already been suggested, but I don't know.

 

This used to serve a similar purpose, but now doesn't, due to JJJ's absence from the site.

There is one problem with your suggestion, I feel. You're relying too heavily on concepts such as honesty and goodwill. If this feature was available for use to non-members as well as regular members, then we would have the problem of people anonymously downvoting otherwise good comments or upvoting poor ones, rendering the system ineffective. Even if the voting was limited to members, I feel this problem would still occur, even if slightly more limited, due to some of the more immature members of the site. It's a nice concept, though, but I don't think it will work.

 

I generally just ignore the majority of non-featured comments since the featured ones are actually worth reading. Not that all non-featured comments are bad, just most of them.

If that were true then isn't it also true for ANY OTHER up voting, and down voting websites? But it's not, is it? 

It likely does, but I don't think it is really as big of a problem as he is making it out to be.

Well, he's suggesting that comments with a certain number of upvotes and downvotes are recommended to an administrator for featuring / deletion. This means that these recommendations would probably go in the admins' notification boxes, which will likely be overflowing with a plethora of other shit at any given time. The system 3J has/had made it possible for him to see all recommendations in one place and systematically go through them. Let's face it, there will be times when both 3J and madglee are gone from the site for a long period of time, and chances are that these notifications will get buried under a metric shit-ton of thread reply notifications and PMs.

Also, 3J's system requires that recommenders be a) members, and b) capable of defending why their recommendation should be put into effect.

Then it should just be made automatic. The highest 2 upvotes will be shown, and comments with 10 or more down votes will be hidden, or something like that. 

Why hide them?

Why hide any other low rated comments from sight? So people who reads the comment section won't have to deal with spam, low quality comments, or just pure junk. 

Spam and junk are mostly deleted anyway. I see no point in hiding downvoted comments in a comment section. Why not just move them down so most people, who likely don't read most of the comments, won't see them.

They will be hidden AND moved down to the lowest regions of the comment section. So people who even read that far won't have to deal with them unless they're really interested. As for low quality comments being deleted - isn't this the whole point of the comment upvote/downvote recommendation? So Mods/Admins will have less work to do?

Moving them down seems seems fine alone.

Your point? Moving them down/up is mainly for the reader to get quality reviews, or just normal comments that aren't trash first. The mod notification thing is to make it easier for the mods but the flaws have already been pointed out.

My point is that hiding them from sight will save a lot of people a lot of time. I see no point in not hiding them from sight. 

Save who time? Moving the 'best' upwards (And indicating these are the 'best'), will tell users the 'worst' will be at the bottom. If you choose you look at the 'worst', then its your choice. JJ already set a standard for what comments should be deleted, I suggest we stick to it rather than delete them on the whim of the users.

Hiding them from sight and deleting them is two different things. Hidden comments can still be seen - as long as you click on them. Deleted comments, are however, gone forever, period. 

Sounds slightly better then. Still pointless.

It saves comment readers time, so it's actually not pointless. 

The upvote/downvote saves people time.

...That's what I'm saying. 

Yes, whilst also adding that hiding comments saves time.

Indeed. 

If a system such as that is put into place, then we may have to deal with the possibility of people downvoting genuinely good comments and these comments becoming hidden. You can't say that this system will be immune to abuse. I mean look at how people are using the tagging system.

# @coins

So only let members downvote or upvote once per comment. Unless the whole community is abusing it then, it shouldn't be a problem. Besides, at first # @coins seems to be a pretty boring thing to do - now it's just what everyone put at the end of their statements if they're referencing trolling. 

I guess.

There are very few individuals who would actually go through the efforts of creating multiple accounts just to upvote or downvote comments. It's just too much of a hassle. On the other hand, if you made it so that a single individual can do that multiple times, just by clicking on a single link incessantly, you will have a deep crisis at hand - just like how the story rating system use to be. A single individual with a single account can click on the rating link as many times as they want - that and plus the fact that the system was lagging at that time, several dozen clicks equals several dozen ratings - all from the same person, but the system would count it as dozens of ratings.   

Just as an FYI- I'ts not like comments no longer get featured since 3j/madGlee aren't very active.

I can and do feature comments   (I can see a list of all recently-left comments.)

I just can't give you points for recommending them.

I dunno, I like the idea. Don't really mind for the notification thing, but I think that the highest-rated comments should be moved upwards, and the order of comments will be based on that rather than by date at first. So the order would go Featured > Highest Rated > By Date .

I think that it would work if limited to only members. Even though we have some immature members who might upvote obscene comments, those are easily deleted. Though I doubt that would happen that much either since the immature members aren't here for reading as much as screwing around on the forums and looking at the newer games for the sake of getting in on the kitty porn.

Don't know how easy/difficult this would be to code.

Pretty easy, actually. If you know how. 

I'm not sure about this. I personally would like the idea, like a sort of Reddit system, where the best (liked) comments get moved to the top of the page. However, I am pretty sure that this system is going to get abused in one way or the other...

I like the idea.

Perhaps only for signed in members?

Or have it work along the lines of how storygame ratings work with higher certain point values for members assigning more weight to the upvote or downvote than people with low point values or non members?

 

For some reason, I think of FML's downvoting and upvoting system when I think of this.

There what happens when something gets repeatedly heavy downvotes is that the comment gets hidden. It can still be seen if clicked on, but is hidden from view when scrolling down. (Which I imagine would be a pain to script possibly)

Of course, for FML nothing happens for upvoting really.

 

 

 

 

That opens the gates for trolls.

That was my original idea for featured comments. See here.