Here, let's try to help Digit's failed attempt at discussing current political world event shit. Here's a few more:
Trump and Kim's nuclear pissing contest
That thing about the Iranians and their nuke program
Jews and Palestinians kicking each other in the balls in Gaza (again)
Discuss if you want.
Jerusalem belongs to Jesus.
With Kim Jong, I've no idea what's going on. I don't think the North Korean government is stupid enough to actually give up their nukes, but maybe they will if they've found some secret way of not getting wiped out by America as soon as the nukes are gone. I don't know, it's a global shitshow.
The Iran Deal was a good thing and pretty necessary. Taking it away not only hurts the world, but also weakens the US' diplomatic ability as a whole.
In regards to the Jews and Palestines, I'm stuck between two attitudes. On one hand, it's clearly not the Jews' lands and the idea of taking other people's land and giving them their own ethno-state was a fucking terrible one. However, on the other hand, there is a certain white man's burden thing going on in my head where I realize the Israeli government is a lot more progressive and less backwards than the Palestinian one, and the idea of supporting the less immoral group in this immoral Endeavour seems to be an unlikable option. Plus, they're not that much better in the end. Ultimately, either it's the Palestinians land, or we should say fuck it, kick them both out and send over a group of Irish, Icelandic and Scandanavian feens to colonize the place, because fuck it, I want a non-theocracy shithole over there.
There's a reason they've been kicked out of over 110 countries throughout history.
And what is that reason?
The racist tendencies of Judaism leading to a very little population growth, meaning that the heavy conversion attitudes of the religions that sprouted from it spread far faster than it, allowing them to become a minority that could be be abused. Also, the noses.
He's wrong. My penis is waaay bigger than my nose.
Ogre11 Banned until 4018.
Not really an earth shattering world event, but still funny.
That white chick who said she was black and got to be head of the NAACP for awhile, got arrested for welfare fraud.
Lol, that’s racist.
Though to be honest, I posted the story figuring that one of you couldn’t resist making such a comment. Just wasn’t sure which one of you was going to do it first.
WW3 didn't start yet so I guess it went okay.
They signed something about the complete de-nuclearlization of Korea, but there weren't any specifics about when that was going to happen.
Oh and Dennis Rodman cried. Lol.
Fox News: North Korean state media highlights US concession on war games
Nothing solid, but I've an optimistic feeling about that. The Korean situation is probably going to improve, so that's nice.
But then, maybe there was an under the table understanding that it's all a charade anyway, and that the two would agree to metaphorically stroke each other's "egos" in the various media outlets for mutual benefit?
War games aren't nearly as important as you think they are, ultimately, and I think it means a lot more that Kim is stepping back from his aggressive posturing than anything, and actively at least claiming to be denuclearizing.
Anyhow, in the modern era thanks to the internet, suppression of information is harder than ever, and I feel the evidence is stacking that Kim has realized his position is going to be lost, and thus the best path forward is going with the tide.
At first that's what I thought, but that's not really true. North Korea's nuclear arsenal isn't going to help them when the very likely possibilities of civil unrest and that end up tearing him apart, and that's a very strong fear in this age. Kim still has on his side that war with him would be deadly, even without nukes, and in denuclearisation he opens up the avenue of limited but positive reform leading to him gaining the security and legitimacy that he so desires. That's a far stronger move than remaining the crazy nation with a gun to everyone's head. Without the justification of eliminating a nuclear power, and China eager to not have US troops on the Korean border, denuclearisation is clearly the intelligent option for Jong.
Well, I'm thinking this was all a long, drawn out series of bullshit anyway. He knows his nukes won't save him from the super powers of the world if it actually came to war. Basically he needed a way to save face (and possibly lesson economic sanctions against him), and of course on our end, we weren't really willing to go to war either. Too much cost and nothing really to gain. So Trump gets to save face (and gain political points), and The Glorious Leader gets to save face. Just a slow political con, and masterfully executed by both parties.
But at least Dennis Rodman gets to cry tears of joy. Haven't seen him this happy since he was a Chicago Bull.
How on earth do you conflate genuine negotiation and people changing their minds with "bullshit" and a "con game"? This would be marking the moment that Kim Jong was convinced the nuclear option wasn't he best one for his country, which he clearly thought it was in the past. Perhaps Kim isn't going to denuclearise, but if you think he is and he no longer thinks nukes will protect him, to call this bullshit and to ignore the incredible work of those involved in the negotiation would be the height of ignorance.
Well then you saying he knows his nukes won't save him seems even stupider, as that's the only reason he'd spend such outlandish amounts of money on nuclear armament. The idea that he's been provoking people purposefully for the sake of REMOVING these international walls is even more ridiculous. That's not how negotiation works, you don't try to make your existence seem like more of a threat when you can start trying to break down those walls from the get-go without putting more up.
If you're looking to legitimize your nation through negotiating, you don't do so by massively delegitimizing your nation so you can go back to legitimizing it. Trump was already willing to meet with Kim, he's said as much on the campaign trail, so I'm not really sure what you think the point of it was, unless you're confusing "Thing A happened, then Thing B happened" with "Thing A caused Thing B and was the only possible cause".
But yeah, not your strong suit, so whatever.
Not content on just making America great again, apparently we’re going to make Mars our bitch on top it.
Would you like to know more?
If you're going to send colonists to another planet, send them to Venus. The early sci-fi writers assumed that's exactly what would happen, since Venus is so much nearer and is only slightly smaller than the Earth. This changed when it was discovered that Venus is the hottest planet in the solar system, hotter even than Mercury, and has crushing atmospheric pressure at ground level. This makes it impossible for humans to set foot on the surface of Venus. Plus there's the matter of sulfuric rain.....
However, who said we had to set foot on the surface? Just as the Earth's atmosphere thins and cools the higher you go, so does Venus's. At approximately 30 miles above the surface, the temperature drops to around 72F, with the atmospheric pressure exactly equal to that on the Earth's surface. Floating at that level would be no trouble at all, since the oxygen and nitrogen mix which people would breathe (which can easily be extracted from Venus's atmosphere) would cause the settlement to float. And since the pressure is the same on the inside as on the outside, should there be a tear, the oxygen would seep out so slowly that the damage could be fixed without any particularly urgency. Unlike Mars, where such a breech would be catastrophic, due to the pressure difference.
The trip to Venus would require three months, as opposed to a trip to Mars, which would require between six to eight months.
With modern technology, you cannot simply blast off to Mars or Venus whenever you like. You have to wait for the planets to line up properly. Such ideal launch dates occur more frequently for trips to Venus than to Mars.
The Venusian thick atmosphere would naturally slow down arriving spacecraft, making the need for expensive rockets unnecessary, which a Martian landing would require.
As mentioned above, people on Venus would live with the conditions outside having the same temperature and air pressure found on Earth, unlike Mars which is much colder and has a much lower air pressure.
Although we cannot be 100% certain, Venus's gravity, at 9/10th that of Earth's, would likely not lead to bone decalcification and other health problems that Mars's low gravity would cause.
Venus provides natural protection against cosmic radiation. Mars doesn't.
Venus receives 4x more sun than Mars. This means a good source of energy. It also would be wonderful for plant life. Plants love carbon dioxide, and Venus's atmosphere is 95% carbon dioxide.
The only two advantages Mars has over Venus are:
You don't have sulfuric rain on Mars. However, at such a high altitude, the Venusian sulfuric rain is much rarer. Still, it does happen, so colonists would have to take vigilant measures to ensure they aren't caught outside during the rain.
You can actually set foot on the surface of Mars. If you're wearing a pressure suit, that is. Sure, the Venusian colonists won't be able to set foot on the surface of Venus, but they will be able to go outside without wearing pressure suits. All they'll need is a tank of oxygen. Otherwise, you'd be able to go outside in your underwear, if that appeals.
In summary, it would be cheaper and easier to colonize Venus than Mars.
If you believe I'm simply making this up, I invite you to read the following article, or Google the advantages of colonizing Venus over Mars and read the information for yourself.
Considering the Russians landed some probes on Venus back in the 70s, I’m sure they would approve.
Going to have to clear out the Nazis on the darkside of it first.
killing Moon Nazis makes you the Real Moon Nazi
Pamela Sargent wrote a Hard SF trilogy about the terraforming of Venus. I've only read the first one in the series (Venus of Dreams, 1986), but she had the colonists initially living in floating habitats in the upper atmosphere.
I've never read that series, but I'll be on the lookout for it.
I have one concern here. Is the low amount of oxygen enough? Because according to the link below, plants actually do need oxygen as well.
Do plants have to have oxygen to survive? Or can plants (other than the plants in wetlands) live without oxygen?
My reading on the subject never brought up this issue. I guess if the plants do need oxygen and if Venus doesn't have enough, then the plants would have to be grown in floating greenhouses.
Sorry, what the fuck is it that you're describing, exactly? I mean, you say that the gases the colonists breathe alone would hold the settlement afloat, so I'm assuming it's some, like, massive floating sphere of breathable gas with a colony in it, almost like a hot air balloon where we're in the balloon, but apparently, the colonists can be caught in the rain, which they couldn't if they were in a self-contained atmosphere, but if they weren't and could be caught by the rain, the gas would escape, and... fuck, I don't know.
Please clarify, David.
The colonists would be able to exit the floating colony and walk around the outside. Presumably you'd have catwalks or other structures allowing such excursions, such as to make repairs, or simply for the pleasure of being able to go outside. There's nothing complicated about that. You wouldn't even need a pressure lock, since the pressure on the inside and the outside is equal. You'd just have to bring a tank of air with you. Venus's atmosphere at that height won't harm you, you just can't breathe it. You'd have to be careful about the sulfuric rain, and, I suppose, watch out that you don't fall off. The colony's air would contain a mix of nitrogen and oxygen, which could float in Venus's atmosphere, which is 95% carbon dioxide. Depending on the precise nature of the construction, it is possible that additional buoyancy would be needed, in which case you'd use a system similar to a blimp on earth, filled with either hydrogen (which is perfectly safe to use on Venus, unlike Earth) or helium. Both gasses can be extracted from Venus's atmosphere, so that's not a problem. In the event of a tear, the hydrogen or helium would escape so slowly that there would be ample time to effect repairs. If you're dubious about this, it is worth noting that in World War I, British planes would fire bullets into German blimps, which could still stay afloat despite extensive damage.
Hope that clarifies, Steve. I invite you to read the link I posted for more info, or indeed, visit NASA's own website.
:) Sounds awesome!
Ah, it does indeed. Thank you.
:) This sounds awesome! (And would make an awesome sci-fi as well.)
I think they should try to bring self-sustaining life to as many planets & moons as they can. As we stand today, a planet-killer asteroid could still wipe out all life we know of. Colonies on Venus, Mars, the moon (and other moons) would give life and humanity a better chance at survival.
Another glorious day in the Empire...
Wondering if this was just some independent disgruntled nut, or someone stupidly took that Milo faggot seriously when he was calling for people to shoot a journalist for vigilante justice.
This seems to be the one a lot of people are really worried about since it's most likely going to result in an even more conservative Supreme Court. Get your abortions and gay marriages in now folks!
"What is wrong with being a white supremacist? God is a racist and a white supremacist," - Russell Walker
CHRIST'S GENEALOGY (according to this crayon eating fartnugget).
The newspaper that was shot up and the police commissioner responding to the situation performed their roles with a great deal of class and I'm very impressed by them. But nah, was just come faggot stalker.
For a racist, God sure has a thing for Asian Women.
From the homeless guy in California claiming to be God, to the Ethiopian Church claiming to have the actual Ark of the Covenant hidden away somewhere, to this family in Japan, we really do have people belting the entire globe who want a piece of the Abrahmic pie no matter what they believe about it.
Well this is happening today apparently:
Can't wait to see what the fallout of this shitstorm will be.
A few people got hit with rocks and the cops deployed some flash bangs but that’s about it. The rally and the counter protest both sucked.
that was fucked up actually. the cops lined up in front of the proud boys and teargassed the counter-protestors. they then posted their mugshots on social media, which they literally don't do for other suspects.
When i thought Brazil was horrible, i find this.
Well, considering a lot of countries send military and resources to help on these kinds of situations, it's the best thing to hope for. I doubt these people in Bangladesh have guns like Murica, so rebelling would be useless. Better hope for Globalization to save them than to keep quiet and get murdered/dragged out of your home.
Everything else is spot on. I was pretty much neutral/meh on Facebook for some time now but helping a dictatorship murder innocent students because "muh money" is ridiculous, even more so considering Bangladesh isn't even that big of a country. Unlike Google with China.
Now, i get it that this post has a left tone to it, but https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/94ivyd/school_students_have_been_protesting_in_demand/e3lwjzf/?context=3 is unnaceptable. No matter your political position or social movement, picking a fight over the guy for expressing his empathy for inexistent sexism is ridiculous.
This seems more promising as far as good world news goes.
Nice, looks like pretty soon your going to have more souls for your soul furnace... Still for those of us who aren't undead, that kinda sucks.
Right wing nut, Alex Jones got UNpersoned on several media platforms recently. While I get the logic behind doing it by the various corporations, not sure if it was the best way to handle him.
Given his love of conspiracy theories, the fact that several large corporations banned him, he now actually has a more legitimate (if very weak) argument for his New World Order insanity. (See! They shut me down! I told you!) Not to mention even folks that think he’s a complete fucktard might still very well defend him on the freedom of speech thing. Still I doubt if much is going to change apart from some grumbling.
In any case the tinfoil hat wearers will have to go elsewhere to learn about the ongoing gay frog crisis.
I mean, kind of hung by his own petard there.
Idiots wanted to go on about how bakers don't have to make a fuckin cake or whatever, but private media companies are required to give them a platform
but companies have no ethical obligation, as fucked up as that sounds. they have only a profit incentive.
if you want to criticize capitalism, be my guest, but I don't think that's what you're doing her e
Okay Unite the Right 2: Neo Nazi Boogaloo is apparently happening later on this Sunday.
Let's see if this one results in at least a bigger shitstorm than whatever that pathetic display was supposed to be in Portland a few days ago. (Yes, expectations are very low)
Probably can't agree on who is "white" again.
From what I can gather is a lot of the infighting is based on the idea if a fascist fun time rally is a good idea at this time. The guy organizing it told the more “hardcore” Nazis to stay home because they don’t want to have a bad image. Even folks like Richard Spencer and Don Black don't think its a great idea.
“We do not want the image of being a bunch of weird losers who march around like assholes while completely outnumbered and get mocked by the entire planet.”
Well Digit wanted to post this, but he's gotta save all his technical knowledge for nuke school, so here:
As they say, play stupid games, win stupid fucking prizes.
Last blog post.
There aren't enough Picard facepalms.
Pet two puppies!
Satanists held a rally in Little Rock, Arkansas.
Favorite bit is where it said counter protestors held up signs saying stuff like “Blasphemy is not free speech,” “Satan has NO rights.”
Oh and apparently Mormons don't want to be called "Mormons" anymore, but who gives a shit.
That Mormon shit is stupid. I mean, even the idea of changing Mormons to "Church of Jesus Christ" doesn't work, because you know, that's fucking all Christian churches.
That Satanic shit looks badass, though.
Satanic shit is pretty objectively cool looking, firstly. It's why that kind of aesthetic is so popular. But in regard to the actual event, yeah, it seems fairly obviously to be a good thing, given the purpose is for enforcing religious equality and separation of church and state. Calling it "edgelords" is either missing the point of the event entirely or purposefully ignoring it.
that's a cool statue. it should go in a museum when they inevitably cave because of christians' very sensitive feelings and take them all down
Lol, they're just fucking with this guy now.
The dude should just take the gay/tranny money and openly claim he's going to donate it to some sort of "family values" organization. It would save him a lot of pointless legal shit.
Prisoners go on strike, the whole ceases to function.
White people are such pussies. They conquer and colonize a previously desolate country, only to give it away to the Zulus, who aren't even native to South Africa. And in 2 years, when the black South Africans are starving, the EU will provide them with foreign aid. This is what I call pathological altruism.
Well it worked so well for Zimbabwe, figured might as well try it again!
Don't forget that when the ANC talks about white privilege and how people with privilege won't give it away on their own, white people used to have far more privilege than they do now (before the end of Apartheid), and they voluntarily chose to give it away. Again, pathological altruism.
To be fair, the Zulus came to be who we know them as today in a relatively short time due to european influence. African wars were being fought mostly in traditional/sporty ways of combat because otherwise Tribal Warfare is a pretty brutal way to lose a lot of people all too easily. The European style of war reminded him and a lot of other people that, oh right, you can go to war to kill a fuckton of people and get a lot of land and laborers extremely quickly instead of doing a song and dance to settle minor border disputes! So they started using knives instead of feathered clubs and map-blobbed an Africa that would have little recollection of how to fight a full-scale total war.
White people still control a majority of wealth and tend to have it far easier in SA. Also, they refused to sell their land lol.
White genocide is when you have to give back things you stole :(((
Dude, if someone hands you stolen property, it's still stolen property.
Way more than half of the land in SA is still owned by a tiny minority of the population lol
e: it's also not like the nineties are distant history lmao
skin color matters insofar as white people were the ruling class until very recently, with unfair economic power that was propped up by the government.
non-white Africans were excluded from massive parts of the economy and now don't have the same generational wealth that white South Africans tend to have, because they're still benefiting from apartheid. it's unfortunate, but it's also the only way to prevent white people from continuing to be a de facto ruling class
It's pretty fucking dumb and disingenuous that you're equating Shaka Zulu with race laws that were in place until 1994, but I think you know that already
stop saying stupid shit then lol
No, it's genocide when you're getting killed and raped on a plot of land you colonized. And if we gave blacks back everything they stole from us then they'd be naked, living in huts made from mud and human feces... like parts of Africa before the Dutch showed up and taught them their language, gave them cattle and food, taught them how to build, etc.
Also, most of Africa used to be owned by WHITE European countries and the Roman Empire. They didn't steal the land... If my father took someones' house and my family lived there for many generations, did my great grand-children steal the house?
While I despise Trump, he's right about something:
Look at some of these horrible pictures:
i admire how you come right out and say it
we need more of this brazenness
The Romans took a small strip of Northern Africa, they weren't romping around in the Sahara.
They didn't steal the house but they're living in stolen property, therefore they should get out.
that article is from a far-right news group affiliated with a white secessionist party
The article in question doesn't say they refused to sell their land, it says they were willing but they wanted too much for it, the government only offering a tenth of their asking price.
And it seems unreasonably childish to say that it's "giving back things that you stole", because you and I both know that's not what's happening, and you're making an emotional argument. The people we're talking about did not steal this land, they inherited it.
hey mizal, why is it that you spew retarded shit and then say "lol ur mad"?
what? i never tell people they're mad when i don't have a point. if you think that... you must be angry
Sort of wondering why Malk jumped all over Mizal about something that had nothing to do with the subject while Steve directly challenged his weak emotional based argument and he didn’t say shit.
Malk, how do you justify “giving back” land to people when neither those people nor their ancestors ever owned the land.
because you can't get rid of something as politically and economically damaging as apartheid without taking further steps to dismantle it. in 94, white people were still left as a ruling class, controlling a majority of wealth and property. when apartheid was removed, black people were granted equal status under the law, but were still by and large an underclass.
this is ugly, but land seizure is probably necessary to combat apartheid's legacy.
you can call me a cuck now.
Nah, it’s not necessary. It’s really just a plain old revenge mindset, which is fine if that’s how the Africans want to get their giggles, though most of the time acting like a pack of violent savages doesn’t work out so great for them in the long run.
Personally, not sure why anyone white would WANT to live in fucking Africa.
In any case Malk you don’t really give a shit about the “African plight”, you’re just arguing because you got an unhealthy obsession with wanting to get ass pounded by giant black cock.
god, who gives a shit what you think. you have a fucking boner for being one of the good mexicans so badly you would probably build a thousand child concentration camps, if it meant one white kid with skinny wrists and tiny ears would call you one of the good ones on twitter, you george zimmerman ass motherfucker god damn
Pretty sure its obvious I'd probably build a thousand child concentration camps for the shits and giggles. Getting praise (from any race) for it would just be a bonus.
Gotta love how Trayvon is held up now as some "victim" when the guy was a dumb ass thug that fucked with the wrong person that night.
While all of you become old and wrinkly, I will not age. I will become the Conqueror of Worlds.
If you join the Discord like a man, maybe you would understand. For someone claiming to be experienced, you lack in making inferences based on context clues.
What? My original reply was asking about your comment until I realized AYT was just your username.
Congratulations, you have a few brain cells.
I deserved that.
This is more disgusting than foot lettuce:
I thought Buddhists were peaceful:
Sorry that the stories have no actual correlation. Its just some crap I heard in the news.
Buddhism is a peaceful ideology, but in the same way Christianity is. They don't actually do that.
Okay so I'm sure everyone heard about John McCain dying, but here you go.
Someone shot up a football video game tournament. No info on if mass shootings are a sport now though.
Oh and in further hilarity, Alex Jones just got caught with tranny porn on his phone. Guess the Illuminati finally turned him gay the same way they did with the frogs.
Huh, I hadn’t heard McCain had died, but that’s nice. Jones is fucking hilarious, though, I’m delighted.
mccain getting posthumously dunked on and liberals getting mad is the funniest fucking thing, to me .
republicans are totally behind Trump, to an almost ridiculous degree. they don't fucking care about mccain lol. they wrote him off as a cuck like four months ago. they fucking think he's in hell lmao.
but all these democrats are like he was so honorable such a great guy because of their fucking baffling need to find some common humanity with, what is at this point an american fascist party.
democrats are a gang of toothless jackals lmao. they're gonna fucking lose and it's gonna be Immortan Trump 2032 baby
democrats are a gang of toothless jackals lmao. they're gonna fucking lose and it's gonna be Immortan Trump 2032 baby
I sure hope so, though I question if Trump will even get a second term.
Then again didn’t expect him to win in the first place.
There some bloody paragraphs, And you mistake my point, any argument worth having has to be civil, doesn't make the more licentious ones any less amusing, rather on the contrary, those are the most enjoyable of them all, but in the end utterly useless.
Well I have to say, Watching the US elections on tape was the best entertainment had in a long time, and the Trump victory, and twitter bashing, glorious.
EDIT: On tape? fuck I'm old.
I still have a Dilma Soundboard, It's too fucking good to delete
In Brazil, in short, It's a clusterfuck, anyone that's born in brazil and is over the age of 30 (I think) can become a candidate, and since the vote tally is individual and not district based, the pool is a clusterfuck as well, I think we have more political parties then people, and it shows, so anyone reaches first turn, but if the voting is inconclusive, a second turn is made and then only the highest voted in the first turn get ahead.
One of the best things of a completely free candidacy It's the joke candidates, like Satan, Jesus, Stalin, and I do believe Trump is also running, Satan's one of the longest running candidates I think 20 years strong.
Already Seen that video, Good channel as well.
But It should've been retitled, how democracy ruined my country, since we were doing just fine in the military dictatorship, they even left power with a positive approval rating, and in 21 years they just abducted and killed a little less than 400 people, and most of them are unconfirmed, mostly because it's so hard to find a body here in Brazil, a true "peaceful" dictatorship if you ask me.
This would be funny If I wasn't banned from the COG forums long ago, who knew that a joke about incest, then another about CP, then another about trans, would be so offensive?
Prager U is far from a good channel in every way. They've had the message "The US is the only country where "If you don't succeed, try again" is a thing, an entire thing about how modern art is stupid and bad, they bitched constantly about girls being allowed into the boy scouts for "reasons", and included the notorious liar Nigel Farrage on their channel after he betrayed his country and lied to shit.
I think the best solution for the current welfare crisis that we're having, is a simple solution that is a pain to implement, UBI, universal basic income, you take away all those privileges like SUS, child benefits, and the rest, and institute a basic "salary", that is the same for everyone in Brazil, that way you encourage people to leave the mediocre situation that afflicts most of the poor populace, since you don't loose your paycheck if you move up in life.
As for Bolsonaro, Yeah definitive Trump vibes there, but for all intents and purposes, that may not be a bad thing, at the very least it'll be amusing.
And Zass, how quaint that the two Brazilians here are SW old republic fans eh?
Well first off, Yes that project is gargantuan endeavour that shouldn't be taken lightly, and our current PIB/GDP is over 1.7 trillion USD, and such action would surely be massively expensive to implement, but our economy would be able to support itself quite nicely especially with a higher cash flow than before, but no it wouldn't be 900 BRL to every single people, much like "bolsa familia" there would be minimum standards towards delivering said benefit, as being 18 years or older, and not currently in jail, that narrows it down from 200+ million to under 100, the age restriction is to prevent people from breeding like rabbits to get more benefits.
But the project isn't to give people a way of living of it as much as it's to give them a fighting chance in life, as for the practicality of actual money versus vouchers, well we already do that over here, and people still mismanage it and use their money to buy superfluous things, that sadly is something out of the reach of most govs, about the idea for classes about financial security is a nice idea, especially if it works, but even better would be to include them into the basic curriculum of the schools and make it a requirement to apply for the UBI basic education.
Now for the money equation, giving the current PIB of Brazil, if we take the average tax (which I think it's lower than the actual value) and remove 20% of our PIB and place it as our public budget, and then take 40% of the public budget and place it on the UBI it would mean that monthly any citizen on the economically active zone 18-70 would receive almost 500 BRL per month, making for a great start, way better than the current "Bolsa Familia".
I do recommend the video hyperlinked on the UBI in the previous post, it's quite good, and that channel is great.
And Unlike my previous assertiveness about the judicial system, this method of WellCare is completely theorical, so the details of economic and societal impacts are just that, theorical, and I'm not an economist, just a CDF Engie with fascist tendencies, but even so I do believe it would be better than the current broken system.
EDIT: About Trump, Diplomatically yeah he's tearing down everything, but the economy is doing well in the US, you can see it when the bloody USD is 4+ BRL, but even so, I don't find a great president, and it's hard to think that Bolsonaro will be diferent, but I do know his VP General Mourão, He's a good man and a competent general, about the good man part that's at least what my parents told me about him, so at least he has that going for him.
In regards to Bolsonaro, i think Trump has been really detrimental to the USA economical situation.
That's objectively untrue. The US economy is booming and one of the few things keeping his support afloat among some moderates.
i think Trump has been really detrimental to the USA economical and diplomatical situation. He's pretty much isolating his country gradually and picking fights unnecessarily.
Trump realizes that our supposed allies are taking advantage of us, and so he's putting an end to that. Being nice isn't the same thing as being diplomatic.
I have been led to believe that Trump's policies are taking an increasingly isolationist tone, and that China would eventually surpass the american economy due to it. Could you explain your thoughts on the american economical situation on more detail?
At the time i wrote this i was thinking about moving the embassy on Israel. But what puzzles me more are his speeches.
I can understand that his words reflect his policies well, and honesty with a public servant is pretty rare, but perhaps he could mince words and close himself more? When i look for one of his speeches and his interactions with foreign governments, it looks to me like he is branded as incompetent or stupid by foreign governments, who see him and to a extent USA as unreliable in trade and further diplomatic efforts.
I also understand that being diplomatic and nice are two different things, but i believe deception has become somewhat necessary on international politics, to the extent where you need to be nice even if you're looking forward to an aggressive move.
But i'm no american and what knowledge of your country's current position i can get are through news sites (many of them with a bias and with liberal tendencies, sadly), so i'd like to hear your position on what is happening to America right now on more detail. It would also be nice if you or anyone could point me to an unbiased news site, as i've been looking for those for quite a bit of time.
Okay dude. You can get mad about my pretend opinions that you made until the cows come home, if that's what you want. lmao
Interesting how when it's Malk, it's true, but when it's the Brazillian who is mad at criminals and talks about nothing about how bad shit is because of them rather than actual solutions or you bringing up a story specifically to get emotions running somehow becomes false.
So... yeah, you joked about Malk being emotional, at the time when he was arguing. Don't make me walk you to the goal here, Miz.
No, I'm not looking for examples, you're just misunderstanding and assuming that your stupid view of the situation is accurate. I'm pointing out that when the emotional label was applied to Malk, you thought it was worth joking about, but when it was, if anything more accurately, applied to the other two arguments, it became dismissible because you didn't agree with it.
This news is mostly to talk about the new arms race that's happening, Russia putting some heavy funds towards re-arming their country, and fuck they got the advantage when it comes to defensive weapons, after all look at that old, outdated thing that is the patriot defense system.
Can you Blame him?
Can't be bothered to dig up the gun thread (Pretty sure we had one) when I can easily remember this one instead.
Anyway, another round of play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Probably shouldn't look at this at work/school (It's not porn though, unless you count the fat dude with his shirt off)
Welp, not the best thing to watch before breakfast.
Sorry if I turn it into a gun-control post, but I didn't have a shot (hnngh) at this in the other thread.
It's probably due to the cultural difference, but my neighbors being able to hold guns in a property dispute seems like the premise for a dystopian movie to me (or a tacky pulp action). I know that most gun owners are not going to shoot people yadda yadda yadda, but life's fragile enough; why make it easier for two idiotic fat neighbors to cut it short for you?
And yes, the victim there was A-level stupid to start threatening two armed men even after they warned him. Yes, his wife and brother should have talked him out of that instead of recording and giving him a bat. But "play stupid games win stupid prizes" was last used in here to comment on vegan bikers who intentionally went in the middle of ISIS territory. It's weird when that ends up being comparable to an argument between American neighbors.
I didn't even notice that not one of them thought of calling the police, I guess that accounts for a medal on top of the stupid prize. I expressed myself badly in the previous post; I agree to the whole "play stupid games win stupid prizes" for these people, the thing that stood out to me was how easy it was for some random neighbors to have both a gun and a shotgun and use them on another idiot. But again, maybe it's just because that's a particularly bad area and I know nothing of the place.
This video embodies America perfectly. Absolutely perfectly. Two groups of retards fighting and dying over a mattress in an alleyway...
Nah, don't generalize just because it's easier. This video shows some of the problems your country has, but it embodies America just as much as it embodies humanity as a whole, two ants fighting or your poor life choices.
Little bit of old news but whatever. Humanity loses more information of its past due to information entropy despite active preservation,
basically a museum burned down.
The museum's entire Egypt section pretty much burned down. This includes the 5 mummified corpses they had stored there. Many other artefacts were burned away. It is the oldest museum in the country and now its gone along with around 90% of the artefacts it was stored in. They also had no digital backups of the artefacts and the information pertaining to it (don't really know why they didn't tbh, seems like in this day and age having backups is a requirement to get anything done).
Egypt is slightly pissed at this loss of its own cultural heritage and the Egypt Consulate in Brazil has been sent to see exactly what the damage to these artefacts are. Anyway, chances are that now if you want to know more about the Egyptian artefacts collected by Brazilian Emperor Pedro I, your gonna have to ask the Egyptologists who saw and studied them before the museum burned down. Lets hope this is last of humanities past that has to be lost to time immemorial :)
Apparently most Americans will be getting a text message from Trump today around 2:18 EST.
You can't block him either. Mizal is personally hoping he'll send dick pics to everyone.
What a glorious time to be alive.
Yes. Arrived on time and only once.
I thought the mushroom comparison meant the shape, not the red spots
Much needed levity....for me...apparently not the people involved.
I mean, this is awful news and reminds us that America's reached it's peak and is going to quickly crumple and rot, but it's bringing us back to early Obama times at worst, and even then, it's not like these gender discrimination helped trans people, those were the gender orientation laws, which aren't going to be affected. As far as legal precedent goes this is bad, but it's not the end of the world and we can get through it in a few years.
Well the person spear heading this is the head of the department, Roger Severino, and he was appointed by Trump, when the dude's written an article about how same-sex marriage is an attack on religious freedom, so I think Trump's taking the blame for appointing this scumfuck.
Sounds like a great guy.
Oh, you're to hating gay marriage now? Nice one, good to know you've drifted over there.
I’ve always hated gay marriage. I even spent a thread debating you about it.
You always go back and forth where the wind blows, as we both know, let's not bullshit.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
He tried that with the military already, and it got overturned by activist judges. This will never happen; America is fucked.
From what i gather, this legislation takes away gender identity from sex and only affects cases where gender discrimination is treated as discrimination against the opposite sex and such.
Overall, i think they could separate gender identity and sex alright. From a biological perspective, there are two sexes (not going into non-binary and other controversial stuff) so yeah, it makes sense on a census to not have people dodging the question by saying they identify as an attack helicopter or something.
I think this could be improved by putting the gender identity as a separate parameter and judge discrimination in accordance with whatever social justice laws you have, if there's any. It's the best course of action to avoid confusion in the judiciary in regards to that.
Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
This bit might be of interest too since Nazis are another favorite topic around here.
Interesting piece, in the end the party that came out of the election the better were the Green though. There's also a fun film (and book, but I haven't read it) on the same subject, Look who's back (2015).
Populism in Europe is getting louder, but it's no surprise. Aside from contextual causes, there's the general cycle of "war-peace-distension-open frontiers-cultural mix-want of national identity-populism-closure-tension-war."
Here in Italy we have two populist parties at the head of the government (sigh) but our overweight legal system and bureaucracy prevent them from doing too much damage for now. The Neo-Fascists have luckily been limited to very low percentages in the elections, but have been reinvigorated in their propaganda by the fact that one of the two populist parties in charge is right-wing.
How is there a cycle of that in any way?
Yeah, should have probably worded that better. I mean that after a war (or dictatorship) in a country there can be a period of peace by the end of which people can't remember or bring themselves to care about how terrible war/dictatorship is. And so extreme views are given more and more freedom to expand.
Ok I fucked up and I should probably stop trying to generalize this process.
Nah, Steve's ok as long as one doesn't purposefully start a fight. I was already done by the fact that he replied to me, might as well try to save my ass.
I don't necessarily know if that's true. WW2 followed WW1 while everyone involved could still remember the previous war and it's unprecedented brutality.
Bombs sent to the Clintons, Obama, CNN and others. A lot of right wingers basically calling it a political stunt by the left. (FAKE BOMBS) People getting increasingly pissed off on all sides.
It's a great time for strife and chaos!
If this is true and not our usual propaganda machine acting, then i guess there are mad nazis on Trump's great sinister plan.
I mean, come on. Everyone got out intact, the bombs somehow couldn't be sent on a more innefective method (Welp, let's send this weapon through the mail. Gotta pray It doesn't trigger before It gets there or people find it lol) and it is being used as a weapon against the right wing in media, quite conveniently.
I'll try to keep my expectations low and hope the investigations clear it out, but hell does it look suspicious.
What, you legitimately believe that the entire media might just be bullshitting and making this up, because there was an ineffective assassination attempt? Are all politically motivated attacks that don't have a body count suspicious to you, you fucking lowlife retard?
What, you legitimately believe that the entire media might just be bullshitting and making this up, because there was an ineffective assassination attempt?
No, i believe this could have been planned by the "victim", which explains the things i pointed out. Again, doesn't mean the bombs are fake, just that the "attack" was carried on another purpose.
Are all politically motivated attacks that don't have a body count suspicious to you, you fucking lowlife retard?
When everyone gets out miraculously well, the bombs are sent on a ridiculously ineffective way and the victim starts using said attack for propaganda and attacks on their opposition? It's not just one or two things, but three at the same time.
i guess this isn't the least bit suspicious and, indeed, it could have only been carried out by the demons the right wing is lol
"If this is true and not our usual propaganda machine acting" means you think there's a possibility it's the work of the media making up shit, retard.
Ridiculously ineffective way? How the fuck do you think a bomber should get the small bombs they're incapable of making to their target? What better solution is there here?
Yes, the people who were almost bombed are attacking the violent people who attacked them, presumably on the right. This is suspicious because...?
Hang on, so you think that the bomber was terrible at his job because he was super ineffective in how he did it, so that's suspicious... but you also think it's suspicious that no one was hurt? Which is it? Was the bomber a shitty bomber, and thus it's quite likely no one would get hurt, or was it suspicious that no one got hurt because it was a reasonable bombing attempt?
It's clear the only person scratching to turn this into propaganda is you, and other retards like your kind. You try to twist the situation into being some big conspiracy theory. You can't have it be suspicious that a bomber was terrible at his job, but it also be suspicious that the bomber didn't succeed. Pick one, retard.
Hey, I think the Cave Man dude is on my side. Sweet.
Omfg I’m famous for The Ghost People
/ shameless plug.
Edit- Not famous for working hyperlink.
Still annoyed you went with the dream ending. Hack move, kid, hack move.
True, but the ending is more subtle than it appears. It is a classic example of the misinformation effect/retroactive interference. The protagonist sees a wooden statue at the science television event after waking, and mistakenly imprints the image upon his dream. He then erroneously believes that somehow he was able to see into the past during his dream, that somehow he is psychic.
Strange that no one picked up the true meaning. You see, the story was a commentary on the imperfection of human memory, especially when it comes to dream recall and post-awakening interference and distortion of dream memories.
That or this comment is complete bullshit.
I'm assuming the comment is clearly bullshit, yeah. I mean, if that was your intention, you really fucked up your story.
Or maybe you're purposefully taking the meaning of the phrase this way, instead of taking it as the joke it is supposed to be, retard.
Infiltration, installation in a structure or vehicle, simply walking there and exploding yourself... There are several more effective ways sick people can kill.
If you believe there is no better way than sending bombs through mail, then you're more than a little naive.
Presumably on the right...
First, this is an accusation they can't back up.
Second, this isn't the first time people staged extremist attacks as a means to convince stupid people to give power to them. See Vargas paranoia with communists and the way he used them as justification, as well as the military dictatorship.
The combination of the three things is suspicious. The bomber sent a bomb through an ineffective method, quite obviously having the explosives catched by the FBI, all the "victims" got out unscathed and the whole deal is being used as political tool against the right.
You quite simply want your political side winning, so of course you're defending them. The thing is that the possibility this is a planned move is still out there.
"I don't have an argument here, so i'll call your tinfoil hat-wearer and try to discredit your opinion with a bunch of insults."
- Steve, 2018
FFS Steve, did you ever consider that the bomber deliberately sent the explosives through packages as to have the FBI catch them? No? Well, i guess you really have nothing to say.
Good luck with your strawman arguments, dude. I have better things to do.
So you opened it by saying "Either the media's lying or there's some crazy violent right wing dude" and the proceeded to argue that there might not be a crazy right wing dude, but you're not saying the media's lying? That's not a joke, that's you saying stupid shit and pretending it was a joke when you're corrected, or else you genuinely don't know how to use language.
Well suicide bombings out, he has multiple targets, and he's probably not an elite spy, so he's not going to be able to infiltrate past security to be able to plant it on property. See how quickly you run out of options? It's pretty hard for random psychos to sneak into secure locations, retard. So yeah, this was clearly the best way and you don't have another one. Next.
OK, the critics can't prove their accusation that it's definitely a right wing. So?
So, do you think that if this was a genuine bombing, the victims would or wouldn't use this as political fuel? If no, that's stupid, of course they would. If so, then it's not suspicious, because they're doing what they would in either situation.
Hell, why do their reactions matter? Unless they were in league with the bomber, they don't know it was a fake attack, and they're doing what they would either way.
Why is it suspicious that someone who is bad at bombing couldn't kill anyone?
So really, in total, we have 1. Leftists are using an attack against Leftists are fuel, something they'd do if it was a real attack. Not suspicious. 2. A bomber was not capable of sneaking into multiple very secure locations to plant bombs. Not suspicious. 3. A bomber didn't kill anyone. Not suspicious, failed bombings happen all the time.
Zass clearly doesn't know which way he wants to take this, because he's not looking at facts, he's arguing his point. He doesn't know whether the bomber was shit and thus shouldn't have killed people, or he was good at his job and should've.
Sure, it's possible, but the idea that anything about this was suspicious in any way is ridiculous, and it's very unlikely.
I guess better late than never.
What, overall, or separate to its benefits? Because overall the media's far, far better than none, but yeah, it definitely leads to sensationalizing, people digging in with their side and of course giving huge amounts of screen time to people like Trump because it gets ratings.
Ah yes, the almighty caravan of ISIS fighters nears. I'm not really sure why it's supposed to be scary in any way, really. I mean, even if you despise immigrants, isn't 7000 a tiny amount compared to overall annual immigration?
It's a caravan train for the Crimson Caravan Company, they're trying to establish a trade route through Mexico.
How can they die from attrition when Soros & Co. are looking after them?
What? They caught the bomber already? Oh come on! The Unabomber eluded the authorities for 20 fucking years before they caught him!
Then again this fucktard was riding around in a "I love Trump van" making it pretty easy to pick him out.
Guess i was wrong. It was just a really stupid lunatic.
Yes, you were wrong. Steve was right. Let's all enjoy this regular moment occurring once again.
As annoying as you are, i guess i can't complain that you're relieved you're right for a change.
Trump should drop a hot track similar to Eminem's Stan.
Okay, people. Bolsonaro won, which is probably the equivalent of Trump to brazillian liberals.
Too lazy to post more news sites, but i know they repreat the same things:
Bolsonaro is homophobic, misogynist, racist, taxist, marxist, narcisist, rapist, xavist...
Bolsonaro won with a divisive campaign, bla bla bla, the brazillian people were misled by propaganda and can't make choices.
Citation of a bunch of his policies with the most negative, biased tone they can set.
Yeah I just checked this out a bit, some Brazilian CoGites were going on about how fascism has won in their country and freedom has died with applause.
Indeed, freedom for those fuckers who benefitted from PT's retarded welfare policy. Some (or many) of which shouldn't even be receiving those benefits, all while we suffer with bad healthcare, security and education.
He's a hard right wing candidate with major support of the youths. Of the candidates, he seemed to be by far the least corrupt, and in Brazil there's fucking ridiculously lax policies on crime, like minimum sentences of 25 years no matter what you do or tiny penalties if you commit any crime underage. Bolsonaro is against these and wants a harsh stand against crime including the use of torture and harsher sentences, and in an election where corruption is rife and there's a major problem, people want a solution that they see in Bolsonaro.
Unfortunately, the dude's openly racist and homophobic, and he openly harkens back to the days of the military dictatorship and has said he supports dictatorship, which many people agree with, as despite how brutal it was for some people, there was order and far less crime. In an election with few options, people saw him as a radical move, but one that would change their situation.
It is almost as Steve said, albeit with some misconceptions.
Bolsonaro's talk about gays is derived from a somewhat conservative/religious part of brazillian culture. It's not actually about persecuting gays or something, but about how he wouldn't like if his son was homossexual or whatever LGBTQE gender. I honestly can't say much about it because it's a mystery even to me.
I do know, however, that people with this kind of rethoric do say oftentimes that they have nothing against gays. And most do tend to accept their children sexual orientation after a while.
Second, he's supposed to be racist, but his father-in-law (i think that's the word in english) is afrodescendent and they have good relations with each other. Similarly, another politician, Hélio Negão, who's ethnic as well, declared support for Bolsonaro and both have good relations as well.
As for his dictatorship love, it's not uncommon in Brazil. While it's something i don't agree with, many people considered that regime better than the disregulated mess we have now. He did, however, swear to abide and act by the constitution in his speech to Globo's Jornal Nacional (National News), saying that he would govern by and for democracy. He also wouldn't get anywhere trying to bring back a dictatorship, not with both the people and other powers to stop him.
Finally, i leave to you to think whatever you want about him. I do know however that his proposed budget cuts and reforms are much needed. And that some guns would come in handy next time some retard comes to get my money on the bus.
Oh, and he was certainly better than the other candidates. Between a bunch of suspicious and/or innefective people, a candidate that obeys and seeks advice from a prisoner, an open supporter of communism and Bolsonaro. I'd pick Bolsonaro any day.
On the gay things:
“I would be incapable of loving a homosexual son. I’m not going to be a hypocrite: I’d rather my son died in an accident than showed up with some bloke with a moustache.”
“If I see two men kissing each other in the street, I’ll whack them.”
Those are both having something against gays. One's about committing assault against someone for being gay. I don't know what misconception there is you're pointing out. All you added is "Yeah, he's homophobic because he's conservative and religious". Yeah, thanks. That doesn't change anything I said.
On the race thing, he said his children were too well raised to date blacks. That's racist. Having a black step-father doesn't change that, and neither does a black guy liking him. That's the "I have black friends argument". It's like saying that sexism doesn't exist, because everyone has a mother.
Anyhow, yeah, the dude's said several times that the only solution and way to change the country is dictatorship, so he might just be lying about following the democracy to take power, as any autocratic leader would do.
So yeah, racist, homophobic and pro-dictatorship, no misconceptions there.
I literally just explained how his speech against gays was more emotional and traditional than anything. And how i've seen people with this kind of rethoric change their views with time. Dislike and traditional aversion doesn't equate intolerance or violence.
On the race aspect, good try dodging a point. He said he wouldn't like his children to date black women. But he also has both ethnic friends and parents with which he has good relations with. How is he racist and have good relations with them? I guess he isn't that intolerant.
Trying to compare with sexism is stupid because sexual and racial discrimination are different things, as well as "mother" being a really poor analogy for friend AND father-in-law whom he doesn't discriminate. A mother is a mother, but the sexist may still envision her as inferior and even use her position as an argument, whereas he doesn't hate his friend and father-in-law, showing in their relation and mutual support.
Your final argument goes both ways. He could be lying about his support for democracy or he could be lying about his support for dictatorship. He could also be just another nostalgic dude who envision the military regime as an ideal of order and peace.
Threats of violence to equate to threats of violence, and that rhetoric literally is intolerance. The fact that he could change from those beliefs are irrelevant, because there's suicide bombers who became religious moderates.
How do you think racism works? You can be racist and know black people that you're friends with. In the Louis Theroux documentary, we saw Tom Metzger, a self-proclaimed Neo-Nazi who wants constantly talks about how racist he is, loves Mexico and is on good terms with an immigrant worker. Is he no longer racist?
He can still consider his friend and father-in-law as inferior, sure. Racism doesn't mean you hate other races.
Not really, because he'd have no reason to lie and pretend to support dictatorship. He does, however, have reason to lie for another. If someone is caught on tape saying "I murdered someone" and tell the police they didn't murder them, either one could be a lie, but we can guess which one is true by motive.
Well, he is openly homophobic and racist, the dude's personally said he'd rather his kids die that be gay, and that he raised them too well to date black women. He also mentioned that he doesn't support democracy and wants a dictatorship, so maybe, just maybe, he's far, far worse than Trump.
Well at least we still got the freedom to call Muhammad a child molester! (Unlike in Austria apparently)
Proactive child enthusiast.
Obviously an early LGBT fighter. Why, he was known at his time as the ultimate non-binary, as he changed his gender to Prophet.
Why, he was so great, his future buddies even lightened some neonazi books in Alexandria to rid us of their racist and misogynistic comments.
Lol. Just Lol.
Well slow news day, so here's something on California burning to the ground.
I bet even Hotel California burned to the ground. No more Eagles for this week i guess.
I find it funny that this same dude was saying Trump and other people would be arrested or something.
For Ireland! (Though Steve's already aware of it)
Repeating my comments.
Had an argument with my girlfriend about this. I thought it was the jury being retarded, but either this didn't sway anyone, in which case the solicitor is awful but there's no reason to care, or it did, in which case I blame the jury, but I acknowledge the solicitor's duty to do whatever they can to get their client off,
I'd have called that "a bunch of hobos" . An army would mean weapons, logistic, and more generally a threat. I simply see extra work for ICE and the mexican equivalent (especially since they closed the Tijuana border). They're more or less under perfusion with GNO giving them food and stuff and mexican anti riot forces are monitoring them.
I heard the fire was "fully contained" so I guess it's good news for your family? Still , they might have evacuated the area for a while no?
You can thank San Francisco for that fun homeless fact. That's a good point about the cost of living, although the handful of homeless people I've met don't actually seem like they're making steps to improve their conditions. If you're going to live on the street, might as well do it in a warm environment (and blue state!).
me - what'cha sayin, the world's going to shit, I don't see wha-
abcnews - "Turkish officials say President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has urged the presidents of Russia and Ukraine to overcome their dispute through diplomatic channels."
Obviously, Khanate of Crimea is rightful ottoman clay.
Yeah, let's pretend that Cilicia campaign didn't happen