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After reading The Hairy Potter by FateGas I was wondering what everyones veiws are on illegal and legal substances are and also how educated the populace of this site are about such things. Do you just go along with what the schools and media teach you and say No!? or have you done research on it yourself and then said No!? or the opposite? I have done research on these things and I myself have decided that a few drugs have more pros than cons. Before I learned I was just going along with the schools and media and said no. Then I did some research and now I don't stay above the influence.

Because I now know that there not all that bad and the ones I do have medical properties that greatly out number the consiquences.

Is this just a polite way of telling everyone you're a stoner haha.

Back to the subject, I pretty much have learned to disregard most of the things above-the-influence commericials and police officers tell me about illegal drugs. There was a point in my life last year where I would be classified as a "stoner" but that's pretty much passed since I am going to have to get drug tested in the future.

While some drugs (like heroin and methamphetamines) should be illegal, other drugs like cannabis should be legalized for recreational use. Here's a fun little link that pissed off my teachers while I was doing research for a project.

http://www.drugpolicy.org/facts/drug-facts/marijuana-facts

Here is a link for facts about many drugs.

http://www.erowid.org/

Anyone who smokes cigarettes is an idiot...there's really just no nice way to put it. At some point they were peer-pressured into trying it, or thought it was actually good. There's no benefits whatsoever to it, and it should be made illegal.

Weed is the only illegal drug I have experience with (laws in Canada aren't that strict). Personally I decided against trying it, since I don't really like things that affect my mind. And although most of the people I knew who smoked were pretty stupid (in fact every roomate I've had has smoked weed), I don't have anything against it. It doesn't seem to be habit forming and it's doesn't have many negatives. So I wouldn't be opposed to it being legalized (though I wouldn't really care either way).

I don't know enough about more "hardcore" drugs to comment on them.

I think cigarettes are cool. Why? Well, they cause lung cancer, they're really bad for you, and http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3073408/1/ Notice the smoking? Anything associated with something that awesome is automatically awesome. Please note that the link contains slash and extreme (maybe. I don't do it, so I don't know. Probably, though.) BDSM. Don't like? Don't read.

I smoked weed in high school and college. I don't anymore because I realize I don't do anything on drugs that I can't do when I'm not. Why spend money for nothing? Same goes for alcohol. I never smoked cigs because I didn't like the flavor and didn't need to do something habitual like I've heard people who smoke do. A few years ago I asked a coworker who smoked cigarettes and cigars to let me try one of his cigs and cigars just for the novel experience. Would not try again- just weakens your lungs, so no point for me.

I agree, roofies take way to much effort to obtain these days.

And I am proud to stand with you.

And I'm proud to say I no longer hold such a stance. haha

To date, I've probably tried just about every type of drug at least once.  That includes natural and synthetic cannibinoids, depressants, stimulants/euphoric empathogens, psychedelic ethneogens, opiates, and so on, having started a little over a year ago with alcohol.

That said, I don't simply take something if offered or any sort of thing like that - I always put in a good amount of research beforehand.  You know, what does it do, adverse effects, positive reports, negative reports, and stuff like that.  I also only do them with people I'm particularly close with, only when obtain from a trusted source, and only when I'm free from responsibility - not gonna smoke pot if I've got to write an essay, for example.  Except for one time, but that ended up working out pretty well. haha

Simply put, it doesn't affect my life negatively.  On the contrary, I wouldn't hesitate to say my life is now significantly better in regard to my personal relationships, I'm much more aware of my own world view and don't let my biases influence my judgments like I used to, I generally feel like a better person in my experience, and my interactions with new people are much more involved.  And I mean that like all the time now, haha, not necessarily while on a substance.  Furthermore, I haven't lost my mind in any way.  I've retained my integrity and my identity throughout my experiences.

All in all, it's very easy to "just say no!" and think "drugs are bad for you," because... why wouldn't you? haha  There are no "drop acid, experience greater reality, find meaning in the mundane" commercials.  Only thing is, until you've actually experienced it, plain and simple, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Not saying the facts one states are wrong, but that you simply don't have an accurate concept of any substance you haven't experienced.

I'll say that nearly all drugs, including crack, meth, and all those "really bad" ones... well, aren't "bad."  It's people who given them a bad name.  Junkies, deadbeats, fiends, and so on.  They're the ones people think of when they think of drugs.  They don't think of "users" of such drugs as bright young college students, or as that friendly person who remembers your birthday without a facebook reminder, haha, or as the guy who just gets along with everybody and isn't a dick. haha  You're more likely to find someone like that than someone hitting you up for money or harassing you

I think every such substance should be legal (which I also believed years before).  And of course I'm with JJJ here, just because you legalize it doesn't mean you can suddenly go dosing people without their knowledge or against their will, so... it's a nonissue, really.  Just know what you're putting into your body and don't live your life around it, just like with anything else 

Spoken like a true genius. (No sarcasm)

Thanks, haha 

Never played actually :o

Oh and I forgot to mention a thing about substance abuse.  It can and will happen if you're not careful.  There are people out there who do some pretty shitty things on drugs and for drugs.  But then from my experience, drugs don't change people, they reveal them, so to speak.  You know how some people say you show your true colors when you're drunk?  Same goes for just about everything (excluding when severely overdone - after a point, some can make you cynical and fiendy [meth] and others can make you loving and humble [mda], depending on the way it acts on your brain chem)

Wow Zero I couldn't say it better than you even if I tried. People like you inspire me :)

Totally, 100% agree with JJJ about the mindset.  Especially when it comes to empathogens and psychedelics, being in any negative state of mind absolutely will result in a horrific experience and will leave you pretty scarred (bitter, cynical, etc) for some time thereafter.

Atomic, 'ppreciate it.  Happy you think so :)  

Cool, I'm really not too familiar with Prozac other than it's an SSRI.  Essentially, all that does is trick your brain into releasing more serotonin, thus making you feel happier (content).  Some of the more common adverse reactions might include anxiety, headaches, dizziness, and trouble sleeping, but even the less common ones don't include hallucinations.  Unless it was a result of mad sleep deprivation (or some fucked up stuff goin on with Prozac I'm not aware of haha), there should be no reason for such a reaction... at least, that's the case for SSRI's in general.  Pharm Co's usually add some asshole agents to deter from abuse (like the amount of paracetemol[500mg] in Vicodin), but I dunno.  Haha, also, 3-5 out of 100 people isn't really that rare if you think about it.  I can see 3-5% having maybe some heavier adverse symptoms, but what you describe can't be that common.

Wanting to step out of a moving car would be normal in a comedown state and talking about stuff randomly would be normal in a high state... haha, so my question is, were you a user.... or an abuser? ;)

That reaction does not happen to 3-5%. I have never seen anything like that occur in the thousands of people I've treated. I would guess that you were also ingesting some other medication which had a synergistic effect and led to a serotonergic crysis. It is possible you had NMS but that would be so rare with a starting dosage of Prozac that it would be less than 1%. I can see why you then be frightened to try any other psychiatric med.

I have to agree with that, I took Prozac for about a month or two in seventh grade and it threw me into a depression that had me hospitalized for three days.

Ack!

i like crack

Hm, I know people usually carry a bit of compazine or thorazine around to take them out of hallucinogenic experiences that might be going bad (I think it's an antipsychotic or something).  Other than that, I don't really know anything about it. haha  Sounds like you had a  pretty horrible experience though - I say sue the bastards! :p

Hahah, Mr. Mackey is the best.

im going to  make a palace out of cocain lolz

I feel a strong urge to comment on this thread, as there is a ton of misinformation and misunderstandings, particularly regarding psychiatric medications like Prozac, but I am too tired. Suffice it to say that:

1) Everything is a risk/benefit ratio; this fact applies to over the counter meds, herbal "supplements" and typical pharmaceuticals. Every known substance has adverse effects and one takes it/them because benefit/gain outweights the risk/adverse effects.

2)Marijuana has now been researched more than in the past. Without referencing alcohol or other drugs, new research shows that when marijuana is ingested, most users lose, on average, about 20 IQ points. This loss is temporary. There are no long term longitudinal studies. The new research is based on the new marijuana, which has significantly higher cannibanoid/THC content than weed from, say, the 60s, 70s, 80s, or even 90s. (Again, these facts cannot be contradicted by "Well alcohol is poison.")

so your saying you smoke this stuff

No... he doesn't say that once.

I hate Paxil; I rarely prescribe it unless a patient really wants it. Some people are very sensitive to medications. Again, there is always a risk/benefit and your case is an excellent example of the side effects outweighing any benefit. I am not sure what type of "hallucination(s)" you had. Have you tried any other SSRIs besides Paxil?

Okay I have been reading inbetween the lines here and I have come to the conclusion that madglee is a doctor/nurse.

YOu know what would really suck if they leagalized pot in america because they would tax the crap out of it and it would be to ewxpensive.

This is true. haha  But it'd be worth it for smokers and non-smokers alike.  Non-smokers get the benefit of an additional source of revenue for their state, and smokers get to chill out and watch Spongebob in peace... which is all they really want :p

*sigh*, Oh spongebob of old, why did thou leave me? Oh right, your writer got fired.

Worst decision they ever made... ever.