All the Lannisters save for Tyrion are going to die.
I imagine the remaining Starks will all live. Unfortunately that will include Sansa. I don't see Bran dying, he'll probably just go back to beyond what's left of the wall and meld back into a tree or something.
The Greyjoys, all of them could die for all I care, though I figure the sister will at least live.
Danny will probably live to be queen, not sure about Jon being king though. They'll probably have him die or not take the throne for some reason. It'll be a real lame move though if he doesn't just because Danny's his aunt.
Guessing Brianne will live, though I wouldn't mind if she died.
The Hound will finally kill the Mountain. Who knows if he'll survive to the end though.
Going to guess the Red Woman is going to die, same for that guy who's already died several times. Grey Worm, don't care either way, but it wouldn't be a loss. Same for Jorah I suppose. He's just there to be perpetually friendzoned by Danny. The merc that Danny was fucking in Essos is probably going to come to Westeros as reinforcements, and will probably get killed.
Vayrs I assume will live. Not like he's going to be around the heavy fighting. The Onion Knight will probably survive, same for Sam.
I'd like to see Qyburn get away somehow though he's probably going to get killed.
I really want Bron survive the series and get his castle. That's a 50/50 chance though.
Ideally the Night King just kills everyone and covers Westeros in eternal winter, but I doubt that's going to happen.
Ser Pounce: Takes Iron Throne and lives
Littlefinger: Is actually alive and stays alive to climb that ladda
Ned Stark: Comes back to life as a whitewalker
Catelyn Stark: Comes back to life as a whitewalker
Ellaria Sand: Rots in dungeon as she should for being a bad character
Who cares about Incest of Thrones? Re; Zero Season 2 was announced. Now I can eat popcorn watching Subaru suffer and die over and over again to save his loved ones without powers because he's literally a time looper without offensive powers, on a high fantasy world, that has to die and return to an earlier save point basically every episode to defeat witch edgelords and the occasional monster/serial killer.
On a more serious note, I still can't bring myself to catch up on GoT after S2 so I'm sticking up to the books and random YouTube spoilers.
EDIT: Just remembered I still have a GoT ebook on Amazon from a promotion on a chocolate box while reading this thread. This might be the most wholesome day on my life, thank you all.
Kind of disillusioned with the show since it went off-book. The characters, dialogue, and plot elements are becoming increasingly generic High Fantasy cliche's. The show started off somewhat promisingly (getting past the fact that everyone in Westeros speaks English instead of a made-up Fantasy language... never mind that their ancestors from the lost continent of Valeria spoke their own language and that everyone else in that world speaks a Fantasy language) and the first four seasons contained some strong writing with great character development and a lot of interesting world-building and background history. But the further the show strays from the books, the more this whole thing just resembles another second-rate Tolkien knockoff. The show's complex political machinations and dynamic character arcs impressed me greatly. But that was mostly what George R. R. Martin had written in the novels. Now it's all Good Vs. Evil in an "ultimate showdown" and I'm afraid the ending will be too damned predictable... unless of course the White Walkers turn everybody into the the living dead, which is sort of what the producers are doing anyway.
They hired a linguist to create some of the languages for the show. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_J._Peterson
Pretty sure they speak English. Would explain why they refer to the Western continent as Westeros and the Eastern one as Essos. Rather unimaginative names for continents.
I think in the books, the people of Westeros speak "Common," which sounds like the language everyone speaks in Dungeons & Dragons. I read somewhere that they are basically speaking English. Martin didn't want to do the kind of homework Tolkien did. I don't even want to touch the books, though. The longest novel I ever tried to read was Austin Tappen Wright's "Islandia" (which, incidentally, has its own detailed language) and I STILL didn't finish it... I think I have just 40 pages to go. I generally find fantasy novels that can act as doorstops to be daunting and time-consuming.
Tolkien sets LOTR in Europe in some pre-historic antediluvian mythical age, similar to the Hyborean Age of Robert E. Howard's Conan stories. In no way does he intend his readers to think the characters are really speaking English, but instead expects people to understand it's some dead language from out of the mists of pre-history.
I have here what in Mystery novels would be called the smoking gun. Yes, they speak English in Westeros. Hodor! https://www.vulture.com/2016/05/game-of-thrones-hodor-what-happened.html
Well the first episode was alright, though I didn't really expect anything major to happen anyway.
Not a lot happened this episode, but the preview for the second looked action packed. Also, that kid's scream was terrifying.
Lol. When I saw that kid climbing trees at the beginning of the episode, my reaction was, "Awh! He's so cute! ... He's totally going to die."
Just finished watching the first episode and... What the fuck? What the actual fuck? Jon and Danny flying around on a romantic dragon ride? It feels like I'm watching somebody's terrible fanfiction.
That said, I did enjoy when Cersai randomly turned into Bart Simpson ^_^
I watched the newest episode earlier and it seems it had done what it set out on what it had to do, the pieces are mostly set in motion with some more in episode 2, I also liked the callbacks to season 1 with the opening scene which shows a young boy watching as royalty visits Winterfell, and the scene in the crypt were two best friends discuss something which has potential to backfire in a big way. The comedy wasn't too bad either and was much needed as this is basically the calm before the storm, I just hope that they don't overdo it in the upcoming episodes and aren't afraid of making it dark as it needs to be, which seems likely if the scene at Last Hearth is any indication. This brings me to my first complaint the lighting was a major pain in the ass as I could barely see anything and had to adjust my brightness accordingly. Another complaint I would say is how unimportant they treated Jon and his ability to fly Rhaegal, in the fighting pits of Meeren is was seen as an important event which it was as no one has ridden a dragon in hundreds of years, but in this episode it was a minute of struggling to get on and that was that basically, then they went on their romantic ride. I should probably quit writing now...
Well that episode is over, should be getting to the fighting proper next episode.
Yeah, two episodes in a row of watching various people have five minute long conversations does make you think, "Fucking hell, somebody die already!"
I did like watching Brianne get knighted though. ^_^
Meh, I'm ready for Brianne to get killed in battle along with several others at this point. Lol.
If this is going the way it looks like its going, I feel like they did this backwards. Really they should have set it up so the Night King was the last enemy to take down rather than Cersei. If they kill the Night King first, it's sort of anti-climatic since he's obviously the greater threat.
It'll be like "Yay! The living managed to beat back the undead horde! Oh, and here's some stuff about taking care of Cersei afterwards."
Then again, its not over yet, so maybe that won't happen.
So long as Podrick's alright!
... I do wonder though, if they're going to be REALLY anti-climatic and just have Bronn kill Cersei, because he doesn't feel like killing Jamie and Tyrion.
Lol! Yeah, I said the exact same thing... Probably because Arya still looks like she's 12 years old.
I'm sure Arya's tasteful sex scene was the highlight of that episode for loli-lovers everywhere.
Sort of figured they were going to do that with her and Gendry though.
I thought the Hound and Brienne were going to get a talking scene together as well, but guess not.
No idea who will have the throne. I just don't want it to be Sansa, Cersei or any Lannister and I'm conflicted about it being Dany.
I feel like Jaimie dies (if he survives the battle), perhaps doing something to save Cersei and her baby. The whole "things we do for love" crap even though she wants him dead. Grey Worm will likely die based on what we've seen of him and Missandei in Ep 1 and 2. She is a possibility too I guess. They can't cure Jorah just to kill him. That would suck. Gilly or Sam is dead or both. Melisandre dies. Bronn may die. Maybe after refusing to kill Tyrion and Jaimie. I would hate if Bran died just because they killed all the other Stark boys. And Jon and Sansa are boring without Arya and Bran.
Jon or Dany might die. Likely Dany because Jon has already. I think the are too heavy handed with Dany. The whole "who said anything about a HIM?" and "It means prince or princess that was promised". They want us to believe she is the prophesied so bad, I think that means she definitely isn't. They do the same with Jon I guess too, but Jon doesn't go on and on about how special and different he is.
As long as Brienne, Arya, Tormund and the Hound don't die, I'll be OK. I kind of want Cersei to live, but as a prisoner under whoever is ruling. I want her to lose everything, but her life.
If Bran wargs into a dragon or a person (*ahem* The Night King *ahem*) and the Night King raises past characters from the crypt, I will be satisfied. I hope they reveal more info about the Night King, his ancestry and motivations. I want more raven flashbacks.
Finally got to see some shit worth watching.
Reminded me of what the scenes in Necromancer would have been like except y’know the undead winning. They even had an undead giant. Laughed when the little girl got bashed aside by the zombie giant.
Jon once again made a poor showing as a commander. He’s just sitting there on the wall of Winterfell when the trench is lit and the dead are just standing around awaiting their necromancer’s commands. The auntie fucker should have been burning zombies with his dragon. It’s not like the Night King was there yet.
Then Jon fucks up again by stopping his suicide run midway through against the Night King while he’s raising the dead. It’s like he hasn’t raised a shitload of them yet, Jon could have at least still broken his concentration if not killed him.
Hell, fucking Theon Reek did a better job and Arya had to save all their asses.
Missed opportunity: Gendry making Jamie a dragon glass fist so he could just punch undead into pieces.
Anyway, the rest of the season is probably going to be pretty anti-climatic now, nobody gives a shit about a big battle with Cersei. Like I said, they should have taken care of Cersei first and saved the undead battle for last.
Seven seasons of building up to get to this battle. It was an incredible episode. The whole despair and fear theme was shown magnificently. Was thinking the Night King is in the Targaryen bloodline when he didn't get burned up. I wish they had him say something though, but I guess there are enough interesting villains in the show besides a mute undead necro.
Yeah, WTF happened to Ghost? He just kind of disappeared with the Dothraki and then... I guess he took a nap for the rest of the battle, since the CG animators blew all their budget on the dragons.
That was awesome! Finally, Arya has suppassed Legolas as the ultimate Mary Sue! ^_^
Going to just bring this up because it’s alway fun to rag on her.
This idea that Sansa is some major “game player” now is really fucking overblown.
Seriously, she has done NOTHING after becoming “hardcore” Sansa other than give more scowling looks, and a few sassy quips.
The only thing of importance that she’s done is gain the Knights of Vale to pull Jon’s ass out of the fire due to his poor commanding skills as usual. And the ONLY reason that was even the case at the time was mainly because Baleish wanted to fuck her.
Sansa sucked before and she still sucks now. Whatever they have planned for her in the next 3 episodes isn’t going to change that.
Another episode of prepping.
Dany cries over Jorah thinking that she could have at least pity fucked him once, not like she was doing anything important.
Sansa gives a bunch of passive aggressive bitchy looks.
Tormund and Gendry get shot down by the objects of their desire.
Jamie pity fucks Brienne since it wasn't like he was doing anything important.
The Hound and Arya generally scowl a lot and put on a whole "I'm a badass" loner persona (And travel together)
Jon makes bad decisions as usual.
Tyrion and Varys do a bunch of talking.
Bronn and Qyburn are the only two that I care about living through to the end at this point, but they probably won't.
Euron still fails at replacing Ramsey as the entertaining new psycho, he's more likable than Joffrey though.
Cersei desperately tries to be the last "big bad" but she's never going to be as cool as the Night King.
The black chick and the other unimportant dragon died.
So yeah let's get on with finishing this thing.
Also lol at Brienne crying when Jamie left. I'm sure the Bri fans will bitch about her breaking down over a man that she finally got validation from due to making her a knight.
The standard tactic of the "good guys" seems to be just charge in pants on head retarded shouting at the enemy.
Right now my fingers are crossed that Dany will turn full-blown psycho bitch and the good guys will end up having to kill her. Jon will die in the process and in the end Cersai stays queen... But Arya kills her and steals her face. ^_^
Well I don’t know what they think they were doing with that episode but they were doing it totally wrong.
Then again they’ve been doing it totally wrong for awhile now, so fuck it right?
Everything was either dumb or meh.
About the only thing I liked was Jamie and Cersei dying together because I’m romantic that way.
Guessing Arya is going to do it since Jon is well known for just fucking up every important task.
With Qyburn dead (I was hoping he'd take off after he told Cersei all the scorpions were gone, but the longer he stuck around I knew he was getting killed) all I'm hoping for now is Bronn surviving the show and getting his castle somehow. (Again probably won't)
Yeah the writing has been so bad. The cinematography is basically the only positive thing about this season. I think it's funny how Cersei had the same thought about your #3. All the focus on Arya makes me think she's going to fail trying to kill Dany. My guess is Jon will end up killing Dany after she executes Arya. Or it could be the other way around: Jon gets called a traitor for killing the rapist and Dany sees it as an excuse to eliminate Jon's claim to the throne. I think it'll be one more Stark execution before another Stark ends up killing Dany... crossing my fingers it's Sansa that ends up dead.
The main thing I'm racking my brains over is... What the fuck was the point in that fight with Euron and Jamie? I mean Euron's basically given up on the idea of Cersai winning, but for some reason, instead of going, "Huh, city's on fire, I should probably bugger off," he goes, "Oh look, it's Jamie... This seems like a great time for a fight to the death!"
There was no point.
Granted Euron IS the type of guy to just pick a fight with Jamie in the middle of a losing battle mainly because he's been fucking with Jamie from the first time he met him, but basically it was just more retarded writing.
The main problem was that probably wasn't even the fight people wanted with Euron anyway. Most were probably expecting it to be between Euron and Yara. Would have made way more sense.
Yara and her fleet should have been part of the battle anyway. Her fleet could have been distracting Euron's which would have at least provided a bit of plausibility for Euron's fleet to just totally miss Drogon like a bunch of stormtroopers.
Would have also provided a bit more of a mix with a naval battle more than just a dragon burning everything. Then it could have ended with Yara and Euron having a pirate battle in the middle of a burning ship or something.
Yeah, but I guess Yara actually wanted to survive till the end of the series.
Euron’s character always reminded me of taking a wrong turn in the genre department and he traveled to fantasy land rather than Mad Max post apocalyptic land where he seems like he would have fit in better. (And looked more the part)
As retarded as that whole bit was, I still sort of liked how happy crazy Euron was as he was dying.
“I’m the man who killed Jamie Lannister. Lol.”
I heard he was cooler in the books.
Changed your Dany avatar I see.
I see you changed your original post, gathered your courage and reaffirmed your dedication to Dany via avatar, who apparently is a symbol for white feminism according to Axiom.
I only half remember it, something about not really regretting anything though. Seemed strange that she changed her avatar to a non-Dany one at the time if that was the case.
I believe I also said I may change it back if Dany is either killed, or kills any shocking characters.
I did. I've now decided mass murderer or not, my username isn't going anywhere (I still quite enjoy it) so I can still have a little fun with my "Khaleesi" moniker.?
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Well, they shouldn't let it go to waste. The 4.5 people still left alive should definitely partake.
Or she could have looked down and saw them herself lol. That tiny land mass "hiding" the ships wouldn't do shit from an aerial view.
d) Arya steals her face and rules in her place. ^_^
On the plus side, we all get to laugh hysterically at all those poor idiots who named their daughters "Khaleesi"
that is sad. well i hope the book is different with this.
I guess it is a real shame that the show won't get a satisfactory conclusion, especially considering how great it was when it started... But considering the writers have buggered off to do Star Wars now, I doubt the petition will have much on an effect.
Not really realistic anyway, since I doubt even if they were going to rewrite everything, they'd have to get all the cast and crew on board and I'm pretty sure most of them were ready to be done with the show as well.
I think the petition is more to do with sending a message of disapproval rather than an actual remake as a do-over would be a waste of time and money but as you said nerds are retarded.
Honestly, I still don't see that big of a deal about burning a bunch of peasants. I mean the citizens of King's Landing should be pretty used to things suddenly blowing up/getting set on fire due to the incident with Cersei setting off the Wildfire bomb.
I am glad I never paid for this shit lol
I'm just crossing my fingers that George R.R. Martin was trolling the writers of the show and gave them all a bunch of fake endings, so that when the books come out they'll be so much better by comparisson... Assuming of course he can finish the bloody things before the diabetes kicks in and his heart explodes.
I am going to enjoy this new episode, the massive amounts of salt will be great. Honestly, the show has been going downhill for a while and was overrated by people (including me) It was a great show but still had it's limits. There are plenty of other shows that are at a similar level in terms of writing and pacing, the only thing GOT really has now is a massive production value. Anyway, the outrage will be worth it all.
Bronn survived and got his castle.
Didn't give a shit about anything else.
And he got to be Master of Coin and rebuild all the brothels... That makes me happy. ^_^
To me, the weirdest thing was:
"Bronn is the new King!"
"Only if the North gets to be an idependant country."
Okay, sounds good... Now, who's the rightful heir to the North? ... Oh yeah... Bronn! >.<
Bronn becoming king would have been better than what we actually got
... I said Bronn instead of Bran, didn't I? ... Well that would certainly have been fun. (Personally I was rooting for King Podrick.)
I didn't really bring up the Bran thing because at that point as I said I literally didn't give a shit about anyone except Bronn surviving and getting his castle.
Again, the only major retarded thing that stood out was the whole "The north is independent!" and all the other lords are fine with still living under the thumb of an "Overking." Hell, the Starks on top of having Bran as King, they got Sansa in the north, and Robin and Ed in the Vale and Riverlands since they're also related to them, pretty weak willed, and easily manipulated.
At best, if Sansa's crying about being independent, Yara certainly should have spoke up about wanting to be indy as well. Especially since she was still a Dany supporter and the Iron born are pretty damn unruly most of the time anyway.
The new prince of Dorne probably should have spoke up as well given Dorne's history of never being the kingdom that got conquered. I could see them wanting to be independent too.
Yeah, I could've rolled with it if all the 7 kingdoms became independent... But for the North to become independent just so that Sansa gets to wear a shiny crown and feel important... Seriously, Bran is your brother! What do you have against him being your King?
So anticlimactic and way too many long speeches. Felt like at least ten minutes was spent on Tyrion walking around the ruins.
I was starting to warm up to Sansa again, but then she ruined it with her cockiness... again.
Also where did Dany get all those new Dothraki and Unsullied from? I thought most Dothrai didn't survive being put out on the front lines.
Final season/episode was so boring and uninspired, but at least it's over and done with. I'm going to sleep.
can someone make a better story for the ending?
Ok new head canon.
Bran actually warged into Daenerys and was behind the nuking of Kings Landing the whole time. He's been practising on Hodor, and can now disguise the symptoms of getting brain fucked. Daenerys gets ganked by either Arya or Jon as a result. What we don't see is Bran in his wheelchair, facing a brick wall, laughing menacingly as Episode 5 and 6 occurs. That, or he was doing wheelies in the Godswood.
Boom. Now there's a huge power vacuum - no dragon lady to stop anyone - and Bran can make his move. Hail the king of the six kingdoms.
Maybe Bran has been warged into by the three-eyed-raven, and that cheeky bastard is behind it all. Either way, that's the most evil paraplegic I've ever seen on television - nice work Dumb & Dumber!
One the dumber things that happened was Sansa saying “Oh hey I want the North to be independent.” and literally NONE of the other high nobles suddenly saying “Wait a minute, that’s a choice? Yeah I want our territory to be independent too!”
EVERYTHING was really stupid.
Dragons tend to be assholes most of time.
Hell even going by the D&D good dragons they still can’t help but think about what you might taste like while you’re talking to them along with their natural inclination to horde shit and not want to share anything.
If I would have read that blurb a week ago, I would have thought it was horrible fanfiction someone was trying to pass off as a real spoiler. Wtf does Drogon know about anything? He's a dragon that has killed a child, then took off to do whatever he wanted immediately after. Dumbest shit in the world.
Basically the whole ending felt that way. Cheesy, safe and predictable fanfiction.