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17 years ago
Over 250 posts was a lot to read, so we're moving to a new thread.

Current Vote Count:

Valkner Loire (3) -- Saskia, Clarissa, Reichert
Rena Khazar (3) -- Claus, William, Ilse
No lynch (1) -- Valkner Loire

Not voting (2) -- Genndy, Rena

With Nine alive, it takes Five to lynch

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17 years ago
Valkner, I suspect the only chance you have of living tonight, and by doing so: Helping our community, is to vote for Rena.

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17 years ago

"I'm terribly sorry for being mistaken on a few levels, but my decision still stands. Did you listen at all to what I said about the white fur? I believe it's more than just a coincidence.

Ah, yes, I have not killed a werewolf either, but Valkner is a retired werewolf hunter, he could have at least tried. From what he has told us he hasn't even put forth an effort to stop the werewolf. Myself trying to do that wouldn't be that smart considering my knowledge of werewolves is far less than that of Valkner's. (OOC: I meant to say this in the post just beforehand. Sorry about double posting, I assure you it wasn't intentional)"

Well, with the white fur thing.  Lets say it is following him: How do you know that killing him will make it leave? If we're talking about evidence here (quote: You havnt shown me anything to combat the evidence) then perhaps you should state the evidence supporting that propostourous claim.

Now here's the kicker.  You just admit that his knowledge of werewolves is vast.  We also know that he can investigate people at night.  Explain to me how he is less of an asset than say. . . Rena? Who drives the town apart.

I don't expect Clarissa to switch her vote, as they are close friends: But you, you Mr. Mayor must face the facts, good sir.  I'm sure you are a very logical man, having won an election and such, and as so: I expect you'll see the light.

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17 years ago
I wasn't suggesting that the wolf was following Valkner. I was suggesting that Valkner is the White Wolf. I don't think Rena was driving the town apart, she was arguing her point, which I think is needed in this situation. If we were all sheep, then it would only make it easier for the werewolf or werewolves to kill us. I don't know if she's right or not, she could be wrong as far as we all know, but I don't think speaking her mind is enough evidence to lynch her. I appreciate the compliment, but logically she doesn't have anything linking her to the werewolf or wolves yet. Meanwhile, Valkner is, as Claus said earlier, the only person in this town with experience in hunting werewolves, but if he doesn't want to do anything with that experience to save the town, then he must be on to something. If enough evidence is given against somebody else or Valkner can prove his innocence to me I'll change my opinion, but so far it seems too obvious to me who we should lynch.

I'd rather not lynch anybody at all, but if that happened then we wouldn't be getting anywhere, and slowly we'd be losing all of our lives one by one. I would have voted for no lynch at all, but seeing as I had to choose someone to get us somewhat closer to getting rid of our problem and nobody else had as much evidence stacked against them, I had to pick Valkner. And if I'm wrong, then you may as well lynch me as a traitor, because that is what I would deserve. I'm still not completely sure whether Valkner is innocent or not, but this is all I can do, and in my eyes Rena hasn't shown much guilt. I'm open to suggestions.

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17 years ago

Valkner is innocent. Mark my words.  When you lynch him and then find that out: I will make sure you never forget this, mayor.

I'm not sure if Rena is or is not innocent, but I can tell you right now that Valkner is not guilty.

Rena was making propostorous theories incriminating myself and Saskia: Two people that would be dead now if it wasn't for my quick thinking.  You're sheep to believe that he is anything but scum.

All killing Valkner will accomplish is abolishing one of the few assets this town has left. Killing Rena, even if she is innocent, will at least not cost the town much.

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17 years ago

sorry, she is anything but scum, not he.

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17 years ago
And Saskia, have you some motive for wanting Valkner dead that I am not aware of?  I saved your life, based on good judgement and good luck, believe me, Valkner is no threat to our community: He is perhaps our most valuable asset and killing him now would be lunacy.

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17 years ago
this is just a humble suggestion: but since we are all deadlocked on Valkner and Rena, why not go with someone else for this round? then those who have powers can use them, we can gain even more insight, and we can move closer to getting rid of the danger at hand.
who else is alive, and particularly not talking?
what does everyone else think of this idea?         

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17 years ago

Clarissa - Rena is the most suspicious one here. This will not become some game of Russian Roulette!

I belive Rena is guilty and Valkner in my eyes has eliminated himself from suspicion.

Agents Provocateurs have to go!

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17 years ago
All right, I'm here.

Hi everyone nice to meet you and so on and so forth, go read the newbie thread for more.

(I am not used to playing a game where we have to stay in character, so please don't kill me for playing like a mafia player.)

This whole thing is probably ooc.

The werewolves haven't actually killed anyone yet.  That mean either we're getting incredibly lucky with the doc protects, or the kill method is actually to turn the vics into werewolves.  I can think of one easy way to find this out-- kill Saskia.  If she's a werewolf, then we'll know Tybalt is one, too, and hopefully Valkner can find the White Wolf at night.

Why not to lynch Valkner:  COME ON PEOPLE!!! HE'S A CLAIMED COP!!!!  You never lynch your claimed cop unless you have a counterclaim.  You let him investigate until his investigations are proven to be lies.  (Oh, and who led the cop lynch?  Saskia.) 

Why not to lynch Rena:  Zero's a smart guy.  I've been reading his play in the other games.  I meta he'd be a lot less vocal if he were wolf. (that's a joke)  The witness protection game, he didn't say much, tried not to draw attention.  And it worked.  It's out of character for him to suddenly put himself in the line of fire.

Why not to lynch Tybalt:  COME ON PEOPLE AGAIN!!!!  You don't lynch your claimed doc, either!  Not without some kind of crazy good evidence that he is lying. 

Why not to lynch Clarissa:  If Valkner is the cop, Clarissa is confirmed innocent.


Other speculations:  If Valkner is the cop, he has evidence that Clarissa is innocent.  Clarissa is defending Rena.  That might just be cause they're friends, but what if Clarissa has some kind of evidence that Rena is not a wolf?

Especially if we allow for the possibility that there are other investigation roles out there besides Valkner, there's a lot of benefit to the no lynch vote.

I will either vote for Saskia or No Lynch.

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17 years ago
Whoa.  I didn't mean to bold the whole thing like that.  Sorry.

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17 years ago

Thank you for stating the freakin' obvious for all those who don't listen to the rest of us

But I still think Rena is guilty. She's trying to get the most important people lynched.

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17 years ago

Corinthian from now on, really try to stay in character. I had a request to delete that post but I'm going to let it stand because it obv. took alot of work. 

Now, I can tell you right now, that I was never bitten.  I don't believe Saskia was either but I could be wrong.  Also how do you know for a fact that if she is a werewolf: SO am I.  Its possible that if she is one, she was bitten b4 I arrived, and I was not bitten.

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17 years ago
Wow, I don't know why that (or probably this) is bolded.

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17 years ago
First of all, I'm NOT a cop. Second, I do want to live so I'll do as (JJJ) requests. UNVOTE: NO LYNCH, VOTE: RENA

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17 years ago
And mayor, you are not as intellegent as I thought. I belived that you were on our side but you've turned traitorious. I haven't killed a werewolf because I haven't found a werewolf, yet. Keep in mind, werewolves cannot die in wolf form. But in human form it's a cakewalk. I think you should think more about your choice. (JJJ) and (Corinthian) and a few others belive I'm innocent because i've proven that I'm probably the most valuable asset here. Killing me will just make you all get killed faster. A werewolf is smart and I can be killed as well. But to uncover the werewolf, I need the town's help. That's where we're going wrong. you assume that i brought the wolf because I encountered it. It's totally out of order. Someone in this town encountered it and was turned into one. That's why I'm here, to find it, catch it and kill it. But i need especially your help with this. now I ask....Are you with me......or against me? 

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17 years ago
Don't be an idiot Valkner.  Just cuz your innocent doesn't mean you're the "most important asset". You're an asset but thats as far as it goes.  As far as I know: you havn't saved two people that wouldn't be with us otherwise.  I think you're innocent, and of value, but I also think you're an idiot.

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17 years ago
(OOC: Damn.  It's a game.  How am I supposed to play if I have to stay in character the whole damn time?  Are we voting people based on how we like their character or what?  Fine.  Whatever.)

Of course Dr. Tybalt would argue like he did.  (Inability to quote selected is a bitch, Seth.)

If Saskia is a werewolf now, then obviously suspicion will fall on the good doctor next. 

How, sir, can you be so sure you were not bitten?  (Did you receive a special message from Seth telling you?  This is what I'm talking about.)

A'ight.  (Can we all at least admit that cop and doc are pro-town roles?)

We only have Dr. Tybalt's word for it that he was not bitten by the werewolf.  He's the one vouching for Saskia, too.  If they are werewolves now, of course they ain't gonna tell us.

Here's my take on everyone in town.  As a retired sailor, I am very observant.

Valkner:  Claims to be able to detect werewolves.  Play is consistent with claim.  Wants to move the game into the night phase, presumably to use his abilities, but doesn't want to lynch anyone. 

Tybalt:  claims to be able to protect people from being killed by werewolves.  Since no one else is claiming that ability, I believe him.  Also, he's the town doctor.  Makes sense.  Wants to lynch Rena.  Bad reasoning, though.  "Even if she's not the werewolf, the town will be better off without her?"  (THE TOWN IS NEVER BETTER OFF KILLING TOWN!!!)

Claus:  Using good reasoning.  Hunting for the werewolf/werewolves.  Excellent reason to vote Rena-- because she's trying to turn the town against the cop and the doc.  A little quick to discount the theory that Saskia may be a werewolf.   Interesting comment the first day, "Waiting is probably beneficial for a number of those here."  Are you suggesting what I think, Claus?

Clarissa: Cleared by Valkner.  She was one of the ones pressing him to reveal his investigation.  Why is she voting for him, if she's confirmed innocent?

Reichert:  Reichert is arguing that Valkner doesn't wanna help the town- that he hasn't shown us his werewolf-hunting skills.  Are you deaf, boy?  Valkner told us he investigated Clarissa and she's not a wolf.  Val is doing his best to help the town, but he can only investigate one person per night.

Saskia: Tries to argue that Val and Clarissa might be the wolves.  That would seem like a lot of plotting on their part.  Wants us to lynch our only claimed investigative role.  Very eager for a non-no-lynch.

Ilse:  Hasn't said much.  Voting Rena based on Rena's casting suspicion on the doc.  Good reasoning.

Rena:  Didn't actually vote the doc or the cop.  In fact, isn't voting anyone, even though she's near lynching.  If she is a werewolf, why isn't she going after Val? 

Here's my chart:

Most Likely Werewolf

Saskia
Reichert
Rena
Ilse
Claus
Clarissa
Tybalt
Valkner

Least Likely Werewolf

Vote Saskia

This lynch will let us know if "attacked but survived" means werewolf.  Saskia is also the one who started the wagon on the claimed investigator. 

What are you doing, town?  Saskia and Reichert are my two most likely wolves!  Now all they have to do is switch their vote to Rena to get a lynch!! 

If Rena is lynched and comes up townie, I say whoever cast the hammer vote is almost certainly werewolf.  If neither Saskia nor Reichert switch their vote, it's very likely Rena is werewolf partners with one of them.

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17 years ago
Heh, I see that you are atleast using your head. Heck, your mind is probably the most logical of the others here, maybe even more so than Renas, this town would be wise to keep you alive. But still, there is one small hole in your reasoning. IF I Am A Werewolf, Why Haven't I Changed My Vote To Rena Yet?! You seem to think that Rena is innocent, and honestly, so am I. But if I was a werewolf, wouldn't have I wanted her out? All I would have to do is change my vote.

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17 years ago
Things are getting tense in Rostov.  Shopgirl Rena Khazar stands on the edge of eternity, with Valkner Loire only a step behind.  Will this day finally come to a close?  And what horrors await within night's dark embrace?

Rena Khazar (4) -- Claus, William, Ilse, Valkner

Valkner Loire (3) -- Saskia, Clarissa, Reichert
Saskia Vandenberg (1) -- Genndy

Not voting (1) -- Rena

(Cor-- quit complaining and play.  My game, my rules. Or is this game just too hard for you? ;P)

(3j-- thanks. I agree that deleting his whole post would have been a bad idea.)

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17 years ago
Okay it's a problem. If Rena hasn't voted the last vote probably will be against me and it's will be 4, 4, 1. She won't vote for herself. Gennedy, it's on you

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17 years ago

Clarissa, are you brain dead? Valkner has cleared your name.  We both know you're innocent, this confirms that Valkner is indeed a hunter and capable of helping greatly.  You're only voting him because you're obliged to help Rena.  Whats your problem?

Also, you said that my reason for voting Rena is that the town would be better off without her regardless of her status.  That was probably the 3rd reason I stated.  I know for sure that the first one was that she was trying to drive the town apart (pretty obviously)

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17 years ago
(Copied from above, a reply to Corinthian)

Heh, I see that you are atleast using your head. Heck, your mind is probably the most logical of the others here, maybe even more so than Renas, this town would be wise to keep you alive. But still, there is one small hole in your reasoning. IF I Am A Werewolf, Why Haven't I Changed My Vote To Rena Yet?! You seem to think that Rena is innocent, and honestly, so am I. But if I was a werewolf, wouldn't have I wanted her out? All I would have to do is change my vote.

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17 years ago

We all know you're no werewolf, Sask.  I just wish you'd stop being so anti-valkner. . .

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17 years ago

Anti-Valkner?? oook lol. Mayor if i'm iinocent, take me off your train of thought as a werewolf (ooc: Unvote) If you don't, it seems to be that you say I'm innocent but you have doubt? AND I'm not an idiot

 

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17 years ago
When did the mayor say you were innocent?

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17 years ago
(ooc:... Wow, you guys have been busy these past few days, huh? Haha)

From what I can tell:

- I'm on the verge of lynching.
-Valkner's nearly proved innocent.  For example, if he's the werewolf, he knows the Clarissa isn't one, duh.  Not really very good proof, if you ask me. (ooc: Perhaps some people overlooked this... I once used this as proof for being innocent, but I had proved it by stating extra info about the one's I'd investigated.  Jimi didn't do that.)
-Grenndy is one of the few people here using their heads wisely AND putting his thoughts out into the open for everyone to consider... Hmm, reminds me of someone.
-Doctor... still wants to kill me for no reason aside from I'm not "useful."
-Saskia.... Saskia, I've no idea about you.  It could be that you're innocent, or you're just waiting out so you don't seem suspicious.
-Mayor, also using his head - for the same reasons as Grenndy.

Doctor, you've argued in Valker's favor since the beginning, even when he was obviously BSing.  You did call him on his over-dramatization, but still, you went in his favor.  Me, on the other hand, you've been riding me, trying to get me killed, since the moment I shot a ray of suspicion toward you.  Doctor, truely, I don't think you're a werewolf... I think you're stupid. (ooc:  JJJ, you're not stupid, which is why I don't understand your reasoning.)  Although, Grenndy made an excellent point about being bitten. (ooc:  I think that's more then valid.  Why would Seth make characters that couldn't be suspects?  Not his style, I don't think.)

(ooc:  I want to make a point that Corinthian made earlier... Take a look at the behavior of the players in past games.  Just because someone acts stupidly, doesn't mean that they've suffered some sort of brain damage making them play differently.  Look at old habits and stuff; the way we handled old situations... Believe me, that helps when you want to know who's BSing.  Ah, yes... Most importantly, use your brains!  Make your own deductions, don't just let accusations go unquestioned.  If you think something's kinda funky, point it out!  It brings about more discussion.)

Valkner, seeing as how you've not actually proven yourself as an investigator... And, of course, all of the facts against you, I must vote for you.  You've not helped anyone but yourself.

Vote:  Valkner

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17 years ago

1. We all know you're voting for Valkner because its your last chance at survival.  He's innocent, I know it, You know it.
2. I would just like to point out something that I may have miscalculated in the past, I vouched for Saskia as innocent, I now withdraw that vouch.  Come to think of it, she could have been turned before I arrived.  I don't want my own being innocent to hing on whether or not she is.
3. Grenndy is using his head, like you say, and he's telling you that Valkner, and Myself are not guilty. Moron.  You call me stupid and then come up with. Grenndy, you're using your head and playing a good game, so logically I should vote the exact opposite of what you say.
4. I think you're tearing up the town, regardless of whether or not you're innocent, largely because of you, Valkner is on the verge of death and should he die: we will have lost both an innocent man and a great asset.  That's reason enough.
5. You only think the mayor is using his head because he's tilted in your favor. Politicians these days. . .
6. 

He was obviously BSING?

OK, lets see what happens here. . .

1. He introduces himself.
2. He votes for No Lynch
3. He explains that he has one small suspicion but has no way of proving this.
4. He no longer has a suspicion.

Could his suspicion not have been Clarissa? Then he investigates her and voila she's not guilty.  I'm guessing here but its congruent to whats happened. 

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17 years ago
Rena, Rena, NO!!  Vote Saskia.  SASKIA.  Not Valkner!  Voting Valkner will not save you, it just gives the wolves an excuse to say you're anti-town.  If you are not scum, don't act like scum!

Clarissa, why are you still voting Valkner?  Seriously.

I will not vote for Valkner.  Period.  He is the one and only claimed investigator in the town, and I will not vote him unless circumstances change dramatically.

Gosh, why wouldn't Saskia switch to Rena if she were werewolf?  How about, because Saskia knows Rena will be found innocent at the lynch, and Saskia was paying attention earlier when I specifically said the one who hammers Rena or Valkner will be tops on my bad list.  Nice try, werewolf!

Come on town!  We don't have to lynch someone as soon as they get within a vote of dying!

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17 years ago

Ok, i havent weaved myself through all the recent talk, but i did notice that the doc has accused me of being an idiot. saying that ive only supported Rena cause we are friends. first, we arent necessarily that close. we are just common shop girls. second, im not defending Rena instead of Valkner, im accusing Valkner of only bringing his 'ability' that he claims to have out once he came under fire. that to me is very suspicious, even if he claims im innocent. i know im innocent, ive said nothing to show otherwise, it would be easy to claim some of us are innocent at this point. it doesnt take an 'ability' to come to that conclusion. so 'DOC', back off.

Clarissa

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17 years ago

Clarissa, I know you are innocent, so I have a hope you will listen to sense here. Valkner is the resident expert on werewolves, you NEVER EVER, BAR NOTHING, try and lynch the only known person who can find the enemy...

This is not jumping to a conclusion. This is sound logic here. Valkner was trying to conceal his power in an attempt to confuse the werewolf. And you are being hypocritical here, you are trying to get Mr. Loire killed just because he didn't tell us what he can do outright. For the last time: He's the frigging Werewolf Hunter! We cannot risk lynching him.

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17 years ago

hypocritical? wheres the hypocracy?

second, he isnt KNOWN to be capable of anything. i can claim anything i want, doesnt make it true. therefore, the only choices i have are Valkner or no lynch. give someone else some grief. im not the only one not voting, am i?

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17 years ago

The hypocrisy: You accuse us of voting against Rena on suspicion, while accusing Valkner (the least suspicious!) on a much shakier suspicion!

Capability: He isn't KNOWN, no. But everything in the game is relative. He will almost certainly be our salvation and is relatively less likely to be werewolf, that is reason enough not to want him gone. We can prove nothing, but no-one has disputed his claims. If you're not sure Rena is guilty, THAT IS NOT A GOOD REASON TO TRY AND LYNCH HIS OPPONENT! If you are unsure, don't vote at all. And why do you seem insistent against lynching Rena?

Does Rena have some kind of hold on Clarissa? Are they twins? Are they both engaged in a conspiracy?

I think there's a connection here...

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17 years ago

i never accused anyone of voting against rena on suspicion. if people think rena is a wolf, thats fine with me. ive never tried to defend rena.

AND, im not opposed to rena getting lynched. i have simply stepped forward to accuse Valkner, simple as that. you want me to change my vote though? fair enough

unvote:Valkner

vote: no lynch.

anyone happy now? doubt it with this group.

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17 years ago

(whats with teh stupid bold? it completely masks the voting process. Seth, you may have to start yet another thread to see if you can fix this. i just voted above, by the way.)

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17 years ago

You know Claus, ive been thinking about one of your former statements. You once said that a hunter would most likely not be a werewolf. are you trying to say that you are not under suspicion because of that 'theory" of yours?

 

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17 years ago
How does that place me under suspicion?

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17 years ago

it doesnt necessarily, im just stating that you keep insisting that a hunter would not be a werewolf. why would you keep doing that? for valkner's sake, or for your own?

 

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17 years ago
Current Vote Count:

Rena Khazar (4) -- Claus, William, Ilse, Valkner
Valkner Loire (3) -- Saskia,Rena, Reichert
Saskia Vandenberg (1) -- Genndy

Not voting (1) -- Clarissa

The votes the same, only the names have changed.

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17 years ago

I'm sick of explaining this: Valkner may be guilty, but as a claimed investigator he is less likely to be a werewolf than pretty much anyone else. No-one has disputed his claim, he has made a revelation that I know is correct and has the potential to be worth more to the town than most others.

It's stupid to accuse people who are less suspicious than others, with little or no reason, and who can benefit us a lot.

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17 years ago

Clarissa, I'm sorry for the insult, that may have been uncalled for.  Things are stressful at the moment and people that we know are innocent shouldn't fight eachother.

Thanks for switching your vote, although I disagree that those were your only two choices.

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17 years ago

Okay 1st of all, I AM a werewolf hunter, I'm coming out of retirement permanently now. (OOC: This doesen't change anything, just a story add-on. and my ability IS to investigate once a night to see who is a werewolf.) 2nd Clarissa, I'm still at a bit of shock on voting me AFTER saving your ass. I know you unvoted me, but it's just been on my mind the whole time. 3rd. All the people voting me are only doing it because I didn't use my power to please them. I have a plan anyway.

After think over ALL the evidence, If rena dies and is a citizen, i'm checking Saskia next. If Saskia is a citizen, then i'm thinking on Gennedy. If rena is a wolf, i'm still checking Saskia next. but it will eliminate Gennedy

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17 years ago
(OOC: This is madglee. Got locked out of my account and am waiting to have my password reset, so until that happens, I'll be posting under this username. Sorry.)

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17 years ago
Well Valkner, you've accomplished something: Making yourself a target for the 'wolves. Now I'm face with quite the decision, pal. Thanks.

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17 years ago
*Sigh* I don't know what to do. I really think that Valk's a werewolf, but I don't think I'm going to be able to convince you guys, and I really don't want to waist a vote. But theres no way any of you would make me vote out Rena. She's just stateing her views, and she's really thinking it through. Same with Gennedy. But if we don't vote out Valkner, and He IS a werewolf, then he will just claim he 'investigated' me and found me a werewolf. Probably because I was the first to vote for him and suspect him heavily, and might not be too far from the truth. Dang, I really backed myself into a corner here.

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17 years ago
(ooc: Okay, boys and girls, normally I would never ever do something like this so early in a game.  What the hell, though, you only go around once.)

Claus, I believe you have an investigative power. 

First you said "Waiting is probably beneficial for a number of those here," which at first might be taken as "wolves don't wanna risk a death when they've got a guaranteed NK opportunity," but I think is more of a "hey everyone, other people can learn things at night too." 

Then you said you know Valkner is correct about Clarissa's innocence.  The only way you could know for sure is if you have some special ability.

Clarissa mentions Claus's continuing to talk about "hunters' abilities" as though she thinks Val and Claus are wolves together, but I think she's got it backward.  I think Claus has some investigation ability related to his skill as a hunter.

For the good of the town, Claus, speak up and tell us what you know.

If you confirm my theory, I have more to say.

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17 years ago
(OOC: The post below this one is directed at the Doctor, I don't think I made that too clear until a little further in. Just to clear things up before you read it.)

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17 years ago
Saskia, a werewolf? No. No, it could be possible, just not likely. I hope not. I will not vote out Rena for voicing her opinions. It's a free town, I'd like to keep it that way, especially in such troubled times. And the only trouble related to her is you and a few others making such a big deal out of an accusation. I accused Valkner of something, why didn't you all turn on me and vote me out? I just think it's unfair to vote for Rena for making a suggestion.

Let's have a look at your reason not to vote for Valkner. "He's innocent. I know it, you know it." Great thinking there - that's enough to convince me there's a chance in Hell that Valkner is a werewolf (OOC: Don't know if that's Australian slang or not, don't think so, but just in case it means that there's pretty much no chance). And you're list of things Valkner has done since this all started.

"1. He introduces himself.

2. He votes for No Lynch
3. He explains that he has one small suspicion but has no way of proving this.
4. He no longer has a suspicion."

You completely left out finding the white hair and Valkner's relation to the White Wolf. Everybody seems to be ignoring this except Valkner, who misunderstood me anyway. Just to get this out there: I have voted Valkner because I believe there is a high chance he is the White Wolf, because his family was all attacked and killed by the White Wolf and then it comes here when Valkner does.

And when Rena changes her vote to Valkner, it's suddenly to save herself, but when Valkner changes his vote to Rena it's not the same thing? You're jumping to conclusions, and I think that's more related to splitting the town than voicing your opinion, although I still believe you're innocent.

And related to what Saskia said above. Everybody is using "Valkner is one of our most important resources" line, but has the thought ever occurred to anybody that he could be lying (not about Clarissa maybe, but he could use this to his advantage in the future and just say somebody else was innocent of being a werewolf to save his fellow werewolf (of course, if there's more than one of them))? I just don't think "I know it, you know it" is a good enough reason to not vote for him. And like I said, I'm sorry that out of all people that this happened to Valkner - he's a nice enough person, and if he is lynched and I am wrong, I would truly feel absolutely horrible. I'd probably allow you all to lynch me if you wanted, just out of shame. But at the moment, the decision stands.

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17 years ago
Has anyone been lurking?

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17 years ago

WTF?!!! All you are saying is that I'm a wolf because I'm not pleasing you and it's suspicios that the wolf came when I came. There is no back-up info. All you have been doing since you've been active is try and find a reason to prove an imaginary gulit and get me killed. WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM??!!!!! Focus on the problem, MAYOR! You're focusing on me because I'm not pleasing you. I finally figured it out. It's not the people's opinions that turn people against me, it's YOU! You lead the people, they listen to you. But I've got the most expirience dealing with this monster and YOUR people listen to me and agree with me instead of following you and rejecting me! Mayor, I don't know what to say anymore. You're the worst piece of scum i've ever had my misfortune of meeting!

(ooc: No hard feeling October, just being in character)

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17 years ago

My God Valkner.  Everything that comes out of your mouth in dialogue is garbage. Just shut up and use your powers at night and tell us the results.  For gods sakes, you make me want to lynch you, and I'm the only reason you're still alive. 

He's focusing on you because he thinks your guilty, live with it. WE know your not, but he's just a politician.

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17 years ago

(ooc: Its not australian slang :P)

Wow mayor, whats with people continuously saying, "your reason for voting..." or "your reason for not voting..." as if thats my only reason.

Quote: "Let's have a look at your reason not to vote for Valkner. "He's innocent. I know it, you know it." "

THATS NOT MY REASON FOR NOT VOTING HIM. ITS BECAUSE HE IS AN IMPORTANT ASSET.

(ooc: If you actually think that Seth made him an ex-werewolf hunter without investigative powers for finding werewolves then you're a joke)

If you're not just being a lousy politician and talking with no action, then you should be prepared to be lynched tomorrow, should valkner be lynched tonight. Mark my words.

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17 years ago

Shisse! Now people are taking the possibility of lynching Valkner seriously? What have we become!?

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17 years ago

We've become precisely what our dear, retarted, moronic excuse for a mayor has wanted us to become.

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17 years ago

I'm not sure about things anymore... I'll have to rethink my position...

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17 years ago
As must I

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17 years ago
The town begins to bicker amongst themselves.  Conflicting theories emerge.  Chaos seems inevitable.

Current Vote Count:

Valkner Loire (3) -- Saskia, Rena, Reichert
Rena Khazar (2) -- Ilse, Valkner
Saskia Vandenberg (1) -- Genndy
No lynch (1) -- Clarissa
Reichert Vandenberg (1) -- Claus

Not voting (1) -- William

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17 years ago

Werewolves Probabilites in my opinion.

Reichert
Ilse
Rena
Clarissa
Claus
Genndy
Valkner

I've left Saskia out because I'm just not sure where she stands. She could very well be a werewolf.  I just don't like the thought that I've been linked to her. I was not bitten, there is a possibility that she was.

(ooc: yes Corinth, if I was a werewolf, I would have gotten a pm from seth)

Unvote: Rena

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17 years ago

I've rethought this... In my opinion, Reichart Vandenburg seems to be trying to turn us against each other, much more so than Rena.

VOTE: Reichart Vandenburg

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17 years ago
Answer my question, Claus. 

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17 years ago
Now you're talking, doc!

You say you used your doctor ability to protect yourself last night.  Did you use your power to protect Saskia on the night she was attacked?

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17 years ago
No.  That was narrator driven.

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17 years ago
(That was OOC)

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17 years ago
Don't you get it?  If you didn't protect her, but she lived anyway, then the werewolves must not have wanted her dead!

She must have been turned!

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17 years ago

Naw

You misunderstand, I protected her, I just didn't use my ability to do it. (OOC: Seth had me there, and he very often takes control of characters at the beginning (TOUR GUIDE TIM anyone?) and it doesnt necesarilly mean that she's turned)

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17 years ago
Too bad, doc.  I kinda liked you.  But that last message gave it away.

You were attacked last night, right?  Then you ain't gonna know till tonight if you been turned. 

Don't you know how werewolf legends work?  You don't turn into a wolf right away.

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17 years ago

That last message did not tell you anything new.

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17 years ago
Sorry Dr. But your comment on the mayor making you what he wants is true. It's very true. But it's more so because You belive in me and some of the other townsfolk do also which drives him crazy on the inside. and I can't get to night phase if people constantly change votes. Dr. I also ask of your stengths tonight (ooc: Blocking my hit). If the werewolf is gonna hit me, he is gonna do it while everything is all smooth

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17 years ago
(ooc: Stupid forum thingy, putting my posts in the wrong place.)

Answer my question from above, Claus.  Right now, dammit.  I'm old and could die at any time.

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17 years ago
Alright Valk, I'll protect you.  But you better make good on your investigation.

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17 years ago
I'm not getting what you're trying to say. Of course I'm trying to get everybody to want what I want, isn't that what you're trying to do by arguing your point now? Personally, I don't see what's so wrong with it, and if you've a problem with it then you must be a hypocrite.

I'm glad you are no longer going to vote for Rena, Doctor. I don't think she has done anything to provoke suspicion yet, despite what she's going through. Vote for me if you will, I will not protect myself from lynching (OOC: my power is to protect anybody in the town from being lynched once) out of respect for the people's decision, even if I do not agree with it. But aren't you contradicting yourself?

You place Clarissa higher on your list of suspected people than Valkner, even though Valkner has said that she is innocent. That means you must believe he is lying, otherwise she would be down the bottom of your list (below Valkner). And if you believe he is lying about other people's innocence, then why are you so adamant that he is innocent?

I know that the White Wolf suspicion isn't 100% perfect, but it's the best I've got right now. So far, I'm finding it hard to believe that anybody in this town could possibly be a werewolf, but in this situation lynching is the only way we can possibly rid ourselves of the werewolf or wolves before there isn't enough people left to do anything about it. If we have to do that, we have to take out somebody and out of all the townspeople Valkner had more evidence against him than everybody else, even if it wasn't enough. Yes, Valkner, I do know where you're coming from, and despite you being a nice enough person becoming a werewolf could do strange things to any one of us. You might not be a werewolf, but if we don't vote, the problems going to become irreversible and everybody will be killed. If somebody has any more evidence for anybody else, I'm more than happy to hear it.

(OOC: No offence taken Jimi. I didn't mean anything by suspecting you either. Thanks for saying that though.)

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17 years ago

Hmm... Reichart has claimed his ability, but it could be a werewolf ability as well as a citizen one...

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17 years ago

Reichert
Ilse
Rena
Claus
Genndy
Valkner
Clarissa

 

My mistake.  Do you still vote for Valkner?

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17 years ago

And (Corinthian's character) I will reveal what I know. I tried to hide it, but now because of you blurting it out I have no choice but to reveal what I can do.

As you all know, I am a hunter. not a great werewolf hunter like Valkner, but I've had years of experience hunting wild beasts in the most dangerous forests in Europe. I can track people without them knowing it. Last night I tracked Clarissa Leveque. She didn't leave her house.

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17 years ago

Both of the hunters were afraid of Clarissa being a werewolf apparently :P

and wow Grenndy, good call.

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17 years ago
Yes, I'm afraid so. Like I said, I didn't want to vote for anybody but it's the only way. If somebody gives evidence that doesn't just relate to "she tried to split up the people" I'd be happy to change, because it aches to possibly lynch somebody who may have been innocent. If you've got anything, please let me hear it. I'm willing to listen.

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17 years ago

Well, what you're doing here is:

"Lets lynch the only true investigator we have, because I can't think of anything else to lynch, so that the wolves can attack someone at night and we won't even get to investigate anyone,"

 

Is that really in the best interest of the town, mayor?

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17 years ago
In my opinion, anyone who has voted to lynch Valkner looks suspicious... It's exactly what a werewolf would do. Kill the investigator and no-one will know anything...

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17 years ago
true that, I guess. It's really funny how our official, keeps linking him to the white wolf: Precisely what he can aid us against.

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17 years ago
(OOC: lets start another thread, these twice-bolded words are annoying,..)

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17 years ago
I meant that if he was the White Wolf, he could be lying to us all through his teeth and trick everybody into believing one person is innocent whereas they may not be.

Mr. Tybalt, you were a good friend of my father, and that's why I've looked up to you all these years. I won't vote for Valkner tonight, if it makes you feel better, if we can convince Claus to investigate Valkner tonight. I'll vote for nobody instead. But this is only out of my father's memory, and out of my memory of you before this crisis. (OOC: This isn't necessarily what I believe in but seeing the storyline fits in and I'm being in character..)

Unvote: Valkner Loire
Vote: No Lynch

This is for this night, however. If Claus does not choose to investigate Valkner, then I will vote for him tomorrow night. My suspicion remains, I have not been convinced, but to stop all the fighting. At least temporarily. And meanwhile we can find out if I was right or wrong. That's if Claus isn't a werewolf as well and he could be lying through his teeth as well about Valkner. I doubt that's the case, as it's highly unlikely, but if it is we're in trouble, we may have our only investigators being werewolves themselves. I'll oblige tonight if Claus agrees to investigate Valkner.

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17 years ago
Oh, didn't see new thread.

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17 years ago

The town begins to bicker amongst themselves.  Conflicting theories emerge.  Chaos seems inevitable.

Current Vote Count:

Valkner Loire (3) -- Saskia, Rena, Reichert
Rena Khazar (2) -- Ilse, Valkner
Saskia Vandenberg (1) -- Genndy
No lynch (1) -- Clarissa
Reichert Vandenberg (1) -- Claus

Not voting (1) -- William

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17 years ago
Hey William - Why aren't you voting yet?

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17 years ago

I have no one to vote for.  Reichart is being a bitch, Saskia is being mysterious. Why she votes Valkner is beyond me. Rena is only voting Valkner because she thought it was her only chance for survival.  She will switch votes soon, I hope.

But still, nothing solid. I guess Saskia, Reichart are the only two Im close to choosing.

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17 years ago
Seth, care to start a new thread so these letters stop being 2x bolded