"I'm fourteen, not a preteen, and I haven't obsessed over EndMaster since before my hiatus. I have no problem with cannibals or mass murderers unless they're also insane (which, sadly, many are) and am hardly the person to talk to about pedophilia."
Well, nothing to say here. Your lack credibiliy is astonishing.
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"I call you a bigoted idiot because you're judging people based on an ignorant stereotype of their behavior.
Well, had you payed attention, you'd remember that I was referencing my own personal experience with that particular group of people, not a stereotype. And for the record, they don't conform to the "stereotypical goth" either.
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I call what you're saying wrong, not what you're doing. I do not expect you to be perfect, merely not an asshole. I was comparing you to racists in the sense that you seem to believe, as many of them do, that what you're saying is so obviously acceptable, if not laudable, that you needn't even bother to justify it, when in fact sane people will instantly recognize it as ridiculous and bigoted."
Oh? Really? I ask you dear, who here has agreed with you? Who here, on this entire site, has ever agreed with you? Who here, on this entire site, has ever taken the stance that you're taking against me? Unless there's a secret group of people within the forums who secretly send PMs to each other discussing how much of an asshole I am, then you're alone on this. Are you calling everyone here insane Nevermind?
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While a subgroup of goths can indeed be selected that shares certain personality traits or behaviors--none of which, I may point out, are exclusive to goths-which may be annoying to you, it's also true that regarding only a specifically chosen group that shares the traits you happen to dislike is hardly a fair or accurate way to judge a group, and different selections of people will likely yield different results.
I don't think you understand dear, i'm not talking about human behavior which I find annoying, I AM talking about behavior that is specific to goths (well, not purely specific, but prominent among them). I don't like their music, their clothes, what they talk about, their mind set, their typical preferences, I do not like the goth culture. If any "goth" subscribes to the goth culture, then I immediately don't like them, because their culture is annoying to me. And since you have to subscribe to the goth culture to be a goth (Otherwise you aren't a goth) then I do not like goths. simple as that.
I find these traits in particular dreary, annoying, and unpleasant, therefore I do not like the group. If anything, the goths I personally know seem to be more "tame" than others i've encountered. It's still enough to annoy me.
It might not be a fair way to judge an entire group. So what? You want me to judge every single group of fucking people I meet in the word fairly? You want me to meet every single one of them and hear their stories and talk to them and share my feelings? Fuck no! I'll judge people from the people I know in life, I'll judge goths from the goths I know.
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Furthermore, while the goths you personally know may be insufferable dickwads, assuming that they are representative of goths in general is as stupid as assuming, based on the examples of the Westboro Baptist Church and the people who wanted Harry Potter banned, that all Christians are idiots and would-be murderers. Even assuming that you know as many as ten goths, and that all of them are horrible, your sample size is simply too small to make any meaningful extrapolation.
If someone's only life experience with christians was with people from the Westboro Baptist Church, then they'd be completely justified in judging christians with that knowledge. What else are they going to judge christians on?
As for the number of goths I know- that's irrelevant. I know enough about their lifestyles, or "goth culture" to conclude that I don't like it. I need nothing more. Just like a feminist would not like the islam religion if she read the Q'uran, I do not like goths because I know of goth culture.
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As for the accusation of being a bigot myself, I really can't see where you're coming from, unless you're saying that I'm bigoted against bigoted idiots, as your other text was composed merely of wild accusations of, for instance, "immediately shooting down anything that disagrees with me," and "not being able to handle being disagreed with," assumptions that seem based on my profile as it was more than a year ago, and in any case more accurately describe you than me.
Oh really? Please then, give me an example of me being a bigot that isn't me simply stating that I don't like goths because I find their culture repugnant? Please, do, because last time I checked, my lifestyle preferences didn't make me a bigot.
The only thing I based off of your profile was your obvious immaturity, and mental issues, which I can only assume are still there, though perhaps not as prominent these days.
My text was composed of wild accusations? Says the person who purposely revived a thread in order to call me an idiotic bigot, because she disagreed with my opinion.
Because that's what's happening right now dear, you're calling me a bigot because you don't like my view of the world. You call me close-minded because I don't agree with you. You call me clinically retarded because you assume that I HAVE to have the same likes and dislikes as you, otherwise i'm a bigot. here, let me repost your original paragraph.
So... you got your idea of what "goth" is is from My Immortal (the fanfic), right? Because I could totally understand hating goths if you thought all goths were like that...which could admittedly only happen if you were clinically retarded
^ So, apparently, i'm only allowed to dislike people or their cultures if YOU understand it? Oh yeah, that makes sense. Not bigoted or arrogant at all.
But anyway, yes, I do have a group I hate--and it's bigoted idiots like you, who think that just because one member of a group does something they find annoying, the entire group is like that!
That's right, make more assumptions about someone you know nothing about, go ahead and assume that you now know exactly how this person feels about all other human beings. Go ahead and immediately establish that I apparently only know one goth person, and made my assumptions almost entirely off of ONE action made by that person. Don't try and think for a second that i've actually had experiences with numerous goth people in my life, and I just haven't liked any of them.
Here's hoping there's a god so you and people like you can get what you deserve! The human race makes me sick sometimes, lol!
Yeah, you just know that pretty much anyone who says this sentence is a complete and utter idiot. I wonder, what do you know about me dear, other than I don't like goth people? Hmm? No really, what? Nothing? Hmm, yeah, you're right, your presumptions are completely right, just forget about actually thinking things through.
