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In time, you will know the extent of my failings

14 days ago

I can't stand "Game of Thrones" or any of that stuff, it really isn't for me at all. Yet I love The Witcher 3 and "Thronebreaker" games. And I think the reason why is worth talking about.

In regular "Dark Fantasy", the good characters get killed off, betrayed or shunted aside, and the darker characters get most of the limelight. I literally stopped watching GoT after One Season because (I'm not kidding) I said to myself "I hate all these characters so much that I don't care if the series ends with the city being burned down by dragons." Now, my unintentional prediction was slightly off, because it was "a dragon" rather than "dragons". But the point still sticks. 

But Dark Fantasy RPGs are different, because if you decide to play as a good character, your decisions don't get you killed off. But instead, you usually get punished HARD, while the evil decisions get you easy and quick rewards. So in such games, and I think the Witcher:Thronebreaker is a good example, trying to be the hero makes the game frustrating, difficult and stressful. Yet even in such cases, you can at least say "I did the right thing." 

I think "Dark Fantasy" stories have a lot of horrible messages, but "Dark Fantasy" video games like this give a very good, helpful and healthy message which very few other stories or media can manage. That feeling of "even if everything I do goes wrong, even if all this seems to be for nothing, even if everything falls apart and ends in disaster, at least I took the opportunity to spit in the Devil's eye".  And sometimes, just sometimes, if you persist enough through the slog, these games do give you a golden ending or a special reward, which is a wonderful little surprise.

In time, you will know the extent of my failings

14 days ago

Yeah, I think the problem here might be that you're a pink clopping ponyboy who can only engage with media if it's giving you explicit and didactic lessons about Right and Wrong. 

Also "there are no good characters in GoT" is such a common and stupid take and I have no idea where it comes from. Jon Snow, Sam Tarly, Brienne of Tarth and Davos Seaworth are all pretty noble and selfless characters who survive. There are even more if you stop being a show onlycel and get exposed to Septon Meribald, the most virtuous man in the Seven Kingdoms. 

In time, you will know the extent of my failings

14 days ago

Well, it certainly seems like one of us really, really enjoys taking every possible chance to talk about clopping. I'll leave it to the audience to guess who that is. 

In time, you will know the extent of my failings

14 days ago

Buddy, you're a grown man who is into MLP. I'm only giving voice to what every nervous person in your life is thinking as they discretely text your picture to an emergency contact. 

In time, you will know the extent of my failings

14 days ago

Welp, you killed him.

Guess the Grimdark Fantasy protagonist won this battle.

In time, you will know the extent of my failings

14 days ago
I can't leave these people alone for even one day I swear.

In time, you will know the extent of my failings

13 days ago
Dark fantasy is fantasy with horror elements. People need to stop misusing the term.

In time, you will know the extent of my failings

11 days ago

The funny thing is when we had a "Dark Fantasy" section on here, we suddenly got flooded with degenerates looking up fetish porn since apparently that's one of the names used within that sort of crowd.

Hence the change to Grimdark Fantasy which is a better name anyway.

In time, you will know the extent of my failings

11 days ago
Malk has a point (as much as I hate to say it). Why do you have to look for meaning in every piece of media you enjoy? I like books, but I don't sit down and marvel about philosophy over them. The only books I do that with are liteary fiction, that's what the fucking genre is about. The point of GoT (I've only read the first book and watched the first season, but I enjoyed it a lot even though my favorite character died), is to explore this world with these interesting characters. And you can muse about how interesting their perspectives are, but just because Cersei is the worst ever and the book rewards her for it (it doesn't later) doesn't mean that it's somehow infeior to LoTR because it's sending a "bad message", whatever that means.

In time, you will know the extent of my failings

10 days ago

Well no point in wasting a perfectly good grimdark fantasy thread.

If Flutter had stuck around, I would have suggested he play Darkest Dungeon (Assuming he hadn't already) since its all about fighting unspeakable evil in a grimdark setting. The characters mostly range from morally gray to outright good. Even most of the gray characters are trying to atone in some way.