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10 years ago

Does anyone know where I can find a good website or story or something about the devil being in love with God? I've checked nineteen pages of Google results.

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10 years ago

HAHAHAAA thank you, I can go to bed with a good laugh now.

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10 years ago

I'm serious. And the love shouldn't be a "pure" love. It should have slash.

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10 years ago
Wow, Nevermind finally posted something mildly amusing.

Seriously though if you're having problems finding such "literary work" on something as filthy as the internet, you're just sucking hard at using the search function.

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10 years ago

What?

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10 years ago

If you can't find it...then why don't you make it and post it on the site.

Although I'm pretty sure that JJJ would ban it.

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10 years ago
What, we can't have God/Satan slash fic on this site?

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10 years ago

I don't think so, but if Nevermind decides to release it...

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10 years ago

JJJ is not going to ban anything.

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10 years ago

Although he may delete it. (He's done it with Nevermind in the past)

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10 years ago
Delete the thread not the storygames.

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10 years ago

I can see how he would delete the thread, but why wouldn't he delete the storygame?

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10 years ago
I have never seen him delete a story game in the past.

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10 years ago

remember that story game nevermind released that literally had three words to a page and two links?

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10 years ago
No. Should I?

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10 years ago

Exactly ;)

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10 years ago
I still have that.

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10 years ago

Lol, I know 3J deleted it. first it was on the new story list, then it wasn't (as in the one it replaced was there again) Plus, if you look on your profile, you have no published storygames and for the longest time there was only one unpublished story on your profile, no published ones. Plus the fact that the published story was no longer there.

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10 years ago
I disabled Sneak Preview. I thought it might be best.

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10 years ago

Why did you delete that story? It was a masterpiece, it deserved a spot in the top storygame section, it easily trumped every story on this site.

 

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10 years ago

It was JJJ-thebanisher.

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10 years ago

you know, there's this really nice one called the Bible. You might want to check that out.

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10 years ago
The devil is in love with god? Wow. That's a desperate reach for a plot twist if I've ever heard one XD

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10 years ago

The Devil loved God more than anything else in the universe, he was an angel after all. He loved God so much he refused to love humans because they were flawed and violent (ironyyyyy). That's one telling of the story anyway.

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10 years ago
So...I don't get it, what's so evil about him?

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10 years ago

Hates humans, mad at God for exiling to that Hell-hole (literally), etc. It basically caused him to snap, but he still "loves" God, in a twisted little way I guess. There are several tellings of the story, that's just one of them.

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10 years ago
For someone who is supposed to represent evil, he doesn't strike me as being that evil. At least, there are better candidates that come to mind.

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10 years ago

He's still responsible for temptation, causing evil in humans, miscarriages (I heard one of the original texts blamed that on Lillith, but she isn't really referenced anymore.), wars, plagues, and other evil things.

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10 years ago
I thought God was the one that used plagues? Wasn't that sort of his way to punish people?

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10 years ago

In olden times when it was required. Like when the Egyptians wouldn't let the Jews go.

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10 years ago
Aaah.

So...despite the fact that he supports free will, he will not allow humans to enslave one another?

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10 years ago

Bo, when was the last time you read your bible? thats not how it went at all. Satan envied Gods power and claimed he was greater, 1/3 of the angels beleived him then God cast Satan and his angels out of heven.

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10 years ago

That's one story. Like I said, there are several stories about how things went down in more than one story in the Bible. I personally don't like to limit myself in believing what only one thing tells me, so I did some research. Christian history (both the history of their beliefs and of the Christian people themselves) is fascinating, regardless of what religion you practice.

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10 years ago

in more than one place in the Bible*

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10 years ago
Yes there are many religions that tells the story differently.

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10 years ago

Lol, like Christianity :)

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10 years ago
And Catholicism.

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10 years ago

umm... you do realize that Catholicism is a Christian sect, right?

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10 years ago
I've read the bible. Cover to cover. And there is not one mention of the devil being a former angel. Most of the story of Satan's fall comes from extra-biblical sources. Even the idea that the snake in the Garden of Eden is the devil isn't in the bible, but rather it is "believed to be" by theologians who spend way too much time thinking about things like that.

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10 years ago

Then, the theologists think that it was because the snake was a symbol of some religion prior to Christianity. (Most religions find way to make the sybols of other religions evil to gain converts and raise anti-other religion sentiment to prevent converts)

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10 years ago
I've got a story for you. God is perfect, right? How does something become perfect? Why, by shedding all imperfections! The angels are just the imperfections of God. He's perfect and they are nearly so. So God tells these angels to create the universe. So the bible says "God created the Heaven and Earth" but it was as if god ordered the construction of it. The angels built it.

Lucifer was the greatest of the angels. He was lucky, too, since he was God's right hand man. Lucifer loved God. He loved working for Him, loved obeying Him, loved sitting in His light and worshiping Him. It was a good life for Lucifer and the angels, doing God's good work.

But then God created Humanity in the Garden that Lucifer and the angels built. And you know what? The angels all loved humanity. They loved them the way a parent loves their child, the way a creator loves their creations. The angels wanted nothing more than to show the new humans all the wonders of the Garden. I mean, the angels created the Garden for them!

But God said that the angels couldn't communicate with the humans. They were not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge. They were not to know about the angels. Humans were to live innocent lives of ignorant bliss. God commands this. Confused but obedient, the angels agreed.

Lucifer tried, though, to indirectly get these humans to see the wonders of the world. The wonders of music, of dancing, of sex, of the endless joy that comes from love. There were beautiful sunsets, beautiful birdsongs, beautiful pools of water. But the humans ignored it all.

Then one day there was trouble on the horizon. The angels could sense something bad was coming. But what were they to do? Should Lucifer reveal himself to the humans he loves to warn them of danger? Or should he obey the God he loves and leave them defenseless to the unknown danger that is racing towards them?

Lucifer was torn. What was he to do? But Lucifer was not perfect. Afterall, he was just an imperfection, a cast off from God. His flaw was his pride. He thought that he could save the people. He thought that he knew what God didn't, that he knew God would want him to help. So Lucifer appeared to the humans and offered them knowledge, offered them the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, so that they would be able to deal with the calamity that was coming.

God was not happy that Lucifer disobeyed. God cast him out of paradise, him and the angels that agreed with him. The humans were cast out, too, for disobeying God.

This made Lucifer confused. Why would God do this to him? He was trying to save God's Creation! So Lucifer kept trying to help, to get back in God's good graces. He gave humans their technology. He taught them how to build cities, how to farm, how to create wealth. He gave them these gifts because he loved humanity. He wanted to make this new world as good as the Garden.

But it doesn't work. Money, fame, material things. These don't make humans happy in their souls the way the love of God did. They are empty things. Lucifer tries and tries, tempts humans to worldly pleasures because he thinks he knows best, he thinks he can elevate them back to the Garden on his own.

But, of course he can't. He's killing the people he loves by helping them. If only he'd let go, let them find God on their own, let them find their own peace, then they'd be truly happy. But Lucifer can't. His pride prevents him from admitting he's wrong. He can't go back to God and say "I'm sorry, I was wrong." It's just not in his nature.

So the world goes on, the devil leading humans into sin "for their own good." Everyone loses because one angel won't get over himself and admit his sin and beg forgiveness from the one he loves, from the one he disobeyed.

How's that for a God/Satan love story?

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10 years ago
So Satan isn't evil at all. Not even remotely. He's a misguided saint.

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10 years ago

Many, many different tellings of the story, that's just closest to the one I believe.

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10 years ago
Isn't it evil to disobey God? Isn't it evil to tempt others away from worshiping God? Isn't it evil to deny the ones you love a good, fulfilling life because of your own stubbornness? Isn't it evil to think you know best, to follow your own convictions, your own good intentions right to hell?

More people deal with that kind of evil than they do with psychopathic torture rapists. More people can relate to that kind of evil. A devil like this is one you can see in yourself because he isn't a horrible monster. He's us.

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10 years ago

Which is why I like that story better, I believe that humans are all basically evil.

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10 years ago
I think that all people are generally good. Ha, maybe you're just hanging around the wrong people, then!

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10 years ago
I think evil is an opinion. I don't think there is an "evil'o meter" or something like that. Evil in the old days meant something very different than it does now, simply because it shifted with the society.

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10 years ago
Well that's just your opinion, man.

Actually, I think of evil in the evolutionary biology way. People evolved as a social animal. We instinctively do some things and avoid others. It's just traits we evolved. So things that go against our "gut feeling", I think, can be called evil. Stealing from your friends and family. Killing for no reason. Betraying someone's trust. Generally mistreating others. We're built to avoid these things, to hate them. As much as we evolved to like sweet things more that putrid things, we like friendly people more than assholes.

Evil, then, is being a dick. A violent one or just a backstabber at the office. Most people are good since we evolved that way. Those who are acting against this, well, I feel comfortable calling them evil.

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10 years ago
Yes, as I said, evil is a social construct. It is viewed differently by each individual, and so, it is not just one obsolete thing.

Also, I see Satan more as a child, trying to help his father, but ends up making things worse. Absolutely nothing evil about him (and from what I know about christianity, God seems more evil than Satan)

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10 years ago

I mean like seriously, it would be a really great story and I'm not really able to imagine it properly.

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10 years ago

If anybody wants me to, I'm willing to post the facts as I see them.

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10 years ago
*cricket chirping*

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10 years ago

Not appreciated.

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10 years ago

neither is the story

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10 years ago
Um I could really care less.

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10 years ago

Oh good. I'm so glad you haven't yet lost all enthusiasm for my scenario.

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10 years ago
Nope not all of it.

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10 years ago

Wonderful.

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10 years ago

whawhawhawhawhawhawhawhawhat? You actually have a pic? This must be a good week for profile pics.

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10 years ago

I just uploaded it. There's a bunch of other ones on my profile now. All of them are basically either angels or skulls.

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10 years ago
Mine is of a guy made of lightnings. Your argument is invalid.

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10 years ago

Yours is nonsensical.

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10 years ago

Mine is of Karn the Silver Golem planeswalker trapped in a corrupted throne. He created an entire metallic world... so your argument is invalid.

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10 years ago
Dayum. Seems I am defeated.

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10 years ago

Why are we talking about peoples' profile pictures? Let's talk about what happened between God and the Devil.

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10 years ago

We already talked about that, Guanyin won.

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10 years ago

No, no. The LOVE. The KISS. The FALL.

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10 years ago

There was love, I highly doubt there was a kiss, then there was a fall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4&feature=related

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10 years ago
I don't think anyone has any idea what you're talking about. Are you looking for any story about God and Satan in love or are you asking for out help in finding a specific one? Are you looking for a story where they have a sexual or intimate relationship or one where they just love each other? What are you after, here?

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10 years ago

Through PM, I gathered she was talking about a homoerotic God/Satan relationship. She messaged me about seeing one of my former profile pics from an image search when she typed in God Devil kiss.

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10 years ago

Any story. They may have had sex once before the fall, but they could have just kissed. They should not have a relationship afterwards, and both of them, but the Devil especially, should be really miserable becuase of the fall and the subsequent lack of a relationship.

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10 years ago
That's... that's a very specific request.

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10 years ago

someone watches a bit too much south park...

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10 years ago

What's south park?

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10 years ago

... It's probably best if you didn't know

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10 years ago

In that case, tell me.

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10 years ago

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10 years ago

My computer isn't loading videos right now.

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10 years ago
Don't they cater to this sort of request on 4chan or fanfic.net? Pretty sure someone would write a story like that on either site or similar sites.

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10 years ago

People write fanfic on 4chan? I went there once and cleared out lol.

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10 years ago

Technically, what I'm looking for isn't fanfiction. And there are two 4chans. One is a porn search engine.

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10 years ago
I only know about one 4chan. And yes, you sure can search for porn there. Weird porn.

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10 years ago

Well, there's another.

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10 years ago

You don't even search on the one I went to. It was a forum site, then  no matter what forum you go to (or thread) you get porn... so I cleared out.

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10 years ago

Surely you can stand a little porn for the sake of seeing 4chan.

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10 years ago
Yep, that's 4chan. I like it, believe it or not. I just ignore all of the racists, misogynists, and anti-Semites (which describes more than half of the posts there) and stick to the image boards. Avoid /b/ to keep your sanity, though.

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10 years ago

You know what I found hilarious? I tried going back a few months later (I think 7), and I couldn't click on the misc. tab, and I'm assuming no one could without having an account anymore. However, the porn forums were still perfectly blue and clickable.

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10 years ago
Nope. I just checked it out. I'm on there now. But I'm leaving because I don't really have a reason to be there (except to see if you were right and they passworded it; they didn't).

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10 years ago

Strange

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10 years ago
I dunno never been there, but from all the weird stuff I hear about being on 4chan, I figured something like that would be on there.

Anyway I found a story where the God and Devil have a romantic relationship, but I'm not telling Nevermind where I found it.

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10 years ago

Then you didn't find it.

Death is watching. . . .

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10 years ago

Honestly, with all the creeps running around the internet, I'm really surprised you didn't find one. I'm sure you could easily find it on google alone.

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10 years ago

Please don't, next thing we know we're gonna have Religous Erotica floating around here.

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10 years ago

But I don't want it to be choose your own adventure.

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10 years ago
Religious Erotica? Would that go under Fantasy or Romance?

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10 years ago

Lololol, I maybe Edutainment?

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10 years ago

I'd say Romance.

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10 years ago

Well, I found something on FictionPress.com that could sort of be thought of as that, I guess (though the author says it's a metaphor), but it's not really satisfying.

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10 years ago

And that was an accident.

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10 years ago

So basically, there's one story that doesn't even really count, and isn't on the search. The Internet is a wonderful place.

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10 years ago

Yay! I found that author again! FINALLY!

By the way, everyone, the devil is not the bad guy. It's God.

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10 years ago

Are you honestly calling the devil a good guy, i have never heard more ignorance in my life.

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10 years ago

I'm not saying he's good. . .but God is worse.

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10 years ago

See, love, God is omnipotent. You know what that means? That means he can do whatever he wants--like stopping the devil from being "evil", or preventing anything bad from ever happening, and he can do it without any cost to himself. And he doesn't. He doesn't even stop some bad things from happening. Therefore, he is not the good guy.

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10 years ago
Is it ignorant to call the devil a good guy, or is it ignorant to refuse to look at a subject in more than one point of view.

Anyway, Facedown, Nevermind posts on here for attention, responding to her in any format is what we like to call "feeding the troll". We call it this because responding to them only gives them what they want and makes them stronger as they have more to troll about. So in the future it would probably be best to leave Nevermind's commetns alone, as what any of us say won't make a bit of difference.

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10 years ago

No, I posted because I was genuinely glad to have found that author again, as several stories they have written are worthy of my favorites, and I thought I might as well tell you the truth about God (who doesn't exist) while I was at it.

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10 years ago

Look what I just found! How dare you link me to such an evil character?!?!!

He-Man

Like most gay men of the past, He-Man splits his time between two identities. During his everyday life he is Prince Adam, whose outfit of choice is tights under a button-up shirt.

While this getup is presumably meant to throw everybody off the scent of the fabulousness that pulses under the surface, he probably could have come up with a better disguise than "middle-aged woman on her way to aerobics class."

When he's He-Man, he wears fur underwear, boots and basically anything he can get his hands on that will make him look like he should be dancing in a cage at a gay bar. That's really the only thing that changes about his appearance. His clothes manage to get like 100 percent gayer, his pet tiger gets braver and he starts shooting gobs of energy out of a big phallic sword.

For some reason, he thinks this is enough to convince his best friend from childhood Teela that Adam and He-Man are two completely different people. No glasses, no masks, just less clothing and the sword. Teela plays along, but we're pretty sure she's just humoring him: "Hey Ada ... I mean He-Man. What a super masculine name that is by the way. In no way does its redundant masculinity suggest that you are attempting to cover anything up. Nor, do your naked bulging muscles."

 

Real-world gay counterpart:

The Sopranos' Vito Spatafore, played by Joseph R. Gannascoli. He leads a double life just like He-Man. Instead of using a muscled physique to overcompensate, he kills people.



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10 years ago

You can tell just by looking at him that he's gay in the same way as bobmcbob or maybe Sigmund Freud! And his disguise is just changing his clothes from stupid to stupider! And he has nothing to do with the topic of the thread!

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10 years ago

I figured it out. Now I feel like an idiot.

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10 years ago

Being a Christian, I have no objections against such stories. Unlike some other Christians. I actually know that its' all mythylogical. Just like any religion of course. But, like other following any religion. I believe in the bible. Might as well believe in something.

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10 years ago
If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.

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10 years ago

I stand for the non-existence of any sort of god or supernatural entity.

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10 years ago

In other words, for the Truth.

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10 years ago
God is truth by its very deffinition.

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10 years ago

All i could think of the devil being in love with God was in the tv show supernatural (season 5)

Lucifer says he is misunderstood, that he was punished for "loving God too much"- ep 5.01

He tells Lucifer that he has no legitimate grievance, he is merely jealous that humanity replaced him in God's affections- ep 5.19


Lucifer tries to dissuade Michael from the fight, blaming their conflict on God, and suggesting they walk away- ep 5.22.

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10 years ago
Love that season, unfortunately I couldn't see all of it, but what I saw was pretty cool.

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10 years ago

Yeah it was gud, they really should of finished of Supernatural with season 5. Season 6 was preti so so

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10 years ago

Everyone, please quit using my thread to talk about TV shows.

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10 years ago

Everyone, please stop using Nevermind's thread in order to bump it even though no one wants to pay attention to it any more. No wait... that was just nevermind :P

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10 years ago

He-man is stupid and it's your fault. I hate you.

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10 years ago
HEMAN! and the masters of the Universe!

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10 years ago

Are both evil and stupid!

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10 years ago
#1.
He-Man

A lot has been made about the homosexual themes in the He-Man universe. And, many a young male began examine their He-Man action figure, feeling oddly uncomfortable at the sight of his flowing Prince Valiant hair-do, his oiled, ridiculously muscled torso and tiny furred Speedo. And, a look on his face that conveyed the act of physical love, captured in mid-grunt.

If He-Man represented a more subtle form of molestation, Skeletor was the polar opposite. His studded black leather costume was reminiscent of a demonic leather daddy, who could have easily graced the covers of many a death-metal album and certain magazines they always sold behind the counter at the convenience store. Way behind.

Worst Toy in the Line:

Some of you are turning up your noses at the idea of homosexual overtones--we assure you, we do not take the topic lightly.

Let us simply list for you some names of actual He-Man characters:

Ram-Man

Tung Lashor

Mantenna

Stinkor

Snout Spout

Extendar

Still not convinced?


Sure?


We thus present you with: FISTO.

Case closed.



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9 years ago
How much more evidence do I have to give you to prove that He-Man sucks? #6.
She-Ra: Princess of Power

Based On:
The She-Ra series of Mattel toys, a spinoff of the more popular He-Man line.

Sucked Because:
It was essentially a gender-flipped version of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe meant to appeal to girls. But, the girls who wanted a He-Man-style series were just fine with watching He-Man. Meanwhile, boys who weren't turned off by She-Ra or by the character of Madame Razz (basically a drag king impersonating He-Man' Orko) found it hard to accept the token-male character, a bard named Bow. Bow essentially filled the same ecological niche as Eric Erlandson, the guy who played guitar in Hole; no matter how hard you rock, it' still totally emasculating to be the token dude in a chick band.

Compounding the problem, his appearance couldn't possibly have been gayer. Not only did he sing and play harp, but he sported a thick mustache and a heart on the chest of his uniform.

Evidence from the Title Sequence:
While most intros choose to dramatize the origin story, She-Ra directly addresses the camera and explains she' He-Man' twin sister, the producers figuring little girls' smaller brains couldn't be trusted to pick up on image cues. The end result is an intro that comes off feeling like a PSA about magical swords.



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9 years ago
Reads cracked literally=disregard. So much misinformation on cracked.

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9 years ago
You know alot about He-Man..or will go to any length to be right.

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9 years ago
Probably a bit of both.

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9 years ago

Just the first one. I don't know anything about He-Man, because he sucks.

Well, I didn't know anything about him.

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9 years ago
How did this conversation develop this way?I like it :)
So...random

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9 years ago

Admit that I am right! And find those stories I want!

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9 years ago

Find them. Now.

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9 years ago

This is an incredible and entertaining topic.  Kudos to all who posted.  Y'all rock.

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9 years ago

Why, thank you.

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9 years ago

Okay. Ten.