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Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago
Hi,
 
I'm brand new to this community, and this is my first post on this forum.
 
Myself and two peers recently found a little company in South Africa (www.glio.co.za). One of our values is community upliftment, and given South Africa's extremely low literacy rates, we aspire to publish a collection of storygames on Mxit with the hopes of "getting people to read more". Mxit (www.mxit.com) is the largest social network in Africa, boasting around 10 million active users in South Africa (this is 20% of our population). Mxit is very similar to WhatsApp, but it is designed to work on just about any phone, especially feature phones (which is quite plentiful in South Africa). I believe that the storybook format is ideally suited for the Mxit demographic, as it is digested an enjoyed quite easily. I also feel that 'getting people to read' (hopefully) is an awesome opportunity to uplift my community (a community where literacy is super low).
 
Eventually my hope is to have storybooks authored by South Africans for South Africans by initiating parnerships with educational institutions, but to get it off the ground I need an initial library of books. I can provide the distribution of storybooks (through a Mxit app), but I don't have the content. These stories will generate some ad revenue, and I might even introduce content sales later (e.g., read the first 3 chapters free).
 
Here is my proposition: I will provide a 25% royalty on all revenue generated by a storybook for non-exclusive rights (meaning you can publish it elsewhere too) to the storybook. This provides an opportunity with very little risk for authors and a chance to make a bit of passive income on the side. It will be possible to track stats for their storybooks through a web front-end, and (depending on amounts) payments will be made monthly via PayPal.  
 
Preferably the story needs to broken up in short, easily-digestible chapters (or instalments) Due to the nature of the platform, shorter is better. The fewer the amount of sentences between choices. The story also can't contain any obscenity or vulgarity (it needs to be suitable for all ages).
 
Would anyone be interested in such a partnership?
 
P.S. Sorry if this comes across as spam -- I tried to get it as unspammy as possible.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

I think most of the good stories on this site are too long for your purposes. Most stories with few sentences between choices tend to get low ratings. Snow is the only story that I can think of that fits your criteria. Maybe you can try Infinite-story.com as well.

Maybe I can write a story specially for you. One story that I have been planning fits your criteria. The 25% royalty wouldn't hurt.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Thanks for replying urnam0. I can't really say in advance whether length is going to be that much a problem, but my gut tells me shorter is better. As soon as I start getting stories out there I'll get better data to assess the effect of length on popularity.

Who owns Snow? Does chooseyourstory.com require exclusive rights to stories published here, or could I potentially get rights to use stories from this site? If that is the case, I could start contacting these authors.

Thanks for the link to infinte-story.com!

If you're keen to write a story, that would be awesome (or, we could potentially use some of your existing stuff and see how it goes -- my biggest challenge at the moment is getting an initial library of content, so anything would help). 

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

I think there was a debate a long time ago about story ownership and I think it was decided that the authors themselves held all the rights to their own stories. But to be sure you'd have to contact one of the administrators or moderators. I'd either contact Madglee or October, since they are the most active ones.

Btw, I like your idea to encourage more people to read and I really hope you can make a difference :)

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Hi Romulus. Thanks, it'd make sense for authors to own their content I guess. I'll contact on of those moderators just to make sure.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Yeah the authors own their stories. That's why a little while back Alex asked how many authors would like a pay-app, because he'd have to ask each person individually and get their permission to have their story on the pay app.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Makes sense. Perhaps me and Alex can even collaborate...

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Well, I wouldn't mind sharing my existing stuff, but one of them contains sex and violence, and the other one contains nudity. Most of the good stories on this site are not exactly suitable for all ages either. The target audience of this site is more geared toward teenagers and young adults, rather than children of all ages. You could put a Warning Disclaimer on each story, where, before you read any story, you are warned about possible inappropriate content of that story, and the reader has to acknowledge that they read the warning disclaimer before reading the story. That way, you can include more stories on your site.

The authors of all stories on this site own the rights to their stories, so you could contact authors.

You should read through some of the highest rated storygames on this website to get an idea of the stories here. There might also be technical issues with how the functionality and features of the story engine on this site, which is quite complex, might interact with Mxit.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

I guess a warning could work. Perhaps point me to your stories so I can have a read through them?

Thanks, I'll read the top-rated stories. If you say the story engine is complex, do you mean it is ever more complex than simply choosing from a list of options at the end of each page?

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Just click my username and you'll see my profile, where my storygames are listed. That also works for every user.

Much, much more complex than simply choosing from a list of options at the end of each page. On this site, at least. Infinite-story.com is much simpler, the last time I checked.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

I'm intrigued by the idea, I'll say that. My stories tend to be very long, but... let me consider it. If I can think of a good plot that can be properly condensed, then I'll let you know. ;)

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

That would be awesome! :)

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Hmm...lemme see whether I can cook up a story like that...but make no mention of royalties. (my age = 12)

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Thanks! I'm sure you can still earn the royalties...

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Well if we have rights to our stories than I would be fine with you using mine. To be honest however Enigma is the only story I have that I think would fit the kind of thing you are doing. The others don't really fit the nonviolent aspect.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

I DONT NEED ROYALTIES

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

You can always give them to me if you want :)

On the other hand...I've made a really short storygame sometime ago on my other account, but it's only 4 pages, and around 300 words altogether. Would that be too short?

I'm a lazy asshole like that...

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Definitely! Thanks!

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

You can also use mine, though I don't know if they are exactly the kind you're looking for.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Thanks for every who've replied so far. I'm going to start to curate a list of authors and stories so I can keep track of everything.

Also, I realise that the "must be suitable for all ages" criterion automatically excludes a lot of authors' work. I'm working on a mechanism through which I can regulate who reads what. If this is successful, I'll drop the all ages criterion and I'd be able to accept a lot more of your stories.

Authors

  • urnam0
  • Kiel_Farren
  • JamesValkyrie
  • Fireslugger_ICA
  • Romulus

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Wrong section of the forums, I think.

Isn't this supposed to be in the Writing Workshop?

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Thanks for the suggestion.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Well I'm not sure if mine is what your looking for since it has some very long written sections and I never finished the proofreading and editing process but feel free to check it out and use it if you want since it is MOSTLY finished (I just couldnt face weeks more of editing it then making it look pretty)

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Thank you, I will have a look.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

GOOD NEWS: I CAN NOW ACCEPT ANY STORY WITH ANY CONTENT (NO MORE AGE RESTRICTIONS)

I have discovered a way to regulate who reads what, meaning that I can theoretically accept any story regardless of content. The same agreement holds: 25% royalty to non-exclusive rights.

Please add your chooseyourstory.com username, stories and links to stories to this spreadsheet if you are keen to participate.

I will message interested parties through chooseyourstory.com to formalise the agreements.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

ILl Tell you when I finish my story.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

I have to do some editing for one of my stories, but I'll add it when I've finished.

Edit: Done :)

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Thanks!

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Wouldn't it be easier to do a charity drive for books? My wife could start her own mobile library with the books she has!

 

call me a skeptic but the U turn on kids to adult seems very odd, its like putting The Beano and Playboy on the same shelf

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Hi Arfur9. Good idea regarding the charity drive! I've never done a charity drive before, so wouldn't really know where to start.

It's not a u-turn from kids to adults. It's just that I've found a way to regulate who reads what. So it's not the "same shelf" at all, it's different shelves altogether.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Looks interesting, ill sign up, possibly adding another story I am writting aswell.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Quick update: I'm busy building the system. I'm planning to set up a public Trello board so that you can track the progress. Once a go-live date is established I will start putting the stories into the correct format and making more formal agreements with those that are interested (as indicated on the spreadsheet).

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

The story I currently have published requires that its prequel also be on the site, being that the story prior is quite... well...

And that's why I don't think I'll be able to contribute until another is finished.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

That's absolutely fine, when you're ready, let me know.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Given how important this is, is there a deadline to this project? Also, how many stories are you looking to receive?

 

I'm sure the community of this site would love to contribute if it means empowering the South African community to greater things.

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Yes help africa, and money... Uhhhh FOR THE SWARM

Looking to partner with storygame authors

11 years ago

Currently there's no deadline, and I'm looking for as many stories as I can get. More stories lead to a larger variety which leads to more users and a greater network effect. Just to give you an idea, there are 10 million active users on Mxit (the platform I'm targeting) -- that's about 20% of our population.

That would be much appreciated! Admittedly, I do suspect that a lot of these stories might be too complicated for most South Africans, and eventually we'll want to move to stories that target South Africans very specifically. But that will follow once the platform has gain critical mass (enough users to sustain itself), and for that to happen I need an initial library of stories, and this is where you guys and girls could help a lot.

Thank you for the support and interest!