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8 years ago
CYS children, please go away. Otherwise, this will be odd, and I won't read this thread. In the words of the infamous and legendary Chowhall, "This is for [me] to learn." But I refuse to learn from children. Especially on this topic. Childen may be the future, but in the future, I shall be dead and will have no fucks to give about the aforementioned future.

Because @Axiom and @mizal crave my emotional support and godly camaraderie, I've been badgered into considering participating in this November write a novel thing. I am in the process of considering what horrible thing to write. This is a potential concept, as I can think of few things more awful. Anyway...

Do not be ashamed. The law of statistics claims one of you degenerates, I mean, wonderful citizens, secretly loves these things. So...

Who reads them? Why do you like them? What aspects draw you towards them?

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8 years ago

@EndMaster  pls protect my innocence daddy

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8 years ago
Don't call him. He's completely unhelpful on this topic. He can't write erotica. He says he gets bored too quickly. Anyway, I need readers, not writers.

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8 years ago

I'm also currently still wading through all of Iron Panther's backlog of story suggestions.

 

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8 years ago

Dude, just put aside your dignity and read 50 Shades. By all rights it never should've left a dark hole on a fanfic site somewhere but instead it went mainstream. Bitch had to have done something right, and if you want smut that sells that's the first and most obvious bit of 'research' you have to do.

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8 years ago
I don't read them but everyone I know who reads them are trying to figure out their sexual orientation.

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8 years ago
Are you suggesting I take this thread over to CoG? ^_^

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8 years ago

Who the hell has a libido so boring they can read the same smut for however long an erotic novel is?

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8 years ago

In an erotica, the rules of "good" description do not conform to the rules of actually good description. The voice is almost always either lewd or passionate, there is no neutral unless you've been lost in a paragraph of description that the writer hadn't yet converted into purple prose before publishing.

You'll find some repetitive patterns, not only in plot but in writing: Alliteration and assonance, sometimes just repeated adjectives or words in general. Sometimes, if the writer's being ballsy, they'll repeat a whole sentence like a goddamn hypnotist. The beat exact of sentences repeat themselves at key points, as in Shakespeare’s works,  if the writer’s either really into their rhythm, or if they’re really ‘artsy’, or if they’re on the Autism spectrum.

I guess this conforms to the idea of 'trigger words', which, outside of trauma-related connotations, are words or concepts that seem to make shit better somehow when you’re stroking your trouser trout. I know they exist, since I've spent a big portion of my life "freestyling" since I didn't want to be caught watching porn, because I had no computer of my own. Needless to say that was pretty early in my jacking career. Common words are the ones you usually hear about in jest or in cliche sex scenes, “Voluptuous”, “Throbbing”, “Quivering”, “Hard/Harder/Hardest/Hardly”, yadda yadda.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, some descriptions prefer to never repeat the same word, but repeat the same description. So, an ass that’s originally “perky and bouncy” becomes “tight and pneumatic” when it’s described a second time, (Nouns are almost always accompanied by their synonymous adjectives when sex or physical contact is happening) so eventually, the author hopes, they’ll actually find one of your trigger words, or if they already have, they won’t repeat it until it becomes boring or annoying and give you new words to work your image with.

Erotica is most frequently bought and read by women, closetted something-or-others, and people with niche fantasies and fetishes, in other words, people whose sexualities are sort of discouraged/ignored/de-emphasized in their cultures. Porn isn’t well-marketted to them, or it isn’t considered [as?] acceptable in their culture for them to watch porn, whereas it’s usually implied that porn’s generally a straight man’s thing.

I tend to avoid erotica in general. In stuff like Game of Thrones or Flan it’s just an awkward flow-interruptor that I have to put up with until the end of the little scene. I guess it’s realistic that they’d have sex. I guess it’s realistic that they’d go into detail to get the feelings down. It doesn’t really get me off, since it’s usually printed in Times New Roman. In stuff like CoC or TiTS, though, I read it because it’s fucking hilarious. Gets a tad bit overwrought, though, and when the novelty of a bizarre erotica wears off I usually head off to superior realms of entertainment. I’m drawn to “So bad it’s funny” or “So weird/surreal it’s funny” “Morbidly interesting” or just “So much plot it’s probably just an adult novel but there’s quite graphic sex in it” as far as erotica goes.

If you’d like to really troll the porn contest you’re entering, just tell them that you’re turned on by plot, and the idea of whatever you’re writing about. I’m sure they’ll have to have quite some controversey about whether or not that’s kink-shaming and whether or not it’s erotica, unless they have specific entry things. Or write in a fetish that nobody there has. They won’t be able to tell whether it’s bad or not, and will only be able to judge it by its merits as a story.

For additional help, here are words you cannot use to describe genitalia, unless you want to make it very clear that you're taking the piss:

Clam, Hamhock, Whackadoodle, Flappy, Pork-Grinder, Gaping Maw, Meatsword, Blackjack, Peter Tinklage, Moby Dick, Monstro, Any proper noun, Any allusion to Sperm Whales or Whaling in General, Choad, Choadhole, Dwarven Stout, Battering Ram, Horsecock, Drippy Faucet, (T)rusty sprinkler, Trouser trout, (Whether it's inside or out) Crucifiction Nail, Southern Comfort, Big Mac, Whopper, anything food-related unless you made clear that that's a fetish.

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8 years ago

Since this has been so graciously necro'd, I think I should add an addendum to my tips about descriptions:

There are millions of people with millions of ideas of perfection looking for millions of specific things. If you write your own specific fantasy, you are very likely not to appeal to a wide audience unless your story is really, really good. It's good not to chop up an already niche market into even more niche markets, because even though they probably have a lot of desperate people willing to pay a lot of money for an experience they might not get otherwise, it's very, very difficult to find that audience unless you have an audience large enough to advertise to that smaller audience.

So you have to use words like "Well-endowed", "Voluptuous", "Curvy", etc., and never establish what any of those words mean unless there's some sort of prior-agreed-upon fetish that gives a general idea of how your definition is more specific than the dictionary one. Use purple prose, but be intentionally vague. Use a lot of adjectives that sound sexy and descriptive, but really mean all the same thing and/or tell us nothing new, so that the reader will fill in all the blanks in the midst of their excitement. Never go into the real shapes or measurements of things, never say things the way they actually are in your head. Write a lot of something that actually means nothing, and add your own twists, turns, and ridiculous implements to a sex scene that the readers will write themselves. Be graphic but don't describe anything.

Unless, y'know, you become well-known for writing porn, publicize your private fantasies, and then attract the like-minded minority out of your audience well enough that you actually can make specific descriptions that aren't the broken-record words echoing from inside the boner part of the dictionary. You have to whore yourself out before you can whore yourself out.

And make sure to make scenes the size of scenes in a play, at most, not the size of one-scene short stories or the like. ENs are made to be read in short bursts, well, for fucking obvious reasons. (And, given the design of GoT, I believe George must have incredibly short-lived stamina and an especially long recharge-rate.)

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8 years ago

I read erotica, and have written short scenes.  (I should do a cys-style erotic adventure)

My favorite series is by Jacqueline Carey. 
The Kushiel's Legacy is split into three trilogies:
* Books 1-3: Phèdre Trilogy
* Books 4-6: Imriel's Trilogy
* Books 7-9: Moirin's Trilogy
I have only read books one through three. It's not only erotic, but there's actually a storyline. (And a good one!)

The other series is by Lorelei James, called Mastered.
Bound Unwound, Schooled, Unwraveled, Caged.
The main male protagonist of Bound owns a martial arts Dojo. *grins*

Edit: Also, I do NaNoWriMo, too.

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8 years ago
"Note that no stories on this site are allowed to have extremely violent or pornographic themes."
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8 years ago
From what I understand, they're actually more about the smell of the coffee than the pounding of the tuna.

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8 years ago

^ Yea, this. You can have graphic violence, like in Endmaster's stuff, or graphic sex, like in Mommy, Can I go out and Kill Tonight?, but if there's no reason for it, or if that's the point of the story, your ass is grass.

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8 years ago

It's not for the site you mong

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8 years ago
As someone who reads and enjoys erotica, what are the most important aspects you look for in the story?

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8 years ago

Guaranteed to help you use those obscure words you spent months memorizing for a thrice in a lifetime placement test.