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Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

I've always wanted to visit an out-of-America country :(

It's quite strange I have never been out of the U.S.A.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago
I hear North Korea is great this time of year.

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9 years ago

Strange. My dad is currently the head peace dealer with the South Korea to lead them against North Korea.

Could just be me. If I'm not mistake ;)

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9 years ago

I want to go to Denmark. It's cold, 90% irreligious, 90% vegetarian, the animal welfare laws are reasonable and very Peter Singer-y, and it is one of the few Scandinavian countries where yanking off in public is still illegal.

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9 years ago

Is it fox-friendly? 

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9 years ago

Fur farming is completely illegal. I don't know how they stand on hunting and trapping, though, and I honestly don't care to know, at the moment.

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9 years ago

I think I know a fox hotel in it. Hmm.......they don't allow credit card. Do you have fur checks? 

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9 years ago

Umm...I don't use claims on any part of my body to facilitate transactions.

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9 years ago

Ah. Sorry buddy, but now they say the deal is off. Looks like you won't be going there any time soon *pat pat*

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9 years ago

Sounds nice.

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9 years ago

Good, so sometime when I visit I get to keep my hair past customs.

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9 years ago

I've lived in Denmark for some time. Believe me, most people are far from vegetarian. The official national dish is crispy pork, and there's about 2-4 pigs for every Dane in the country :p Sex with animals has been illegal for a few years now though...

Denmark's a nice country though, am actually thinkinf of moving back myself.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

D'oh. Well, we all draw from bad wells sometimes.

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9 years ago
What is a fox doing drinking from a well? Go find a nice stream or pond.

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9 years ago

I don't drink from them; I just draw water from them for armless Tanzanian orphans. I guess I should still stop, though.

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9 years ago
They'll never learn to cope if you keep enabling them.

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9 years ago
It's actually not that strange considering the US is a first world country that's fucking massive and has about as much of anything else as any other country. Unless you want to see a jungle or the salt flats, the US pretty much has every other natural scenery you can think of somewhere.

For those who live in Europe it's different because it's a small group of many languages, cultures, and ethnicities. They have plenty incentive to take a day trip to the neighboring country to see something completely different. In the US, pretty much everyone speaks English, Spanish, or a Native American language; and it's all spread very far apart. The size of the US is a deterrent for travel - it'd take a few days to get from the swamps of Georgia to the desert of New Mexico, and that's not even a long route compared to other travel destinations!

If you want to visit an out-of-US country there's only 2 choices: Mexico or Canada. In Europe there's a solid 4 choices and the longest of those choices will probably just take a weekend. Keep in mind I'm talking about driving distance and convenience. If you're taking a plane it still takes a large chunk of time to go from one side of the US to the other; and a day to go across the ocean from wherever to visit another country which has things you probably could have found in the US. If you go to France, the only thing France has that the US doesn't is a population of mostly French people and tbh nobody really likes French people to begin with so I'd take my chances and just go to Vegas to see an Eiffel tower. (I'm aware France has other things the US doesn't - but I don't think they are worth the travel unless you have greater incentive besides "I want to see a country outside the US")

So, it's not very strange at all that you've never been outside the US. In fact, most people born in the US don't leave. People come to the US for a reason - it's usually better than their country. People in the US don't leave for a reason - it's usually better than whatever country they could afford to go to.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

Woah. That was a big, solid response. I disagree with maybe a few, but you pretty much summarized it. The only problem I have with the U.S is the crime and psycho rate. They do it for like, zero reason most of the time. I can understand mentally ill, but come on guys!

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago
In a first world country, a sensible, law-abiding person really shouldn't be concerned about crime.

Crime statistics are rather inaccurate since a crime has to be reported in the first place to be registered, which means all unreported crimes go without count.

Sure there are places and cities in the U.S. that are less desirable and have a higher infestation of vermin, but you'll find that anywhere you go. If you aren't a moron, undertake common sense safety measures and stay away from the obviously shady areas, you have a very low likelihood of being a victim of violent crime.

Lighting is a huge crime deterrent. So are groups of people. This is why College Slut Sally can teeter totter up and down Main St. with her pack of sorority girlfriends completely wasted beyond belief and be totally fine. But sober College Moron Michelle gets raped when she decides to take the dark alley shortcut home by herself, or god forbid, willingly goes into the dark alley because she heard someone call her to come talk to them.

Don't walk alone in unfamiliar places, especially after dark. Don't go to areas that lack lighting and are easily accessed by the general public, such as a public park after sunset. Don't go for a stroll through the ghetto.

Criminals tend to prey on the stupid and other degenerates.

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9 years ago

That is what should be written in the constitution. Or something. It needs to get written down 0_0

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9 years ago

Umm, didn't we just gang bang mason for bashing rape victims?

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9 years ago
Really, James?

I'm hardly saying anyone deserves to be the victim of a violent crime. But that doesn't preclude someone from being a moron about their personal safety. Society is not a utopia, nor will it ever be. To think otherwise is a grand delusion. Aspiring for such a state is certainly admirable, but expectations need to be grounded in reality.

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9 years ago

That's not what Mason said either, only that men should be physically strong enough to avert rape, thus implying either that men don't get raped or that men who get raped are weak. You said that criminals tend to prey on the stupid and degenerate, implying that crime victims are generally stupid or degenerate. There is literally no qualitative difference between what Mason said and what you said.

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9 years ago
There is a tremendous difference.

To clear any possible misconceptions on where I stand. If you're a criminal, you're a degenerate. If you willingly associate with criminals, you're probably a degenerate. If you like to masturbate into ice cream and cry while you watch sad movies because you're so broke up about your online girlfriend dumping you, you're actually not a degenerate in this context. But you need professional help. If you put yourself in harm's way, beyond normal standards of sensibility, you're being stupid. If you have the IQ of a lobotomized chipmunk, you're actually not stupid in this context. But I'm surprised you're able to breathe.

A large amount of crime is in fact committed by criminals against other criminals or people who associate with said criminals. Obviously, not all, or even necessarily a majority, but a substantive amount. You don't see too many headlines about how outstanding Teacher of Year Mrs. Henderson got burglarized by Gary the dope smoker. He's too busy stealing the X-Box systems from people he knows, from houses he has familiarity with.

Crime most often happens when a "potential criminal" is allowed an opportunity. Why? The simple answer is because it's easy. Associating with criminals - or even people who aren't criminals themselves, but do in fact associate with criminals - grants them additional opportunity due to familiarity. (Of course, it can go on a different tangent and just suck you into the life of crime. This is how many young kids wind up in gangs. And it's the same vein of concern the Philadelphia Eagles had with Desean Jackson's alleged gang ties.) There are a number of scenarios that are simply irresponsible to subject yourself or others to, which result in this crime opportunity. Some are more drastic or stupid than others.

Walking alone, in the dark, in an unfamiliar place, in an area that is easily publicly accessed would be on the higher end of stupid, yet people do it anyway. You're making yourself a target, and that is stupid. There are almost always other options, even in emergencies and dire circumstances.

Leaving your car unlocked and a phone, wallet, etc. on the passenger seat while you go shopping would be on the lower end. Now, on a side-note, I've heard some people make the ridiculous claim that locking your doors only keeps honest people out, but that's such an overwhelming load of crock. There are most certainly people that are willing to go up to a car and try the handle (or just stick an arm through a lowered window), but not willing to smash a window to lift the $50 some bucks you have in your wallet.

We had a girl my senior year of college, walking alone, at dark, on a side street, who heard someone calling her to him from deep within an even darker and narrower alley. There's a fair number of good or decent ways to react to that, but what she did was unfathomably foolish. She willingly, without any coercion, walked into the alley to see what the mystery man wanted. She promptly got robbed at knife point once she entered the alley. Thankfully, that's all that happened, and she was left unharmed.

Did she deserve to get robbed? Hell no. Did she help write the scene? Hell yes.

A similar, but not perfect, comparison can be made to riding a motorcycle. Consider...

SUBJECT A: Dies in a traffic accident while riding his motorcycle, through no fault of his own in regards to obeying the traffic laws. He wore a helmet.

SUBJECT B: Dies in a traffic accident while riding his motorcycle, through no fault of his own in regards to obeying the traffic laws. He did not wear a helmet. His state did not have a helmet law.

SUBJECT C: Dies in a traffic accident while riding his motorcycle, through no fault of his own in regards to obeying the traffic laws (except...). He did not wear a helmet. His state has a helmet law.

All are unfortunate.

SUBJECT A: did nothing wrong whatsoever.

SUBJECT B: did nothing wrong legally, yet he took an unnecessary and stupid risk that may have cost him his life. It may not have mattered, but it could have.

SUBJECT C: committed a crime. He took an unnecessary and stupid risk that may have cost him his life. It may not have mattered, but it could have. Laws such as helmet laws exist for a reason, ignoring them is not only stupid, but criminal.

God grants you the power to bring one back to life (or Satan or Allah or Mickey Mouse if you're so inclined). All else is equal. Personally, I cannot rationalize any sane or fair alternative that bringing back SUBJECT A. He followed the law, and he acted with reasonable caution. Fate wrote his script, of that there is no question.

That NFL player for the Ravens just died the other week, driving a dirtbike, an illegal motorized vehicle, on a US roadway, when he was collided with another vehicle. The dirtbike had no headlights. He wore dark clothing. It was night. Sure, his death is unfortunate. No, he did not deserve to die. But he contributed to his death to an extent well beyond the reaches of normal circumstance.

A kid a year or two below me in High School decided to get drunk and race around winding back roads at 90 mph in the heart of icy winter with two girls in the car. He hit a telephone pole, rolled the car. One of the girls broke her arm. The other broke her spine. If I recall correctly, one of the first things they saw was the guy's decapitated head.

Was this stupid? Yes. Was this criminal? Yes. Did he deserve punishment? Yes. Did he contribute to his own victimization (for lack of a better word)? Yes. Did he deserve to die? No. Would this have happened if he had acted within the realms of normal sanity and behavior? No.

And that is precisely the difference between my stance and what mason posted. And it makes a world of difference. No one expects the Average Joe to be super fit or buff. But we expect everyone to act within normal standards of sensibility.

There are actions that you can take that fall within a normal realm of sanity while going about everyday doings. And you can still have a violent crime committed against you, even if you didn't do anything foolish. But crimes of that fashion are not the norm. Most are born from creating an opportunity, often by blatant stupidity or lack of self awareness.

So you really want to argue that calling sober College Moron Michelle an idiot for walking alone, on a side street, in the dark, and then entering a darker, narrower alley at the random beck and call of a mystery man and getting raped is the same as saying if you're a man and you get raped, you should have been strong enough, or worked out beforehand, to not get raped? Really? Are you kidding me?

EDIT: That last paragraph, admittedly has more snark than necessary, less than paragon, per se.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago
Wow, down tiger. Down! No need to show fangs, lol.

But I honestly agree with you 100%.

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9 years ago

I don't see fangs. He assertively defended his statements without insulting me; that's more than I get from most people on here.

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9 years ago
I actually like James. The comparison did irk me though.

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9 years ago

Beautiful. Just beautiful.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago
"gang bang" "rape victim" ;D I see what you did there

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9 years ago

England, Sweden, Switzerland, and Denmark are all countries that are pretty nice outside the U.S.

There comes a time when you just need to leave this place.

Mexico though, all those retirees actually built there own semi small town with shops and condos walled off with security near rocky point. They've been taking up all the dunes ;(

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

I've been south to Florida for a week and north to Canada for a week; so I've technically left the US, but I've still never left my time zone. :/

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9 years ago
You've never left your time zone? o-o holy shit - you're on another level entirely!

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

Wow. I'm not going to ask any personal questions, but what "age zone" are you in? Like, kid, teen, or adult?

'Cause it would be crazy if you are an adult then.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago
I'm 17 years old - but I've moved all over the country and other countries so never going out of a timezone seems almost as odd as never leaving the same state.

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9 years ago

Yeah, that's what I'm asking him. Must be amazing to never be out of your time zone as a parent. That would be crazy, right!

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9 years ago

I'm 19. Not exactly something to brag about—or be proud about at all, really—but at least I've never suffered from jet lag?

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9 years ago

You're...younger than me?

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

...Surprise!

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

You're a 19 year old bone? I'm a 14 year old, part human, part fox spirit hybrid.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

20 years old. Not quite sure what the Hell I am.

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9 years ago

Ah, don't worry James. *Looks at what the heck I am*.

This is a dark time for both of us ;(

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9 years ago

You are a jar.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

Except for the times when I'm a herp, yeah.

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9 years ago

... Damn, really? I always pictured you as being closer to my age. 

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9 years ago

Yeah, I did picture you as being a bit older, but it's not really surprising. It's scary how the internet can mask someone's age just by the way they talk (or type). You're pretty talented for a 19-year old I must say!

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9 years ago

I guess I have the internet to thank for that! The age thing's so true, though. I'm pretty sure I've misjudged just about everyone's age on here.

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9 years ago

How old do you think I am?

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9 years ago
I thought BD was a 40 year old living secretly in a random basement somewhere in America - coding, eating, shitting in the corner, etc.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

What age do you think I am?

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9 years ago
10 - 12

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9 years ago

Older, man!

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9 years ago

There's still hope.

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9 years ago

Holy shit, same here! *high fives*

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9 years ago

Hmm, really? I figured he was an ancient dragon living secretly in a random cave - coding, eating, and shitting in the corner...

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9 years ago

Or when you're a scalie.  ;)

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9 years ago

Uh, that too. :þ

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9 years ago

Quit saying your age! It ruins the magic. I honestly pictured you as a lonely 40 year old man with far too much time on his hands and no social life. Now see! That's far more interesting.

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9 years ago
The Netherlands, England, Ireland, Scotland, Belgium, France, Spain, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Greece, Malta and Egypt.
Just sayin. It's quite a strange thought to me that some people haven't been out of their home country, but, you know, the US is big.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

Stooooppp.

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9 years ago
Why?

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9 years ago

Envy.

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9 years ago
Envious? Of Europe? Rent a car, take a week off and I'll guarantee you can go through at least 7-8 countries.

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9 years ago

Oh wow how great for you

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9 years ago

*pat*

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9 years ago

No, Kiel. You'll just rub it in even more.

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9 years ago

=D *rubrubrub*

Jokes aside, you're still young. If you really wanna go... somewhere different, in spite of the dangers, diseases, and general discomforts of travel, I'm positive you can find an opportunity.

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9 years ago

You have a real knack for making travel seem alluring :p

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9 years ago

I've moved 26 times, dude. Sure, there are some sights in this world that I'd like to see in person, but the experience of getting there? Traveling in itself? I'm as over it as I can possibly be.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

I've been all over my country and into Mexico, but this thread isn't asking who has been out...

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9 years ago

I've been to the US a couple times. It's... like a warmer Canada, with better soda. Also, more Confederate flags. Not really much of a difference there. 

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9 years ago

You went South enough to see confederate flags? Or did you just go to Indiana? Seriously, the "heartland" states are even more hickish than us.

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9 years ago

Michigan has a fair share of confederate flags flying as well.

But it makes sense though. Since losing the civil war, the south still has the KKKland reputation so you have more southerners that go out their way to prove how they aren't racist because they don’t want to be lumped in the stereotype of the “racist redneck with guns.” Sort of like how Germans bend over backwards to prove that they aren’t preparing to round up folks up in death camps again.

Whereas the northern states were on the winning side, so they didn’t have to worry about being called out on being racist because “Hey at least we weren’t fighting for slavery!”

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9 years ago

But, Michigan isn't a confederate state, and you have people there who operate above a kumquat level of intelligence and might actually know what the civil war was.

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9 years ago

Yes I know, but a lot of Michigan rednecks are more in love with the Confederate Flag because of the whole “rebel against the government” thing rather than it being a symbol of the south.

Michigan has a shitload of racist militia anti-government types in the more northern rural areas.

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9 years ago

You'd be surprised. One time I was tutoring a kid who still thought that we were split up into the Union and Confederacy. Frankly, I was surprised he could know what a Confederacy was and not know that the civil war didn't split the US in two.

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9 years ago

It's funny listening to each other's experiences in America and whatnot.

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9 years ago

Don't forget the cherry cola! Goddamn I wish they had that in Canadian vending machines.

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9 years ago

Went back to my family in Vietnam many years ago. Was annoyingly hot where I was staying, crowded, and loud. The sights were very cool though. I got to take a boat tour through a cave lit up with religious symbols. Could barely eat though with all the flys around however.

Yeah, I prefer staying here in America. :P

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago

Sounds like a harsh climate. My dad told me about it in the wars (though he is not a foot soldier, thank you). He was often sent to overlook construction works and main vehicular activity in Port <Insert number here> (I don't remember the number).

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9 years ago

Filthy twinkie learn how to eat your bun moc as soon as it hits the table.

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9 years ago

You've got a point. I was pretty fucking slow at finishing my food back in the day :P

Never really ate bun at all. It was more rice and banh pho for me. Livin' it fancy, I'd say!

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9 years ago

Puhlease eat jellyfish if you think you're fancy.

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9 years ago

I'd do it.

Who's never been out of their home country?

9 years ago
Never been out of America. But have visited numerous states.

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9 years ago

Meh, I wish I could go out and explore. Never been out of Malaysia before. I envy you Americans, having so many states. The only time I go on aeroplanes is when I am going to Sarawak.

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9 years ago

Went to the Bahamas 2 years ago for my parent's wedding.

Think of it as America, but with no taxes, no white people, and half the population speaks French, while the other half speaks English.

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9 years ago

I've been to the Bahamas. That's the only time, but it is still American territory. I think Seth cut that part out of my message :/

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9 years ago
The U.S. may own some islands in the vicinity, not certain. But the actual Bahamas are their own country.

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9 years ago

U.S. Virgin Islands?

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9 years ago

I think he is talking about that, I have been there too.