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CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

7 days ago

AKA Please let me put you in my story! Uwu! *insert air horn noises here* :O :O :O :O

Yes this is in regards to that one story I was writing...the really really long one!

I'll start with a disclaimer as a means to keep expectations in check. AKA "Let's be realistic here". The chances of me finishing this story, realistically, are extremely low. Sure, I could set aside time to plan it out and then do it, but its one thing to say that and another thing entirely to actually do it.

Since the story isn't tied to a contest anymore, I can't exactly justify lowering the scale of it at this point. (Ok, so technically, yes I could do that BUT the ripple effects/consequences of me doing that are way more personally problematic/widespread than I'm sure most of you would imagine. It would take a while to explain why that's the case so I'll only do so if someone asks me. TL;DR it would be easier for me to just scrap the story and write something new, preferably something shorter, which I might end up doing.)

Actually, it would be to my benefit I think if everyone keeps their expectations of me as low as possible. (I probably don't need to say that but I'm saying it anyways so...whatever I guess! :P)

With that being said, this entire thread exists on the assumption that I'm going to finish this story, so the rest of it will operate assuming that is true as a hypothetical.

Anyways...

This is about me asking for permission to use certain CYS members in my storygame. There's a very specific sub branch where this takes place, which was one of the last things I wrote for the game last time I worked on it super consistently, which means I wasn't aware of the "don't use CYS members in your writing without permission" rule until much later (It doesn't help that I've already written out about half of the section already...though I do plan to expand on it a bit so maybe one third of it is more accurate at this point. IIRC I think so far I wrote about at least 20K words on that set of sub branches, possibly more like 30K or something. So while it is somewhat sizable, it ultimately is very small when compared to how big the rest of the story is. I bring this up because I'm aware that the entire idea of writing CYS fan fiction is kind of cringe to some people here, so I hope that it just being a small part of a much bigger story would help justify that a bit more.).

To briefly explain the context of this subsection: its supposed to be a super secret route, the most secret route actually (if not the most it would definitely be up there for sure!). Basically the MC completes the true final route (which in of itself requires you to replay the game a few times (maybe just once or twice...I might scrap this actually) and have certain conditions met to access) and then if more certain conditions are met they can then make an additional choice which allows them to become self aware that they are in a story game which then leads to more meta stuff happening and then your MC gets thrown into Hell as punishment while still keeping their self aware status. While they are in Hell, they occasionally meet other CYS members there as well (which I guess to me helps bring the meta element to come full circle in a sense).

I want to also make it clear that I was extremely self conscious of how I would implement every person in this story, on top of making sure I had a very solid/strong impressionistic feel for what their default "character" that they choose to play on the site was/is. Obviously minor authorial adjustments were made, but this is basically a long winded way of saying that while I did exaggerate some personality traits of some of the characters (only where needed mainly), allowing myself to "have fun with it" so to speak, I also simultaneously made sure I didn't make any of the characters do anything that the person playing them would consider "overly cringy". TL;DR I tried my best to be careful about it without sacrificing my own authorial freedom too much, AKA I went places, but I didn't go too deep in any of the wrong places if that makes sense.

On top of all of that, not all, but a lot of the implementations does have thematic ties/developments to things that happened earlier in the story (including the MC's arc up to that point in that current route), so this all does in a weird roundabout way improve the story I'm trying to tell I think.

Some of the roles are minor (it used to be most, but I added a few things to some of the other characters), others not so much, while others are bordering on major (they could be major, its hard to tell considering most of the characters you kind of just meet, interact with, and then leave after your done with them.).

Anyways, there are 6 characters I want permission to use from the people who own them (technically there's 7 but I'll explain that further at the end of this post.). They are as follows:

Endmaster
@Mystic_Warrior
@WizzyCat
@Suranna
@Kezmark
@fresh_out_the_oven

I'm not tagging End since I know he doesn't give a crap what I do with this story one way or the other (granted, I'm sure most people feel the same way, but that's besides the point.).

Mystic isn't actually in the story proper, she just gets mentioned by one of the other characters.

At this point I don't expect Kez to respond (I was going to also say Wizzy since he hasn't posted much, but he did log in recently so I guess its a lot more likely for him to respond then.), given how inactive they have been. Considering the fact that I've already written out both of their sections fully (they might get some minor polishing here and there, but their sections are essentially done) I feel inclined to just say f**k it and to just use their characters anyways unless they say no. (Given the way I wrote it out I don't think they would mind...especially since it'll be quite a while before I ever release any of what I wrote pubically... so...uh...yeah...idk for sure though...I'll definitely have plenty of time to think this through I suppose...)

Like I said earlier, there's a bonus 7th character I want to include, but I'll wait till the others respond before mentioning who they are. (Yes, I have a good reason for this! Without getting too into it...yeah...just trust me on this one! lol :P)

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

6 days ago
>>To briefly explain

Challenge level: Impossible

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

6 days ago
What are you even on about?

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago

TL;DR

I write story

MC realizes they are in story

MC goes to Hell as a result

MC meets CYS people in Hell

I ask for permission to do this

Of course, its entirely possible that your just complaining about the fact that I left a bunch of really long paragraphs with parenthesis spam back to back, thus making what I said really hard/obnoxious to read. In which case...my b...

As for why I went out of my way to over explain my reasoning behind all of this, I just wanted to cover all my bases in advance, for reasons I'm sure your more than capable of inferring on your own accord (maybe lol...I'm kidding obviously! :O). Hopefully that makes sense! ;)

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

4 days ago

Why would Customs be in hell. Your first mistake was asking for permission 

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

4 days ago

What do you mean by Customs?

EDIT: Oh...you mean custom characters?

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4 days ago

CYSTIANS. Damn autocorrect 

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4 days ago

It adds to the meta element of the story given the route you go on to get to Hell. Also as mentioned in a previous reply, not all of the CYStians are forced to be there. Some of them go to Hell on purpose (and can leave when they want to) so they can mess with the MC. So basically its like "You broke the game, so now the people of CYStia will break you!"

I also may have been kinda pissy at some of the people on this site (and in general) when I initially came up with the idea. I was trying to be edgy you know. Kinda like "CYS/writing is pure suffering/Hell!" or whatever.

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

4 days ago
Oh, he doesn't backread. Dogs can't look up.

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

6 days ago
Now why in the world would I be in hell?

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago

The same reason everyone else is in Hell too!

I think it makes more sense that just having CYS people in the normal story for no reason. (I'm operating off of the logic that meta stuff works better when its branching off of something that is not meta...in this case anyways...)

The MC becomes self aware they are in a story game and is put in Hell as a result, thus it makes sense that Hell is where everyone ends up being.

Part of the explanation is that some of the CYStians (you included) saw this coming, so you end up conspiring against the MC and descend to Hell so you can mess with them, meaning that you aren't necessarily stuck there or "deserve" to be there or anything. (I kind of wanted that last bit to be somewhat ambiguous/explained through subtext but I can see it changing slightly as I write it out.)

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago
Your culinary crimes are many and varied.

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

4 days ago

You know. That thing. 

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago

This nigga is gay.

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5 days ago

Aren't YOU gay tho?

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago

Not as gay as you.

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago

You think your soooooooo much cooler than me don't you?

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago
*you're

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago

They seem to struggle with that. 

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5 days ago
She is? Aren't you the fag who's retarded? You're kind of a low bar to beat. (Notice how I used the right "you're." ^-^)

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago

Good taste! I am the coolest.

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago
I prefer Ogre.

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5 days ago

Do you still abide by what you said here by any chance?

 

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5 days ago

Still thinking about that?

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago

Yeah...

But for a good reason!

I might as well say now that you're the 7th bonus character I'm going to put in my storygame! Congrats!

@TharaApples
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Your role is not like the others, your role is special! Your entire gimmick is that you don't give a single shit about anything that's going on in the story whatsoever, or even the fact that its happening at all. You're above the whole thing in a sense. As a result, the route leading to you is the most secret one of all.

Every other character can either be avoided, defeated or bargained with in some way, but not you. Once the MC finds you, they find themselves in a completely black void with nothing but themselves and you there, and from there, you give a short response (mainly just to make your presence known and to call out the MC for being retarded) and then kill them! That's it! There's no escape once they find you, cause you completely fuck their shit up and there's nothing they can do about it!

Needless to say, I think you're really cool. I've also read about half of your newest storygame and thought it was really good, I should probably finish it sometime soon actually! (and rate and review it of course)

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

4 days ago

This doesn't surprise me.

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

4 days ago

Does anything surprise you?

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

3 days ago

Yes.

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

4 days ago

His name is Gaynigga Cumquad now

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago

I don't know what WizzyCat character you would include, and I'm frankly not excited to find out, but sure, knock yourself out.

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

5 days ago
Alien, can you humor me here for a sec?

Just as a FUN WRITING CHALLENGE, I thought it would be kooky and neat for you to try and sum up the core idea you are trying to communicate with your OP in only three sentences!

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5 days ago

I'd bet money he could do it in one big run on by removing all punctuation except for ellipsis. 

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5 days ago

If I really tried I could probably do it in two paragraphs. But three sentences? I feel like that's not enough.

I would essentially have to cut out two thirds of what I said in order for that to work.

(I may try it anyways later though. Who knows! :O)

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

4 days ago
"I'm writing a story where one of the super-secret meta routes sends the reader to Hell because they become self-aware of being in a storygame. In Hell they meet various CYStians, and I would like to ask permission from these CYS members to use their likeness for this section: the list of members. Thanks!" You also literally did this yourself a few posts up (granted in 5 sentences and not 3 but still). You don't need to write an autobiography for this.

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4 days ago
I actually missed that post entirely, for some reason which I surely could not explain in less thx 18 paragraphs, I'm not attempting to scrupulously follow this thread. But yes I see he managed to get to some points, I'm impressed.

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5 days ago
Go fuck yourself.

CYS/CYStian Storygame permission slip thing

4 days ago
I'll make sure to check it out, better not disappoint