a bunch of people have read it. but why is it your favorite? whats so cool about it? whats it about?
nate
thanks for the info. however, beware that we dont want the religion topic to cause controversy again. the point was just to ask what teh book was about.
not this thread too! oh boy. lets find other things to discuss other than religion around here please. we do have IMs for this kind of stuff.
Hi guys, first I want to say I am not aiming for religious controversy. As a person from a bookstore who has to learn about all the books being sold, especially the ones people ask about the most, I have had to learn about the Da Vince Code, and about Dan Brown. I'm a chistian, and I don't agree with much of the religious stuff in the book, but I still enjoyed the book as a work of FICTION. For those who don't know the difference between FICTION and NON-FICTION, one is about made up things, and one is about real things.
Firstly, Dan Brown is a christian, and he did not write the book as a piece of reality, but as a work of fiction - he did not write a book that was a factual account of actual events taking place. The characters are imaginary - the main character is not a real person. Like many novels set in modern times, it draws on real places, organisations, and religious beliefs, but that does not make what he writes about those things factual. For instance, they catch a train at a particular train station that goes to a certain location. In reality, if you went to France, and went to that train station, there is NO train that goes to where they were heading. However, he wanted the characters to go to that place, and they were near that train station, so he just did what most authors do, and wrote it in that way. In the French edition of the Da Vinci Code, they rewrote that part of the book so that people who lived in those areas wouldn't complain about it. An example of people reading 'truth' into 'fiction' is that there was a secret panel in an old cathedral that Dan Brown invented for his story. The secret panel doesn't exist at all - but a tourist went to the cathedral, and smashed the carved wall to try and find the panel - ruining a piece of history because they thought it must be there if it was written in his book!
The book is full of things where Dan Brown simply wrote something because it helped tell the story he had.
I further want to point out that Dan Brown himself said in interviews that he published the book as a work of FICTION, not as a real, historical account. Also said in an interview, that he was doing what most fiction authors do, coming up with events and characters that make a good story.
Too many people try to read facts into it, but what it boils down to, is wether you agree with the religious parts of the book, it was still just written to be an entertaining story. So I enjoyed the story, and I don't think there's anything wrong with anyone reading the book, but I'm not about to treat everything he wrote as facts.
I don't think Jesus married Mary Magdalene, but if he did, I wouldn't really have an a negative opinion on the matter. I heard on a TV show, someone speaking about the Da Vinci Code movie.
"it isn't a real story. Christians shouldn't be so offended. I think that if Jesus were here today, he'd probably go out and see it. He might even take the kids along.
By the way, Mary wasn't just 'chosen at random'. What, you think God is a MAG member.
If RANDOM=1 Go to the Virgin Mary
If RANDOM=2 Go to King Herod's wife
If RANDOM=3 Wait two thousand years and choose Paris Hilton.
Nup, doesn't sound like God would do that sort of thing. Just doesn't seem like his style.
is anyone here even qualified to even talk about hte bible? i mean seriously, whats the average age here? 15? PLEASE! unless you are a preacher who has studied the bible dont comment on what you "THINK" it says. read it and find out what it DOES say. as for the davinci code, either see it or not.
Actually, I'm 30, and have studied the bible, and was going to become a preacher at one point in my life, but I won't bore people with further discussion on this topic. Most people in this life stick to the opinions they already have, and aren't open to discussion anyhow :)
I agree with Nate though, people should really read up on things fully rather than taking other people's word for it - and if you're reading a book that gives a person's opinion on something, it's wise to make sure that there are more than one person (and book) that share the same opinion. Too many books say something is fact, when it is just the author's opinion that it is a fact, if you get what I mean. It's quite easy to make 'evidence' point to anything you want if you try hard enough.
well said. im 28 and thought i was the top of the ceiling. lol oh well. good points. too many people use the Washington effect. they hear something from either a friend or in school and take it as fact. then do absolutely no research and run with it.
i also know some friends that are "preachers" at that age. but my point was totally missed. who here has read the bible from cover to cover and could answer any question i throw at them? not a one i would guess. it takes a long time to read and to understand the bible in its full context. years. Billy Graham probably has to still think about a few questions. granted hes near death and probably not all there any more, but thats besides the point.
you cant read chapter 1 of War and Peace and be able to answer any question. you gotta read it all. besides, most people on here are just giving opinions. opinions are not fact, therefore my point was this... if you want to debate either the davincicode or the bible you should know it, not guess at it. and thats exactly what people are doing on this thread. just guessing.
(this is just a friendly debate, you might be right but no hardships over this).
1. you cant read chapter 1 of War and Peace and be able to answer any question
Yes thats very, very true but you can awnser questions about chapter one and thast exactly what were doing.
2. you gotta read it all
If the questions are about the rest of the book, then yes.
3. most people on here are just giving opinions.
Yes and? Whats wrong with that, almost all debates are opinions lined with fact. Which is exactly what weedy did.
4. opinions are not fact
Geeze, Im shocked.
5. therefore my point was this... if you want to debate either the davincicode or the bible you should know it, not guess at it
As long as you know teh relevant parts of the bible, your point is irrelevant.
6. and thats exactly what people are doing on this thread. just guessing
No, not true. Were interpreting.
first, no hardship over this taken. however, my point goes with your #6...
"Plus, the "facts" Dan Brown got were complete lies." by anubis. thats interpretation?
"It was written by humans." by weedy. apparently weedy hasnt read the relevant parts of the bible here.
" I agree with Anubis, The Da Vinci Code is filled with Ani-Christian lies...I know for a fact the Da Vinci Code is wrong!" by cybela. thats interpretation?
"I don't really beleive that the Priory of Scion ever existed, but I do think that there is a big chance that Jesus was married to Mary Madgalene. Read "Bloodline of the Holy Grail" if you want to find out more on the subject." this may be considered interpretation. but on a very low scale considering weedy is only using one book for research.
" it would have been so unusual that I'm positive that one of the people who wrote the bible would have written that Jesus was not married." positive huh? thats interpretation?
wow. alot of 'knowing' rather than interpreting if you ask me. but whatever. all im saying is that if people want to actually learn and stop being all knowing already at the ripe old age of 16 then they need to read more than one book.
i have never denied anything on this thread. i keep out of petty arguments like this. kids cant be argued with over the internet. but i must ask... you have read the internet and the davinci code, ever read the bible? lol national geographic is a Evolutionary perspective magazine, as is most of tv and the internet. good for you for studying that side, but ever read the other stuff? just asking here.
guessing, huh? There's a difference between a random guess - and an informed guess.
Like I said, people can interpret things anyway they wish - and usually will interpret things to continue believing what they already believe. I drew the conclusion that a number of people weren't married by reading about them in the Bible. Firstly, other people's wives or families were mentioned, but theirs never were. Secondly, their life circumstances, the things they got up to, etc, would have been hard for a married man with responsibilites. Thirdly, as I said before, the Apostle Paul even told single men not to get married if they wanted to devote their lives to God, so obviously someone out there was not getting married. Lastly, when Jesus was going to die, he made sure that his mother would be getting looked after, which was a responsibility of his as the eldest son in the family - but there's no record of him making sure his own wife and family were getting looked after, which would have also been a responsibility as a married man. You would think that if they went to the care of mentioning him organising someone to take care of his mother, they would mention him organising someone to take care of his own wife and child, wouldn't you?
I agree with you... But don’t forget that IF the Bible is real, they would never be able to tell you everything that went on, and so you cannot assume by what you don’t know, what realy happened. You can only go by what you are told did happen. The bible is comprised of Gospels; don’t forget that the gospels in the bible are only a select few, in fact a minority of the ones that were written. The parts put in the book are simply the most interesting and relevant points. Meaning ANYTHING could have been going on other than that, and if it did not suit it would simply not have been chosen. I have read the Bible from cover to cover. I could not answer any question on request because I read it once; you read a couple of thousand pages and see if you can remember everything! So many people through this topic have said "I know for Fact..." be it that they think Dan Brown's book is full of lies or that Jesus was or was not married... I will give you a TRUE FACT! ............ YOU DONT KNOW FOR FACT!!!!! Not one thing in the bible can be proven to have happened, nor can it be proven that it did not happen. (Forgive me if I repeat myself) Dan Browns book is a make believe story. The "Information" through the entire book, are the "Ideas" from the book, called "holy blood, holy grail". The story line (E.G the whole who done it thing, is what Dan Brown created.
the book was ok, (much better to read thanto watch the movie). My main point is
Sorry if this is out of context, and sorry if it offends, Just a little Piece of the mind of, me.
"Not one thing in the bible can be proven to have happened, nor can it be proven that it did not happen."
your statement is not true hiddendragon. many stories in the bible have been proven as historical fact. Pilate, who chose not to get involved in Jesus' death, was a true to life leader back then. many other characters and events have been proven as fact. so while you can claim the bible is false, it does have real people and events within it.
Point taken, your right about that. But other then #6 I think im right,
Call it a standoff. I think were both right.
