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Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Hey, I'm thinking I'll expand on the story I wrote for the contest by, like.. bunches. That being said I need more mythical creatures in my repertoire. If you guys have any suggestions/ have a favorite creature from folklore, it would be a big help. I am thinking primarily humanoid would be best, but any suggestions would be awesome. I will, of course, be doing independent research as well, but I figured I'd interact with the community to start off.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago
Well, you already have fairies... maybe a nymph, some elves, and definitely a troll! Lol. I loved your story and can't wait to see where you take it. :)

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Okay! Interesting folklore fact: Alfs/elves were originally considered to be spirits of the dead, but also living creatures. Its this really weird dichotomy that still befuddles me. I hadn't thought of a troll, it seems so obvious now. Thanks!

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Sounds like reincarnation.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Kind of. An example is the actually found in the Grimm fairy tale "The Hand with the Knife" in which a girl's sweetheart is a man inside a grave (burial mound) who aids her when her family tries to kill her by giving her a alfish knife. He later believes the girl has betrayed him and leaves to find another dwelling place. Its hard to say whether the person is the same person or not, but they usually seem to be presented as being a new creature, but maintaining their human memory. Sorry if this is too long, fairy tales are kind of my field of interest.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Nah, I find this stuff fascinating too.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago
I will definitely have to look that one up. I absolutely love all Grimm's fairytales, and I haven't read that one yet. Do you happen to know where I could find it at? Like, which book? I have a number of Grimm's books and stories. And even read the nicer ones to my kids; they are still too young for the scarier ones lol.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

So the thing about Grimm fairy tales is that the versions we have translated into English are actually the 8th-12th edition in German. That means they are generally pretty christianized and have some of the scarier stories removed. Last year this awesome guy who studies fairy tales (Jack Zipes) translated the first edition into English and that's where I heard the story from. Here is a link to a typical telling of it (this website has pretty much all of Grimm's work I think though its in the 8th-12th edition version I believe). A hill probably refers to a mound which is the burial site of the people who were alive around and after the bronze age and is a typical place where spirits dwell.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago
Thank you. :)

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago
Have you considered eastern folklore? Might be a little hard to work into the genre, but they have a whole slew of interesting yokai, gui, gods, and demons that are humanoid looking but behave in rather inhuman ways.

There are some less commonly used European ones too, like revenants, brownies, gremlins, et cetera.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Sounds good! I'm not too familiar with eastern folklore so I'll look there. So far everything I've looked at is nordic folklore (Huldra, Mound Alf, tree spirit) so it would be cool to integrate more cultures. 

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Yes, in Japan, there is this creature that is essentially just a hairy hand that reaches out of people's toilets and grabs their bums. Some people think it's just a playful kitsune with a human butt fetish, though.

"Asses in the human world are worth the trip. How can I describe them? Juicy?"

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

That's both really funny and disturbing!

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Oh, so that's what the toilet hand from The Legend of Zelda is supposed to be?

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Haha, yeah. There are numerous yokai in LOZ; some are just better concealed than others.

The "fierce deity mask" was even originally called the "oni mask".

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Poe are Chinese, right? 

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

I'm not sure. I always thought "poe" was short for "poltergeist". The motif of a ghost carrying a lantern is also common in European folklore.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

It's speculated that "Poe" might also be the localization of "Po", which is the spirit half of the "Body and Spirit" thing in Taoism.

So they aren't even a specific kind of Chinese folk creature, they're literally just "Ghost" in Chinese. 

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

<3 Eastern Folklore.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Golems are pretty fucking sick bro. Not these new age fantasy golems, but jewish folklore golems.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

You mean the ones that must be destroyed after 3 days lest they become horribly powerful and destructive?

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Yes. Those would be the ones.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Those things are gruesome. I don't know how one would get in the forest but I'll think it over.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Wendigos are really cool. You just can't go wrong with Wendigoes. Unless you're Supermassive Games...

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Not an Until Dawn fan?

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

It's okay for what it is, but the monsters are not only lame, but also sorely translated and passed off as accurate, no "Our Monsters are Different"-type deal is mentioned, just like all the rest of their hashed-in Psuedo-Native-American shit. The death scenes aren't as creative as they could or should be, and all the characters are pretty grating, so none of those deaths are satisfying enough. I guess cheesiness is supposed to be the point, but it's taking itself way too seriously for that to be anything more than a last-minute excuse. It doesn't feel like a cheesy horror movie, and it doesn't feel like a good horror game. It feels like a pretentious, Cree-themed early 2000's PSA with the occassional gore scene that climbs up to mediocre if you're into the 10-hour-long-quicktime-event genre that they're so fond of.

It is to Wendigos what Twilight is to vampires, but at least Until Dawn's writers can write dialogue higher than the average Stock Character montage.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Have you looked into Skinwalkers? They're really neat. Basically shape shifters, but the Navajo myth can get pretty twisted and unique. Like if you make eye contact with one they can take over your body, and how if someone knows who a skinwalker is they can kill the skinwalker by saying their full name aloud and then that person will die three days later. They can also copy voices and animal cries so they can sound like someone you love to lure unsuspecting people into their grasp.

Selkies are pretty neat too, they're irish seal-people who can shed their seal skin and walk as a human on land. They're like incubi or succubi in that they're supposed to appear as someone very attractive, and will try to seduce or go after people who live dissatisfied lives. Also if a guy steals a female selkies skin she's kinda forced to become his wife, but if she finds her skin she's freed and goes back to the ocean. There's stories about female selkies who are forced to become human guy's wives and then have kids with them, only for the kids to find the skin and return it to her. Then she'll return to the sea and never contact the human guy who trapped her again, but there's myths about seeing female selkies playing with her human children in the ocean. And for those who actually fall in love with a selkie without the whole trapping-them-by-stealing-their-skin kidnappping but actually love them, it becomes a sad love story because selkies (whose skin isn't hidden by a sociopath) have to return to the sea soon after becoming human, and then they can't see their human lover for another seven years... unless they burn the skin because then the selkie can't exactly find that anymore.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

I love stories about selkies. It has everything I love about fairytales - magic, transformation, secrets, love, and a touch of tragedy.

They're actually very similar to the story of the swan maiden (which is about swans that transform into beautiful women by shedding a garment of swan feathers), if you want something similar that's not in a setting by the sea.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

I'm 99% sure Commander Badass from Manlyguys is a walrus selkie

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Would explain why they call him "Rock Lobster"... Sort of...

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

For skinwalkers, I have heard of them but I'll need more research. My dad collected Native American stories so I read them a good deal growing up, but haven't really picked up a book on Navajo stories on years.

As for Selkies, hell yeah, those things are freakin awesome. Thanks for the suggestions!

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Here's a couple lists:

http://www.cracked.com/article_23164_6-monster-legends-too-intense-western-world_p1.html
http://io9.gizmodo.com/14-terrifying-japanese-monsters-myths-and-spirits-1498740680

(Personally, I still have a special place in my heart for the Rusalka, which is sadly not on the lists. I know they're basically pond / swamp sirens, but it seems more unsettling to be lured to my doom in a paltry 10-30 feet of water than with an entire ocean at their disposal. Plus, though they're meant to be sympathetic figures regardless, there's one version that explains why they do it, which is... a lot like the original little mermaid story, if the mermaid became a demon who drags people to their deaths instead of sea foam for not killing the prince, and the--then remorseful--prince came back to the mermaid afterwards, asking for her affections, even though he knew he'd be killed and would then burn in hell for eternity.)

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Is that the article that includes the Island Spirit with a prehensile Johnson?, who impregnates happless girls, while they sleep from outside the hut? XD

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Naw, but it has a woman with a scarred face who severs heads with giant scissors. (Incidentally, I kind of love how you can confuse her, and the fact that you can alternatively avoid her test all together by saying you have somewhere to be.)

Though, according to one legend, all female genitalia is prehensile and used to go foraging for food at night until one guy got pissed off about one stealing his food and burned it with a torch. And then that woman told every other woman not to let their lady bits out at night anymore. (... Sounds like an analogy for STDS, now that I think about it.)

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

That's another commonality to Japanese monsters.  They've almost all got specific phrases one should say or not say, and ways of escaping or appeasing them.   (Nearly all of which involve being polite XD)

 

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Ok, thanks! I like how eerie eastern folklore is though you have to wonder why so many Japanese ghost stories are tied to using the bathroom.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

I imagine it's a combination of the sense of vulnerability and Japan's bizarre humor. The west has a few, too, we're just generally more preoccupied with the mirror.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Are you looking for something for a horror story, or does it not really matter? Since we're on the topic of Eastern folklore there's the oni baba, a Japanese mythical humanoid creature. She takes the form of a very wrinkly and elderly woman with long grey hair, but she's actually much more dangerous than that might initially sound. The oni baba lives in an isolated little hut in a mountain somewhere, letting lost and tired travellers stay the night at her little abode. These travellers will often hear a strange sound in the night, and if they open their (traditional Japanese wooden sliding) doors slightly they'll see the old woman sharpening a large kitchen knife against a stone, laughing manically with a twisted look of malevolence on her face. Sometimes they'll live to tell the tale, whilst others end up getting gored and eaten by her in the night.

I've also seen some variations of this in popular Japanese culture. In the manga Detective Conan there was a scenario similar to the above where (I think, but don't quote me) a group of people were stuck somewhere remote on a mountain, but luckily they managed to stay at the house of an elderly lady. One of the people staying was murdered in the night and, you guessed it, somebody spotted the old lady sharpening a knife, leading her to become a suspect. It was in a more modern setting and had a less supernatural feel than the traditional oni baba story, but the idea was the same.

There was this children's picture book called Yamanbasan where the protagonist was based on the oni baba myth but just much more amicable. She was still a shrivelled up old lady but she didn't go around stabbing people with a knife or luring people into a trap. I don't remember the plot details but she seemed to enjoy running up and down mountains at incredible speeds and had superhuman jumping abilities despite her age.

Creatures from Folklore

9 years ago

Baba Yaga is the Western variant "old lady witch who lives in a forest." XD