Hello hello hello! As the topic suggests this thread will be about your ultimate plan for surviving the imminent zombie invasion that may or may not happen in our lifetimes. So users of this site I humbly ask you to outline how you expect to survive should a zombie outbreak occur.
To put it simply: wat's ur zombie planz?
And btw purposely infecting yourself to infect/eat/kill someone you don't like doesn't count. Besides if that is your zombie plan then i think you might need some help.
My zombie plan will be revealed if people show interest
Plan 1: Bullet in the brain. This would only happen if I'm positively sure that there is a zombie outbreak (as in zombies in the yard). Most of the long-term plans I've heard that sound half-way possible are plans I'm not cut out for.
Plan 2: Bass Pro Shops. As Ugi knows, there is a large Bass Pro Shops fairly far away from any residential nieghborhoods. If I lack the courage for Plan 1, I'll make my way there as quickly as possible. There is enough food in the shop portion alone to feed a group of 3 or 4 people for months, let alone in the storage portion. There is also a large amount of guns and ammo in the store (For those of you who don't have one, BPS is basically a hunting shop that sells guns, camo, food, boats, plus a bunch of other things not even closely related to hunting.), along with the books on how to make your own ammo and I'm assuming the supplies to do so.
I can see 4 potential problems with Plan 2.
1. BPS is literally on the other side of town, so I'm assuming that there will be abandoned cars on the road (there's normally not much traffic here, but if zombies are swarming or evacuations are going slowly, I wouldn't be surprised if people abandoned their cars for their feet) so I may not be able to drive far, even though I have a fairly good knowledge of back roads around here (it helps with red lights). So it would take forever to walk there, especially if there are zombies and I'm carrying gear.
2. I have to assume that if I can think of this, so can anyone else. Therefor, there might be several groups already at BPS, and they might be violent. So, if they even let me in, I may be forced to resort to life as a violent raider. That, however, is very unlikely so I'll probably just be turned away to conserve supplies.
3. The BPS is incredibly large (there's even a fish pond in the middle, one more source of food I guess), so a group of 3 or 4 like I said would probably have a large time making it defensable by boarding up the windows and making barriers out of the doors. As it is, there are two sets of incredibly heavy wood and glass doors that open electronically when you step on a pressure pad, so if I can disable that feature somehow I would just have to board up the glass that's reachable to make it defensable. If the internet is still accessable (I don't know how it's broadcasted, so I don't know why, how, or when it would go down).
4. As you can imagine, BPS is pretty popular, so there may be more than a few zombies in there if no one else had taken over the store. The only gun I actually own is a .22 rifle (the rest my father owns, even though I don't actually know if this one is in my name), which can't actually penetrate the skull unless you practically get an eye shot, seeing as you can't rely on a Zombie dying from destroyed organs, at least not from the myths/stories, or pain or bleeding out, that's all I'd be able to kill them with.I also have a small baseball bat that's half the size of my arm, but that might not do much.
But other than that, I havn't put any thought into it.
Although though a bycicle is a pretty good idea for post-apocalyptic scenario, I have two problems.
1. It takes a lot of energy to operate, so you may not be able to be 'bycicling across country roads" for long without getting tired. After a while, though, you'd probably have incredibly strong calfs if that makes you feel better.
2. There's nothing stopping a zombie from leaning over and taking a hunk out of you while you're stopped or even trying to pass one.
Arnt you gonna find yourself a hand cannon?
If we're talking about an actual zombie apocalypse I'm pretty sure it's okay to just bust a window and take some food as long as nobody's around with a shotgun.
Of course most stores will have been picked clean already
Basically I would just grab my emergency gear (first scratching out the words 'hurricane box' and replacing it with 'zombie box') and guns and haul ass for my grandparents' property by the creek and hole up there until the situation is dealt with. (or isn't, if it's like every movie ever...I like to give the military a little more benefit of the doubt in real life though) There's also an old friend of the family that lives close to there that has an actual basement (kind of a rarity in this area), but holing up like that is always a last resort, I think keeping as manueverable as possible is best in a zombie situation.
The real issue would be the river bridge that's a chokepoint out of town in that direction, but I'm saving up for a kayak right now, and I could always ditch my truck and get across on that if the road was too jammed up with abandoned vehicles/the living dead/whatever.
Of course the REAL real issue would be what to do about all of my elderly relatives, but we are always lone action heros in these situations so best not to dwell on it right?
...also I'd probably have to shoot my indoor kitty and that would depress the hell out of me. :(
Or you can chop them up and later use them as bait for the zombies.
Oh silly, naive, Guanyin. If you really care about "people" make sure that as many survive as possible, mainly by eliminating the factors that kills the rest. If you really care about Grandma, put a bullet in her brain because right now you're damning her to wandering the land a mindless zombie, killing those she once loved.
It's an indoor cat. She can't fend for herself. Also she has kidney problems and needs regular treatment.
And sorry but no I'm not going to shoot grandma, if the zombies are cured/destroyed and order is restored a week later I would feel pretty dumb, wouldn't I? Also I will be shooting the fuck out of all grandma's cows and eating them so I would think that evens things out.
I also won't be shooting anybody who gets bitten unless I see actual proof that that 100% turns you into a zombie every time, I mean jeez it's not that hard to lock them up somewhere and why are we just assuming everything works exactly like the movies?
Dont shoot all the cow's then where will you get milk?
Yeah...no. In all likelihood is that if zombies can evolve, so can their method of transmission. e.g. Airbourne infections.
Well if we're thinking it out that far you have to consider that there might be a few people naturally immune to the disease that later can be used to develop a vaccine. But whoops, now they're dead. Because you shot them like, two seconds after they got bitten when they weren't even showing symptoms.
I would sure hate to live in Texas during a zombie outbreak. I'm sure that "you" you're referring to is George Bush jr.
No, I changed my mind. Dick Chaney, 4sure!
Really? We're still making these jokes? In 2011?
I would only mercy kill someone if the only other option was to lock them in a basement.
Your basement, I mean.
But then they will become basement dwellers, thats worse than being a zombie, ask endmaster he wrote a whole story about it.
I'll grab a bat, supllies and pack them up in my duffel. I'm a pretty good hand to hand fighter, took classes and i work out regulary. Won't be hard to bash in a skull if needed..
But, i'll keep my radio on hand and try to contact a group of personal friends. Once i've told them to meet to a afe location if they're isn't a hotzone i'll keep hidden. I'm sure it'll be a riot since i live in the city so im sure i wont have to worry about the zombies, just crazy drivers that might crash into me..
Once i've reached the area myself, I'll go to my friends house. Has a neat hunting collection and were both close friends, I'm usaually the leader so i'll take point..
I know the rodes would probaly be fucked so im heading for a bike also, Usually leave it at his garage so im sure we'll be safe. Who ever rides on back would have to shoot if needed as we ride.
It's going to be very much needed to stick away from the millitary, I'm not sure but whenever there's a outbreak in vide games, take Left for Dead for example they never tell the fate of the surviors.
It's said they'll try to test and expierment on you so i'll just listen out for my radio on surviors and use gps on foot, If one of my friends are bitten them im sure i wont hesitate to kill them, probaly lose my sanity but i'll be good..
I'm not sure what else i'll do after that, sure there's plenty of holes in my terrible plan but you'll never know what lurks behind the corner, you're never safe.
it's an ... ok plan.
1. Hand to hand combat is brutally effective against human targets, but no so much against zombies. In most stories and movies (which is the only thing we have to go off of) they don't feel pain nor do they technically need bones, although a few broken legs will make it harder for them to catch you.
2. I highly doubt your ability to crush the human skull, I'm cool with the concept of flesh rotting without reproducing cells, but I think bone strength will stay the same, even though I'm exactly an expert on the subject. Let's say you have the brutal force required to crack, penetrate, and eventually crush the skull causing the brain to be destroyed, by the time you do the zombies probably gone Omnomnom somewhere on your body, which is all they really need to do. Plus, by then you've probably already broken a hand, shattered an elbow, etc. while trying to crush the skull, so even if they didn't bite you, you're fucked.
3. I forgot to add it, but my plan was to wait untill the army arrives. I know that movies like to paint them as the bad guys because it sells tickets, but these are Americans protecting Americans. At the very least they are fellow human beings who probably don't exactly relish the thought of slaughtering a bunch of innocents. Plus, I would guess that local militias or wandering groups would be volunteered to help the army, which could be either a good thing or bad thing when they might know you, or they could be inexperienced and jumpy and shoot you on site.
A baseball bat will smash a skull very easily.
" I'm a pretty good hand to hand fighter, took classes and i work out regulary. Won't be hard to bash in a skull if needed.." I thought he meant with his hands, my bad lol.
He might have, but his baseball bat should do that job much better, haha.
This is adorable. You're adorable.
Looks like i forgot to add a little more details... anyways here is some things that should help.
First and foremost the only warning you get is the basically the form of riots happening in major cities with the people having some sort of virus or disease that causes the zombification process to occur. Let's say 24hrs notice.
These zombies have lost major motor functions are actually quite slow (Res. Evil) at first but after about a week they learn to use their legs better and become fast zombies (28 Days Later, Zombieland).
Finally let's assume that you live in a suburb on the city limits of a highly populated city (Ex. NYC, LA, etc.)
Now with that being said here is my zombie plan.
Step 0 (yes there is a step 0, basically this is the step before the zombie attacks start.)
Stay in shape and stockpile some emergency supplies in an easily carried backpack.
Step 1
I plan to barricade myself in my house after hopefully having a successful looting of a store that stocks guns.
Step 2
After staying in my barricaded house fending off the zombies for a couple weeks I;m going to make an escape from the house with either an armored car that i just so happen to have looted as well but more than likely I will escape using a normal car. I will then immediately flee the area and head to a more rural one.
Step 3
After successfully fleeing the city I will build (or find) shelter. It will most likely be a house that is supported on stilts that has a zipline to somewhere else in case of being overrun. I plan to stay in this shelter for as long as possible or until I find a group of survivors and to help make a safe haven leading to step 4
Step 4
Establish a last hope haven for wandering (zombie disease free) survivors. Those that are infected will be shot on sight, no exceptions. This may seem cruel and harsh but there won't be a cure for a while and we can't keep zombies in our midst if we want to live.
Step 5
After the haven is established I will live out my days as it's leader (hopefully) guiding it to prosperity until I either commit suicide due to the Alt. Step or until I die of natural causes.
Alt. Step
If at any time I become infected I will waste absolutely no time in blowing my brains out to help save humanity from at least one more zombie.
Finally I'd like to say that during most of these steps I will be constantly scavenging and looting for ammo, first aid (if necessary), food, fuel, and water.
I would put my other 36 plans but that's not necessary ;)
http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html
http://www.cracked.com/article/136_5-reasons-you-secretly-want-zombie-apocalypse/
You're plan seems good and awesome!
So the completely standard tactic? ok thats cool.
Actually, it's called reading the Zombie Survival Guide :P
Heres a link to an online version of the Zombie Survival Guide.
http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Zombie+Survival+Guide+-+Max+Brooks
Lol, I thought you asked for our Zombie plans. That's how you plan for something, you know the landmarks around you, otherwise it will be as vague as "I'm going to go the nearest gun store and loot everything!"
;P
At the gym...and have what, confuse the zombies with your phermones? Zombie dog?
Go watch I Am Legend now.
No, see, I own a Chihuahua/MinPin, so I'll kick some ass. Your big old wimpy dog won't do a thing.
I have a beagle, does that count for anything?
See Zombie Survial Guide for my plans.
Off topic, but I only just now noticed your avatar. :D
And JPlauge's if you notice his detailed plans.
If we were talking about left 4 dead zombies we'll all be screwed. A tank topples cars and can put out huge slabs of rock from thin air.
That would be handy, I could finally have that mindless army I always dreamed of! Or I could get eaten alive, hit or miss.
If they can learn to use tools what's keeping them from learning not to eat people and demanding the right to vote then?
Zombies would care enough to cast a vote even if they could.
We TRAIN them to make a functional government. All problems solved.
I'm not sure their cut out to be much else.
Not exactly "morally questionable" when one of them's eating your face off.
To be honest though, i have actually thought about a Zombie's rights activist group.
*Sneaks off to create left 4 dead story instead of working on Rpg* ;P
Depends, you think it's morally wrong not to shoot someone in order to save your group, yet you say that you are for the people, that's just not compatable.
The problem with any zombie scenario is that so much stuff just doesn't make sense unless you explain it away as magic. How do the zombies not starve after awhile, how do they even move if their brains and muscles are rotting, let alone have super speed and strength, etc. If you really get to thinking about it from a biological standpoint you could go on and on. But if you're using the virus approach then basically, like Guanyin says the question becomes, is it okay to kill a sick, brain damaged person who is very violent?
I would say 'yes, if they're actively trying to gnaw you or someone else's face off' but I understand if someone disagrees...though I really think at some point the ol' survival instinct would kick in and maybe change your mind.
Though of course if it's a friend or family member you may not be able to bring yourself to do it (doubly so in an infection scenario, where they're still acting like themselves right up until the last moment...surely you wouldn't be able to shake the hope that they might be okay no matter what the odds. Unless you're the type that believes in killing people with cancer too...)
I always kind of roll my eyes at the internet tough guy 'oh yes I would totally blow my best friend away without hesitation' response. Believe it or not I've actually had a similar discussion with a cousin before. A guy who is squeamish about killing a mouse...and yet he's apparently convinced he can instantly turn into the Road Warrior the second civilization shows a sign of collapsling.
So, how'd you like to write a new story...
A good ending cannot exist, in which evil is allowed to live.
Its unfortunate, but evil ruins all that is around it. Things do not tread water, they either grow, or diminish.
Eh, sometimes you have to play as the evil person, what happens then?
Evil shall be called good, and good shall be called evil. haha
There are stories with happy endings, once all the evil is gone. Lord of the rings for example.
My bad, of course not ALL EVIL was or would be destroyed but its the reduction of it or the triumph of good that brings about the happy ending.
Episode 4 a new hope was happy because Hope was restored, hope that the evil could be defeated. good point though. Fight club does not have a happy ending.
I beleive that no person is completly correct. In everything I say I expect there to be small errors.
I'm saying that everyone writes with errors, because people arnt perfect.
Batman refuses to kill the Joker, and I think has even saved his life a couple of times. This is very noble and admirable on his part, but given that the Joker has shown that Arkham is basically a revolving door and he can just escape and murder hundreds of people again and again, at some point does Batman become morally culpable for all of the people that have died because of his inaction?
Discuss.
I think this has been discussed before.
Would you rather want to go play a storygame where you skip down the yellow brick road with you woodland friends in order to get back to your dirtfarming aunt so you can live in extreme poverty but at least you're with your family so it's all ok?
You know what? Don't answer that.
For now, I'm going to play games that doesn't include having my family killed because I refused to protect them.
So, according to you one death means you're going to shoot your entire family, so lets work with that. Say morally, would you rather have your entire family killed without pain, or have a chunk of flesh ripped from your body (doesn't sound pleasant), slowly succomb to Zombieism after struggling through a painful sickness, only to bite other members of your family so they can repeat the cycle?
"But, shooting grandma is having your family killed. You mean protect the rest of your family? What happens with your sister gets bitten next? Kill her, too, I suppose. Eventually you've shot everyone in your family. To protect them. Hmm, maybe they should have been protected from you?" It's almost as if you've made a logical error by limiting me down to one option when there are many, many more options to choose from. That almost sounds familiar...
Gee, if we have more than one choice, then maybe we won't kill everyone in our group because we are "morally willing" to do so. Yes, I would like to say I would kill someone in my group to save the rest, but I havn't been in such a situation so I'll just say that it's our logical and moral responsibility to do so.
So you're not willing to kill someone you love to spare them from being a zombie and having them just be brutally cut down by others anyway, but your willing to let others become zombified because you don't want people to die?
That's just hypocritical BS.
Look, I'm running off 4 hours of sleep again (second time this month), so I'll make this frank. It's easy to say we'll do the Disney thing and find a way to save everybody without having to take a life, and at the most just fire our guns in the air without hitting anybody to get more ticket sales, but we won't.
The point is that don't act like your doing the right thing, when your willing to let others die for no reason.
Not neccesarily in that order.
Ide say they hit two birds with one stone there, They kill you, by eating you.
But you took it in the wrong direction.
Your respecting something that can't appreciate you back?
I'm sure i can blow my friend away (no homo) without hestation! I'm insane in the brain, insane in the brain! ;P *Killed before*
Oh, god there is something wrong with me, Ive been laughing non stop for an hour now. This just set me over the top, I can barely type. Ide be wurried if I could stop laughing.
Eh, I'd say it's 50/50. The difference would be being a zombie with no control over your mind or body or a retard with moderate to no control over your mind or body (considering the symptoms).
Of course, my first plan is a bullet in the brain anyway, Bass Pro Shops is just a plan B, as I said in my plan.
And crows, I'm still scared from that one resident evil movie <_<>_>
wow, i spent 30 minutes reading this whole conversation
