"I'm terribly sorry for being mistaken on a few levels, but my decision still stands. Did you listen at all to what I said about the white fur? I believe it's more than just a coincidence.
Ah, yes, I have not killed a werewolf either, but Valkner is a retired werewolf hunter, he could have at least tried. From what he has told us he hasn't even put forth an effort to stop the werewolf. Myself trying to do that wouldn't be that smart considering my knowledge of werewolves is far less than that of Valkner's. (OOC: I meant to say this in the post just beforehand. Sorry about double posting, I assure you it wasn't intentional)"
Well, with the white fur thing. Lets say it is following him: How do you know that killing him will make it leave? If we're talking about evidence here (quote: You havnt shown me anything to combat the evidence) then perhaps you should state the evidence supporting that propostourous claim.
Now here's the kicker. You just admit that his knowledge of werewolves is vast. We also know that he can investigate people at night. Explain to me how he is less of an asset than say. . . Rena? Who drives the town apart.
I don't expect Clarissa to switch her vote, as they are close friends: But you, you Mr. Mayor must face the facts, good sir. I'm sure you are a very logical man, having won an election and such, and as so: I expect you'll see the light.
Valkner is innocent. Mark my words. When you lynch him and then find that out: I will make sure you never forget this, mayor.
I'm not sure if Rena is or is not innocent, but I can tell you right now that Valkner is not guilty.
Rena was making propostorous theories incriminating myself and Saskia: Two people that would be dead now if it wasn't for my quick thinking. You're sheep to believe that he is anything but scum.
All killing Valkner will accomplish is abolishing one of the few assets this town has left. Killing Rena, even if she is innocent, will at least not cost the town much.
sorry, she is anything but scum, not he.
Clarissa - Rena is the most suspicious one here. This will not become some game of Russian Roulette!
I belive Rena is guilty and Valkner in my eyes has eliminated himself from suspicion.
Agents Provocateurs have to go!
Thank you for stating the freakin' obvious for all those who don't listen to the rest of us
But I still think Rena is guilty. She's trying to get the most important people lynched.
Corinthian from now on, really try to stay in character. I had a request to delete that post but I'm going to let it stand because it obv. took alot of work.
Now, I can tell you right now, that I was never bitten. I don't believe Saskia was either but I could be wrong. Also how do you know for a fact that if she is a werewolf: SO am I. Its possible that if she is one, she was bitten b4 I arrived, and I was not bitten.
Clarissa, are you brain dead? Valkner has cleared your name. We both know you're innocent, this confirms that Valkner is indeed a hunter and capable of helping greatly. You're only voting him because you're obliged to help Rena. Whats your problem?
Also, you said that my reason for voting Rena is that the town would be better off without her regardless of her status. That was probably the 3rd reason I stated. I know for sure that the first one was that she was trying to drive the town apart (pretty obviously)
We all know you're no werewolf, Sask. I just wish you'd stop being so anti-valkner. . .
Anti-Valkner?? oook lol. Mayor if i'm iinocent, take me off your train of thought as a werewolf (ooc: Unvote) If you don't, it seems to be that you say I'm innocent but you have doubt? AND I'm not an idiot
1. We all know you're voting for Valkner because its your last chance at survival. He's innocent, I know it, You know it.2. I would just like to point out something that I may have miscalculated in the past, I vouched for Saskia as innocent, I now withdraw that vouch. Come to think of it, she could have been turned before I arrived. I don't want my own being innocent to hing on whether or not she is.3. Grenndy is using his head, like you say, and he's telling you that Valkner, and Myself are not guilty. Moron. You call me stupid and then come up with. Grenndy, you're using your head and playing a good game, so logically I should vote the exact opposite of what you say.4. I think you're tearing up the town, regardless of whether or not you're innocent, largely because of you, Valkner is on the verge of death and should he die: we will have lost both an innocent man and a great asset. That's reason enough.5. You only think the mayor is using his head because he's tilted in your favor. Politicians these days. . .6. He was obviously BSING?
OK, lets see what happens here. . .
1. He introduces himself.2. He votes for No Lynch3. He explains that he has one small suspicion but has no way of proving this.4. He no longer has a suspicion.
Could his suspicion not have been Clarissa? Then he investigates her and voila she's not guilty. I'm guessing here but its congruent to whats happened.
Ok, i havent weaved myself through all the recent talk, but i did notice that the doc has accused me of being an idiot. saying that ive only supported Rena cause we are friends. first, we arent necessarily that close. we are just common shop girls. second, im not defending Rena instead of Valkner, im accusing Valkner of only bringing his 'ability' that he claims to have out once he came under fire. that to me is very suspicious, even if he claims im innocent. i know im innocent, ive said nothing to show otherwise, it would be easy to claim some of us are innocent at this point. it doesnt take an 'ability' to come to that conclusion. so 'DOC', back off.
Clarissa
Clarissa, I know you are innocent, so I have a hope you will listen to sense here. Valkner is the resident expert on werewolves, you NEVER EVER, BAR NOTHING, try and lynch the only known person who can find the enemy...
This is not jumping to a conclusion. This is sound logic here. Valkner was trying to conceal his power in an attempt to confuse the werewolf. And you are being hypocritical here, you are trying to get Mr. Loire killed just because he didn't tell us what he can do outright. For the last time: He's the frigging Werewolf Hunter! We cannot risk lynching him.
hypocritical? wheres the hypocracy?
second, he isnt KNOWN to be capable of anything. i can claim anything i want, doesnt make it true. therefore, the only choices i have are Valkner or no lynch. give someone else some grief. im not the only one not voting, am i?
The hypocrisy: You accuse us of voting against Rena on suspicion, while accusing Valkner (the least suspicious!) on a much shakier suspicion!
Capability: He isn't KNOWN, no. But everything in the game is relative. He will almost certainly be our salvation and is relatively less likely to be werewolf, that is reason enough not to want him gone. We can prove nothing, but no-one has disputed his claims. If you're not sure Rena is guilty, THAT IS NOT A GOOD REASON TO TRY AND LYNCH HIS OPPONENT! If you are unsure, don't vote at all. And why do you seem insistent against lynching Rena?
Does Rena have some kind of hold on Clarissa? Are they twins? Are they both engaged in a conspiracy?
I think there's a connection here...
i never accused anyone of voting against rena on suspicion. if people think rena is a wolf, thats fine with me. ive never tried to defend rena.
AND, im not opposed to rena getting lynched. i have simply stepped forward to accuse Valkner, simple as that. you want me to change my vote though? fair enough
unvote:Valkner
vote: no lynch.
anyone happy now? doubt it with this group.
(whats with teh stupid bold? it completely masks the voting process. Seth, you may have to start yet another thread to see if you can fix this. i just voted above, by the way.)
You know Claus, ive been thinking about one of your former statements. You once said that a hunter would most likely not be a werewolf. are you trying to say that you are not under suspicion because of that 'theory" of yours?
it doesnt necessarily, im just stating that you keep insisting that a hunter would not be a werewolf. why would you keep doing that? for valkner's sake, or for your own?
I'm sick of explaining this: Valkner may be guilty, but as a claimed investigator he is less likely to be a werewolf than pretty much anyone else. No-one has disputed his claim, he has made a revelation that I know is correct and has the potential to be worth more to the town than most others.
It's stupid to accuse people who are less suspicious than others, with little or no reason, and who can benefit us a lot.
Clarissa, I'm sorry for the insult, that may have been uncalled for. Things are stressful at the moment and people that we know are innocent shouldn't fight eachother.
Thanks for switching your vote, although I disagree that those were your only two choices.
Okay 1st of all, I AM a werewolf hunter, I'm coming out of retirement permanently now. (OOC: This doesen't change anything, just a story add-on. and my ability IS to investigate once a night to see who is a werewolf.) 2nd Clarissa, I'm still at a bit of shock on voting me AFTER saving your ass. I know you unvoted me, but it's just been on my mind the whole time. 3rd. All the people voting me are only doing it because I didn't use my power to please them. I have a plan anyway.
After think over ALL the evidence, If rena dies and is a citizen, i'm checking Saskia next. If Saskia is a citizen, then i'm thinking on Gennedy. If rena is a wolf, i'm still checking Saskia next. but it will eliminate Gennedy
WTF?!!! All you are saying is that I'm a wolf because I'm not pleasing you and it's suspicios that the wolf came when I came. There is no back-up info. All you have been doing since you've been active is try and find a reason to prove an imaginary gulit and get me killed. WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM??!!!!! Focus on the problem, MAYOR! You're focusing on me because I'm not pleasing you. I finally figured it out. It's not the people's opinions that turn people against me, it's YOU! You lead the people, they listen to you. But I've got the most expirience dealing with this monster and YOUR people listen to me and agree with me instead of following you and rejecting me! Mayor, I don't know what to say anymore. You're the worst piece of scum i've ever had my misfortune of meeting!
(ooc: No hard feeling October, just being in character)
My God Valkner. Everything that comes out of your mouth in dialogue is garbage. Just shut up and use your powers at night and tell us the results. For gods sakes, you make me want to lynch you, and I'm the only reason you're still alive.
He's focusing on you because he thinks your guilty, live with it. WE know your not, but he's just a politician.
(ooc: Its not australian slang :P)
Wow mayor, whats with people continuously saying, "your reason for voting..." or "your reason for not voting..." as if thats my only reason.
Quote: "Let's have a look at your reason not to vote for Valkner. "He's innocent. I know it, you know it." "
THATS NOT MY REASON FOR NOT VOTING HIM. ITS BECAUSE HE IS AN IMPORTANT ASSET.
(ooc: If you actually think that Seth made him an ex-werewolf hunter without investigative powers for finding werewolves then you're a joke)
If you're not just being a lousy politician and talking with no action, then you should be prepared to be lynched tomorrow, should valkner be lynched tonight. Mark my words.
Shisse! Now people are taking the possibility of lynching Valkner seriously? What have we become!?
We've become precisely what our dear, retarted, moronic excuse for a mayor has wanted us to become.
I'm not sure about things anymore... I'll have to rethink my position...
Werewolves Probabilites in my opinion.
ReichertIlseRenaClarissaClausGenndyValkner
I've left Saskia out because I'm just not sure where she stands. She could very well be a werewolf. I just don't like the thought that I've been linked to her. I was not bitten, there is a possibility that she was.
(ooc: yes Corinth, if I was a werewolf, I would have gotten a pm from seth)
Unvote: Rena
I've rethought this... In my opinion, Reichart Vandenburg seems to be trying to turn us against each other, much more so than Rena.
VOTE: Reichart Vandenburg
Naw
You misunderstand, I protected her, I just didn't use my ability to do it. (OOC: Seth had me there, and he very often takes control of characters at the beginning (TOUR GUIDE TIM anyone?) and it doesnt necesarilly mean that she's turned)
That last message did not tell you anything new.
Hmm... Reichart has claimed his ability, but it could be a werewolf ability as well as a citizen one...
ReichertIlseRenaClausGenndyValknerClarissa
My mistake. Do you still vote for Valkner?
And (Corinthian's character) I will reveal what I know. I tried to hide it, but now because of you blurting it out I have no choice but to reveal what I can do.
As you all know, I am a hunter. not a great werewolf hunter like Valkner, but I've had years of experience hunting wild beasts in the most dangerous forests in Europe. I can track people without them knowing it. Last night I tracked Clarissa Leveque. She didn't leave her house.
Both of the hunters were afraid of Clarissa being a werewolf apparently :P
and wow Grenndy, good call.
Well, what you're doing here is:
"Lets lynch the only true investigator we have, because I can't think of anything else to lynch, so that the wolves can attack someone at night and we won't even get to investigate anyone,"
Is that really in the best interest of the town, mayor?
The town begins to bicker amongst themselves. Conflicting theories emerge. Chaos seems inevitable.Current Vote Count:Valkner Loire (3) -- Saskia, Rena, ReichertRena Khazar (2) -- Ilse, ValknerSaskia Vandenberg (1) -- GenndyNo lynch (1) -- ClarissaReichert Vandenberg (1) -- ClausNot voting (1) -- William
I have no one to vote for. Reichart is being a bitch, Saskia is being mysterious. Why she votes Valkner is beyond me. Rena is only voting Valkner because she thought it was her only chance for survival. She will switch votes soon, I hope.
But still, nothing solid. I guess Saskia, Reichart are the only two Im close to choosing.