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Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

"Honestly, my thought in the medical room, I was sitting in the corner and was like, 'What am I anymore if I'm not this?'" Rousey said. "Literally sitting there thinking about killing myself. In that exact second, I'm like, 'I'm nothing. What do I do anymore? No one gives a s--- about me anymore without this.'"

"I looked up and saw my man, Travis, was standing there," Rousey said. "I'm looking up at him and was just like, 'I need to have his babies. I need to stay alive.'"

My wife is pissed at Ronda Rousey for "setting back feminism."  She's supposed to be the poster girl for badass alpha females, and first, she claims to have considered killing herself because she lost a fight, and then she comes out with basically:

"Oh, well, now that I'm done with that fighting stuff, I can get on with my real purpose in life, being a wife and mother."

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First of all, people throw around "oh I considered suicide" way too casually. But that's another discussion.

Also, my wife hates the phrase "have his babies."  She thinks it should at least be "our babies."  

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I mean, sometimes I think society pushes a little too hard on women that they have to be engineers and athletes.  It should be okay to want to get married and have kids.  It just shouldn't be all you want from life. 

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

"I need to have his babies."  something someone on Maury would say.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Can she not still kick ass after having babies, or?...

I mean, you shouldn't really make any real person into a poster for anything. They're human, they aren't ideals incarnate. It's natural for someone to want to settle down and have kids at some point, whether they're male or female, and if you're really into what you're doing, it probably won't stop you from doing it. She might have a comeback, like that guy in the MMA movie where he has to fight his brother to provide for his kids. Y'know, the one with Emma in it from Once Upon a Time...

If they really want a poster person for female badassery, why can't they move on to the lady who beat her? Or Women's MMA in general? I mean, society gets to be fickle about everything else they care about, why get hung up over one thing Ronda says after she quits?

EDIT: Oh, damn, Warrior was the name of the movie! Now I remember.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

I’ve kind of heard conflicting things about her.

But I kind of got the impression that due to her fighting fame, she’s managed to gain general fame and move into other areas of entertainment (Like say acting in movies) and at this point it’s a case of where she’s thinking “Hey I could do that (and have babies) instead of getting my head kicked in because it really sucks when you lose.”

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

I'm a little disappointed. She's got at least another twenty years before menopause hits, so baby-making should be the least of her concerns, especially since she can just have science-majors whip up some Rhonda-Trevor embryos and freeze 'em to account for the off-chance that she dies.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

If she does die doing this, then that'd solve all her aforementioned problems since she would then be "this" forever. My guess is that she just really doesn't like pain and she's more interested in doing less pain/Parkinson's/O.J. Schizo/Football Depression/Paralysis-inducing things now, like Endmaster said.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

If she doesn't like pain, then why would she start doing MMA? Her parents were both fighters; her mother frequently BJJ-ed the shit out of her. It's not like she entered the sport ignorant of the pain she would feel.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

I think it's safe to say nobody in MMA likes pain. They like winning, and losing is something that sucks major cock. Way more than usual, she landed in the goddamn hospital. She doesn't want to lose anymore, so she's aiming to do other shit these days.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago
While anyone who is seriously considering suicide should seek professional help, this just came off as completely and utterly pathetic to me. What kind of example is this for her fans and people who look up to her?

"Well, kids, as soon as you fail you need to just give up and slice your wrists. You're a worthless piece of human garbage that has no meaning for existence... but wait, no. Hold off on the slashing if you have a working set of ovaries so you can bless some man with children." She should have kept going and added, 'Hopefully there is a boy in there, otherwise you'll have to go the way of Anne Boleyn and deliver him your head in a flower basket as an apology.'

There's nothing wrong with wanting to get married, have kids and be a stay at home mom (or dad). But that's a little sad if it's the only goal you have for life that's keeping you from diving into a piranha tank.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago
I didn't see this reply until just now as I was writing my own response... But concerning your last sentence, please don't judge so harshly... some of us only become that way because of necessity. How else are you supposed to feel if you have no one who cares about you, and you just failed miserably at the only thing you are good at? (Although, Rhonda shouldn't have felt that way as she does have someone by her side....)

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago
I can hardly equate losing a bout to a talented and well respected fighter to having 'failed miserably.'

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago
(I was actually referring to myself failing miserably...) When you put it like that, yeah, she probably shouldn't be that depressed.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago
In my view, you can only fail miserably at something if you quit without cause. Often, we have to abandon things out of necessity. Sometimes we genuinely lose interest or want to devote more time to another activity. But if you put effort into something, and continue to strive to improve, you can never fail miserably, in my book. Sure, you can still be bad. But improvement is hardly failure. Never give up on yourself.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago
Well, okay. When I first read that, I really started to arguing in my head that you don't understand, (maybe even shed a tear, but that's besides the point) but now yeah, I see what you mean. It's not really that you failed miserably, just that you FEEL utterly miserable that you failed. Actually, I just had a major set back and slap to the face... And I won't ever give up, which is why I'm still here and still kicking and still probably aggravating everyone cause I "talk" too much. Lol.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago
Wow, I just noticed this post. I've been doing some of my freelancing stuff and haven't been on here as often as I usually am... I feel so out-of-loop, but I can't believe she's quitting. (I haven't been watching tv anymore as business is picking up.) I do actually kinda understand where she's coming from though. When you realize you no longer want to do the only thing you know or previously cared about, sometimes you just give up. You become so depressed you just give in and settle for something much less than your aims in life. You just don't care anymore and want to hold on to something solid (such as kids or a spouse.) I did the same thing when I was married. I couldn't write or persue my one dream in life due to financial ciircumstances and personal tragedy, so I just settled. My own family didn't care about me, so I decided to make my own. I ended up married for seven years to an narcissistic asshole who beat me. But I didn't care enough to leave. I was like 'well, at least I have kids or at least I'm not single and lonely.' Boy, was I deluding myself....

Anyways, I hate that she decided to do that! I wish no one would just settle. Sure, maybe she doesn't want to fight anymore, but I'm sure has other dreams besides "having his kids." I hope she picks herself back up and shakes that depression off quickly before it's too late to change her mind....

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Honestly, I hate to see people get picked apart and criticized for things like this. She's famous for being really, really good at what she does but she's still her own person with her own feelings and her own issues just like anyone else. Her life is her own and no one else's, especially a bunch of random people on the internet's.

It really bugs me sometimes how public figures get treated as less than human. 'oh why are they doing this when they SHOULD be doing that, how dare they say words I don't approve of' and so on. Not aiming this at anyone in particular but it really does just make me want to go 'fuck you, why is it any of your business what another person does, and by the way what are YOU doing with your life and what would the internet say you should be doing instead?'

I've just seen swarms of people who get so nasty and spiteful and rage so hard like it's some kind of personal betrayal when anyone even remotely famous does anything they don't like, and I just have to wonder how any one of those people would feel about getting put up in front of a camera and having every word they say, and everything they've ever said online or how they do their job or get along with their family picked apart and scrutinized and criticized by a million strangers.  
 

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

... And this is why people shouldn't look up to celebrities as role-models. Chances are, your local mail man is a lot more mentally stable, drinks a lot less and takes a lot less drugs and is far less likely to kill himself then the average celebrity, so why not make them your role-model instead? ^_^

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Nah, she's not just a celebrity, she's a badass mma fighter. Inherently she becomes a symbol of badass women, ha ha.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Mail men/women can be badass too.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Yeah but they arent on tv lol

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Well they should be!

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

So, wait, all the mailmen I see on TV aren't real mailmen?!?

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Oh gosh yes.  I used to work with an ex-mailman who was in a biker gang on weekends, and he only had one eye because he'd been shot in the face by another mailman.  Mail carriers are definitely badass.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Nobody should have to live their life a certain way to appease the fun-sucking Neo-Socialists  feminism. 

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

To me, a life where to not have any other reasons for living apart from 'having his babies' is quite a sad and pathetic kind of life - and by saying this, I'm not being condescending. But I don't think this is anything anti-feminist. Rather, just a person who's looking for an object of security and safety in a life of disappointments. To the people picking apart her words, it's her business and it shouldn't affect anyone in any major way. She's not the poster girl, and to be a poster anything is a setup for eventual disappointment.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago
Feminism killed femininity. Women now are only praised if they act like men.

The irony is overwhelming.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Feminism is not about acting like men. It's about the freedom to have any genderal traits you want to have without being pressured to act a certain way. Irony is overused these days.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Except for the fact that Rousey is being attacked by feminists for choosing to do what she wants. It's ceased to have anything to do with equality. 

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Oh I see what you mean now, sorry bout that. Of course ideally, everything's dandy. But in real life, nothing really works out that way.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Exactly. I'd say it's kind of like enforcing gender roles in a new, roundabout fashion if women are actively forced by angry internet people to do things they don't want to do, simply because women weren't allowed to do it in the 1800s. People should be allowed to do things if they want. To say it reinforces oppression because people stop doing something they don't want in favor of something they do, even if it doesn't align with one's political views, is kind of silly. No one should be forced to be a housewife, and no one should be forced to be an MMA fighter. She's now done both because she wants to, and that's brilliant. Nobody's forcing her to do anything.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago
I feel like some feminists look down on women that don't aspire to attain 'important' career positions in the workplace. I don't think that's right either.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Egalitarianism > Feminism. 

They're no longer the same thing. 

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Couldn't agree more.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

Femininity is not dead.  The massive amounts of cash Disney makes off their princess stuff beg to differ.

Also the ridiculous pinkification of America. 

Women still have to be pretty and fashionable and caring and above all else find fulfillment in the production and care of offspring.

But now they also have to be engineers and scientists and doctors and just as good if not better than men at everything.

Ronda Rousey

9 years ago

I dunno. Sometimes, when you become a public figure, you kinda lose that freedom of choice. If you end up taking a mantle, you gotta be careful with what you say. Obama can't go around talking in ebonics, yeah?. Since they kinda symbolize their people (even if that shouldnt be the case), and they need to watch what they say.

But, it's also their choice if They use ghetto slang and are miserly, yeah? And it's an issue in our society that when we see a public figure we ascribe all their negatives onto their race/sex/religion (and generally none or very little of their positives). 

So yeah, while yes, it's entierly her perogative to feel fulfillment with having children, it's unfortunate that [as a public person] she kinda makes it seem like all she really should do is be a mom and being a badass was a waste of time. (Though, in truth, the bigger issue is that she espressed that losing=suicide. Thats a horrible mentality, and in her position, she's making a lot of young girls feel that same way.)