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End master I will be starting Eternal next (I already have 1 save at the beginning) looking forward to plowing through it bud, i have deeply enjoyed all your stuff (here) so far.
2 EPILOGUES COMPLETED!
1 more to go. 136 pages so far.
This epilogue was a little more difficult to write since I had a different idea for it at first, but I changed it as I was getting closer to writing the path for it. It's probably even delving into science fiction, but what the hell this isn't reality, but an incredible simulation!
(To be quite honest though, it isn't the first time I've delved into scifi for the story. Both of the chapter 3s for this path are already going the steampunk route at times anyway.)
Now with this last epilogue its going to take longer to complete mainly because the split for it is way back a few decades. So there will be lots to write before it comes about. That's not even taking all the minor branches and such I'll need to tie up.
Anyway this one is definitely looking like it will be the longest chapter over all.
this is great and I can't wait to play the update. If this game isn't the best one on this site the updated version definitely will be.
^Agreed, But there are plenty of story's that reach the same level as Eternal in terms of enjoyment. Eternals just that one story that you will always want to go back and read again and again and again...
Is there a way i could download Endmaster's stories just in case the website goes down forever (hope not) for backup reason? I have read a lot of good stories throughout the years that i regret not saving a copy.
I remember this being a suggestion that got denied a while back. I think the only way to do that would be to copy every page and paste it into a word document or something.
Can we have an upda-
AAGH!!!
*gets dragged away by a wyvern, breaking fingernails trying to grab at the floor in the process*
How dare you try and take my job? Your not even doing it right!
Do it like this next time you heathen; and bring a weapon too!
*{==UpDaTe==}*
Nothing major, just completing some loose ends which are still a lot at this point. I'm pondering on whether to do all of them before moving on to the last path.
If this was CoG I'd probably have to include gay, bi and tranny romance options. Along with a female protagonist option, though one day I would like to make a larger story with a female protagonist.
I already fulfilled the gay quota for the story with Cyrus and his boyfriend anyway. (Along with Captain Pollo and Eldolith)
No major update other than completing a couple endings and rewriting a section so it better fits with some changes I made.
I was thinking of having a choice of starting as boy/girl but just not in the story I am working on yet.
I even thought of having a Female Character who goes around making sex crimes! muahaha JK
And yeah Cyrus through me for a loop! lol
Not much of an update, but my mistake made me laugh.
"Sprawled to the ground, you attempt to cast a cone of frost, but the minotaur has already followed up its attack and picked you up off the ground with both hands. Then with one quick move he slams your back over his neck breaking it and throws you in front of the chimera, which has successfully put out the flames you bestowed upon its face earlier."
Of course what I meant to write is the minotaur slams your back over his knee (Which then results in your broken back)
The minotaur in that part of the story is definitely tough, but if he actually had a neck strong enough to break your back with, he'd be a bad ass indeed.
Anyway, still working on some endings.
That would be terrifyingly impressive.
"The minotaur wears you as a scarf. His new fashion statement is....to die for."
Okay, I'm sorry about that. I couldn't resist.
“Well, nowadays a single leader doesn’t rule our government. It’s run by a senate, which consists of a group of politicians that are chosen by the people. They ultimately decide on the laws and such by discussing and debating them.”
You are completely baffled by this concept.
“That sounds like an inefficient way of running things. How does anything get accomplished?”
“Well, sometimes things do take time, but the citizens are a lot freer and happier by choosing their leaders.”
Now you’re really lost.
“Why the hell would people want to be free and happy? They should just be grateful for the protection and order that the government provides for their miserable lives! One strong leader to rule over them with an iron fist is only thing the citizens really need. And if they grumble too much they get executed, problem solved. Hell, it’s not like slaves cost that much if they need an extra hand in the fields.”
Jennifer chuckles at your totalitarian views.
The Eternal is asking himself the same question.
That's actually a section from the other major chapter I already finished though, I was just briefly going over it again to check on something and I figured I'd post an excerpt.
"You are completely baffled by this concept."
lol, I look forward to Eternal Part 3: (somthinnameorsomethin)
Huh, I see Endmaster has no problems posting regularly on this site.
Also he's so dumb and boring, what do you guys see in him anyway. Pfft. Whatever.
Weird how that sentence works when flipped around too. :D
Anyway, it's cool, you can say mean things about IS, I'm hangin out with you guys and the intfiction.org folks till the end of the year when we finally get some activity there. (by which I mean everyone starts posting 'oh man, [fake excuse about work or relatives dying or something]. Can I get another two weeks on that comp deadline!?' all at once :P
CYOAs are the retarded inbred cousins of interactive fiction, you mean you did not know this?
...anyway, eep, didn't mean to post a derail. Probably should get back on topic now, so, how 'bout that Eternal, huh? Boy howdy, that sure is a...CYOA of some kind. I mean, I guess. I never read anything Endmaster writes....oh um er what I meant to say is that I just love how it has all those...choices and...things, and also that one secret path where the eternal guy (?) sings the third song from Abbey Road while in a ...yoga battle with the...guys he doesn't like?
Great stuff!
Don't think the Eternal would be a Beatles fan.
I could see him humming a few bars of Ride of the Valkyries from Wagner though.
Well, I envisioned him more as singing it ironically. The enemy army was practicing yoga as a de-stressing exercise, and then the Eternal suddenly shows up with his silver hammer...honestly End, this stuff is solid gold, I don't know why you don't hire me as a co-author.
2 more minor branches, 4 background links then I can work on the last major path.
Still trying to finish this sometime during October.
Asking for an update 3 days later won't get much results. You have to let Endmaster get some major stuff done on the story before asking him for an update. :)
Finally done with all the minor branches and background links I was working on. 167 pages on Word so far which makes it the biggest chapter out of all the chapters in Eternal.
Next step is to work on finishing up the last path leading to the 13th and final epilogue. Still not sure how long that's going to take because I still have to do some major events during that path (some of which I've been going back and forth on as to what to include) but the end at least now feels like it is in sight.
I was playing this game again and I had a thought. Is Kane named after Cain from the bible because he turns on his brother and tries to kill him or am I just looked to far into the game?
Despite my current preoccupation with killing people, robbing banks, jacking cars and playing the new grand theft auto game, I actually have been working on the story.
Currently on Year 62.
I actually had to rewrite a bit of Year 60 so it fit better. Added another choice during that year too.
At this point I pretty much got an idea of how the next few major events are going to play out, it's just a question of getting the time to write them out and making sure the storyline makes logical sense.
After I post the story and after its been up awhile I'll probably post a thread releasing all scrapped ideas I had.
'Despite my current preoccupation with killing people, robbing banks, jacking cars and playing the new grand theft auto game, I actually have been working on the story.'
The stuff that a modern Eternal would do....
'Despite my current preoccupation with killing people, robbing banks, jacking cars and playing the new grand theft auto game, I actually have been working on the story.'
And, as in, the grand theft auto is separate to everything else...?
Endmaster?
End?
News flash: "Joe "Endmaster" Edward has been caught!""Justice at Last: a first person account of getting brutally sliced and beaten"
Bumpy hailed with a bump for a bumpy praise of the almighty bump who bumps in the bumpy castle of bump in bumpvilla near bumphill.
or update. Whichever you prefer. :)
I'll take that as a yes then and a possible hint of what to do when I encounter the Necromancer.
Note to Eternal-Self: Do not use Life Drain on undead, does not work. Likely result? Death and zombiehood.
Go figure; necromancers on "Mortos."
wait a minute....do any of these necromancers have...names? Anyone calling himself "The Great Lich Lord" or any such thing?
I doubt it, remember how his presence was enough to kill most of the weaker ones and he already disliked everybody else?
by the end it was. but in the middle (where I believe he went to war with a certain empire) his presence wasn't that powerful.
Even if one of the side characters got a mention here or there, it would be a funny shout-out.
Or even if the planeswalking god of death (from the epilogue) just happened to planeswalk right into the middle of this story? Would be kinda cool to see the god of death vs. "eternals." (or "immortal" sorcerers, if you could somehow pit them against each other.)
Glad to see you're still at it, EndMaster and it's great that you're fine-tuning an already very interesting story. I also hope you'll be submitting new stories in the future... good luck.
Year 80
Had split up this 13th ending path onto another document because it's getting really long. 57 pages for this split path alone.
224 pages so far on this last chapter total though.
Man seriously hope you finish this thing as soon as possible.
It has been my most anticipated game of 2013. Better than AAA games like GTA V (well GTA V IS great too)
Somehow, I feel like with the time and effort going into this, this path would be considered more "true" than the others..."
Heh, no "true" endings for this story. Enjoy which ever ending you like (Even the horribly gruesome death ones!) since I don't plan on doing a sequel to this story.
One reason why this last path in general is taking so long is because I was initially slightly concerned that it wouldn't measure up to the other ones or be too short. They had to at least be as long as some of the Shadow branches.
Chapter 3C1 which leads to endings 9 & 10 is pretty damn long and turned out a lot better than I thought it would mainly because I didn't even have it planned out at the time and was pretty much making it up as I went along.
Given some of the stuff that happens in THAT branch I started to get concerned with Chapter 3C2 not measuring up. So that one ended up being very long as well as I started adding and changing things. The stuff leading to endings 11 & 12 also sort of changed slightly so that in my mind I felt that they would measure up to 9 & 10.
With Ending 13 I basically have to top (or at least match) myself yet again, but considering I had this one planned out somewhat from the beginning, it's just a matter of filling in the middle bits to make it more exciting I suppose.
Probably when I'm ready to add all this new stuff, I'm going to go back and put numbers on the top of the page titles of all the major endings. None of them are really better or worse than the others since they all amount to a "win" though I suppose HOW you won might be important to some.
I think Eternal Survivor has been your longest path yet, right? (Not the epilogue itself, but I remember it taking a significantly longer amount of time to reach that path (Or at least, exhaust all of the options for that path) than it took me to do the others.
The Shadow Master chapter is currently longest with 125 pages on Word and two different endings. (Messiah and Terror)
Last Shadow was 68 pages and had one ending. (Survivor)
Remnant was 88 pages and had two endings. (Patriot and Couple)
Bane of Rask was 62 pages and had two endings. (Savior and Bane)
For the Kingdom! was the shortest with 44 page and only one ending. (Warrior)
Relic will be the second longest with 153 pages and two different endings
Successor will be the longest because its already over 200, has three endings and I still haven't filled in some of the dead end choices or even written the last ending yet (Getting very close to the ending though, hoping to achieve that goal over the weekend)
Huh, could have sworn...
I suppose I just didn't enjoy it as much as the others then, haha.
So, any plans for future works after this?
I dunno, Swift said he didn't like any of the Shadow stuff.
Conversely some preferred it because it was more like they were playing as the "good guys" since they didn't like having to play a "bad guy." (Those people tended to not like the story in general though)
I completely love the story! both as army dog, rebell, shadow master and well, everything else.^^ (I got to slaughter people, yay)
I found that the Soldier path was better written (As if you'd put more effort into it)
I see no way in which the shadow path is the "Good guy" version, you play an assassin cult leader, one of the endings has you becoming an assassin guild leader who hungrily obsesses over the power of his false god, another has you responsible for an innumerable amount of holy wars in the future (Survivor, I believe) and another has you become a benevolent (Only to your cult assassins) sort-of plane god (Like messiah, except you expose the god and you're not as much of a dick to your followers).
But yeah, I played the shadow path first, I liked the first two I reached (Eternal Messiah and Eternal Terror)
Soldier paths were the first ones I wrote so they probably came off with more of a straight forward goal in mind. They're sort of simpler compared to the Shadow paths.
Religion in general tends to be a pain for me to write though, that's why I tend not to refer to it so much in any of my stories and just maybe make a few brief mentions of such things in the background. Of course with the Shadows I couldn't do that because they were a pretty big deal, so I had to delve a little deeper into some of their motivations.
Really I was still going back and forth on whether or not to even do a Shadow path at first ("Die" would've lead to just that!), but once I got going it started to come together.
Personally I like the Last Shadow path out of that storyline the best. Part of it reminds me slightly of the isolation of the Experimental Shelter path in Ground Zero except Dendrin is a lot more of a mocking dick towards you than Eliza ever could be and you do a lot of sitting around just talking to your dead girlfriend Talia who of course doesn't answer, unlike rockerchick. Lol.
Still, it all works out in the end and you do some fairly good guy things in that path like killing some rapist second gen Eternals, trying to train the common people to defend themselves against them and eventually raise an adopted daughter.
The other path that comes close to a "good guy" path is ironically Bane of Rask. You're a mercenary, but you're more or less just killing harmful monsters for people and then run a combat school and you have a protégée that you come to view as a son.
And you get crippled by wendigo bunnies, hahaha....
I enjoyed the path as well, but the whole "Talking to your dead girlfriend" thing got very old after the first few pages, for me at least.
The 13th ending is complete. So far 241 pages total.
I'm still not done with writing though, I still have 11 dead end branches to work on (and 1 background branch) and I'll try to get those done as soon as I can.
Then of course will come the long task of actually posting all this stuff!
The end is definitely coming closer though.
Shouldn't take that long, I already made a promise to at least try to finish this thing before the new year.
The big stuff is done as far as story is concerned. I mean I might go back and alter a bit of dialog or description while I'm working on other stuff, but that's it. What I imagine what's going to trip me up at times is writing out a few of the dead end branches since I still have to write them out well and not just say "UR DEd LoL!"
As for the actual posting, that might take me a few days. In the past I'd usually try to post an entire story in one sitting (Sometimes through the night) but given the length of this stuff, I'm anticipating at least two or three days with free time permitting. (Then I have to go over to IS and do the same thing, but the editor is a little user friendlier over there so it takes less time.)
A hopeful estimate for everything to be finished would be by the end of October.
A realistic estimate would probably be early to mid November.
You should have this as a ending. "UR DEd LoL!"
Just have the story going as normal and have an extra choice (Kill Yourself In Stupidity.) leading to that page. ^.^
The worst thing is when you're writing out one of these supposed 'dead end' branches and you find yourself going 'huh...this is interesting...maybe I should turn it into a proper path, what's another 50 pages after all?'
And then the very same thing happens with the next branch, and the next...
I should mention there is a 14th ending which is a pretty positive one for you, but due to the fact that it doesn't result in a long term meaningful remembrance of your character it doesn't get a special "Eternal…" epilogue bit.
Though it originally did have an epilogue tag, but I came up with some extra endings elsewhere and having 14 sort of fucked up my "edgy" 13 epilogues goal so just consider it the unofficial 14th ending.
Technically there's a 15th too, but again you have no meaningful mark on the world and that one is also the BIG FAT LOSER ending and definitely not a win in an sense of the word.
Eternal Bliss and Eternal Torment were going be their names. (You'll know when you get them)
So why did you pick the number 13?
I wonder if I will find Eternal Bliss or Eternal Torment first. ^.^
Originally it was supposed to be 10 epilogues.
Then I got an idea to have 2 more and then I figured I'd go with one more to make it 13.
Then Bliss and Torment got dropped for two new ones that better fit the "legacy" idea.
Plus 13 is a nice superstitious number.
Any ideas for your next storygame after this? (Is secretly waiting for LOVE SICK's successor, whether spiritual or not)
And then they would start a zombie inn.
Serving the freshest human remains anywhere this side of Innkeeper land.
I'll take the brain stew with diced eyes and a side of deep fried bullocks please, blood to drink
I'll gladly take another Ground Zero or Love SICK, a new IP is always nice. I think something along the lines of "Dreamcatcher" would right up your alley; gross detail, anti-heroes and alien horror - reeks of death and the End =P
maybe I should finish Eternal finally . . .
Okay, just finished the unofficial "Eternal Bliss" and "Eternal Torment" endings.
You may just be too hardcore if you don't shed a single MANLY tear after reading Eternal Bliss.
As for Eternal Torment, consider that one my "THIS LOOSER IS U! UR dEd LOL!" ending with a lot more words and better spelling.
Still got 10 more links to finish.
Awesome. Can't wait for the final update to eternal. (and then I'll have to find every single path I missed. (I think 2 from soldier, and 1 from shadow)