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So if you watch horror movies, do you watch them to be genuinely scared or do you just watch them for the body count? 

Are you actually identifying with any of the potential victims or are you just rooting for the psycho to kill as many as possible?

I always root for the bad guy in generally every movie, it's why I enjoy films like Goodfellas, Scarface and The Godfather so much. In terms of horror movies if everyone survives you know it's a shit movie, but if everyone gets fucking rekt then it's a good movie, therefore always root for the psycho.

Yeah, pretty much always rooting for the bad guys too. Not always, but most of the time. At least as far as horror and crime movies go. And yeah, a total party kill is usually desired.

Just thought about this question, since they were talking about annoying cliches in general over at CoG and someone mentioned they didn't like the Saw movies since the nice characters get screwed over and nobody works together and all it leaves are the asshole victims to identify with and they didn't like stories where you have to identify with the assholes.

All I was thinking is, "I'm supposed to be identifying with the victims in these movies? I thought I was supposed to be rooting for Jigsaw."

I agree with rooting for Jigsaw, i just want all these fucking people to die brutally. I'd also prefer to identify with the assholes, I find their characters to be much more believable, they also normally are the ones willing to do anything to survive, that makes sense to me.

... Believe it or not, there are people in this world who put the lives of others above their own even in those situations. And on a regular basis. It doesn't have to make sense.

I think you both miss the main point of the Saw movies. After the first one they were simply repetitive crap.

The first one was a new idea, a new re-envisioning of a genre. After that is was just "Lets skip any pretense at an interesting plot and have gore and gruesome death over and over". This bored and lost me instantly as it was just gore-porn and again, boring.

Actually I didn't think too highly of the first Saw movie since it felt like a Seven clone. Wasn't until the 2nd and 3rd one I started enjoying the movies more since they were tying an over arching plot between all the movies together.

Though I sort of lost interest after Jigsaw was dead and stopped watching the series after the 4th one because it just got too ridiculous with the concept that he planned a bunch of shit out in the event of his death and I didn't really care about "his successor". They should've just left it as a trilogy.

Ah, Seven, that was a good movie

Horror movies for me are...difficult to explain. I enjoy getting scared, and like to visualize what I'd do in the characters' situation. I also have a sickly desire for the psycho to brutally butcher his/her victims in as brutal a fashion as possible. I've never really kept a body count whilst watching - only on rare occasions.

Horror movies are never really scary, since you know it's all fake. I never root for anyone in them since in the majority of them the spunky girl always seems to become some sort of warrior babe and ends up kicking ass or they all get killed and it's just like "Okay, bring in some more dumbass kids to kill."

Trouble is that modern day horror movies tend to be shitty and not too focused on the killing as an art form. More concerned with showing us some weird children or something like that.

I do agree that a good horror film has to kill off all the people though.

Sounds like you'd have mixed emotions on Corpse Party, then. 

Is that a story on this site?

@Balthazar

Horror game series but has been played as RP here a few times. 

www.corpsepartypsp.com/

Ah right, thanks for the notification.

Your welcome, also nice to meet you. :)

Thanks, you too. :)

@Jibble

I was referring more-so to the anime adaptation, since a lot more people die and it's way more gruesome (at the cost of story, but if you play the game you understand what happens when).

@Delta44 

Nope, literally typed up corpse party and got that, no clue what the fuck it is besides that. XD

Ayumi is so fucking useless that I want to scream.

Both. Ayumi is the biggest fuck up aside from Naomi. It's why I hate them both with a passion. 

I don't usually identify with anyone in horror films since the characters are usually crap. Just watch it for the splatter or the interesting (but non-sensical) plot.

The interesting plot of 'Let's get stoned and screw and then die in a shower of disembodied tits...' Made famous by about ooh let's say all the horror films. Only real good thing about them is the boobage.

Mmmm.... boobies

Yeah, big fake titties haha.

I love horror movies.  I hate the ones that are nothing but a bunch of boring idiots being killed by a boring psycho.

Depends on how it's done. 

What's a  good example then?

Not even Hannibal?

tv show or movies?

The movie was a more popular romanticizer. 

Cos eating people's faces is sure romantic... if that was the gist of what you were saying.

*brains.

While they're still talking to your initial victim.

Anyways, to romanticize something isn't to make it romantic in the conventional way.  It means the same thing as if you were white washing something, like Mandela.

Ah, right. My apologies for misunderstanding.

Hannibal isn't boring.

Silence of the Lambs was fantastic (will prolly read the book later). Dunno if it is actually defined as 'horror' though.

I enjoy a good horror movie, for some reason it makes me feel calm and all warm and fuzzy inside.  I always root for that hysterical squeaky, crying character to die first.  Has anyone ever been that melodramatic?

I do enjoy it when the annoying one dies, in the most gruesome way possible.

Right. It's the most satisfying.

As for EndMaster's question, I think I'm a little bit of both. I'd like to root for the best characters to win and the antagonist at the same time, though I watch horror movies to be creeped out... meaning I don't watch horror movies to see Chucky strangle a four year old.

If Chucky actually strangled a 4 year old in any of his movies, that might have improved them.

i am looking for the blonde chick who's going to trip and fall then crawl and die

Yep, there's always one of them as well. Once saw her combine this trope with the topless one.

I tend to watch horror movies to either:

A) Get scared as shit

B) See how over the top the gore can get

C) Wonder how they made such gore

D) Look at how many bad guys the hero can kill before either falling himself or the credits roll

Or E) Scare friends for kicks during and after the movie

For all of you who experience feelings of the latter, this movie might be for you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZG6CxsO2rI

I saw bits and pieces of this one and I know I saw the ending of it. Reminded me of one those SciFi channel movies or something by The Asylum.

Hmm... Funnily enough, neither. I think I watch horror films when they look like they've got a really gripping story and my favorites are always the ones with a really interesting twist at the end. I'm not really keen on gorey horror films and usually films involving zombies or aliens or where the bad guy is a person don't scare me.

The only films I find genuinely scary involve ghosts (especially if the ghost is a child for some reason.) But with those sorts of films I do tend to find the ghosts a lot more interesting than the living characters, and I really want to find out more about the ghost's history, how they died and why they're sticking around to kill people.

That said, when I do watch films like Saw or Dawn of the Dead or anything that involves a group of people trying to survive, I do see it as more of a Hunger Games/Battle Royale kind of scenario where I'm really curious to find out who's going to survive and how... That said I always roll my eyes when it's predictable who survives at the end. I prefer for the survivor to be a cool side character that you kind of suspected was going to die, but hoped wasn't.

@Briar_Rose Have you seen "the orphanage?" Or "the devils backbone?" 

I also liked "one missed call" (Japanese version)

Nah, not seen those... But I've heard that Devil's Backbone is really good. I'll put them on my to watch list ^_^

You might want to watch the film Maniac, it's pretty good. Plus, you get to see Frodo scalping bitches, it's awesome.

I liked the original Maniac better since the other guy was more menacing, though Frodo still did a good job at being creepy in different way.

I'll check it out. What I liked about the newer film was that it's the first movie to capture my attention that well in such a long time. Plus, the earlier mentioned scalping of bitches by Frodo. 

Briar mentioned liking "child ghosts," is why I suggested those.

For the laughs. (#evildead #tuckeranddaleversusevil). Non-comedy horror movies are lame, ha ha. 

Shawn of the Dead's my fave ^_^

xD I love that movie! But their other one, Hot Fuzz, was still better.

Agreed ^_^

See, I think I've laughed at more horror movies that probably weren't supposed to be funny than I have at horror movies that were.

A valid point. Eh, maybe I should give the genre more of a chance.

The original Evil Dead wasn't supposed to be funny (though it was).

Sometimes the best movies are inadvertently funny. *COUGH CONAN COUGH* 

... Honestly, I don't. I can never find a horror flick that's interesting enough and if I just wanted to see blood, surgery is where I'd go, not the movie theaters. Seeing people picked apart and put back together in real life is more interesting to me and doesn't involve a crappy pretense of what barely passes for a plot. If I wanted to see death in general, I'd just work a few more shifts than usual at the job I already have. I see people die all the damn time. It has no appeal for me.

It also doesn't scare me. You have to be invested in a story or in the characters to get scared for them and I'm just ... not. Sure, you might be able to make me jump if you convinced me we weren't watching a horror flick and something sufficiently shocking happened without any of the god awful "foreshadowing" horror movies use, but being surprised is not the same as being scared, which is something a lot of people don't realize.  

 The times when I have seen horror flicks? I didn't root for either of them. They just weren't that compelling. Sure, psychos are fun and occasionally you get a character who seems genuinely likeable, but the former are a dime a dozen so it means little to me and the latter is too rare for it to be much of a blip on my radar. 

... What the hell is your job? 

Well ... in all fairness, I have two jobs since I work at two different facilities, but I've taken care of a lot of patients in critical condition, such as elderly people near the end of their lives and at the opposite end of the spectrum, I've got kids on ventilators. (My patient age range has gone from less than 1 to 104. I get around.) *sigh* I'm kind of bummed out at the moment, I just had to pass off the care of a very sweet, but very sick person today and the last words I heard out of him were that he was afraid he was about to die. =\

That's so sad. 

Yeah... *sigh*

Go watch a snuff film.

It's actually pretty hard to find films about powdered tobacco.

I googled "Snuff films". Don't google it. Whatever you do... 

*Clappin intensifies.*

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO YOURSLEF, BRAD!? YOU FUCKING MORON. 

It's about people actually dying on-screen.

From snorting too much powdered tobacco

I used to watch A LOT of horror movies. I watched them for a mix of plot types you couldn't get in other genres, the ability to route for either the bad guy or the good guy depending on mood and the chance of being scared and kept guessing until right at the end as to what was going to happen

I absolutely loved certain ones but often got disappointed by stupid movies being spammed out like the later Saw movies, Hostel movies etc. they devolved into Gore-porn with no real plots of twists and so bored me out of my mind.

I turned more to eastern cinema with Japanese and Korean horrors in particular. Sure I had to watch with sub-titles but they actually had a plot, suspense, originality and could even on occasion give me scares. They were awesome. They could also be just as gruesome as movies like Saw but in a way that fitted the plot. Most importantly you never know if the Evil will win or not, because half the time it does, none of the crap "Teen girl always survives in the end after overcoming her stereotypical fear and killing the baddy" crap

Love the original zombie series for the plot and how they made you think. Movies like R-Point and other Eastern ones too.

One of the worst (and I shouldn't have to spell it out for anyone) is the "Wrong Turn" movies.  To me it's just a bad adaptation of the video game "Redneck Rampage."  I've never felt that video game/movie crossovers were ever a good idea.

Edit:  And the "Final Destination" movies were gawdawful.  I mean, how often does someone 'pop' like a tick when falling down the stairs?

For a very brief period of time there actually was a rumor about a Redneck Rampage movie being made, but it of course never got off the ground.

I always thought if they had ever made one though, they would've used that "Hey Vern" guy as the star. The RR protagonist even looked a little like the actor.

He did look like Ernest P. Warrell.  I think the character might have been patterned after him.  Didn't he say "Mess with the bull, you get the horns" in one of his movies?

He probably did, but I only remember ever seeing bits and pieces of any of those Ernest movies when flipping through channels.

Yeah, I don't think I ever watched one straight through.  I guess they were geared more toward younger viewers and those more inclined to find bathroom humor funny.

I don't watch too much horror, but when I do, I sort of want the obligatory slut to die, but nobody else. XD

RUDE 

The slutty character always dies, Buttvein. 

Tea isn't dead just yet. Don't conform to horror movie normalities!

There's actually a horror movie called Cherry Falls where the killer is targeting virgins so all the high schooler end up organizing an orgy so they won't get killed.

Of course that's what the killer wanted all along.

... Genius!