Yeah, we should outlaw kids.
I know, it is really destroying our culture. I mean, writers won't be as advanced starting out typing. The first story I wrote was with a single pen. Ah, the good times.
Yeah man, your writing is so good. I mean, if Masonjarguzzi wrote his first absolutely beyond amazing first story with a single pen, well, everyone should. /sarc
Double post
I'm only in eight grade, and the main reason I own a cell phone is to contact my father on deployment, and maybe sex up some girl over the phone.
Yep. But, I agree.
Totally agree with breezy, Didn't get my phone until i was 14. though on the other hand you can give kids like 8 or 9 a tracphone or something like that.
Read what I said above ^^^
Well at my old Elementery school, most kids, myself included, had to walk home. So most kids had a flip phone.
I have my phone and almost everyone knows my age, so I'm not going to repeat it. I mainly use my phone for reviews we take in class on kahoot.com and quizizz.com. I also use it to contact my parents if I have any after-school tutorials I need to attend or if they need to remind me of appointments after school or vacations directly after school. I got mine in 3rd grade as a test, which I could only use as a responsibility test.
Dont see why it's such an issue. It used to be weird that people had tvs. Then we got used to it.
Yeah, it's unnecessary for a kid to have a super computer, but a lot of stuff are unnecessary. As long as a parent/guardian is responsible, then it's the same as a tv, gameboy, ds, desktop computer, or laptop.
Oh. Then yeah, ha ha, probably because of everyone getting interweb access ha ha
Yep.
Isn't it good to not have to worry about what you need, and instead can focus on what you want? Isn't that the goal of most people anyway? To live not having to worry about what they need - because they already have it - and instead can focus on what they want. Why does it bother you for little kids to have phones, anyways?
I agree, it is wonderful that we live in a society where we have the opportunity to live a life without fear of starvation or poverty. There are most definitely benefits to having a phone and access to information. I worry that instantaneous exposure to information might blunt curiosity however. I grew up reading and playing outside and learned about things by interacting with them and when I learned that, I discovered there was more to learn. There is still the potential for that with technology, however where is the thrill in effortless learning? What is the joy of discovering trampled on ground? That is my personnal qualm.
You shouldn't be sorry for expressing a personal opinion, even if there are people who disagree.
Having a cell phone, in and of itself, does not spoil a child. Spoiling a child is what spoils a child. My sisters have more than I did as a kid. They both have phones, one is still in elementary school. I didn't get mine until I was 17. But they are also straight A students who have won multiple scholastic competitions, they have never broken a game console / hi-tech toy, they say 'yes sir' and 'yes ma'am,' they're honest about where they go online / who they talk to, they share with others, and are grateful even for small gifts ... and though I've heard them gush about how 'awesome' the tech they've been given is... I have never once heard them whine about wanting newer models.
(And said competitions do not always allow parents to go with the kids--for what reason, I dunno. In addition to that, my littlest sister has visitation with my stepdad's ex who I trust as far as I can throw and my other sister has been having severe health problems which have triggered without warning, so I'm glad they have their phones.)
Technically speaking, kids have no reason to have a iPad, iPod, computer, DS, or game console, either. You might argue that a computer can allow for research and information storage, or educational purposes, but these days, phones do that, too. I will say, though, that If it is purely for entertainment, a phone is much less practical for a child ... but a $200-300 handheld game set isn't really that much better. xD
Exactly
You and James makes the apologizing duo, although as of recently he's stopped apologizing as much.
While I wouldn't necessarily call it a "curse", I agree that technology can be used poorly when handled by children. I think one of the primary concerns it presents is with accountability. Online you can say or do what you want with limited interference from parents (who would usually keep you from being an ass around strangers), anonymity from peers, and few observable consequences. That's concerning when a person is exposed to that much freedom in their formative years.
It has pros and cons.
Most definitely! instant communication allows us to interact with new cultures, ideas from across the world, and gain education in a virtually free manner. I spend a lot of my free time on the computer talking with others, creating written work, researching new information, etc. This doesn't even touch upon the benefits cellular communication has had in removing individuals from dangerous environments, political diplomacy, and increased job and living opportunities. Increased information technology has increased women's rights, moderated peace, supported the advancement of science and education.
Never better said.
When I was young and naive I used to think the internet was going to lead to tolerance, equality, a brave new world with all this information at everyone's fingertips...it's really just all about porn though. Porn, or grown ass adults raging about video games, shipping and other trivial shit. We have all the knowledge at our fingertips all right, just at the expense of the wisdom getting out and experiencing real life would have brought. No time for that, Pokemon and Harry Potter slash fics are way more important. That or pretending to be a wolf or a magical cartoon sex pony.
And that of course ignoring the uglier side of things where people use the internet as an echo chamber and support club for insanity and intolerance...
*Sniff.* That's so true.
Yes. Both sides of the story are true. The internet, like any other form of technology in the past or future, is a tool that we have at our disposal. It is innately neutral. The people who use it can use it for good or for bad, and it is frequently used for immoral, argumentative or lewd purposes. It still has the potential for good though. I think its important to lay blame where its due: when someone does something stupid or wrong on the internet, it is the individual we should find fault with, not the tool they used stupidly or wrongly
Oh no, I'm not blaming the internet. It does kind of tend to bring out the absolute worst in people though, and it's hard not to abuse in a consequence free environment. It can be a bad, bad thing as far as a jumbling of priorities go, too, especially for people with certain personality types. It's a little strange, sometimes a little creepy the things the human brain can be trained to put extreme emotional significance on, even over and above the real people and things going on in their lives that actually matter. And of course having access to it from a little device in your pocket 24/7 only exacerbates the problem.
I've definitely been guilty of addiction to some unbelievably stupid, trivial shit, and those are hours and days I wish I could have back now. Every now and then I have to be like whoa, okay time to come up for air and take a step back now, when I'm wasting too much time or getting far too wound up in some game or internet thing, and I'm old enough that I wasn't even using the internet until middle school (and it was a much more innocent place then....) and smart phones carried around literally everywhere, all the time, weren't even a thing. I wonder sometimes if these kids growing up now where this is all just the normal state of things will struggle even more with that kind of reality check.
Attention spans and tolerance levels for boredom are definitely a thing of the past. I mean what would I even do sitting in a doctor's office without being able to pull out my phone?
Read a book, nap, count the tiles, stare all creepy like at people and snicker at there reactions, twiddle your thumbs, listen to your mp3 player, shadow puppets,exc
especially the shadow puppets
It's not what it is, but how you use it that determines what leads to what.
I agree. I miss when i used to go eeling at night, playing the hallway game, sitting up on the roof eating fish 'n' chips, and actually just having normal conversations. But all this tech has just become really tempting and i'm on it all the time. Totally ruined the last few years of my childhood.
XD
What is eeling?
Basically a group of kids that go down to a nearby creek and catch eels in buckets. It gets chaotic and its really fun.
I remember my dad gave us a pack of hot dogs, and when he came back me and my sister tied the hot dogs to strings, attached to a stick. We dipped them into the river, and whaza!, we caught a bunch of craw dads.
That's not how we do it hear in NZ You just jump in the creek and grab them or shove them in a bucket as they swim past.
I know, I was just talking about when I caught some craw-dads.
I always wanted to do that as a kid.
Do it anyway. I dare you. :P
ok?
I agree that little kids shouldn't have smartphones, but I do not understand your concept of why.
Are you saying that kids don't understand the purpose of modern tech?
Edit: *Sigh* once again when I reply to the OP it gets sent to the bottom.
The post is out of context. The OP was complaining about trolls.
Oh yeah, Whoops.
I think we're all very lucky to be alive in a time where we have so many resources at our disposal, that the problem with today's youth is that they're given an iPhone too early.
He's not that bad of a guy if you get to know him. Malk is pretty nice and a decent guy. Just saying :P
*sniggers* Only you would think that.
:(
I think I can safely say something that pretty much sums up what I said to a buddy of mine a few days ago. Quote me on this if you like.
*Ahem* "We have all the world's information stored in this little box to make learning a little easier, but you are too busy looking at kitty cat pictures to grasp the information." -Jimmy Sutton.
The issue is that as kids on the internet, they experience trolls everywhere they go and then believe this to be acceptable internet behaviour. It becomes a cycle of immature young kids influencing the younger and younger kids arriving on the internet and we can see that the number of trolls and the level of immaturity is also increasing. I don't think that smartphones are the issue though. The issue of kids being on the internet too young applies not only to smartphones but to computers in general.
As for being addicted to mobile games, I do think that mobile games are the worst form of entertainment for young kids. However, I do think that the parent is more to blame for this. Maybe it was just me, but I was pretty easily entertained as a kid and I had nothing more than a pillow fort and a couple toys. When I was older I had a couple nature documentaries and movies that I would cycle through. The parent should be the one who restricts their child's time on the phone and in most cases I don't see why a kid would even ask to play on their parent's phone if it wasn't the parent who first offered the phone to the child (bad or lazy parenting perhaps).
That sucks and i agree. Im in high school and im pretty much the only kid with no phone. We dont need it.
Fun fact: Did you know that some mobile games are specifically designed to help children with mental disorders and learning disabilities? All forms of entertainment have their good and bad uses. (Being addicted to anything is generally bad, though.)
Could be worse...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llIneqJPvhA
And this is why registers here have the cashier put in what they were paid and automatically calculate out the change owed. Because people really are that stupid.
I am absolutely the worst there is at math. As in, failed algebra in highschool the first time through levels of bad. But calling a manager to confirm that 12 minus 7 equals 5? If her brain was just absolutely not making that one happen she could have counted that one out on her fingers, ffs.
I think it is ironic that the cashier was working for a fast food restaurant. Quite hilarious, really it is.
