I know, I said I couldn't post in the forum, but now I'm on a different device so now I can. No, I'm not a sore loser, I'm just here to complain about a injustice that I think we have to change.
I believe, as a website for sharing works of writing, that this website should help us all become better writers and better people. The comments should be a place where you get suggestions on how to do better and what you did well. But here comes the problem. A horrible storygame is posted. It is not proofreaded, and the plot is a ultimate failure. Ok, so an Admin comes, criticizes it, and deletes it. Yet, the story is still in the author's unpublished section. The author fixes what is wrong, and posts it again. After all, the criticism is supposed to make the author make it better, right? Then the same admin comes and deletes the story again without even checking to see if the story is edited.
What I am wondering now, is, then, what is the point of the comment section then? To attack the author, or make the author a better writer? I request that either when the admin deletes your story, it is gone forever, as the admin is going to delete it again, so why bother? Or, install a rule that a admin cannot delete a story before reading it, even if it has been uploaded again, because I have spent so much time finding co-writers and editing my story only to have a admin delete it again.
I do not mean any offense to the admin who did this to me, I am only explaining the injustice of this behavior. Thank you for reading.
Well, maybe we should put some limitations. I don't object an admin's authority, but they should not abuse their power. (In other ways too, not necessarily this scenario)
Yes but who is going to implement a limitation on an admins power
If it's fair, I'm sure a rule will pull through.
I am not asking to revoke the right to delete stories. I believe that right is very helpful and without it Chooseyourstory will be a place for junk stories. And if occasional admin abuse has been here for years, why not solve it now?
Oh, just because it's funny you let people get their feelings hurt?
True. But why not? Right of free speech can sway the government. It can sway a absolute monarch to become an constitutional monarch.
Sorry if I'm being annoying and keep rebutting your reasons not to. It's just me being a debater.
I'm not saying it's ab-
Okay, maybe I am, but I really don't classify it as "abuse".
It's not about me. It's about future instances. I don't what this to happen again.
It's not about my feelings.
Sorry, if you think I'm annoying I'll just stop responding to your posts.
I'm saying both. If one proposal won't make it through, then another one will still make the situation better.
Techinically speaking this server is private property and by posting on it you have submitted yourself to the standards that it has. In some cases double standards, but yeah. If you want to exercise your right to free speech I reccomend you actually do it in a place where it can't be denied. Well not denied per say, but an admin is the equivalent of a God. Wouldn't really reccomend offending a god on your own. Luck.
Forgive me great one, I did not mean to usurp your position. Had I known that you enjoyed the anguish brought about by the crushing of belief I would not have dared to do it myself. Forgive my insolent self and take pity upon my soul. -White Rose
1. I doubt this is going to happen. You are suggesting the admins make a rule to limit admin authority
2. While what happened to you is unfortunate, how do you know if they read it again? Even if they didn't we have had too many accidents on this site for this to happen
3. When I game is republished there is no way to know such. Because of this if a story is republished a few days afterward than it is normally safe to assume not many changes have been made.
4. The comment section is to make you a better writer. Not necessarily make that specific story better.
My address to your argument:
2. Good point. But I'm pretty sure my story met site standards.
3. Maybe we should put a date to the story, when it was published or republished, if not already.
4. Well, why can't I make my story better? (sorry for the sass, I'm trying to be nice)
The fact remains that the purpose of this site is not to make people better writers, but to share and read quality stories and storygames. If you make the decision to publish something, then you are tacitly agreeing that it be held to the same standard as everything else ever published here. If you publish something subpar, then it isn't the admins' or anyone's job for the matter to hold your hand and tell you exactly what to change to make it acceptable. If you hit that publish button you are putting your work out there to be seen and read by everyone, so if you are not sure about the quality of said work then perhaps you should hold off on publishing. There are plenty of helpful members including admins like mizal who constantly read the Writing Workshop threads and offer advice and criticism on the writings that you post there. So maybe try that if you really want advice and tips to get better. Also, if you're trying to become a better person you are in the wrong place.
Please be reminded I mean no offense to anyone. I agree Admins are helpful. I am not criticizing admins themselves.
That is very true.
Also, I am not only requesting a new rule, but maybe just letting the storygame get forever deleted when an admin deletes it, since I see no point of keeping that storygame after.
Whoa whoa whoa. No need to get angry. This is a peaceful debate, well, at least I think it is. I agree.
Number one is kinda my point. They SHOULD be deleted instead of unpublished. That's one of my suggestions.
I agree for number two. It IS kinda weird.
Number three? Yes, that makes sense. But isn't a restarted story basically the same as the old one, so why not just revise it right there and then?
Sorry if I seem angry, my tone is supposed to be calm. I'm sorry if my words have given you the impression of anger.
So this site employs programs that automatically unpublish a story if ratings aren't higher than 2/8?
Thanks for your support, but that is never going to happen.
Me? A admin?
Thanks for your kindness though, but I can't be an admin.
1. As you see from the way I talk, I am a LOT younger than anyone else is.
2. I have not ANY successful stories.
3. And I don't come here a lot anyway. Good admins take care of their community 24\7. Have you ever seen a forum or storygame where Mizal has not been seen commenting?
Anyway, lets stop talking about it. we're getting off track here.
Is this sarcasm?
Nothing a swatter can't fix.
I feel duped, give me back my naive belief in hope
I'm still surprised that even with multiple authors, the stories were still substandard.
Also, points 1 and 8 contradict themselves.
I mean, the only thing worse than an underdeveloped kid trying to write a story is a group of them doing the same thing. So you shouldn't really be surprised.
So it was sarcasm, now I feel dumb for questioning the existence of such an optimistically kind stranger willing to encourage bad ideas.
sigh, that's life I guess
I also think we need to have some kind of constitutional monarchy, I slaved for hours....HOURS, on this game linked here. The very same day the mods unpublished it and it sent me into a three month long spiral.
Admin the admins!
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