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8 years ago

Just tried to sign up for Obamacare for shits and giggles (not that i would ever help fund that piece of shit)

my deductible is 14k a year my premiuim is 648 a month (948 for all 5 of us) if i dont sign up for Obamacare I will be fined 4-6k a year after 24 consecutive months of not enrolling They will place a 10k tax lien on my house or other financed property. Also this fine can and will be taken out of my income tax returns yearly till paid in full. Also they have permission to garnish a percentage of any deposit I make into the bank, or my wages. 

Obamacare just sounds more affordable every second. And the Libs voted for this guy.... Le Sigh....

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8 years ago

Thanks for taking our taxes and sucking up to the guy. That makes everything just perfect. 

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8 years ago

Government = biggest scam artist ever.

What governmet does to scam artist in U.S.A. = puts them in federal prison
 

Why is government not in federal prison?

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8 years ago

what is worse are all the people bashing the republican party for not supporting the Health care bill... Well stupid fucks this is why they are not.

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8 years ago

also: I didnt enroll I took a screen shot and emailed it to my congressman. with a big font LMAO as the title.

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8 years ago

But I'm a democrat and I don't support Obama. I think I am. 99.8% sure I am. And none of my family does either. 

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8 years ago

thats good, you shouldn't. 

I am a libertarian, i don't support either parties bullshit.

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8 years ago

Once I hit 18 I'm gonna change party. Those two parties have been leading everyone on. None of their candidates are good anymore either. 

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8 years ago

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8 years ago

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8 years ago

Natalow, if I may make a single, most gracious request. 

Please stop posting this spam. Otherwise I'll have to talk to Madglee about deleting your posts. This place is a place for intellectuals to talk. If you don't want to participate, no one cares. 

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8 years ago

Was gonna say that, but you just made it sound so badass...

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8 years ago

She already did that. with that stupid "random/boredom" thread (Which, by the way, i've asked madglee to delete)

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8 years ago

Did Mad reply?

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8 years ago

Fairly recent (The request) and he doesn't log on as much as he used to. He already did it when I requested that he delete the "Start with a letter" thread though, so I don't doubt he'll do it for the thread literally titled "random"

A few of her other threads as well, they're really cluttering up the forums.

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8 years ago

I've deleted a bunch recently. Keeping her above post here (albeit edited) so she gets the message.

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8 years ago

Thank you, ^_^

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8 years ago

Thank you.

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8 years ago

Yeah, it should. But I don't care about what she posts outside. Many think mustache threads were spam, but we didn't delete them, and I'm thankful. 

But to activley spam other threads,and fill it with stupidity is against what CYS lounge stands for. And I don't like that. 

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8 years ago

Mustache threads were hilarious, and I personaly think they livened the community and forums. What Nataliow is doing is annoying spam, and in the wrong thread no less.

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8 years ago

Just make a separate thread for MLP :P

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8 years ago

She already did that. 

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8 years ago

Then she should stick with them... 

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8 years ago

I'm not sure exactly how tax and healthcare is done in the USA (so if I'm missing something obvious tell me) but if you're going to get taxed regardless of whether you sign up for Affordable Care (or whatever its proper name is) or not then wouldn't it be logical to sign up for it?

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8 years ago

No - just look at the numbers - it is way cheaper to take the fine after a 2 year grace period than to buy in.

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8 years ago

Could be, but it's a government health care. Private ones are to be better, I assume/believe (and I'm certain about it for my family's plan). (and Obama promised that we could keep our original plan if we liked it. Didnt know we'd be fined if we don't want to join up with the government care.) 

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8 years ago

When Obama leaves office, the next president will (hopefully) cut obamacare off the tax Ed which is pretty much where all its money comes from. Then when people can't get free appointments or whatever they'll drop it too. I think that's how it is anyway. I haven't taken civics yet. 

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8 years ago

My view on american doctors:

http://www.cracked.com/article_16302_8-medical-terms-your-doctor-uses-to-insult-you.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_19931_the-5-most-terrifying-ways-doctors-went-crazy-job.html

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-horrifying-truths-about-being-medical-doctor/

http://www.cracked.com/article_20449_5-terrifying-things-nobody-tells-you-about-health-care_p2.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_19798_5-terrifying-secrets-about-riding-in-ambulance.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_18840_5-common-medical-procedures-that-secretly-arent-worth-it.html

(Especially the last one)

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8 years ago

My views in Canadian government healthcare:

http://youtu.be/q2jijuj1ysw

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8 years ago

Haha

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8 years ago

Eh, was never that bad for me (and I never had a particularly serious health problem either, just a broken wrist that I hadn't noticed was broken)

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8 years ago

How often that happens....(notice its not a question)

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8 years ago

Dunno, but what you listed never occured to any of my family, so if we are ignoring things based on a groups statement, don't think what you stated matters either. ;P

(Are you sure you don't have a personal doctor though?)

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8 years ago

Your family?
No, I didn't have a personal doctor, used to but he retired/died a while ago (Though he did seem to like me, probably was a factor)

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8 years ago

Yeah. 

Though I haven't been to him yet, since we went to a public one the first year here, and on that trip my mom got pissed and stopped visiting that place. ;p

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8 years ago

I'm really not sure what you're talking about. Could you clarify a bit?

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8 years ago

Been in my new location for two years. First year we went to a clinic, got screwed over, and so I never met the family doctor (the current one)

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8 years ago

How so? (And how come?)

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8 years ago

Price thing is completely true though

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8 years ago

every Canadian I have ever talked to -Drak: "God our healthcare system fucking sucks, eh?" 

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8 years ago

Haha, saw that you posted it twice XD

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8 years ago

My personal experience really wasn't that bad, seriously, all the doctors i've dealt with have treated me very well, the wait times are long (Usually around 3 hours) but haven't been that bad for me.

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8 years ago

Yeah, 3 hours when you unknowingly have a serious condition is horrible ;P

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8 years ago

Serious conditions get in a lot faster (Keep in mind I had a relatively minor problem, and I saw many people who arrived after me go in before because they had actual, you know, serious injuries. There was this one guy who's foot had been run over by a car, got in after a few minutes)

If you unknowingly have a serious condition, then i'd be surprised if you're even going to a hospital. if you don't know what you have is a serious problem, chances are you won't go the hospital for it.

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8 years ago

Wait... Are you talking about hospital or clinic?

I was talking about check ups and such.

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8 years ago

Hospital

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8 years ago

I wish Bill Clinton was still the president, he might have been scummy, but at least he left with a budget surplus . . . Obamacare is another good intention gone wrong, healthcrare is a important thing and people shouldn't have to destroy their budgets to be insured, but I don't think Obamacare is the right solution. I personally am hating on the Republicans because they spurt bullshit without any of the Democrat grace . . . and they shut down the frickin government over a law that already past and is backed by the supreme court, it's like we're in the seventh grade or something

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8 years ago

What did Bill Clinton do that was wrong again?

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8 years ago

He cheated on his wife, with multiple women.

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8 years ago
You are an idiot. He lied under oath.

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8 years ago

What?

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8 years ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal

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8 years ago
Please please dont spew more nonsense out of your mouth. He git a blowjob by hissecretary and lied under oath about it. The reason he was impeached in hissecond is because he lied under oath.... jesus christ...

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8 years ago

What? (Grammar is important dude)

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8 years ago
T y p i n g o n. A k i n d l e d u d e

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8 years ago

Irrelevant haha, what did I write wrong? You didn't explain anything. You just called me an idiot.

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8 years ago

I'm using me brand new computer, hehe, spam =P

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8 years ago

What is it? (Apple computer, Microsoft etc.)

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8 years ago

it's a Lenovo running windows 7, I actually made a forum about it lol

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8 years ago

If I think I can read through your lack of punctuation, I never said that was the only thing he did wrong.

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8 years ago
The only thing he did wrong was, lie under oath. Everything else was his personal business

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8 years ago

Well that doesn't make me an idiot :P I was saying what he did wrong. Cheating on your wife = bad. Never  said that was why he was impeached.

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8 years ago

And what's wrong with that exactly...?

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8 years ago
He lied under oath about it.

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8 years ago

And...? That's private life, why would anyone care about that? It's not like he actually did anything bad to the country, right?

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8 years ago
Uhm because it happened in the oval office where sensitive national security matters are discussed.

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8 years ago

Ok, and did he spend the entire time spilling out national secrets to Hilary? Was she an enemy country spy? Did he let her rifle through his papers later?

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8 years ago
Uhm dude the first lady is assumed to be near those secrets, hence why she has a Secret service escort and is monitored closerthan the president himself.... kind of a silly point to bring up dude...

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8 years ago

do you read a woman's work files while having sex? I don't think they had much else on their mind lol, and if it was his secretary, wouldn't she see a lot of those papers anyway?

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8 years ago

Seems like a really fucking stupid reason to impeach a president, your private life is your private life... 

Now, if he was actually doing a bad job, that would be a whole 'nother thing.

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8 years ago
Lying under oath is a felony, a high ranking felony. Very serious business for a civilian, treason for a president.

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8 years ago

Frankly, he shouldn't have been asked a question like that in the first place, it was a public situation no? He should have been asked privately, and details shouldn't have been given out. Absolutely horrible way to go about the whole thing.

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8 years ago

"The charges arose from an investigation by Independent Counsel Ken Starr. Originally dealing with the failed land deal years earlier known as Whitewater, Starr, with the approval of United States Attorney General Janet Reno, conducted a wide ranging investigation of alleged abuses including the firing of White House travel agents, the alleged misuse of FBI files, and Bill Clinton's conduct during the sexual harassment lawsuit filed by a former Arkansas government employee, Paula Jones. In the course of the investigation, Linda Tripp provided Starr with taped phone conversations in which Monica Lewinsky, a former White House Intern, discussed having oral sex with Clinton. At the deposition, the judge ordered a precise legal definition of the term "sexual relations"[1] that Clinton claims to have construed to mean only vaginal intercourse. A much-quoted statement from Clinton's grand jury testimony showed him questioning the precise use of the word "is." Contending that his statement that "there's nothing going on between us" had been truthful because he had no ongoing relationship with Lewinsky at the time he was questioned, Clinton said, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the—if he—if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement".[2] Starr obtained further evidence of inappropriate behaviour by seizing the computer hard drive and email records of Monica Lewinsky. Based on his conflicting testimony, Starr concluded that Clinton had committed perjury. Starr submitted his findings to Congress in a lengthy document (the so-called Starr Report), and simultaneously posted the report on the internet, replete with lurid descriptions of encounters between Clinton and Lewinsky.[3] Starr was criticised by Democrats for spending $70 million on an investigation that substantiated only perjury and obstruction of justice.[4] Critics of Starr also contend that his investigation was highly politicized because it regularly leaked tidbits of information to the press, in violation of legal ethics, and because his report included lengthy descriptions which were humiliating yet irrelevant to the legal case.[5][6]"

 

not at all bro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton

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8 years ago

He wasn't actually impeached right? He left before they officially impeached him I think

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8 years ago

he was acquitted.

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8 years ago

but he was tried under impeachment law/proceedings yes

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8 years ago

let a man do as he pleases to satisfy those kinky desires =P 

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8 years ago

Shame shame. 

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8 years ago

Didn't Kennedy cheat on his wife too? 

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8 years ago

So. Much.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15895_the-5-most-badass-presidents-all-time_p2.html

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8 years ago

Republicans held majority of house and senate during that time of his presidency (I think)

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8 years ago
The last time the government had a shut down over budget was when Clinton was in office....

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8 years ago

true, but the $$$$$!!!!!!! really the money is important, healthcare won't matter when China gets pissed off when we don't have their, and I believe that shutdown lasted not too long . . . I believe anyway =P 

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8 years ago

Wow Aeon, amazed making a mistake about something makes you an idiot. Remind me never to engage in a discussion with you. :\

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8 years ago
He didnt there are several posts on this thread that made me go wtf?

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8 years ago

 

 
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11 minutes ago
You are an idiot. He lied under oath.
 

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8 years ago

lol oh no i meant the "he slept with multiple women" comment. he didn't he actually admitted he never "slept" with a woman other than his wife during his tenure.

Just got blown by the one. :)

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8 years ago

So, you call Tant an idiot? Not, you know, the people who are pissing you off?

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8 years ago

Again, I'm incline to say your an ass since you randomly stated "stop spewing stupidity" and "you're an Idiot" to someone. Everyone has made mistakes. Even you, and I doubt you'd enjoy it if someone called you an idiot, 

what keeps this site civil is a lack of insults when someone gets their facts wrong. When they make an idiotic statement (like "No Polotics MLP durp" for example) insulting them makes them hopefully see that they are wrong. 

But when someone gets their facts straight. Saying "You're an idiot" makes you look like a total ass. 

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8 years ago

Thanks man (and drak too) but chill. Haven't taken offense really, just confusion and a reawakening of  my ex-grammar nazi eyes ;)

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8 years ago

Not attacking Aeon (Gods know i've reacted much more violently than an angry forum insult when i've been frustrated), just confused that he was angry at you, I mean, there are easily at least 3 other people he would have more right to be angry at on this thread, myself included.

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8 years ago

I'm not angry bro?

 

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8 years ago

Ah, then they must have been the friendly insults one shares with people they like, for example:

Me: Heeeey! Jer, how are you you prissy fucker!

Jer: I'm good you asshole, i'm good. Hey, how's so and so going?

Me: Great man. (Continues conversation with gradually less insulting language)

---

Or, during an argument:

Me: Ok, listen up you deaf shit-sack piece of goat asshole, you're wrong about so and so (Long-winded explanation)

Jer: Oh? Listen up you week-old sewage smelling bitch, (Long-winded counter)

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8 years ago

If I was insulting him for real there would have been more profanity and much more original and "unique" names. 

No I was just referring to a couple of lines from a few posts. Then posting from my kindle makes him rage because of the typos lol.

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8 years ago

And Drak I've only gotten angry at you once :) who are the other 2?

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8 years ago

Aman, Kwism

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8 years ago

whatd Kwism do? and Aman was just telling me I was being a dick, I can take the truth bud. I can wear big boy pants when I need to. I just prefer to run around in my undies.

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8 years ago

Not the typos, lack of punctuation ;) Plus, give me a break, I'm an ex-grammar nazi here! (Ask Aman... He knows)

But yeah, cussing is irrelevant, you just said something uncalled for, and it kinda shows that as I shouldn't debate politics with you. Imagine-

I: Didn't Obama make 10 million jobs? *

Aeon: fucking idiat!

*note: Obama doing that doesn't matter, since so much more jobs were lost. But it's an example okay?

OOC: don't take this to be too insulting.

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8 years ago

Nah please don't feel that way. I blew up for a silly reason. 

 

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8 years ago

and then after that I was over it, till it turned into this big ass fiasco. So yeah don't feel that way bud. 

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8 years ago

Hey, don't make it sound like you were penalised! Haha

But yeah, forgives man.

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8 years ago

I offer a trade, I send you a cuban cigar, you send me a real pic of Aman's mustache?

 

:)

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8 years ago

Mmm, but nah haha. Aman's Mustache is too fearsome. Plus. There is something you don't realise...

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8 years ago

which is? 

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8 years ago

Secrets.

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8 years ago

Aman is actually a WOman?

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8 years ago

Something about his musta--

*gets carried away by his cameo in deadman walking

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8 years ago

He doesn't actually have one? :p

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8 years ago

He does, something else...

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8 years ago

No, he really doesn't have one, he's told me in the past, he only has a beard.

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8 years ago

Lies! Slander! Fakes! My mustache is eternal! 

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8 years ago

His Mustache is part of his beard, but yeah, that was the big reveal :P

though it isn't that connected to be honest (peach fuzz connecting it to the beard) so His Mustache is One and almighty still.

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8 years ago

Lies! Slander! Evil! 

Youre just trying to frame me since I beat you up today!

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8 years ago

Eep!

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8 years ago

Of course.

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8 years ago

I'm not one of them am I? I try to be likable . . .

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8 years ago

I'm new here, so I can't judge, but aside from some comments you made, you haven't especially annoyed me. :)

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8 years ago

YES! I'm only slightly annoying =P, I'm pretty new too soo . . .

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8 years ago

eh I am a dick, and I fly off the handle at people who don't deserve it. 

Its just i have heard this argument so many times that I would think it is public knowledge what happened. Ignorance of the situation flares my nostrils.

Sorry. Sincerely. And Sorry to Aman who seems overly hurt by my comment.

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8 years ago

Why would I be hurt? I insult Tanstaffl all the time (and beat him up as well. ;P) 

Just don't want this site to go down the path of most sites, where discussion is liked at first, but gradually becomes really bad to discuss. (with people starting off with insults). Been to a site that ended up like that, and I don't want this site to end up like it. 

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8 years ago

Yeah  haha, Aman smashes me through the hallway aha. 

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8 years ago

Lockers, headlocks, 

Its so much fun when you can bully people. ^_^

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8 years ago

*sigh

Yep, but I'm taller than you, shortstop ;)

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8 years ago

Rage

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8 years ago

I like the thought of a place where I can actually discuss things with people on the internet without it turning into a 'your momma' contest . . .

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8 years ago

Aman wasn't overly insulted to be honest, he just kinda noted that as a debater you seemed like a 'dick' (what you just admitted to haha)

But yeah, Internet and all, forgives. Sorta.

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8 years ago

Not all the time either. I am ignorant to a lot of things going on in which I make a biased opinion. Just to get my ass kicked in a debate, it hurts the feels. 

So I said sorry. I don't wanna be that guy.

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8 years ago

Alright :)

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8 years ago

Perhaps too hard?

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8 years ago

What does that mean ?!?!?

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8 years ago

That the harder you try at something the less you succeed. It usually works when you comfortably relax and slide with it. Although that might just be with me. Hmm.... You get what I mean though?

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8 years ago

I got it.

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8 years ago

Oh! I thought you were implying that I already failed, as a strait A student, I don't like failing =P

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8 years ago

Um, I was talking about your "likable" statement. 

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8 years ago

Yeah, it's like that guy on the site who pretended to be his younger brother basically asking, "do you lyke me????" And now I doubt that most members REALLY like him :P

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8 years ago

It's more like general pity and sadness. Close enough, right?

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8 years ago

Actually, Yes, exactly. It really is. (Not sarcasm, that actually is the best way you could put it)

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8 years ago

Mmm..... Not really. I find slight annoyance at this. But hey I understand why.

And what was his name?

liuxess or something like that?

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8 years ago

Wasn't it reapersboy?

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8 years ago

Reapersboy...

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8 years ago

Yup

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8 years ago

Think Hugs is talking 'bout the troll. 

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8 years ago

The lelouch dude?

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8 years ago

Lelouch, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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8 years ago

I knew it started with an "L" that's the name I was searching for and I thought you were talking about him because he claimed his little brother would get on when he screamed at everyone. 

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8 years ago

Oh right, that was during SOFLB, when he randomly joined in and said his brother took over his computer haha. What a jerk bag >:P

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8 years ago

Jerk bag? Is that a mix of jerk and douche bag?

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8 years ago

Yeah haha.

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8 years ago

Lol I guess that's acceptable! I'd probably made up words or something of which have little or no real meaning. And they can get really strange.... :/

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8 years ago

Do I really want to know?

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8 years ago

When I say made up I'm not joking. 

Itd be a collage of strange sounding words that have no meaning other than showing that I'm trying to show I'm angry at someone or whatever. 

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8 years ago

And maybe a few words that aren't normally used as insults. 

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8 years ago

Oh yeah, I've done that too haha. I started saying 'Jerk-Bag' on Aman in RL haha. I've got a couple others, but they float to my head on cue.

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8 years ago

I've got a few I use commonly that people can understand. I use flip and flippin' a lot and sometimes fudge-lover. OuO

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8 years ago

Yeah, I substitute fudge too haha. I also sometimes say dumb-butt or butt-hole (instead of saying 'ass') haha. Sorta like saying heck instead of hell.

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8 years ago

Yeah. I say heck sometimes. The only word that I say which could be considered a curse word is crap. It's not that bad though. My chemistry teacher says it. And he's a great guy. 

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8 years ago

I know right? My classmates say stuff like the F word, but penalise me for saying 'Crap'

God it's so annoying -_-

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8 years ago

Hypocrites. I can be one too sometimes although I try not too. 

......

Weird that a topic on obamacare has turned into a discussion about cuss word alternatives. And I wasn't trying to derail the thread. Eh. 

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8 years ago

Meh, it's fine. In a thread as big as this I don't think we made too much trouble... (Though perhaps I should make a thread dedicated to cuss word alternatives tomorrow...  Anywho, Gnight)

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8 years ago

K night. 

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8 years ago

How did Obamacare turn into a conversation about cussing? :P

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8 years ago

Um.....youd have to reread our conversation because I dont remember.

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8 years ago

Easy Answer: This is CYS. This is normal here.

Boring/Long/Hard Answer: Since Aman tends to randomly derail threads to a different topic(for some reason this has happened less or maybe it's because nearly everybody does it now.) and caused a lot of randomness and insanity. Some of us starting doing the same thing and soon it's normal for a conversation about say... *walking dogs being turned into how necromancy would work as an economy in the modern world.*

*=Has not happened yet.

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8 years ago

Sure it hasn't happened? lol

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8 years ago

At least on this site as far as I know.

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8 years ago

Aman didn't derail this one. Me and person up there ^ did. 

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8 years ago

I'm not Aman...

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8 years ago

I'd like to keep this last bastion of internet reason intact, so lets edge away from the insults yes

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8 years ago

yeah . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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8 years ago

Didn't make a real mistake, since I never said that was the reason he was impeached :/

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8 years ago

First of all, government should not be rich pricks, if people wanna campaign, it should be upheld by EVERYONE who thinks they're  worth voting for, and it should come out of the pockets of the candidate and their supporters, not just a massive, faceless charity. The government should be paid REASONABLE amounts of money, not millions, and they should treat their jobs the way they're supposed to be treated. They are public servants, and it's about damn time they realized it.

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8 years ago

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8 years ago

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8 years ago

Touche'  ^v^