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Favorite anime movie pretty straight forward. Princess Mononoke by one of my favorite directors Hayao Miyazaki.

Spirited Away, same director as yours.

Seconded. ^_^

Thirded.

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...Fourth-ded...

5th Ed.

+ 6th.

7th? Dead...

Been meaning to watch that one.

It's freaking fantastic. Watched it MANY years ago, and I make it a point to watch it almost every year since then.

The Wind Rises- (Miyazaki's supposed last film before [hopefully not] retiring) is apparently supposed to come to US theaters on Feb. 21.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2013293/

Can't wait :D

Me neither, I've always enjoyed his movies. My personal favorite is Princess Mononoke. :P

Guy's gotta have a break at some point!

This was oddly one sided. :)

Have you seen Akira?
I've been meaning to watch Princess Mononoke, but haven't gotten to it.

Grave of the Fireflies.

Nuff said.

i haven't seen many, but howl's moving castle has been my favorite....

I wanna see wolf children

Top 3:

Spirited Away, Only Yesterday, Akira

That south park one with the curses and the Devil and Saddam Hussein. That was a good one.

I said anime, but I like that one.

It's all animated, no real difference.

There is a large difference between Anime and cartoons, but you can think what you wish.

One is drawn by japanese guys, the other by americans? I see no substantial difference.

Anime is Japanese animation; South Park is most definitely not made from Japan.

Yes, I know, and?

South Park isn't anime. Saying so is an insult to anime and animation culture. Also, clearly is contrary to the established definition (i.e., you're wrong).

There is still no substantial difference. Being produced in different places doesn't really mean much lol. 

#DrakLogic

It's like saying sea water and fresh water are the same thing...

I really don't see a difference between the two, sorry if that offends you Anime fans lol.

I used to be, but now in this day and age, it's sort of a standard to be "politically correct" about stuff :P

Especially on the internet :P

The internet cares about being "politically correct"? When did this happen?

hence the quotes.

Isn't Drako one for definitions...

There. Anime is differnet, the end. Murica

Ahem : "Substantial difference", as in, something that would actually be meaningful in any way were I to wish to find a distinction between cartoons and anime (and the country of origin is not one of these things..)

The country can matter, be it just how they are accustomed to drawing and making things, word choices, ect.

I think it said in Japan guns are seen as more of apart of them selves than a tool to gain democracy, like in the good US of A.
(It=I read it somewhere, No clue)

...Eh.

But yeah, there isn't a huge difference, other than minor culture things and them saying "Oni Chan' Every five minutes, 

The art style is majorly different. 

I don't see American cartoons constantly panty-shotting in most of it's shows, do you?

Most American cartoons are geared towards kids, wheras Anime is geared towards all ages.

No? Lol, anime is for kids in Japan too, it always has been almost exclusively for kids (Hell, in Japan, public opinion of grown men and women who watch Anime is that they are weird and more likely to be pedophiles...).

The country just has a different standard for kid's shows, but the product is still aimed towards kids.

http://www.cjas.org/~leng/perceive.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otaku#Negativity

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...  And I suppose the animes that have graphic sex scenes are for kids, too?

No offense, but I think you're a little confused. Yes, a lot of it, even the more disturbing stuff, is often still for kids. However, just because the society there (and here) looks down on Otakus (especially cosplayers, the Lolita fad, so on) does not mean none of it is made for adults / older teens. There are multiple series that are meant only for older crowds.

(My sources, I cannot link you to... but they are experience with anime and the friends I have that are actual Japanese people who have lived in Japan or still live there.)

Edit: "Almost" exclusively. I see. I suppose that's close to the truth.

I agree with some of draks logic,  and i also understandthe rests logic too. Here!

Anime are often classified by target demographic, including kodomo (children's), shojo (girls'), shounen (boys') and a diverse range of genres targeting an adult audience. Shoujo and shounen anime sometimes contain elements popular with children of both sexes in an attempt to gain crossover appeal. Adult anime may feature a slower pace or greater plot complexity that younger audiences typically find unappealing, as well as adult themes and situations.:44–48

Yeah, uh, if you get in to sex scenes it stops being an animated show and enters "Hentai" space.

But it's still an animated show according to your own logic, and also according to your own logic it is indeed for kids because it's animated. And because there is no difference betwen said animated shows, the country of origin does not matter. 

Your logic aside, My point is there is loads of animes meant for adults, i just cant remember the japanease term for it. 

Seinen (or something like that), is a genre targeted at adult men.

Yeah, thats the term i was looking for, Thanks. :)

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There is a difference between cartoons and cartoon porn Daedalus.

He he he he! Time to use your own logic against you. 

Hentai is animed, or "anime porn." Just because it's porn doesnt make it less of a cartoon.  it's just that it's aimed for a older and icredibly more perverted audience. 

And yes. The difference does exist. It's aimed for a, eh just read What i Said earlier. 

But i do in fact agree with you that western cartoons and anime are the same thing. Animated or hand-drawn videos. It's main difference is that each culture put it's own stamp in it so to speak.

You're not using my logic against me! 

I said that there is no distinguishable difference between Anime and Cartoons (country of origin notwithstanding). Hentai, a subgenre of Anime that is overtly sexual, is not normal Anime! It's animated porn!

The difference is this:  anime is more stylized with common character designs and facial structures, detailed backgrounds, and a plot. Also there are many genre of anime from children's anime to adult anime (hentai). Cartoons tend to be made to appeal to little kids by making the characters look deformed and having no point to the story. 

I'm beast and will devour the forums. DRAK Can't recover knockout knockout knockout knockout knockout knockout knockout knockout knockout out out out out out out out out out out out out out 

KNOCK OUT

See you just got frank. That me preparing for the epic spam thread that will get me the poster trophy.

No... there's not... anime is just cartoons from Japan... that's literally the only difference...

It's so fun watching Drak try and argue with someone lol.

I'm not "arguing" with Daedalus, he's stating overtly false crap and i'm telling him it's false! Cartoons are motion pictures using animated drawings instead of people, Anime is exactly that except from Japan. 

Now he's trying to say there's a distinguishable difference because there's animated porn in the japanese industry. (Ergo: Hentai) While completely ignoring the fact that there is also animated porn in the normal cartoon industry and acting as if the sex is the norm for cartoons directed towards children (though in Japan, there is a different standard).

He's trying to start an argument for no reason whatsoever!

"Not arguing"

"All I'm doing is telling him he's wrong!"

Anime isn't exactly that though. I'm confused as to why you're acting like you know what you're talking about when you don't even watch anime lol.

They're similar sure, but anime has a set style that differentiates it from western cartoons, and that style goes further than it being from Japan, or even it's art. I won't ever say someone is wrong to call an anime a cartoon, since it is (as a cartoon is just anything animated), but they do have differences, hence why they're treated differently.

I don't need to watch anime to know that it's nearly indistinguishable from american cartoons. (And I did watch them - as a child anyways, i'm operating off of memory here.)

You kind of do...

It's incredibly ignorant of you to say something like that.

Why would I need to watch Anime to know the difference? They're the same on paper (metaphorically speaking), logically it should be the same on screen as well.

There is no reason an objective outlook (I no longer care for anime like I used to so I know what it is but I no longer do so I am not biased towards it as most of you are) would not be accurate. I used to watch anime, I stopped and therefore it stopped being important to me (because it really seems like you're just defending anime's uniqueness due to being fans of it). I really think you're according to much importance to whatever minute distinction you can find between the two. (note that i'm not really talking about you, as you've displayed a very nice detachment, but rather the others..)

It's ignorant to say that the brain surgeon's job is easy, it's not ignorant to say that two cartoons, one from Japan and one from America, will be pretty much identical in nature.

 Drak you know there a difference yet your making an argument that they are different you've lost. Alright just give it up man. Anime and Cartoons are not the same thing. Not even in nature now when 11:30 hit i'm gonna watch space dandy.

They're not different, also, learn how to punctuate properly please.

"It's ignorant to say that the brain surgeon's job is easy, it's not ignorant to say that two cartoons, one from Japan and one from America, will be pretty much identical in nature."

An Israeli sitcom is REMARKABLY different then an American one. As such, I hate American sitcoms (generally) and like Israeli sitcoms (generally). 

And that's Israel, who's culture has been practically taken from America+Britain. Assumingly, Japan culture (which, I assume, is massively different from American) will create a product that is rather different from a product created by American culture. If they were the same, people would not care about the difference. :p

What he said.

Frank, you agreeing with me makes my opinion seem utterly stupid. -____-

Hey I'm backing you up.

That makes it look silly.

Oh so supporting one person response makes it look silly. Oh my  then Aman your totally wrong.

It's just because it's you.

What the hell did i do?

Your existence. 

Nobody had anything to do (personally) eith their existence. Your existence brought destruction and choas to this forun okay.

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....Both sides have valid points, but neither one's going to win this argument. It's been done so many times before like you wouldn't believe RWBY. Can we just drop it now?

And frank, can you lessen it with all of these posts? Seems like you're just striving to give everyone a "You're wrong. I'm right. Shut the fuck up." kind of message with a majority of them. You're not doing yourself any favors.  :/

kinda of but no, because there is a difference between Anime and Cartoon like a i said earlier and gave an example also other did as well and he (drak) still believe there isn't .

*Snickers

Japanese culture is massively influenced by american culture (The americans really did a number on Japan after world war two)

But it is still massively different. :P 

Not really. Cartoons are a different matter from sitcoms. Sitcoms rely on pop culture and such to make it's comedy (hence: Situational comedy). You probably hate american sitcoms because it appeals to americans (situational) while you like Israeli comedies because, again, it appeals to Israelites (or in your case, jewish people).

A cartoon is silly, exagerrated, often humerous due to the past two factors, and is rather outlandish. Those are pretty universal traits between cartoons.

Now, anime is different from western cartoons how exactly?

I used to watch Naruto (Anime) and I was a fan of Avatar (Western cartoon). Can you honestly tell me that there is a difference between the two that would make it clear that one was Western and the other was a cartoon? Because I didn't know the difference until I looked them up to make sure.

Wasn't avatar directly inspired from Japanese artwork/style, though? 

I'm comparing Ben 10 to Spirited Away, or bobobobobo (never watched Naruto). And that's a huge difference. Worlds apart, even. XD 

Yeah, avatar was made by Korean Animators, not American. 

Really I thought it wasn't korean but american.

It was written and produced in America, only the artwork was Korean (and even then, i'd think it would first have to be approved by american standards).

Yup. Imagine Avatar with Ben 10 drawings. The only Aneme quality in it is the artwork. :P

I... yeah, i'll admit that I don't get this.

The artwork in Avatar is the only anime thing about it. 

No, that wasn't what I didn't understand, I just don't understand what the difference is in the artwork. Then again, I don't really care for imagery...

(OOA: bobobobobo? What the fuck kind of name is that?)

Compare Ben 10 to looney tunes, and you still find a huge difference! Both are different, within the same country (american made). My question is this: What is so special about anime that's it's different from other cartoons in a specific way, which applies to most of all anime shows?

anime is more stylized with common character designs and facial structures, detailed backgrounds, and a plot. Also there are many genre of anime from children's anime to adult anime (hentai). Cartoons tend to be made to appeal to little kids by making the characters look deformed and having no point to the story. 

Frank, just... Just stop. You're spouting utter nonesense

Okay not a prime example. I got another this one better.

anime=Japanese animation, and cartoons=western animation. 

 Anime and cartoons are both subsets of animation. They sometimes overlap, but not always. And they are by no means the only subset under animation. Anime is simply any animation from Japan. However, I describe cartoons as being anything animated where the primary audience is youger children.

I know classic cartoons like Bugs Bunny and movies like Snow White appeal to adults, but the primary audience for these shows are younger children, so they stil fit as cartoons. 

Yet some anime are sometimes (wrongly) classified  as cartoons. If you hear someone say, "I'm watching Saturday morning cartoons," and they are talking about Pokemon, yugioh you know precisely what they are talking about. I have no problem calling these both cartoons and anime. When we reach that plateau where the target audience is in the teens or older, I tend to lose the cartoon description, and only use anime to talk about them. 

 

Way to copy-and-paste :P

I said i'd give an example. Much better then that previous worthless example that Aman said was nonsense.

You... Have some issues, don't you Frankie? :P

I might........

(A very odd name. (Oddly enough, it was available in Israel on tv. Odd. Very, very, odd)

Because Looney Toons is comedy, while Ben 10 is action/adventure. Compare action adventure Western Cartoon to an Action Adventure Asian Cartoon. They are very different. 

So... there's a difference between Ben 10 and Japanese cartoon set in modern times?

I'd think so. :P 

But, your ignoring what I just said. :P it's not just modern times, it's a genre. An anime-styled Action/Adventuer will be different from an American-styled action adventure. 

Compare Naruto to Spongebob.

Different target audiences. Spongebob is for really young kids, Naruto is for just... well, young kids?

It's incredibly ignorant. It's like me saying Friends and Game of Thrones are identical in nature because they are both TV shows, without even watching either of them.

I can only hope at this point you think you're right because you think you're right, because if you actually think there is legitimate logic behind your reasoning, then it appears I overestimated your intelligence.

This post makes it seem like I care a whole lot more than I actually do though lol. Honestly at this point I care more that you're basing your opinion on so little information than it being wrong or right.

Friends is a sitcom and Game of Thrones is a Fantasy TV show.. they're entirely different genres, western and Japanese cartoons aren't (well, sort of, I realize I may have worded that incorrectly).

Also, you seem to be misunderstanding me - i'm not saying that they are all the same, as in "Identical stories, character tropes, development, etc.."

I'm saying that they are all the same in a way that if you were to present me with examples of each, I wouldn't know whether they came from Japan or America because whether they came from Japan or America is completely irrelevent to it's story content and characters. There is nothing (by my knowledge, and what i've seen) to distinguish Anime from Cartoons, as there is a massive overlap that transcends cultural influences.

Hmm. It's not that it comes from Japan/america (otherwise all those American Deviant artists who claim to draw anime style are wrong), but it's the style that differentiates it. A Japanese show may have western animation style, while an American show could have an anime style. It's not where it's broadcasted, but it's style

But... then it's not really "Anime style" is it? An anime is just a cartoon made in japan, the "style" in question would just be a different method of drawing (I hesitate to call it Japanese style, as it does not seem exclusive to Japan and I feel just a tiny bit racist when I think of "Japanese style" as a drawing style)

Well, according to your (perhaps limited) opinion of anime, it's just drawing. According to all of the guys arguing with you, though, it's not just a drawing style but a whole different experience. Obviously, to them (and they seem to be the majority, at least here), anime-style is remarkably different from American-style. 

They're anime fans and want their interests to be special, their opinion on the matter is moot (as the only point with something to back it up being presented is the artwork, which I will admit to. Even if I don't see the difference, I don't have a fine eye for imagery either, easy for me to miss.).

Bwhahahahah!

They disagree with me, so their opinion is mute. XD

They want their interests to be special - there's a difference, it's a bias in favor of Anime. It's like asking a catholic priest to talk about religion and then expecting him to be objective, it's not going to happen.

Which is also why, as the only person in this thread who I deduce is not a die-hard Anime fan, you're the only person i've taken seriously.

The only actual proof presented was the differences in artwork, and i've admitted to there being a difference there. I'm accepting the stuff that i'm wrong about.

You are throwing out their opinion when they could be right. It's like ignoring an economist since he's republican. :P

And, aside from Cynical (who's opinion is hilarious), no one is arguing that American is inherently worse then anime. Just that they are different. A bias towards anime means nothing in this case

Their proof is that the style of each anime is far different, in a lot of ways. You just can't tell, since, as you stated, you haven't watched a lot. They have. They know the differences. You've watched one, and compared it to an anime-drawn American show (and were wrong about it. :P). 

As Killa stated, your opinion on this is far less meaningful then their's, since you haven't watched since you were a kid, while they are physically adults/teens who are still watching it.

:P

As for if I'm a die hard anime fan, well, I've enjoyed some, and enjoyed American as well. I fucking love looney toons. (Never insult it in my presence)

Economists have facts to support them, the people who's opinions i'm rejecting don't.

Their proof is immaterial, not a single difference has been given other than "Porn" (Which exists in american cartoons. Very disturbing images of the simpsons.) and "Artwork" (Which, I don't actually see a difference in, but i'm trusting that there is one because I both wear glasses due to bad eyesight and don't care for imagery).

I wasn't wrong about the Avatar-Naruto example, lol. It's story was produced in America (which I would argue is all that matters) and it's artwork in Korea (Which, last time I checked, was not Japan).

My opinion is objective, their's isn't and also happens to be devoid of fact, so I reject it. Why is that so inconceivable?

Lolled when Daedalus used porn as proof. XD

(Odd. Last Air-Bender is Apparentky not considered American, but rather as Western Anime, a style that was taken from Japan)

(Drawn in a Japanese anime style. Anyone can draw anime (as long as they can draw, obviously. :P). It doesn't matter where it was drawn, (otherwise, that would be racist as all hell. XD))

No, you ignore it since its not objective. What facts have you brought? :P

All have opinions, all are biased. You consider the idea that anime and western are different to be foolish, and only thought of due to people wanting to be special. That's a bias. They consider the idea of anime and western being the same is an offense to anime culture (lolled). That's a bias. 

(Anime "style" is really just Japanese style drawn art. It's right there in the definition for Anime (also why I feel kind of racist calling it "Japanese style", haha))

Honestly, I tried looking up differences between the two, but after reading over 12 articles and web sites where the authors clearly didn't know what the word "cartoon" meant, I kind of gave up. They did support that there were differences between the artwork though.

The only sources I have been able to provide are the ones above, where I was saying that Anime(s) targetting different age groups was a load of crap. It's merely that their standards for what is acceptable for children to view is different, the shows are still geared towards children (Except for the porn, i'm pretty sure the porn isn't geared towards children).

That's not true! I see that Japanese and American cartoons are indistinguishable (to me, at least). I then believe that there is no difference between Anime and Western that would let one distinguish between the two. Then, when something that I thought was pretty much a given began to be disputed, then I started thinking that the people defending something so obviously similar were biased and wanted their stuff to be special.

"Their opinion is different from my completely objective one, therefore they must all be biased and wrong."

"Their unsupported, inarguably biased opinion is different from my somewhat supported, more objective (or less biased, if you think i'm manipulating word usage to my advantage) one, therefore they are likely wrong".

There, fixed it for you.

Not a single difference has been given because beyond telling you you're wrong I don't particularly care. I care more that you're saying all of this despite not actually watching both anime and cartoons than your opinion. Had you came in here and been like "I watch both fairly often, and to be honest I can't tell the difference", then I'd be like "Well that's pretty odd but alright then", and move on.

Yet you're sitting there going "I have no experience on the matter apart from good old google, but I'm positive I'm right, and you're all biased and wrong".

You honestly expect to be taken seriously?

I used to watch both (Bleach, Naruto, an old one about a half-wolf demon, a girl and a secret world hidden in a sewer, Ben 10, Looney tunes, Avatar, etc...), and that is more than enough to go off of.

Well, if you say you actually have experience then you're not entirely ignorant, so I don't have much of a reason to continue arguing.

Still disagree with you of course, but there's no reason for me to try and convince you otherwise lol.

Not hidden in a sewer damnit! It's a old well in their backyard. And it's Inuyashan. ;)

"They're anime fans and want their interests to be special, their opinion on the matter is moot"

.... Ever been to a place known as YouTube?

Just out of curiosity, what Myers-Briggs personality type are, if you even know?

drawing styles tend to be wildly different. Strange, large, glowy eyes, elongated legs, ladies have huge boobs generally (that actually not mandatory, but boobs sell i geuss).

That sort of thing.

This, as well. Although, the major thing is that's it's produced in Japan. If South Park were produced in Japan (lol at that thought), it'd be anime, albeit odd anime.

South Park parodied Akira.

I never got that reference until I watched Akira.

Drak's wrong but partially right, in that south park is not an anime, but at the end of the day it and anime are still cartoons.

Amusing that cynical would call it an insult of anime culture though haha.

Ehh, depends on how you look at it.

Anime is strictly Japanese animation. Animation in itself can be anything. I see Drak's point though.

I like the Eden Of The East 'trilogy' (or I've only just seen the 3 of the movies)

... xD Howl's Moving Castle.

Damn it, Miyazaki, you and your genius. (Runners up are: Anything else he's ever made, especially Spirited Away... Escaflowne: A girl in Gaea, and Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz, because I never got over how cool I thought it was when I saw it for the first time, yeeears ago.)

Aside from Miyazaki's masterpieces, there's The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Wolf Children, Ghost in the Shell, and The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya. Still need to watch Akira, The Garden of Sinners, and Summer Wars though... :P

I remember a long time ago, when I was young *insert old fart joke here* I saw this really awesome anime. Of course, I was young so I barely knew what the hell was going on but I really enjoyed it. I want to watch it now, many years later, to see if I'll enjoy it as much as I did as a kid.

I don't remember the title, but I remember the plot... Well, most of it. It was a family of three, a mother, a daughter and a father, who were moving to this new town. The town was well known for it's market and, for some odd reason, it's pigs. There must've also been a local legend or curse on the town because after dark everyone, except the girl, had turned into pigs, who would just eat and eat and wouldn't stop.

So, the girl had to escape, which she did successfully, but was taken to some sort of magical fantasy land. I basically can't remember anything from this point onwards but all I know is that she turns her family (and the entire town) back into humans and destroys the curse.

I wish I still had the disc....

Bits of this sound very like spirited away lol

Very similair. 

Though, Japan seems to have a thing regarding pigs. Porko (?) Ruso had a pilot become a Man-Pig, I think. :P

Soooo I went on Starkana.com to read the Akira manga, and this was the description... -_-:  From Doujin-Moe:

Nobody's surprised by this? Just me?

Thats the wrong Akira.

Akira doesn't have a manga (from what I know)

Ya dumby

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_(film)

Such a good movie

I looked it up.

The movie...isnt about that...at all...

Theres no futas.

No demons.

Troll review is troll

1. It does have a manga.

2. It wasn't a review, it was the summary.