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Hi. I want to say something now that I've come back to this site after abandoning it for a long time.

 

When I was a teeny little fifth grader, I was looking for some Warriors fanfiction and found some on this website. Eager to find more, I pleaded my mom to let me make an account until she let me. I was OVER THE TOP ECSTATIC to write stories, as this was my first time sharing anything on the internet.

 

To my shock, when I published my first storygame—a very low quality (I was in fifth grade) story about a wolf pack—I was repeatedly crushed with hate comments that bashed my writing skills and called me a troll. I was confused and hurt, because I assumed writing communities were supposed to be supportive and encouraging, especially since I was so young and new to the internet.

 

I started a roleplay called Warriors of a SkyClan. Simple, harmless, just a little kid trying to regain her confidence after being struck down. The immediate response was multiple users, much older than me, attacking my innocent little mind. This was where I first discovered the meaning of the word "slut" after an adult user called my roleplaying character that twice then proceeded to rub it in my face.

 

It was miserable. Posting anything always meant a wave of criticism and hate. I understand that the world isn't full of love and happiness. I've experienced a lot of bad things in just the past year. But when you're a little kid, and you are being cyberbullied by adults on the internet when you always looked up to adults as role models, it kind of sucks. It kind of sucks a lot.

 

I don't know if CYS's rules are different now than what they were when I first joined. I haven't been active in about three years. I also don't know if I'm going to get banned for speaking out against the website. I could honestly care less because I just want to put it out there.

 

This may not be the most kid-friendly community. But creative, hopefully little kids are going to stumble onto this site and think, "Hey, maybe it would be fun to write on the internet!" And adults and teenagers need to learn how to be mature and not be assholes about it.

Banned.

lol

I laughed.

Welcome back! Welcome back to leaving CYS!

For one thing, I think it's good that we removed the WC fanfiction. The fact that you found this place and started writing bad WC shit because you found it here just proves that the reasons we got rid of it in the first place were correct. And yes, you assumed the internet was supposed to be a supportive place. Well, do you know what happens when you assume, right? Writing communities are a good place to get an unbiased opinion from the general populace, because they really don't have to give a fuck about feelings or what they're allowed to say.

You were responsible for that tragedy? The one they made an entire wiki about!? Ugh okay there's no way you had an innocent mind. Little, probably, but not innocent. Also there was no way any of the adult users were even around to give a shit about your cesspit of half-formed, brightly colored autism and bizarre PG-13 cat sexuality. You were called slut by another 5th grader for sure.

I think it's fairly obvious to anyone who can read that this is the kind of place where people would rather criticize everything than not be allowed to criticize anything. If you would like a hugbox, you could have invited your kitty friends to a subreddit where you wrote on Twine. Or gone to CoG, but I think they were almost normal back then.

They're not, but the execution of them sure has. You got banned in like, record time, holy shit.

Creative kids are definitely allowed, especially if they're mature. But adding the stipulation that they're "hopefully little" is... Odd. Almost disturbing, really. We don't need another Melissa.

We missed you, Sent.

Oh what! You're here! Oh my!

Seems like you haven't grown up much. Get over it mate - your writing was shit and you got told it was shit! No one lied to you but when you're posting to a bunch of adults, they're gonna speak to you like you're one too. If you wanted opinions of other eleven year olds you should have kept it to your school friends. This site isn't promoted to, targeted to or even suitable for children. Your hurt feelings are your own fault :) (Also I joined the site when I was 13 and wasn't immediately ostracised - because I wasn't an annoying little cunt).

Well I guess this can stay up awhile, at least until Mizal comes by to make a comment since I know she’s going to love this.

I wasn't really around during that time, but here's my two cents. You got involved in a war with two sides her were at each other's throats. Since one side consisted of young children, that side lost.

I'm not going to defend whatever asshole called you a slut. Still, this's the internet. Many sites have age requirements for that reason (even though everyone would lie about their age anyway to get on). I know a little girl IRL, sweet and all that stuff, who loves WC. If she joined the site and never mentioned once that she likes to read WC, then she'd still be mocked and eventually banned? Why? Little kids are dumb and immature. Science says so.

Is this site better now? I'd say so. (WC is banned around here, btw.) Just don't act like a fool, and you'll be fine (which's also why you're now banned I believe).

Lastly, if y'all just went to fanfiction.com to write your stories, then you'd still get "mean" things said to you. Anyway, I hope you feel better after your rant. It would've been more effective if you used less anger. That tactic would've made you more likable to the readers (and not banned).

If a little girl is on a site pretending to be a sexualized animal and inviting others to do the same, yes the internet has stolen her innocence, but it happened way before some rando called her a slut.

O_O is that what happened? I am unfamiliar with a lot of the history here, but maybe I don’t want to know.

You must be completely unfamiliar with the Warrior Cats fandom if you even have to ask this question.

If we had only the fans to go by anyone would naturally assume the series was softcore cat porn a bunch of 12 year olds had found cached in the woods behind their creepy unwashed uncle's house somewhere.

Indeed, I don’t know what that is. I’m relatively new here, and I’m not here all the time. But, what you have described sounds pretty dreadful, and I can understand why they wouldn’t want that on the site.

WC stories went as follows:

1. Cat goes on quest 
2. Cat finishes quest 
3. Cat has sex with another cat.
4. Cat babies.

All done in under 20 pages. Usually less than 10

Yikes! And these were kids posting this? What are they teaching them in school these days?!

Animal sex, apparently. Strange thing is that I actually looked into the show to see if there really was that much sex, and there isn't. So I don't know why they put so much in. My guess would be it's their idea of romance.

'Quest' is really giving them too much credit. If you were a boy cat you clicked a link to go hunting a girl cat, if you were a girl cat you clicked a link to go hunting with a boy cat (sorry, sorry...'tom or shecat'). But remember what you picked now because the game won't do it for you!

You got one sentence* about how you caught 47 voles or whatever, and then you were asked once again if you were male or female and prompted to fuck your designated hunting partner.

Sometimes they'd let you refuse, in which case you'd get a sentence about running off to die alone or be eaten by badgers.

If you made the correct choice you then had six kittens and got a list of their names. The end.

This was every single one of them, except for that rare exception that one time the rejected love interest tied you up and raped you...apparently first sprouting opposable thumbs and pulling a rope out of its ass.

Most of the wolf games around that time followed the exact same formula.

*note that they were really 'a sentence' in the technical sense as they usually lacked the standard requirements but I don't know what else to call them.

Christ, what a fucking dark time that was for the site.

I kind of enjoyed it. Gave me something to do during my phase of intense reviewing during my life as Danaos. Also, it led to the creation of the minimum site standards, which are pretty solid. So...something good came out of it.

They were good for farming points.

Always liked tearing into one and then the automatic little 'thank you for your service' message would pop up.

I dunno, 2014 - 2016 were the Dark Ages in general for the site.

WC shit, mass of spamming idiots/degenerates like Honor, Melissa, TSR and Ryder influx, Morgan’s insanity, Bad Mod Kiel’s abuse of power (and insanity), Con Mod Seth ripping off children, etc.

Granted there were still shining beacons of light here and there, but it was one cluster fuck after another.

What was wrong with Honor and who was Melissa? Also, wasn't TSR before my time (2013) because I've never seen him. Unless he made alts and I didn't know. And what's the story of Con Mod Seth?

You’re joking right? Honor4Ever was a constant fucking idiot coming in here with this retarded ghetto ass mentality like it was the “mean streets” of Baltimore. That’s why his dumb ghetto ass got thrown in jail during the riots there, acting like a fucktard.

Melissa is nmelssx. Not letting anyone forget the pedo/stalking shit she was doing during the “height” of her activity.

TSR’s join date was 1/16/2014. Granted, he got banned pretty quickly, but he came back under several retarded alts. You probably have bumped into him and just not known it. Still pops up from time to time.

Con Mod Seth, had a kickstarter project that he never followed through on and just took all the money for his surgery. Didn’t even make the minimal effort to reply to commenters that backed the project. Just slunk off.

I really love that he forgot to take the advertisement out of the description for Snow even after he snuck back in to wipe his profile.

But really, I'm as shocked as anyone that that handful of pencil sketches and vague promises of waifus by a guy with no game making experience didn't go anywhere.

My only interactions with Honor were Star Wars conversations. I don't think I paid attention to the forums around that time.

nmelssx was a girl? Didn't know that. I only had an issue with her when she plagiarized Naruto then asked me to take my review down (which I can't do). Then proceeded to inflate the story with false ratings. And I'm not aware of the stalking, must have happened during an inactive period for me.

 

 

I didn't feel like going in depth since I'm on my phone right now, but yes that's the WC stories summed up. You left out the broken links. I don't know how many I reviewed that weren't even finished.

Sent summed it up far better than I could so yeah. This place ain't a fucking cuddle zone, we're not COG. You come here, expect your writing to get torn to fucking shreds. If you can't handle it, leave. If you can, stay and maybe become a semi-competent writer. That's the way it is. But considering you're banned, oh well. Guess I'll just leave this piece of advice for any noobs who come across this thread.

Well mate, I was 11 when I joined this site and man do I cringe looking back. But I guess I didn't do anything to piss people off and sailed relatively smoothly. Seriously, you can't really expect too much from the internet.

ez solution: 

 

This isn't a therapy center the last time I checked...

Hi. That’s terrible you were treated that way, I personally think it is unnecessary, and shows either a lack of vocabulary and/or a certain immaturity when excessive cursing or crudeness is present. The internet has both good people and weirdos, so I would recommend children have supervision when using it. I hope you will have better experiences in the future. Keep in mind that the people on the internet are strangers: they don’t really know you like your parents do. Don’t be bothered by what a random stranger says too much, just enjoy your hobbies and have fun! :)

Ok, let's see if it'll work normally this time. @EndMaster, could you please kill the text wall monster that I created? Thanks!

"I could honestly care less because I just want to put it out there." Are you sure you didn't mean to write "couldn't"? Because what you wrote is the exact opposite of what you actually meant. :P Sorry, I'll stop being off topic.

There's not much that I can tell you that hasn't been said already. I'm sure that the little kid you didn't like to be insulted, but the net's a dark and scary place. It could've been worse. Three years was plenty of time to get over it, but I guess you're just an angry one. One day, you're hopefully grow up into a strong, mature person and laugh when you remember how the past you reacted.

Sure, calling your char a slut might've been a bit extreme. But you joined in the middle of the WC madness. Countless little children came before you, and the older members tried to be nice and constructive. But the cat lovers got offended, ignored their help and called them haters. As you might imagine, once more and more kept coming, the members got quite annoyed. You can read awful cat stories that all have the same plot for only a short time before you start having nightmares about cats and.

People here generally try to be nice to new authors if they have some talent and put at least some effort in their story. Two of the featured stories were written by 13 year olds, so there's proof that it can be done. However, if noobs are unable to notice that their story is very different from the high rated ones on the site, if they don't give a shit about quality, if they can't accept criticism, then perhaps they'd be safer if they left their work unpublished. Our standards are not high, there's no need to lower them.

I'm sort of surprised End banned you so soon. I'd thought he'd either laugh and ignore you or at least leave you alive for a little longer so people could get some more amusement. But oh well, the thread's still up, so I hope you read the replies and think about them. And BTW, I don't recommend making a new account and doing something stupid like spamming the site. It has been done several times before, you wont accomplish anything. You haven't done anything that requires a lifetime ban, so just wait for a while, until you feel you can be a mature and productive member.

The battle pussy was showing no signs of being a learning animal. It could have easily at least LURKED MOAR to reacquaint itself with how things run around here now, but instead it chose to be retarded.

The first time it caterwauled it left shit all over the site with its pussy brethren that took Berka years just to clean it all up.

Now it comes back after 3 years to do more bitching, pissing and mewling about "cyberbullying", being openly being hostile towards everyone and demanding that we treat it like some fucking prized pet.

Yeah fuck all that. Feral rabid beasts get fucking put down immediately.

*four years later*

So back when I turned fifteen, I was OVER THE TOP ECSTATIC to finally make a post here complaining that no one liked me when I was eleven. I assumed a writing forum I'd been a necrotic tumor upon in the past would be an excellent place to find sympathy when I randomly reappeared there to bitch about how mean everyone was, and I was confused and hurt when Endmaster banned me.

So, I take it this wasn't the original title of the thread.

Dang man you have keen intuition

It's not a stretch to assume that she'd put that as the original title considering what we've dealt with from them. Figured it was her attempt to be snide.

BANG BANG BANG! PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER! 

 

 

 

No, but on a serious note... End has shot you full of holes and devoured your presence in a metaphorical sense. I like to recommend things so if you're still reading this with potentially tear-stained eyes, please go back to doing what makes you happy. If it is frolicking in the grass and leaves and playing sniff butt and booty pouncing with your fellow cat lovers, go do that. Who cares if you're the cat with the biggest harem of cats? You're a winner in a sense. 

This thread was a fun surprise to wake up to, put a smile on my face.

My favorite WC story is still the one where the cat got tied up and raped. Ah yes, those innocent little children writing poorly spelled wank material for Ryder, how I miss their many contributions to the site.

I'm not sure about you being called a slut and whatnot, but if you recall, the stories were so awful that I don't even know where to begin in describing them. I remember how many I'd have to sift through when I was reviewing every new story that came out. Anyway, most of the community have you WC people advice and all of you not only ignored it, but began to give us crap saying that your stories were great no matter what we said. Then you all began to spam these terrible stories on the site, so naturally the users got tired of dealing with all of you. It's not like we immediately took a dump on your writing. It got so bad that the community had to dedicate some hours into finding and purging the WC stories (and other bad ones) in addition to creating new site standards.

but but but YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO READ IT IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT!!!!

NICE COMMENTS ONLY GO AWAY HATERS!!!!!!!!!!

Terrible impression. There are no misspellings.

Time to put another cat through the meat grinder. 

Time to pound another pussy would've been better, if we're trying to have fun with this.

I was going to say that at first, but I was afraid it would hurt their fee-fees. After all, I was one of those WC people. That makes me want to vomit. 

Let's not have any of this 'fun' please, this is a serious thread, for serious people.

being called a slut back then was mild as fuck. surprised people didnt just gangrape you into oblivion.

Honestly, the people calling his character a "slu"t probably weren't older members of the site. That sounds like an insult a kid would use when he wants to sound grown-up.

If anyone called her a slut it probably was Malk. He got pretty intense about his WC hatred back then.

As we can see several posts above though, Malk has grown much more mature with his insults.

I believe the more accurate term is 'deviant' anyway. Even sluts stay within their species.

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience, and I hope you feel better for getting it off your chest.

"If you hate WC so much, then don't bother to come here. If you hate the WC stories here, then how about you write one that's better?" --Flamepelt, 2015

Found this fun old thread in its post history. Wonder how many just like it are still buried here? End was right, it was a dark time. (Flamepelt by far not the cringiest furry in that thread however.) @iqqih should come around more though.

Mizal why'd you have to fucking post that thread? I'm reading my posts and cringing so fucking hard.

also @iqqih was awesome and I miss him.

Lol, you're seeing these posts by The_Lost_Warrior and worrying about yours? You were the same age they were too, they have no fucking excuse.

This one is a good example of how some regular newbie started posting and then WC shit infected the whole damn thing and derailed it.

http://chooseyourstory.com/forums/newbie-central/message/14586

Browsing these old threads, it's weird because I don't see any of these kids at all acting like they automatically think a writing community is supposed to be 'supportive and encouraging' or who were trying to improve in any way, it's actually just as I remembered it with them all being self entitled obnoxious little shits under the impression they're depositing gold into the litter box and completely above reproach.

It's almost like eleven year olds don't just crawl out of the womb with those kinds of assumptions at all and that's complete and obvious bullshit the OP made up a few years later to try to make people feel sorry for him. Or her, whatever.

Just have to say that I miss my guy iqqih. He was one of my best friends on here and we talked daily for I think a year or two.

Yeah iqqih was cool from what interaction I had with him. Always was surprised he managed to avoid getting banned a few times.

I remember this one time, we derailed a thread by going back and forth name-calling each other. Aman got involved, a called him a cunt, and Seth almost banned me. Good times, good times.

@Bluefur How are you doing these days? I hear you've reformed?

Oops I forgot to reply and now I'm late RIP should I seem mean for not answering my summons or revive a dead thread

Wouldn't call it "reformed", but sure. I'm curious who you heard that from, considering I don't tend to participate in conversation with others here.? Nice seeing old faces, though. Hey Chris.

I feel like since I'm here, I should comment.

To be honest, I can't remember the WC days and all that too well so I'm not sure what to talk about here. Sure, I know there were "discussions" that got everyone cringing, and a whole lotta amateur stories, but I don't think I was central enough in it to really care. I remember I was really upset about it at first, probably threw myself into the fire... Then something else attracted my interest, so WC didn't matter to me as much. I wasn't an avid fan of the series in the first place - I think I may have gotten upset only because I just got... caught up in it. Well, then I found the editor to be fun to figure out/play with, and I'm not sure how the timeline went but I started getting along with non-WC members of the site. That was fun. I kind of just dropped out of the WC fanbase on the site altogether then, and lurked. I haven't touched a WC book or fanfic or anything in years. More interested in youtube and web manga (not better on the cringe scale, but AoT is a work of art and you can tell me otherwise, I just won't ever listen).

Was Flamepelt43 banned for hate-posting? Is WC talk banned in forums too? WC fans altogether (should I change my name?) or possibly starting an argument? Though now that I think of it, him sticking around doesn't benefit, either. It can only be bad news. I'm unclear on the new rules around, and if the reason was already told then I apologize for not reading properly. I don't want to accidentally get banned, so... Well, while I do kind of understand where he's coming from, he was being too dramatic and exaggerating it. It wasn't really necessary to write that after... how many years? He did it only to jab at CYS and the members here, which isn't a reasonable thing to do. I get that, but I also think just kicking him away or saying it's the internet isn't really reasonable either. I mean, in that case, couldn't the same be said for those who found him unbearable? It's the internet, there are gonna be different opinions and attitudes. But, well, people can run sites however they want. If they want rules followed, then if you don't like it you leave. Otherwise, you abide. That's also kinda the internet.

I'll go lurk somewhere now and not disturb you further, I promise. Please let me be a roach.

I'm pretty sure he was banned because it was funny, and nothing of value was lost.

I don't think you have anything to worry about, but I was wondering if you'd respond to the ping. I always get curious about people I see online regularly who don't seem to post or do much I can glean from stalking EXP pages.

I remember you as being kind of insufferable but that was like three or four years ago and you seem to have gotten better, not being a tween anymore will do that I hear. (In addition to being the cure for an uncomfortably intense love of talking cats...)

Although judging by how abjectly terrified you sound even today I'd say the Purge did its job amazingly well! But anyhow, you're fine, nothing more to see here, carry on citizen and have a nice day. I don't see any need for End to deliver six warning shots to the back just at this moment.

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I made a comment and regretted it, so I edited it. Sorry for this useless message.

Original comment: 

All the grown-ass adults in here that are saying that you're whining or whatever? Ridiculous. If they have to claim that you're whining or bitching, they've stooped lower than anything they're trying to degrade you to. The more I delve into this site, the more I find toxic-ass crap from all over. You shouldn't have had to deal with what you did as a fifth grader— a FIFTH grader! You've got some guts for posting this, that's for sure (considering the asshole responses you've gotten) but as a guy who loved WC, I understand. A younger version of myself would have been devastated if someone told me my WC works were awful, but I see that you also look back and understand their views now. 

Still, it doesn't give anyone the right to give you crap. (Kris Jenner voice) You're doing amazing sweetie

lol

lmao i regretted it for a reason, I do believe those things but. I also... don't have a ton of experience on this site. I wasn't on here in its WC days, so pretty much as soon as I posted this, I had war flashbacks & decided it was best to leave this to the people who were actually there. It is kind of ridiculous that a bunch of adults were being assholes to a fifth grader, though.

 

also... you saved that comment? double lmao

It was a bad era with weak-willed admins who should have just banned all the fifth graders for failure to use grammar and averted the whole war honestly.

Anyhow editing that out was a GOOD instinct, Coins has ninja blood though and he's just too damn fast for you.

No adults (except for Bad Mod Kiel) ever set foot in Forum Games back before it was burned to the ground though and so Flamepelt was clearly lying anyhow.

Yeah... I'm going to say from now on that I don't trust anything pre-2016, tbh. I should also probably hold off on making too many more comments on any posts before I know context, bc obv I wasn't around on CYS to experience the joys of Warrior Cats. I've written many WC stories in my day, but I was too stupid (or perhaps too smart, but in a more "thank god I didn't know" way) to figure out that there were places to post them. 

THANK GOD

Fifth graders are annoying and deserve people being assholes towards them.

alright that's fair you do you

"a bunch of adults"

Actually, most of the people who were in pissing matches with the WC fans were usually the same age or just a couple years older, or at least I was. Most of the older members didn't participate in any harassment as far as I can remember.

Sounds more accurate. If it were actually adults & I had evidence, I'd be pissed, but based off of what y'all have said, I'm... a bit less concerned.

Yeah, I joined the anti-WC mob but I was vaccinated in other ways. I fell into the couple years older crowd.

e: You guys are meanie-patootie faces.  

I had an account during the time that the whole WC thing was going on, and I remember just being really confused about everything. I actually haven't gotten back on this site for a long time entirely for that reason. (I made a new account.) I think that lots of people on here can be pretty harsh sometimes, but I guess this is just that kind of website. If you're a writer, often times you will have to be prepared for some harsh criticism. I was pretty mature for a kid, so I wasn't bothered by people fighting over it—even though I was a WC fan back then, I never was really one of those crazy fans who read and wrote fanfictions or anything like that. I'm glad I was smart back then and didn't get involved, because I probably wouldn't have an account now if that were the case. 

Well, one thing. If a user gets banned once, that doesn't mean they'll get banned again. If they wait long enough before making another account and stop acting in a way that'd get them banned again, they can stay. We have a few members that way. We even have/had a few active and productive members who were former WC fans. For example, Crescentstar (no longer active these days), but she even got a featured storygame.

Glad to see you had a brain even at a young age, btw. Glad to see you got that user pic up and going too.

It really wasn't so much that they were writing fanfiction, the issue was that 90% of them were obnoxious self entitled dipshits who believed the internet existed only for them, and their presence only invited more of the same. When the purge happened no one was banned simply for being a fan no matter how fanatical, they were just told they couldn't write WC stories or do roleplay threads about being cats anymore. Since most of them had no other interest in any other aspect of the site they threw tantrums and left.

WC was banned entirely because of the attitude and behavior of the fans and they only had themselves to blame for that. Lots of people spent lots of time genuinely trying to help them improve their writing and only got hissed and clawed at in return, because the only thing you can do with a rabid animal is put it down.

In the end the only people the idiotic WC kids hurt were the handful of actually decent people who might have liked to read or write about the series, but that was the price for not policing their own.

Mass bans might have actually been a better solution but JJJ didn't like to do that.

Honestly I'd be for purging the wolf stories as well. (Or whatever that series is)

And fucking hell, that Scoople guy was a huge faggot.

Haven't seen one of those in awhile actually, but they were almost as bad as WC at one point and there's definitely some crossover among fans there. In fact it was probably the WC exodus that put an end to them.

I don't think it's any particular series, but wolf pack roleplays have been a thing weird pseudo-furry kids were doing even back when I was in junior high. (None of them ever bothering to read White Fang or Jungle Book for some reason...)

But the existence of actually good literature about dogs and wolves makes me cut the concept some slack as long as we're not being overwhelmed by them.

I think a mass ban would have led to a surge of spam accounts, all posting WC stories and complaining about the community.

I remember telling some kid that wouldn't stop messaging me to bitch about a review that I was going to mail their mom a coathanger for a 30th trimester abortion, but I'm not sure they understood what those words meant.

Good times.

... Is that, like, what... 7 years old? 6?

Well, let's do the math. A trimester is 3 months. Subtract three trimesters for the actual pregnancy and you have 27. 27 times 3 is 81. Divide 81 months by 12 for a year and you have 6 years and nine months.

I'm glad this topic was enough to stir you from the depths to post.

Nostalgia is one hell of a drug

Illuminati confirmed!

That seems to right about match the intelligence level of the kid I was dealing with.

Man, whenever I read threads like these, I kick myself for not being on CYS more as opposed to playing Agar.io. :^(

People still play that game?

I think so, but I don't anymore. If it wasn't clear, I would be playing games in the school library during my freshman year of highschool. I kind of regret it.