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This bug was closed 6/23/2012: so it was a pretty weird bug to fix... but the new messages just doesn't include these pagers.So, there ya go.

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14 years ago

My outbox is only supposed to be 4 pages, so why does it say 1175?

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14 years ago

To be honest i dont know what your talking about. it could be that you've sent 1175 messages out. Which would be an impressive number considering i havnt sent anywhere near that many.

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14 years ago

I've only ever sent messages to two people

There is no way I could've sent 1175 messages. At most, 8.

It confuzzles me

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14 years ago

I cant see the picture you posted, only the top portion, i dont see what you are talking about.

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14 years ago

Alright, I went to my outbox And for some reason it said I have 1175 pages of messages, which is impossible, there should only be four pages, like my inbox.

When I tried to go past the fourth page it said "The message was not found"

What I'm asking is why does my outbox say I have 1175 messages when I really only have about 8? It's not that big a deal, I'd just like to know what happened.

(and confuzzles is my word for confuses)

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14 years ago

Well im bumfuzzled as to why you even have 4 pages. I have a couple hundred messages in my outbox, but i only have one page.

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14 years ago

alright, now I'm really confuzzled

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14 years ago

They aren't pages, each one is an individual message. For example, in my inbox it says X of 1089 as I have 1089 inbox messages. In my outbox, if I'm viewing the message seventh from the top, it would say 7 of 530, as my outbox has 530 messages in it.

As for why secretstarz's outbox says she has over 1000 messages, I have no clue. It's not pages though, it's individual messages. Just clarifying.

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14 years ago

Is that the number of messages the person I was messaging has?

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14 years ago

It wouldn't be that. Try deleting some messages (I can only see the top sliver of your pic so I don't know what it actually looks like) and seeing what the message goes down to.

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14 years ago

Top sliver?

Do you mean the bottom was pixelated out? I did that because that part wasn't relevent to my confusion

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14 years ago

it's not blurry like I would expect from pixilation. Just that everything below the CYS logo is completely white untill the next comment.

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14 years ago

That's weird. I can see it just fine.

I deleted a couple of messages but it still says 1175...

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14 years ago
Interesting bug. Luckily nothing that will really impact you too much. Nice find :)

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14 years ago

I couldn't help but try to decipher the identity of the blurred out name. I'd say it's fergie14233.

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14 years ago

You'd be correct

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14 years ago
I know the message not found thing appears when you try to access a messageID that isn't associated with your account (being that it was not sent by or to you).

I'm not sure what the number means, though. I'll try to look into it. Mine says 300 something. I don't think I had that many either.

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14 years ago

I delete my in and outbox regularly, so I can't help with this forum very much anymore.

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14 years ago

Bo this is a tread, a forum is a group of threads, normally it wouldn't bother me but you make that terminology mistake alot, then you said it can go either way, and it cant. off subject anyways.

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14 years ago
Yea, I kind of agree with Ugilick. Forum refers to either the entire forums, or each section of the forum. Threads are each topic in a forum. And posts are responses to the thread.

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14 years ago

Forum

b. A public meeting place for open discussion.
c. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.

I know the conotation of forum is the big "envelope" I guess you could say, but the denotation could easily be used for this as well. Plus, Ugi, I don't like the way you made such a big deal about me correcting your gross spelling and grammatical mistakes, but its perfectly fine to complain about what you think forum means. But fine, if you want to push the forum issue, despite the definition above, prepare for the return of the "grammar nazi".

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14 years ago
Neither of those definitions describes an internet forum. Those are broad and general terms, which isn't what we are discussing.

Forum: An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages.

Thread: A thread (sometimes called a topic) is a collection of posts, usually displayed from oldest to latest, although this is typically configurable.

Post: A post is a user-submitted message enclosed into a block containing the user's details and the date and time it was submitted.


I don't even care, but it just sounds weird to say "so I can't help with this forum very much anymore". Makes it seem like you're done with the whole CYS forum, not just the one thread. Also, I have no idea what you and Ugilick are talking about outside of this :P

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14 years ago


Weird, I couldn't find those definitions on my go-to dictionary sites. Could you tell me where you got that from? It seems like something I should check into if it has more modern uses of the word, as it is I took the two closest closest definitions of the word I could find.

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14 years ago
Most dictionary sites aren't updated to use more modern, computer terms.Doesn't mean your using the word right.

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14 years ago

But you didn't actually use a dictionary or other credible source? Crap I could have used that.

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14 years ago

Its not a debate, its not about being winning or lossing, its about what is right and wrong, you are wrong. lol

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14 years ago

I'm right and your right, seeing as there is no actual definition of forum applicable to this conversation. Thats not a debate, thats a fact (remember that the word fact allows it to be disproven as well, so if you can find a definition please post.)

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14 years ago

Bo, no your not right, This is a thread.

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14 years ago
I do the something often as well. But I do know the correct terminology I just tend to misuse it.

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14 years ago

That is quite common. Many words are used for other purposes than their actual definitions (such as cursewords).

Remember when we were talking about the word "supernatural"? Well, like I said then, this is a word that I believe has no meaning, but I still understand what people are referring to when they use it.

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14 years ago

Thats called the conotation. As in the meaning associated with the word that is not the actual definition. The actual definition is denotation. Like the denotation of ass is donkey, but how many people who use today are reffering to a donkey?

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14 years ago
I do, all the time. It is just as insulting either way you put it.

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14 years ago

HAhahahaa when people miss use words I act confused and eplain to them by deffinition what they said. they end up being the ones confused if i continue that process long enough.

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14 years ago

Yes, outwitting others can be a fun way to spend the day.

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14 years ago
Connotation (two n's, you spelling nazi, Bo) is less of a second definition and more of an implied meaning. So, if the definition of forum is a collection of threads and the definition of thread is a collection of posts, then using forum to mean thread is NOT a connotation. It's a misuse of the word and Ugilick is right.

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14 years ago

But the definition is not a collection of threads. I tried to ask Zikara if it was an actual definition, and although she didn't give a straight answer, it sounded like she made those descriptions through what she thought it was.

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14 years ago
"An Internet forum, or message board, is an online discussion site" - Wikipedia
"A thread (sometimes called a topic) is a collection of posts, usually displayed from oldest to latest" - Wikipedia

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14 years ago

Although, I don't normally like to accept Wikipedia, there isn't anything to base it against, so I'll accept it for this topic. I admit I lost this.

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14 years ago

Second time, its not about losing or winning. it wasnt a debate. Its about being correct or being incorrect.

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14 years ago

Ugh, Ugilick, ever heard of the phrase "Let sleeping dogs lie"? You really need to learn it. By saying I lost the debate (and it was a debate if we exchanged ideas to see who was correct), I'm saying you're correct and I'm incorrect. However, I don't like empty threats, so my ultimatum will come through, prepare for the return of the grammar nazi.

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14 years ago
Ugilick, come on. That's really splitting hairs, I definitely think that was a debate. Thanks Bo! I super appreciate it when debates actually resolve, it makes the 99% that don't, actually worth it. You just actually made me so stoked.

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14 years ago

if I feel I legitimately lost something, I'll admit it.

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14 years ago

I beleive i failed to properly express what i meant. My intention was that by saying I lost, means that i failed to prove my point, and is not the same as, oh i see now I was wrong. What I'm trying to get at is that in a debate people try to argue there point rather or not what they are saying is actually correct. Then "lose" or "win" depending on rather or not they did better then there opponent, regaurdless of who's side of the argument is actually right. This still isnt exactly what im trying to say, Im a speaker more so then a writer.

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14 years ago
Nah! The winner of the debate is the guy who's correct, the loser is the guy who's incorrect. Through the resolution of the debate, everyone learns.

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14 years ago

So by being able to out smart your opponent you can make something that is not actually true, become true?

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14 years ago

You mean just like the Nazis made the fact that Jews were inferior true, and then the Allied Powers made it true that they were equal after they outsmarted the Nazis? Are do you mean when MLK convinced the nation that what was previously true (that Blacks were inferior) false, and made it true that all races are equal? You see, what is true or not true is based off what we believe. What we believe is true today, may be false in the next century, decade, or even year.

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14 years ago

What we think is true, isnt automatically true. that was a ridiculouse argument.

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14 years ago

ridiculous* That*

How can you say it's not? For all we know, Christianity is a lie, and the universe is controlled by a man who talks to his cat named Lord all day long while continuously being surprised that pencils write. Now, if I walked up to someone and said that was true would they believe it? We thought that Pluto was a planet for the longest time, so it was true. Later, they disproved it and said it wasn't, now that is true.

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14 years ago

LOL, that doesnt make any sense, think about what your saying. Your first few lines actually proved my point. What we think is true, isnt always true. Did you even think for a second? lololololol

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14 years ago

doesn't* isn't*

You mean my  point that what we think is true we believe to be true untill we are proven wrong? Yes I did think about that. Now, like I said earlier, calm down and read that through rationally while keeping in mind what I'm trying to prove. I know you get irrational when you are insulted, embarrased, or when things simply aren't going to plan, so I'm not going to have any hard feelings, but your free to feel whatever you like.

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14 years ago

outsmart*

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14 years ago

If i get into an argument with a total moron about how many cards are in a standard deck of playing cards and convince him that there are 47. does that make it true? no, im afraid it doesnt. Quit being combative.

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14 years ago

I* Does* No* I'm* doesn't*

Answering a question you yourself posted is not beign combative. Accusing others irrationally is combative, however.

 

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14 years ago

The form in which you posted the question is combative. Also pointlessly correcting grammer in order to agitate, which is failing, Is also combative. I gon mak lot mistak so u wast u time coricting.

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14 years ago

Answer* not question, my bad.

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14 years ago

is* I'm* going* make* a lot* of mistakes* you* waste* your* correcting*

You can mess up as many times as you want, but it does have a point. The point is that you have grossly misspelled many words and used a lot of grammatical errors, and I want you to see that so you can correct them. My point isn't to agitate (although if that was my purpose it would still have a point, if you didn't notice), so it isn't combative.

"What we think is true, isnt automatically true. that was a ridiculouse argument." - ugilick

That, however, is a combative response to an argument. Now, I know that one side that is being combative often sees others as being offensive for the slightest instances and most meaningless mistakes, so please calm down.

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14 years ago

I* I* "Oh, I see now I was wrong."* their* regardless* I'm* I'm*

It was a debate, even by your own description. We did both argue our points, but I wasn't correct, I simply thought I was. Your side did win because you did better than me, regardless meaning you could have been right just as much as you could not have been.

I am swayed, though, but who did better than me depends. Zikara did a great job of defining things, but she failed to cite her sources, so I was forced to see that as what she thought it meant. You, on the other hand, made your initial argument, then it felt like you just continually said "I'm right, your wrong" Like that's the only argument you needed. 3J finalized it by both taking actual definitions and citing them.

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14 years ago

If you would please post any further continuation to the argument down here, that would be great. We simpoly don't have room anymore and it makes it easier for 3J to delete later :)

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14 years ago
truth
noun /tro͞oTH/ 
truths, plural

1. The quality or state of being true
2. That which is true or in accordance with fact or reality
3. *********A fact or belief that is accepted as true*********

^^WIKTIONARY


I'm very strongly on Bo's side for this argument. Truth is quite obviously arbitrary. There's no way to actually PROVE anything, including via the scientific method. The scientific method does render information that is quite USEFUL and we use it as fact because that lets us do things like fly airplanes. Is it gravity that causes objects to constantly accelerate towards the surface of the Earth? It sure as hell looks like it, but it could be an invisible God who simply chooses to do that arbitrarily.

Truth is simply whatever we think is correct at the time.

"Second time, its not about losing or winning. it wasnt a debate. Its about being correct or being incorrect." - Ugilick.

I'll say it again, you're wrong on multiple points in this post.

1. It was clearly a debate.
2. Losing is being incorrect. Winning is being correct. You can't distinguish between losing and being incorrect because they are one in the same.

This post doesn't make any sense.

"So by being able to out smart your opponent you can make something that is not actually true, become true?"

This is the crux of the argument and it's great that you arrived at it right away! In effect, on a small scale, yes. Look at the definition of truth. Definition 1 and 2 are pedantic and definition 3 is what it all boils down to. If everyone present accepts something as true, then for those people it is true.

Now, you can say, I'm flying right now! If you actually believe that's true (not just say it, but actually believe it) and you're alone and unobserved, then it's impossible to prove that you aren't flying. The truth of the matter is, you ARE flying. If someone sees you not flying, then not everyone agrees and the truth is in contention, after some simple tests it can be concluded that you aren't flying. See?

Truth is a fact or idea that is accepted as true. Period.

"What we think is true, isnt automatically true. that was a ridiculouse argument." - Ugilick

According to the DEFINITION of truth. You are clearly wrong. Truth is defined as "A fact or belief that is accepted as true." Don't call an argument ridiculous so casually, it makes you look like a pompous ignoramus and you aren't that. You need to be a lot more humble in a such a grand debate or else you end up appearing callous.

On the other hand, Bo, you are clearly being combative. He's COMPLETELY right that your asinine spelling Nazi ways are provocative and they totally weaken your standing and argument. Also, you're grammar isn't actually all that great, and you've made some spelling mistakes. Deal with your own shit before you pick on him.

I'm not saying mine's perfect, but here's some of your errors, since you so clearly like to point them out:

"Although, I don't normally like to accept Wikipedia, there isn't anything to base it against, so I'll accept it for this topic. I admit I lost this." - Bo

A sentence like "I admit I lost this" is vague, you should replace "this" with "this debate" since otherwise, this could refer to anything, like your propensity to accept Wikipedia. This is a minor error which would lead to a lower mark on a University paper. Take it from me. Also, the whole post sounds chunky. "There is not anything to base it against" is a very weak sentence and I'm sure it could be rewritten to suit a more grammatically correct form.

"however, I don't like empty threats, so my ultimatum will come through, prepare for the return of the grammar nazi." - Bo

How does an ultimatum come through? What does that even mean? Capitalize Nazi.

"if I feel I legitimately lost something, I'll admit it." - Bo

Capitalize the first letter of a your sentences.

"You mean my point that what we think is true we believe to be true untill we are proven wrong? Yes I did think about that. Now, like I said earlier, calm down and read that through rationally while keeping in mind what I'm trying to prove. I know you get irrational when you are insulted, embarrased, or when things simply aren't going to plan, so I'm not going to have any hard feelings, but your free to feel whatever you like." - Bo

Until has one L and at the end it should be "you're" not "your".

"Answering a question you yourself posted is not beign combative. Accusing others irrationally is combative, however." - Bo

However should not conclude that final sentence.

"You can mess up as many times as you want, but it does have a point. The point is that you have grossly misspelled many words and used a lot of grammatical errors" - Bo

Used lots of grammatical errors? I think you meant, "made lots of grammatical errors". Just a little grammatical error there.

Now, like I said earlier, my grammar isn't perfect, but you won't see my going around calling people on their grammar in the forum like you do. Keep in mind that I grabbed ALL of these posts from your recent posts on this thread. I did that searching in about 5 minutes, so with a careful eye, there are likely to be dozens more. But that's completely fine, so chill out with the Nazi-ing (see, that's not a word. Big deal? No.)

I hope you both read through this completely.

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14 years ago
So yeah, after re-reading, there's a lot of my own grammatical errors in there. Point still stands, perhaps stronger.

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14 years ago

I said ultimatium come through because I honestly didn't know how to say that lol. Also (I was wondering this as I was typing it) in the term "grammar Nazi", should grammar be capitalized as well seeing as it is part of the name?

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14 years ago

Actually definition three of truth is the loosest definition, and is in fact Perceived truth, which is different from truth. Even if none no the truth that does not change the truth, but if everyone thinks one thing is true, it is a perceived truth. An example, Bob kills John, Bob's lawyer convinces everyone that Bob did not kill John. True or False, Did Bob kill John?