I asked this a few years ago, but the site has grown since then so I figured I'd ask again.
I love villains, and when I say villains, I really mean antagonists. No, those are not always the same, a villain of a story is the bad guy, but there are stories where they are the protagonists. An antagonist is a character who the writer created so that the protagonist could have an opponent of some sort, regardless of whether he is a good guy or a bad guy.
I've always been very interested in studying fictional villains, who are essentially created so that the reader can hate someone and then be glad when that character loses in some way or another, and even when the writers don't do that and make their villains very likable, but still manage to get people happy when they see said likeable character meet his demise. There are just some characters we love to hate.
With that out of the way, I wanted to know what the best villains are from CYS, what stories they were in and why you consider them to be so good?
That guy from The Bible, Jesus something. People like this one for different reasons: Some because he was so cliché, others because they generally dislike hippies, even others because he took all their sins with them or something to that effect. Anyway, nice story.
... Were you actually trying to be funny? Boooooo. Poor effort. If you're going to make "comedic" religious remarks, they should actually be humorous.
Butthurt Kiel is butthurt.
Fucktard Malk is retarded.
Coins is still coins.
And you continue to be an idiot. I called him unfunny, not offensive. (That means try harder.)
I agree with Kiel. In order to make that "joke," the guy basically had to willfully ignore what the thread was actually about.
now, if he'd found a CYS game about Jesus. . .
... then that could potentially be hilarious! (While I've seen CYOA games involving Christian religious themes, they were either totally serious or involved using a fairy's asshole as hammer space. I'm sure somebody somewhere found the latter funny, it just wasn't me. Also, I have never seen Jesus as an antagonist for a story.)
I was going to say maybe something like Omen 3: The Final Conflict might qualify since Damien is the protagonist and Jesus would technically be the antagonist…but even in that movie Jesus doesn't really pop up until the end and Damien gets killed directly by someone else anyway.
The only other example I can think of that might loosely qualify is some indy graphic novel I once read where Jesus was this Mexican janitor for a corrupt casino which was run by a "Godfather".
The Godfather in this case was The Pope and the casino was sort of like the Catholic Church. As I remember, the story was more or less told from the Godfather's perspective, though it explored some of the other characters in the casino as well. Everything in the story was supposed to be symbolic.
I can't remember a story where the villain stood out that much.
It doesn't really have to be a "the villain", it can be any antagonist that you feel is worth mentioning.
That guy that I can't remember the name of fro ground zero who made the Cyborgs and used to be fireplay's profile pic.
Alex was the mad doctor "upgrading" humans with cybernetics.
I remember the last time we had a thread like this someone said that Nina from Ground Zero was the best villain/antagonist, which I thought was funny since she ends up as your girlfriend/wife.
Didn't Eternal teach us that the antagonist can also be fucked?
I think it was more of a case where the reader just didn't like Nina's character and said he thought she was insane. Personally I never saw her as a villain or even that much of an antagonist when I wrote her though. She was a "love interest" more than anything else.
Now Mistress/Semra of course was written as an antagonist and there were a bunch of people that saw her as a love interest. Lol.
An older woman fucking a teenager is now considered love?
I need to rethink my life. Good day.
Does Julian from Devils Fire count as a villain? I mean, he did kill a bunch of people in the beginning and is viewed by other people in the story as the bad guy, but he's also the main character and can end up sacrificing himself for others. Not a very villain-y there.
If he does count, then I believe that he is my favorite villain.
If he's the main character he is the protagonist, not the antagonist.
So is it not possible for the Villain to be the main character? Does it always have to be someone going off to save the day? That's a bit boring.
I like books and stories where the difference between 'right' and 'wrong' is extremely blurred. Killing an innocent to save a friend, using evil to fight evil, just something new. The regular black and white picture of right and wrong, heroes and villains, is way overused. The least they can do with that is make the story from a villains view of things instead of the heroes.
Read the OP.
Pff, it is very possible, you doddering fool! The protagonist is just the PoV you view the story from/with, and the antagonist is the character that the protagonist struggles against. In this way, it's entirely possible for complete monsters to be the hero, and for lovely, well-meaning heroes to be the villain.
That guy from The Apprentice King. Forget his name, but I remember he was pretty fucking hilarious and ended up looking "like a blowfish on its period."
Mayumi from Hell Girl: The Shattered Mirror. From start to finish, I wanted that bitch to die. I think that's good for an antagonist.
Absolutely, if the writer can get you to hate the antagonist it means it's a good antagonist.
Gotta admit, I did enjoy that story. Out of all the characters in a game I wanted to send to hell ... well, she was one of them.
What other characters were there (Other than the mother. I can tell she's one of them)?
:P Go read it again if you can't remember.
Kiel, I'd say I know, but it's 7:46 in the fucking morning, and I still haven't gotten my God damn coffee. I'm basically running off 4 hours of sleep.
I'm sick and I haven't slept properly in days. xD
It's not easy being Kiel.
I NEVER sleep properly. O_O
You have my pity. I do, just ... rarely. Damn insomnia.
That perverted pedo cat from Alpha Wolf. I was so happy when he got his balls ripped off.
The Necromancer from Death Song.
The Dad from Necromancer.
Since I don't read many stories on here my opinion likely won't be very well-received, however I did like Claw's zombie scientist from The Corroding. Both a little creepy and wanting to bash his skull in, he made for a good antagonist (albeit slightly cliche).