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Fallout TV Show

8 months ago

Well as much as I dislike going along with the unwashed masses, it was a cool show and I really didn’t find anything major wrong with it. Liked a lot of the various references, the general tone of the show, how it looked, just about everything.

Didn’t mind any of the characters though I was expecting Walton Goggins to knock it out of the park anyway since he’s been entertaining in just about everything he’s played in.

I particularly enjoyed the episode where the Ghoul is just a complete dick to Vault Girl. Pistol whipped her, used her as gulper bait, deliberately dehydrated her, marched her half barefoot through a rad zone, cut off her finger and then sold her to get her organs harvested.

I also like how in the first episode they hilariously establish that Vault Girl has fucked her cousin a few times.

I didn’t even mind the brotherhood guy though he’s not quite as interesting to watch as the other two, but then the BOS usually isn’t as interesting as other factions in the games.

As for the outrage about the NCR, well this probably isn’t a popular opinion for a lot of the fans of the older games, but I actually never cared for them when they popped up in Fallout 2. Maybe because it was California, I dunno.

I didn’t really hate them, I just never gave much of a shit about them (Though they were certainly better than the Legion) and I do believe that if the producers of the show really wanted the NCR out of the way for the series, they could have easily used shit that was already going on in the games with them rather than the convoluted way they actually did it.

Still, even with Shady Sands out of the way, I feel like it wouldn’t have completely collapsed. Maybe it hasn’t though there are still remnants of it.

I already knew the BOS were going to be in there. They do mention the Commonwealth very briefly, so I’m wondering if there were reinforcements or something to support the west coast since they were supposed to be on the brink of extinction by New Vegas. In this show they don’t even look like they’re in underground bunkers anymore and they’re just sort of shit in general, so I guess it’s at least an accurate representation of how far they’ve fallen.

And the Enclave, yeah sure bring them back again too I guess. The only thing with them is it is known they had an outpost in Chicago so they could still be around, but they would have to have severely less numbers than even the BOS.

It’s been suggested that since they’re supposed to be the direct successors of the old US government, they could have a lot more bases all over the US which is possible, but if true, they’ve been pretty fucking incompetent in mobilizing and getting their shit together to make America great again.

There was one big major plot hole with a character in not explaining how they were still alive for centuries, but going to chalk that up to cryogenic and guessing they’ll explain that at some point in the next season.

Which is already looking like its going to have New Vegas in it. Heard a lot of outrage about how new Vegas has been “erased” as well, but it’s clearly still there. I guess what “ending” happened in the game depends on if House is still alive in a stasis tube in the show.

Anyway, looking forward to season 2.

Fallout TV Show

8 months ago

Yeah this show rocked. I liked it way more than any of the Bethesda Fallouts, loved all the NV references.

It's interesting people are mad at the Mojave seemingly getting peckersmacked when the Vegas DLCs kind of imply that the Mojave is fucked because of the Tunnelers. Ulysses seems to think that it's only a matter of time before the Strip becomes a buffet for weird underground lizard guys 

Fallout TV Show

8 months ago

I dunno why so many people are getting mad about the Shady Sands thing even though Todd made it very clear a while ago that this show occurs after New Vegas, a game that often made a point about how the NCR was stretched thin and already on the verge of collapse.

 

Fallout TV Show

8 months ago
I loved it. I did hear a lot about New Vegas and really thought they did erase it so I'm ecstatic that next season will probably take place there.
I really enjoyed that Lucy's optimism was never her downfall. It was refreshing seeing a character rewarded for her hope.

Fallout TV Show

8 months ago

Her "Okey Dokeys" get sadder as the show goes on though.

Fallout TV Show

2 months ago

I like how her "This dude doesn't want to have sex with me" Okie Dokie, is sadder than her "Time to decapitate a guy" Okie Dokie. ^_^

Fallout TV Show

2 months ago

Ella Purcell is an amazing actress, tbh. Her portrayal as a teenage Maleficent, her upcoming serial killer role, even her voice work as Jinx in Arcane, really shows how she's capable of stepping into multiple different roles. I know that might seem kinda on par for someone whose job is acting, but considering the amount of actors/actresses who play like 20 different people that are basically the same person (John Wayne, Hugh Jackman, Jim Carrey, etc.), it's surprisingly refreshing. 

Fallout TV Show

8 months ago
Personally I also loved the show. I kinda fall somewhere in between the two camps about NV and Shady Sands since it is either a plot hole or a retcon no matter how much Todd lies about it in interviews, but I personally just don't give a shit since Bethesda kinda made skull-fucking the continuity of Fallout their favorite past time between re-re-re-releasing Skyrim. Seeing both the BoS and Enclave does nothing for me really for the same reason, but the whole thing from a character and plot perspective was fun with Walter being the standout and Lucy a pleasant surprise.

Far as the one plot hole if you mean who I think you mean then I'm pretty sure it's not the same character, just two characters played by the same actor to tie it into the whole pre/post apocalypse plots they had going in parallel. I'll avoid explaining further to not spoil anything since it's still a fresh show.

Fallout TV Show

7 months ago

Hated it. It felt like they had just skimmed through the wikipages of each fallout game and learned the basics of the story without bothering to actually look into the deeper themes. The lore was a wreck, filled to the brim with fanservice and shock humour to keep the fanboys distracted. Even Chris Avellone who wrote New Vegas called it out. They wrecked Fredrich Sinclair, they ruined the mystery of how the Great War started (even though it confirmed my own fan theory, I'm still annoyed because I enjoyed unravelling the answer, rather than having it just told directly to the audience like we're too dumb to put effort into theory crafting). My hopes were already nearly rock bottom but this was awful, just awful.

Fallout TV Show

2 months ago

When it comes to a guy who built an entire casino over a vault for a broad he met through a mutual acquaintance, that honestly sounds like something a lonely old man would do. It'd also explain why Vera wasn't interested in him but was topping Dooshnozzle Dean Domino. Remember, we don't actually get any confirmation as to Sinclair's age, and the only indication we get as to what he looks like is through mosaics that easily could've been him when he was younger. Dean says himself that the whole casino wasn't just for Vera, it was a vanity project.

As for the NCR, 2077 was referred to as the fall of shady sands, followed by a mushroom cloud. LA (the boneyard) is no longer patrolled by the NCR either. Here's the thing though, in NV, it's been made pretty clear that the NCR has fallen on hard times. Food shortages, power shortages, overextended military, corrupt government enriching themselves by favoring Brahmin Barons at the expense of the average citizen. Then you take into account that even if these events came to a head in 2077, they got severely worse after their defeat in the Mojave campaign (if NCR victory and Legion victory is not canon).
 

The NCR losing Hoover Dam would have been catastrophic, as they were extremely reliant on Hoover Dam for a large portion of their power and crops. Losing it also would have devalued their currency even further, causing mass inflation (their paper currency was backed with water). They basically would have been the equivalent of post WWI Germany. This is why Caesar wanted to get it and destroy it so badly. He knew that by taking it from the NCR, their fledgling country would be unsustainable. NCR had too large of a population to support without a massive increase in resources.

Add in the chaos of government upheaval immediately following the war (Kimball assassinated/impeached), and it's extremely likely that the NCR was already screwed, and as Shady Sands and the surrounding area was the capital, they would have been hit the hardest. This is likely to be what the chalkboard in the series was referring to by "The Fall of Shady Sands," and the nuke that followed was nothing more than the equivalent of shooting a terminally ill cancer patient in the head.

Honestly, what I'm more concerned about is Vegas. I put in a lot of work to make the Economic Free State of New Vegas a powerful entity. Seeing it annihilated like that... kinda pisses me off that everything pre-Fallout 4 was basically for nothing.

Fallout TV Show

2 months ago

Frankly I think Fallout:DUST did a better post-New Vegas storyline where the NCR completely goes to the dogs. That story was basically "what if every possible storyline ended in the worst way it possibly could?". 

Fallout TV Show

2 months ago

It's entirely possible they might just rip off some stuff from DUST to explain what happened to New Vegas next season.