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For some reason, I decided to do a 5 and a half day vegan challenge. Yeah.

In this post, I'll be writing down what I ate for breakfast, lunch and dinner and my thoughts. But being a hardcore meat-lover and dairy-lover, I would probably be moaning throughout the next 5 and a half days.

The reason why I decided to cut 7 days into 5.5 days is because, I've got a birthday dinner coming up on the 6th and it includes a lot of ribs. Being the meat lover I am, I decided to cut it right before the dinner.

The challenge will start at midnight UTC +8, 31st of July, because I live in that time zone (Duh), and it will end at 18:00PM UTC +8, 6th of August.

So, I'll see you guys in the morning (6PM for those who live on the west coast).

Get ready: a motivational fact heading your way with all the speed of the internet RIGHT NOW fresh from The Vegan Society. Is this a reputable source? Who knows! What we do know is that 5.5 days without those sweet, sweet ribs is an effort that'll need all these facts to help it along.

When you awaken as a vegan, you'll be about 33% less likely to prematurely die, less susceptible to nasties such as diabetes, heart disease and even prostate cancer! (https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/health)

But that's not all. If it weren't 2016 (which it is, sure, but just hang with it, okay?) and was in fact 2050 and everyone adopted the vegan lifestyle then 8.1 million premature deaths would be prevented. This fact brought to you by Oxford University's specialist food branches (something to do with carcinogens? Just go with it).

So, to conclude, if you feel brighter and healthier this morning, then it's probably because you're less likely to die.

Wishing you all the best on your 5.5 day journey!

Thanks for the motivational post you did there!

Didn't know meat + dairy products + any other animal stuff did such bad things?

Well, to be fair, just about everything gives you cancer, and a lot of fatty/caloric things in a diet can cause heart attacks and diabetes whether they're vegetable or animal. It all depends on your personal tastes and what you need to be healthy. Some people find it easier to focus on healthy things when they restrict their diets to certain stuff. It is very easy to go overboard on meat and milk, because they're full of caloric proteins and fats.

Meat and dairy farming is also really unsustainable. So many forests are being cut down for cow farms.

So you can only eat mushrooms, vegetables and fruits right? Good luck, I'm looking forward to the results.

He can eat anything whose production does not involve/use animals in any way. McDonalds chicken nuggets, for example.

Okay... although McDonalds chicken nuggets seem like and odd example.

The taste might've been loosely inspired by chickens, but the paste is 100% organic fungal slime.

That's a lie! They occasionally mix in horse hooves or fish feces!

I see what you did there. I like what you did there.

I realize now. I feel stupid.

I thought mushrooms were a plantimal...  Is that legal?

It's half-plant, and plants don't have feelings. That's why you can never truly love the green starter pokemons.

What about Vin Diesel's Guardians of the Galaxy character? Damn that loveable little twiglet.

There is no afterlife in store for that soulless vegetable! Veganism is morally superior!

Hmm.  A pokemon diet.  I can see the weight loss benefits, but it might wreak havoc on general health.

"Oh Christ, I've got the Cyndaquil shits again!"

Good luck! :D

Thanks!

But waking up to a rumbling stomach probably isn't the best start.

I'll write down what I eat and provide pictures of meat with your posts :^)

*shakes fist*

Damn you FORD!!!!

Just some lovely motivational music for a pretty swell guy. ^^

Edit: Now you aren't allowed to give up, sorry. c:

Woah! Where did you get this?

And I'll add that to my never ending list of animes to watch.

Thanks!

Mhm, the entire season is available for viewing as of right now. Definitely one of my favs of the 2016 season of anime spring line-ups. 

Okay, lemme stop with these kind of posts. Lol it's one of the many ending songs from Relife, which is about a twenty-seven year old neet (basically unemployed) whose chosen to take part of experiment that makes him younger and sends him back to high school to try and change his life around. Ugh, it's way better than I make it sound but try it! I hear the anime doesn't really do the manga much justice but it's still pretty gewd.

I'll give it a shot!

Hmmm... I really don't know what's the point of this, or why anyone should care.

That's nice Steve.

What? He's decided, for no reason, to do something that a lot of people do permanently for less than a weak. How useless.

It's a Challenge. It's a thing that people on the internet arbitrarily do because there's some pride in saying you "Beat" the challenge, and then you have to challenge someone else. In the case of the Vegan Challenge, you become a Vegan for this amount of days, and if you survive without becoming a Vegan, you win. This is considered entertainment in some of the more inane parts of youtube.

Doesn't compare to the days Honor4Ever bet $50 he could go without sleep for a week.

I  understand the concept. I just don't see why anyone should care. It's like me doing the "CRAZY TEA CHALLENGE!" where everyday I make a cup of tea and describe the making and drinking of in extraordinary detail. I could do that. But it's useless and no one should care.

Arguably, all fiction that isn't a blatant allegory or hypothetical example. It entertains some people, and that's the use of it. That's the practical use of it. It doesn't make statements, it doesn't  Star Wars is useless, and nobody should care, but god dammit, there's a whole convention for Star Wars people. You could do the "CRAZY TEA CHALLENGE!" and the gimmick would get you about 100 views on youtube at least, because that's fun for some people.

If you're going to criticize something meant for entertainment just because it doesn't entertain you specifically, that's fine. This isn't my cup of crazy tea either, but to stay true to my statement, the only things I'd be able to read for entertainment are things that have practical uses and real-world reasons for people to care. If you need to get ahold of some volumes of The Abstracts or maybe just some engineering handbooks, I know a guy.

Yes, and as I said, I don't understand why anyone could care about this attempt at entertainment. What's your point?

Really just wanted to hash in the fact that I don't understand why people should care about The Last of Us.

If you're really going to take the stance that "everything is subjective", all your criticisms of any storygame on this site are irrelevant.

I was taking the stance that the rules are subjective, because in some areas, they really are. There are certain things some mods will ban, delete, penalize, discourage, that others either don't bother with or to some degree disagree with. When rules boil down to something clear-cut and easy to define, like "No Warrior Cats", then they're easy to objectively enforce. When the execution of a rule hinges on what the definition of trolling and spamming are, then things change depending on what the person with the mod powers thinks trolling and spamming are.

My point is, saying no one should care because you don't like challenges is like saying no one should watch TV shows because the format doesn't appeal to you. People do care, so this is for them. If there isn't an audience for that here, then it'll be deleted, probably, like Ford's Fording.

I think the first half of this is in the wrong thread, no?

I never said no one should care. I said I don't understand why anyone should care. By your logic, you should be fine if this site is turned entirely to shitty WC stories because some people like that. I don't like this. I expressed disbelief that anyone could like it and confusion in the same regard. Your argument is so broad it can be said in reply to any opinion ever. Yes, things are subjective. I'm going to express an opinion none the less.

That's the thread where I was supposedly taking the "Everything is subjective" stance in, so I was assuming that's what you were dragging in?

No, it's not fine, because we don't like shitty WC stories.. This place is not, and has not historically been, the audience for shitty WC stories. The reason subjective opinions matter is because the audience is essentially what sustains a person who works in entertainment. Shitty things only appeal to niche markets of stupid people. Your opinion was expressed in a way that was worded poorly, then. You can express disbelief, I do it all the time, I did it now, but there's a difference between saying, "I don't think this is entertaining" and "I don't think this is entertainment, period", which seemed to be implied when you made a Crazy Tea Challenge to represent your stance on all challenges, and then said no one should bother with it.

No, i wasnt dragging the other thread in at all .

So if at any point this site had had more people who enjoyed the shitty WC stories, this site would become the audience for shitty WC stories and it'd be cool?

I maintain that no one should bother with this. Sure, that's my subjective opinion, but it's going to quickly become a hassled if i have to point that out at the end of ever sentence. Bringing up the fact that this is all subjective is irrelevant.

No, because that happened, and all the people native to the site knew those people were idiots. We're an audience for good storygames, that's the purpose of the site, and that's been the purpose since the beginning. Shitty WC games should be made elsewhere.

Well, in my subjective opinion, that's stupid.

See, saying "that's stupid, Steve" would've been far better than down to a level of subjectivity, because then we can just discuss the merits of this. 

But if we don't discuss it the frivolous way first, Sentinel's post count won't be as high.

You've passed 1000. At this point, the sky's the limit.

I'm competing for first with a man who has more than 12000. The shiny trophy only means something when you've achieved something unusually great, and there's no spot in the history book that they'll never write for 2nd place.

Sorry, double post.

What the hell!? You're not allowed to apologize. You're Steve for crying out loud, now start acting like it! 

What kind of shit happened to you while I was conciously avoiding forgot about this site that made you so soft?

I was apologizing to myself, for having to take the time to erase my double post.

Still. Can't believe you would do such an act, even to yourself.

I deserve only the finest and rarest luxuries, like fine wine or an apology from Steve.   

Day 1, Breakfast:

Food:
Corn flakes with unsweetened almond milk.

Thoughts:
Almond milk was pretty much tasteless and was almost like putting cornflakes into water. Still hungry.

Well that was fun, wasn't it? I can really see this challenge catching on.

Not sure what you mean by 'fun'. I'm already missing dairy stuff.

Really? 'Cause it seemed like you were having a blast. No wonder people become vegan.

I've got a strange feeling that you're being sarcastic.

Wh- what?! I am being ever so sincere with you.

*shifty eyes*

Are you sure?

Day 1, Lunch:

Food:
Wheat noodles with various stir fry veg (Carrots, cucumber and mushrooms) with Sriracha sauce.

Thoughts:
This... is actually pretty good. It tastes like a regular stir fry and it filled me up!

WH-WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?

I enjoy that M-word as much as many others, but I love stir fried vegetables. I have it at least once a week. It's a fun way to experiment with different seasonings and sauces, plus browned off a bit it's good.

I'm not a vegan, but you can make the food taste pretty much as good as anything else depending on the meal. I have a brother who follows a mostly vegan diet. A lot of it comes from how you flavor and cook the food, rather than just the ingredients you use. 

If you're interested and I have time today or tomorrow, I could probably PM you a few food suggestions for your challenge. 

Day 1, Dinner:

Food:
Chapati with indian curry with Kiwi juice mixed with almond milk

Thoughts:
Was okay. Needed more intense and interesting flavours.

Good job. Here's your price.

That's just mean.

Okay. Won't do it again.

*licks lips*

It looks good tho.

Try rice. I've had it everyday of my life and I still like it, so it's filling and you won't get bored of it (not getting bored is probably not a problem though for the four days you have left).

Having lived in East Asia my entire life, I'm used to eating rice.
But thanks for the suggestion

Day 2, Breakfast:

Food:
Cornflakes with chocolate flavoured almond milk (Don't worry, it's vegan)

Thoughts:
Much better than the unsweetened one yesterday.

I think it is awesome that you are doing this! I love the Raw/Vegan breakfast of Flax seeds blent with water or cashew milk,stevia and coffee then topped with coconut cream and blueberries, and a yummy but filling meal substitute is carrot and apple juice,(actually juicing carrots and apples in a juicer) stick to the challenge then reap the awesome benefits. :-)

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Thanks for the motivational post!

Yeah! I do enjoy a bit of vegan stuff once in a while... but I haven't gone this far before.

Day 2, Lunch:

Food:
Wanton noodles with vegetable soup.

Thoughts:
Tasty! Filled me up!

Replace any kale with sweet potato and quinoa.  You'll find your will to live a lot stronger.

I haven't eaten kale yet in this challenge, but I'm bound to come across it.

Thanks for the advise!

Day 2, Dinner:

Food:
Fried rice with peas with chilli sauce

Thoughts:
SPICY! Was tasty though.

Day 3, lunch:

Food:
Leftover fried rice with noodles and various veg in soy sauce.

Thoughts:
Bit plain and didn't make up for missed breakfast.

Day 3, lunch (part two),

Food:
Noodles with salad topped with tomato sauce and olive oil.

Thoughts:
This is delicious. Made up for bad lunch.

Day 3, dinner:

Food:
Some sort of vegan Turkish wrap/sandwich

Got hungry afterwards and made some garlic rice and kimchi soup.

Thoughts:
Not bad, but Turkish and Korean don't go well together.

Hey! I'm curious about how you're making all of this tbh. So, what is it? Are you using a recipe book or looking these things up online?

The Turkish food was from a restraunt. Everything else was made with what was in the fridge. Since most things that I would eat would be veg, I just did a huge stir fry and put some noodles and rice in there.

C'est Magnifique!

This definitely earns you points in my book~ Seriously, cooking and stuff is the coolest thing ever. I hardly do cook myself but I still do find this thread fascinating. You'll make your future soul mate very happy in the future... hypothetically. 

Wait, you give out Thara Points for cooking?

Does that mean I get some?

Ha! As if getting Thara points were that easy.

Remember to check under your Christmas tree this year. :3

:(

:D

THARA POINTS!!!

YEAHHHHHH

*cycles around the streets on a unicycle while screaming at random people*

But seriously, thanks! Homemade food is the best! Soul mate? Not in a few millennia. :p

Have you tried yam fries? Very easy to make and taste better than regular fries imho.

No. I haven't tried yam fries yet.
Should I just throw sliced yams into a frying pan?

Have you eaten tofu?

Y-you d-don't even k-know.
*vietnam flashback*

Don't make fun of vietnamese cooking m8

I LOVE Vietnamese cuisine! Spring rolls and beef noodles (pho) is right up my alley!

I wish I could have beef noodles now.  *salivates*

I would slice them up, throw a pinch of salt and some olive oil and bake them in the oven for whatever time feels right.

Yeah they are a good alternative for fries.
Okay, I'll give it a go.

Tip: Have a batch of them in a big bowl with the olive oil and salt and swish them around for a bit before placing them in the ovenfor max coverage.

YUP. YOU'VE MADE ME HUNGRY!
I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME CEREAL.

Actually Kale is very healthy if you come across some you should DEFINITELY use it! try making a green smoothie, salad or baked Kale chips! :-)

Don't. I tried eaten it raw and making kale chips. Tasted like shit. XD

Kale chips can't be THAT bad. Kale salad sounds like something I should try. I don't quite like my smoothies veg, but I could mix it up with other stuff.

Kale just seems to be a food that will survive forever due to it's taste. I know vegan and vegetarian people that are healthy, but never eat kale.

Well, WizzyCat, If you learn to make them right they can taste better than Doritos. I made them at a big health camp once and everyone was saying how delicious they were and couldn't get enough.

Please tell me how then. My family spent so much time trying to make them...

How to make Kale chips:

Things you will need:

A blender

A dehydrator or oven

Cooking appliances bowls, spoons etc…

A good attitude so you don’t stuff it up like last time……just kiddin!! But really, don’t have a bad attitude or the food will turn out bad.

 

 

Put In blender(preferably a powerful blender like Vita mix) Sundried tomatoes (a third of the jar including the oil), A cup of yeast flakes,, Cayenne (whatever quantity is good for you), Salt, and a little bit of garlic, just a hint, like a smooch of garlic.

 

Then take as much kale as you want remove stems, wash, and mix in sauce

With hands,then lay on dehydrator sheets, sprinkle more yeast flakes on top and dry at 48 degrees overnight or if you only have an oven bake at 200 degrees until crunchy.

 

Its been a long time since I made this recipe but I think I remembered everything.

 

And now for a CYS nutritional service announcement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb_q9B3NpOY

I've been running on carbs for the past 4 days. Every 2 hours, I would need to eat something like a fruit that would fill me up or some nuts.

The ABC Bod Squad

Day 4, lunch:

Food:

Rice  + spinach + vegan spring roll + mock meat.

Thoughts:

Really nice! Mock meat doesn't taste like meat at all.

Day 4, dinner :

Food:

Oven baked veg with hummus and leftover mock meat.

Thoughts:

I AM REALLY MISSING MEAT RIGHT NOW! But hummus would do just fine.

Curious, so I want to ask how it's going so far since I've never tried to go vegan (but I did try and be a vegetarian for a week until my parents got sick making separate meals for me and made lamb ribs )

Do you need to constantly replenish yourself with snacks? If you don't do you get really tired? Is anything else happening to your body (go to sleep easier and faster, etc)?

Yeah. Being a vegan means eating a TON of carbs. Carbohydrates burn really quickly. If you want to have a dedicated vegan diet, you'll have to snack a lot... like bring a fruit everywhere you go.

Never really got tired on this diet... but you'll have to snack a lot to prevent yourself getting hungry.

Weight loss is something that is happening. People around me have noticed that I've become slimmer ( My mum said that if I were any slimmer... I wouldn't exist). I haven't really done any exercise or physical training this week so I would factor weight loss in there.

Sleeping? No... not really. I wake up and go to bed at the same and my sleep cycle hasn't really changed. 

I did the vegan thing for awhile in high school. It's not a very sustainable diet, you're either starving all the time or you're filling yourself with heavy carbs, and that causes its own problems.

Proteins and fats and B12 is a necessary part of the human diet. Even if you have ethical reasons for refusing meat, there's nothing wrong with eggs and dairy if bought from the right sources. 

And if it's just a matter of health, there's nothing unhealthy about meat in balanced quantities. The horrifically bad thing about a hamburger isn't the hamburger meat, but the white flour bun with all the natural nutrients taken out, man-made ones the body can barely process substituted back in, preservatives and the 30g of empty carbs.

For weight loss and general health, a diet that just sticks to a variety of normal, natural foods is far more viable and beneficial in the long term than any extreme thing like veganism or the zero carb diets.  

Day 5. Lunch:

Food:

Thunder tea rice (search it up)

Thoughts:

An interesting mix of soup and rice. Helps get my mind of meat.

Day 5, dinner:

Food:

Fries topped with fried vegetables and blended veg.

Thoughts:

This is truly amazing! I ate two plates of it and I stuffed myself.

Day 6, Lunch:

Food:

Kimchi soup with instant noodles.

Thoughts:

A pretty boring meal. Soup was spicy in the end and had to drink a ton of water.

I AM SO READY FOR MEAT!

Day 6, Dinner:

Food:

Sticky ribs, onion rings, roast chicken, spicy chicken wings, pork sausages, a mountain of fries and COKE! Followed by an ice cream cake!

Thoughts:

So much meat!!! I ate and ate until I couldn't even get up. Meat was cooked SO well. Was very happy after that. But after typing out what I had eaten, I can't help but feel sad for the animals I ate. Doing this challenge had made me realise  how much I depend on animal products. Living without the help of animals is certainly possible, but for me... it's almost unbearable. I am truly grateful for the sacrifice the animals made and the hard work of the farmers and such.  

It's both interesting and awful that you feel sad for the animals and actually acknowledge the suffering they go through rather than being in shameful ignorance, have spent almost a weak eating vegan food and seeing that it's not that bad, before deciding that fuck the animals' suffering because you're happier that way. I'm also pretty sure the animals would be very pleased that you're grateful that they're being tortured and killed for you.

We could genetically create an animal that WANTS to be eaten.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4GAuuBbb3w

There's a lot of suicidal people, and human meat is substantially sweeter than normal meats.

Well, then we'd need to breed a human that doesn't give us prions and the shaky-fingers, which creates another animal we have to farm with pwecious fee-fees, and not only are not all of them are going to kill themselves when we're hungry, but they're going to be wiped out by cannibalistic serial killers who don't want to get the Lecter disease, so they'll have to be raised and protected in alternate environments, which means racial segregation, which is bad.

So not only are we brought back to square one, but now you're a cannibal and a racist. I'll take my normal McMurder Cow Sandwich, thank you very much.

Depending on where you live, it may be pretty unlikely that farmers have anything to do with the meat and dairy industry just fyi.