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Thunderdome 18: Petros vs Bezro

8 days ago
With the usual creaking and rattling that signified to all that a can of WD-40 was just not in the budget, gates slid open on opposite sides of the arena, and the two contestants walked out, feet shuffling across the sand. They each stopped a short distance apart to appraise their opponent. You could hear a pin drop in the audience. Everyone in the stands saw a large, angry black man versus a small, smug Asian child. "Is this even legal?" a worried voice wanted to know. "Calm down you fragie baby, kids get killed in here all the time." "Hey, I hear it was Bezro who demanded this, he must have a trick up his sleeve! So mysterious and inscrutable they are!" sighed some random weeb. As if on cue, the two contestants raised their fists and began to circle each other. Who would win?

Thunderdome 18: Petros vs Bezro

8 days ago
Story A: The Contents of the Gold Plates I Found Buried in My Backyard Translated from Unreadable Hieroglyphs Jacob Snow, a rotund old man, paced with feverish energy at the front of the meeting hall. Sweat dripped from his face and droplets hung from the tip of his nose. As he preached, his melodious voice carried powerfully to the back of the room. "Oh, listen to me children and be made wise! Glory to God! "I remember when I was in my days of sin. It was back before the days of the Tribulation and the beginning of our Thousand Year Reign. I used to live down in the southern parts of a far away state called Arkansas. "It was as in the days of Noah. There was drinkin', there was laughin', there was carrying on of all sorts, right up until the day our mass of filthy rags piled up to the doorstep of Heaven's temple. That was when the Lord began to pour out the wrath of the Heavens. "Now, it may be hard for some of you youngun's to believe, but my generation was one of untold wickedness, greater than any who came before. Men married men. Sometimes they would dress up as women. Sometimes, they would take drugs to try and be women. Lemme tell you though, God's judgement always begins with the sins of the church, not with the sins of the secular world. And there was no shortage of ecclesiastical shortcomings "All those Catholic heretics were diddling kids! It was disgraceful! And Benny Hinn and his ilk were charlatans wearing the skins of sheep. Not to mention the untold amounts of youth pastors who were sexual predators and head pastors who still from their flocks "So, after all that time of disgusting sin, God finally poured out his wrath. A huge asteroid fell from the heavens. The secular world believed it to be random chance. Just an accident of the cosmos. Of course, you should remember in the book of Revelation how the angel hurled the star whose name was Bitterness into the sea. "And as it was written, so it was. The asteroid smashed into the Gulf of Mexico. The woes that followed were like nothing the world had ever seen before. Waves towered half a mile into the air, people close to the impact were burned alive, then the winds came. "I remember standing on my porch and gazing out into the starry sky when a wind like the blast of a mighty shofar began to sound. It ripped rocks and trees from their roots. It sundered mountains and truly put the chill of death into the souls of sinners everywhere." A man stood up in the back of the congregation. "Tell 'em about your wife Jacob. Tell 'em about your vision." Jacob Snow smiled, wiping his face with his sleeve. "Thank you brother Henry. I was just getting to that." He rolled his shoulders forward and got back into his preaching cadence. "As most of you know, before the great tribulation, I was married to a Jezebel who disguised herself as an angel of light. "You see, as the asteroid came down, I was given a vision by God himself. I saw the heavens opened and the rivers of time laid bare. In them, I could see this underground congregation, our holy family. "When I told my lovely wife, who's name will not be spoken in this assembly, she refused to believe me. She snatched the keys to our car and drove off in the direction of safety, leaving me to be buffeted by the ferocious winds. "Luckily, God, in his infinite graciousness, saw fit to spare me. More than that, time and time again, I have been his vessel. My words are not my own, but the unwavering testimony of God himself!" He stopped, breathed deeply, and collected himself before addressing himself to the congregation once again. "Now, I am aware that most of you have heard this story time after time after time, so what I am about to say is mostly for the children. If any of you have questions before the ritual, please address them to me now." A child in the front row raised his hand. Jacob smiled at him. "Speak child, what is it you're wondering about." "How'd you get all the way to Arizona without your car?" Jacob beamed in response. "I'm glad you asked that, child. It was just like in the book of Acts when Philip baptized the Ethiopian eunuch. I was transported by the power of the Holy Spirit." At the encouragement of an interesting answer given to a question, several hands went up at once. Jacob pointed out at a hand. "I was wondering why got chose you to be our new prophet?" The little boy's mother flicked his ear. "Fear not Sister Anita. The question was not an impertinence. The Lord chose me, because I alone in the nation was sober of mind. I was clear of the effects of alcohol, of caffeine, of pornography and television. Purity is what the lord seeks above all. Those with clean hands and a pure heart will be those to ascend his mountain, glory to God!" One of the men in the back held up his hand and pointed at his wrist. Jacob nodded. "I've been notified that our allotted time is growing short, so let's begin the ritual." With a well practiced fluidity, everyone in the congregation took a bottle from under their seat and swigged it down. "Remember," Jacob said. On the day of judgement, this ritual will begin the great transformation." Jacob paused for a moment, scanning the crowd and smiling. He held up his hand, silencing them. "Now, it bears being mentioned that the heater in the greenhouse is on the fritz. Sister Patricia has put a sign-up sheet in the foyer so that any men with mechanical aptitude can participate in the work day. Now, remember congregation, the Lord has given us this subterranean bunker into our stewardship and expects a return on his investment." He smiled and jade a slight bow, but as he began to turn and walk away, he was compelled to spin around to face the crowd another time. "Ah, I almost forgot. Brother Henry!" The man from earlier looked up at Jacob, anticipation written across his face. Jacob looked at him with an odd sort of half-smile. "The Lord has chosen your wife Rachel to grace my bed tonight. Please have her ready to go tonight." Brother Henry smiled, but the woman at his side blanched and looked down at her shoes. Jacob turned and walked off the stage to the left, entering what looked like some kind of apartment just off the wing of the stage. He sat down on a very old leather recliner, reached down and picked up a bottle of whiskey from a milk crate beside the seat. Taking a generous swig from the bottle, he picked a remote up from the arm of the chair and clicked on the TV. For a split second, his eyes were drawn by the set of keys lying on an end table. He sighed and refocused his eyes to the animated ponies on the screen.

Thunderdome 18: Petros vs Bezro

8 days ago
Story B: ALIEN DISASTER I sit in my basement alone, watching in shock as the shadow people slip in and out of people’s houses. Soon after, loud screams follow. I knew it would happen sooner or later. It’s the alien apocalypse. That’s why I’m sitting in my basement, watching the town and neighborhoods from hacked camera footage and cameras I personally set on top of buildings. Suddenly, I see a person walking down the street a hobo. I watch as they creep up and get a hold of him. They swarm him, then rip him apart piece by piece. All I see is a blur, some red, and then he’s gone, reduced to nothing. He didn’t even have time to scream before those green little wrinkly freaks got him. I look behind me and grab a water bottle, taking a big sip before putting it on my desk to the right of my monitor. I watch as the crystal water sloshes around, looking mesmerizing. Shaking my head, I look back at the monitors and see a big ship lurking around. It looks just like the movies, a massive dome atop a spinning metal disc. It patrols the big city, dropping the aliens down. That must be their mothership. Weird that I just noticed it; it would be pretty hard to miss. Suddenly, it changes course, going straight up extremely quickly and leaving my field of vision. My girlfriend puts a hand on my shoulder and looks in shock at the scene on the screens. “Wow, all those people, are they…” “Yep, dead,” I say with finality, picking up my drink from the right of my monitor. Limited edition Mtn. Dew Voodoo. Seems this edition tastes like strawberries, almost like a pink Starburst. I set it back down and continue watching the scene before me. The furry pink birds keep running around, terrorizing the entire city, ripping people apart in the streets at random. I watch as a man gets his arm bitten in a vise-like grip. His arm bends, crushing it, and the bird throws it up like a fish to a seal at SeaWorld. Then another one comes in, bites at his neck, and shakes him around, slinging him everywhere before digging into his guts like spaghetti. The whole scene is lit up in the bright sunlight. I watch as they suddenly begin to congregate in the middle of a neighborhood, all in a row like little army men. Wait, that’s my neighborhood! They begin marching towards my house, then break formation and start running. Well, I’m done now. Sad, I have to die alone. After a few minutes, they bang on the door and quickly break through it, ripping me apart. I feel some sort of drug being pumped through my system. I can see and feel them brutalize me, every last detail. They start at my feet, snatching my toes off and gobbling them up. I try to scream, but one digs into my throat, ripping it out and throwing it against the wall, where it’s caught by another one jumping up. I cry silent tears at the pain as they rip my stomach open and eat my insides, flinging them around like messy toddlers with a cake. Finally, one pecks through my forehead, and my vision goes blank.

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8 days ago
The prompt: A disaster as viewed by an unreliable narrator. Make sure to give vent to your FULL THOUGHTS as you vote, and God's wisdom be with you all as you make this tough decision.

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8 days ago

Oh boy.  I'm going to just vote on this one without reading the entries. (As is tradition).  

A

If I actually get some energy later, I might read and comment, but I am certain my vote will not change.

EDIT: I have however read the titles, and the title from STORY A is much more interesting than the one from STORY B.  STORY A still wins for me.

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8 days ago

Vote for: Story A

Story A had a couple weird word choices towards the beginning, and the obvious contradictions in the story and the ritual, even before the final reveal paragraph feel very cult-like and off.This adds nicely to the characterization of Snow and the cult as a body.  There were a couple of places where there were some jarring details, but nothing so severe as to break me out of the story.

Story B felt like it was rushed and written just a couple hours before the cut off.  Characterization is fairly week and it is not clear if the protag is hallucinating, or if the author really did just forget about the girlfriend character from one sentence to the next.  The descriptions of the aliens is unclear and seems to waffle from bird-like to standard green martian like from sentence to sentence.  This could have been a cool "last surivivor" kind of idea, but the execution was just not there.

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8 days ago

For me, Story A takes it.

Story A: Solid and complete. i think the details were perfect enough to establish the character and the ending pulls it all together in regards to the prompt. Didn't see too many grammatical errors. All in all, it did it's job and was def more developed than Story B.

Story B: I'm not sure where to start. "I sit in my basement alone" - what about the girlfriend? "shadow people slip in and out of house" - aren't they birds? "person walking down the street" - during an apocalypse someone is calming walking down the street? "green little wrinkly freaks" - again, aren't they pink birds? Are there other types? "take a sip and but it down to the right of my monitor" - this was water at this time. "mtn dew voodoo" - its changed.

Look I get it, unreliable narrator means they can't really be trusted, however this more comes across as you've forgotten what you were writing throughout the story. There is no explanation, there is no "grand reveal", there really is no sort of literary device to show they are unreliable besides changing minor details. Now if this was phrased as the MC telling this story and another person questioning it or another conversation happens where the MC's GF talks to someone saying how they were both there and their details don't add up - these can show the reader that the MC is unreliable. 

I think this is where A beats the hell out of B. A establishes this "Holy Prophet" and is revealed to be a MLP, lying, drinking, false prophet. B is just a guy telling a story where the entire scenario changes every few lines and then he dies.

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8 days ago

:(

Story B.

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8 days ago

Story A, this must be written by Petros, because I can recognize this humor and writing style from miles. I like it and find the story more and more humorous the more I reread it. The dialogue is the highlight of the story, the way that this decrepit old man speaks, is just how so many of these televangelists preach. Outstanding. 

I wouldn't be surprised if this fella is actually our resident ''philosopher'' brony. 

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7 days ago

Flutter wishes he was this eloquent.

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8 days ago

Ugh. Story A easily wins the vote. There were a couple of mistakes (got instead of God) but actual effort was put into this.

I'm sure whoever wrote B just watched hentai till a couple hours before the deadline, then wrote down the bare minimum of what they noticed when they weren't frantically shaking it like a baby you never wanted.

 

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8 days ago
I vote for story A. The protagonist has significantly more depth and character than the one in story B. The story was also longer, more engaging and more humourous.

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8 days ago

Story A. Starting to feel bad for story b, the only vote he gets is Suranna (who just doesn't wanna vote for petros)

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8 days ago

My vote is for Story A. The story fulfills the prompt of having an unreliable narrator while still being engaging, funny and easy to follow.

Story B has the issue of successfully having an unreliable narrator, but the narrative itself has too many changing elements that make it difficult to follow. The format also makes it look like a word dump.

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8 days ago
Beyond the obvious vote for Story A, what part of story B attempted to respond to the prompt? Was there even an attempt to make the narrator unreliable? Was it all a dream?

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8 days ago
This is just me taking a wild guess, but I think the author of story B misunderstood the prompt and took it literally; as in the narrator of story B is a guy/gal I wouldn't rely on during an alien invasion.

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7 days ago

I hadn't thought of that.  That could almost be a redeeming way to read it.  "This guy lies in his internal monologue!  I wouldn't trust him with breathing."

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7 days ago
"I wouldn't trust him with breathing" lmao. I might use this irl.

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7 days ago
I didn't even get that much out of it. What makes you think he lies in his internal monologue? It just seemed like a retelling of what he's seeing, period.

I could almost interpret it as, "This narrator is a sneaky guy who hacks into cameras and watches the world burn around him without doing anything, therefore he's not a good guy, therefore he's unreliable, and that's what makes him an unreliable narrator;" but that's too much of a strech for me. The author of Story B may have just read the prompt as, "write a few words about narrating something."

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7 days ago
There are multiple points where things are described and then changed to something else a couple of lines later. The aliens themselves, what the narrator is drinking, the presence of the girlfriend.

Maybe it's not an unreliable narrator, maybe the story just takes place at a nexus that multiple alternate realities are cycling through.

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7 days ago
Ah, I see. I think when I read it first, I assumed that the little green freaks and the pink furry birds were BOTH attacking the neighbourhood.

The drink changing flew over my head though; I didn't even notice that.

Man, now I want an explanation for what's going on in the narrator's mind even more.

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7 days ago
Yeah, I thought there were multiple aliens. Also multiple drinks. Reading very closely I do see the reference to a girl friend nearby, then dying alone. I guess that's the one bit that might be interpreted to be "unreliable"

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7 days ago
The unnecessary focus on the bottle of water leads to it being set on his right side, then the Mt. Dew being in the same spot a moment later.

But this would probably come across more clearly in a better story.

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7 days ago

Since he isn't speaking to another character, I assumed the narration to be his internal monologue and the details of what he literally sees in front of him change from sentence to sentence., which I would translate as the narrator lying to himself (unreliable) as that seems a more reasonable read than assuming that all of those details were actually changing moment to moment in the world around the narrator.  I suppose that is possible, but then the narrator is truthful and not being unreliable, which goes against the prompt.

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7 days ago

I hardly feel like I need to throw in my vote for "A," but here we are.  The prose style was much more interesting, and it held together as a story much better.  Easy choice.

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19 hours ago
Commended by Mizal on 12/21/2024 12:52:00 AM

Looks like it has been over a week and the results are not announced. Since it's not for the lack of a clear winner, and I know better than to question a mod's memory, I can only assume everyone's waiting for a textwall review.

Here you go. I hope the formatting is alright since I've written and published on my phone (you can thank the train delays for this review).

Story A

 

  • I like the title. It captures my interest and reveals some background information in a few words without giving too much away
  • Lots of good description at the start. It characterizes the protagonist, which is all the more important seeing as he's the unreliable narrator here
  • Negative descriptors juxtapose his 'melodious' voice - a nice touch which foreshadows his talent for misleading a crowd
  • Use of dialogue to tell the story is a great way to incorporate the prompt
  • Were this any other story, I'll make a note about infodumping, but in this case, it's relevant to the plot and prompt. The worldbuilding is quite interesting too
  • If nothing else, the mention of 'Arkansas' immediately gives the author away
  • Using slang was a good way to show character
  • I enjoyed the use of Biblical influences - it reminds me of the saying that the best lies are half true
  • There were some parts which highlighted problems/ controversies with our current world, which is a sign of any well-written dystopia story: the author tells a cautionary tale that hits a little too close to home
  • At some point, the full stops from sentences at the end of paragraphs disappeared. Perhaps there's not just an unreliable narrator, but an unreliable author as well
  • Nevermind, the full stops returned!
  • I would have liked a comma in the sentence, 'Tell 'em about your wife Jacob.' Otherwise, it seems like his wife is named Jacob, which makes him/ her one of the people practicing what he previously proclaimed as wickedness
  • Though you'll probably have to be some kind of narcissist to marry someone with your own first name
  • There's a mixup of who's and whose, but I'll just chalk that up to the narrator being grammatically unreliable too
  • I notice the writing style tends to be descriptive and over-the-top, often with extreme verbs, dramatization, and hyperbole. It fits the protagonist well (and is often the same language used when perpetuating propaganda)
  • Slight punctuation error: full stop used instead of question mark
  • Haha, the classic 'use an unexplained act of God' as a way to explain everything. That's how most of the Roman deities were created iirc - as explanations for questions that science was not developed enough to answer
  • I never knew it was a sin to drink coffee :(
  • Makes sense that the kids are the ones asking questions out of curiosity while the adults are more blindly obedient 
  • ...Their ritual is drinking? Right after Jacob condemned alcohol?
  • Continuity error nitpick: there was a sentence where he silenced the crowd, but no mention that they were ever making any noise to begin with 
  • How do you jade a slight bow?
  • Oh, I like how the end shows that he's partaking in the same sinful acts he condemned during his speech
  • The keys were a nice touch. It really drives home how the whole story was, in fact, a lie. Unreliable narrator at its finest 
  • Then there was the added joke aimed at a certain disgraced member at the end, which adds a whole new layer to the theme: often, the people who are least qualified to speak on a subject matter tend to have the loudest voices
  • A very strong entry 

 

Story B

 

  • The title is somewhat generic, but it does tell the reader what the story is about. I'll refrain from judging a book by its cover (or rather, its title)
  • Right away, it throws the reader in media res, but in a very confusing fashion. The protagonist sits in his basement watching shadow people slip and out of people's houses. Who are the shadow people? But more importantly, why can the protagonist see other people's houses from their basement? He sounds like a creep ngl
  • Okay, at least some explanation is offered: he's watching for signs of an alien invasion. I suppose the shadow people are the aliens
  • Lack of punctuation in the sentence: 'Suddenly, I see a person walking down the street a hobo'
  • While I can use context clues to understand that 'they' refer to the shadow people in the second paragraph, usually it modifies the last referred to object of a sentence. Still, I suppose this unreliable narrator has better things to worry about than being grammatically correct
  • On that note, please use line breaks between paragraphs, it'll make the story more readable
  • 'Green wrinkly little freaks' - this is a continuity error, as first they were just shadow people, and suddenly now the narrator can see them?
  • Oh, I can kind of see how the author interpreted the prompt. It's just like the last contest where illusions were misinterpreted as hallucinations. Here, the narrator is hallucinating hence new details are constantly introduced that contradict the previous ones 
  • Wait, what girlfriend? Though if I have to hazard a guess, she's another one of his hallucinations
  • Yep, the excessive focus on the drink, which seemed out of place, was there to foreshadow the later moment where the narrator changes what he's drinking
  • Everything that was mentioned before is flipped on its head, from the description of the aliens to the existence of the girlfriend 
  • Sidenote: how can you see your throat being ripped off and thrown against a wall? At that point, wouldn't you be dead?
  • The metaphors add to the language used, but they can be distancing as they reduce the severity of the scene
  • But if I'm being honest, this 'the narrator is senile/ has memory problems' is a good concept with a somewhat clumsy execution. The plot becomes a lolrandom, nonsensical thread of semi-connected events. Perhaps having a slow descent to insanity with actual stakes would help
  • Also, there's no way to distinguish between what is and isn't real, leaving readers unconnected with the events of the story. Namely, we have no reason to care
  • One way to improve would be to give the reader clues as to when a hallucination happens, e.g. in 'A Beautiful Mind', the protagonist often hallucinates moments with one other person, whereas the audience knows that each time he's with two or more people, that memory is real
  • Another method could be to have a different character be the one to distinguish facts from fiction, so the reader has an anchor to the real events of the story (which was used in the previous Thunderdome entries)
  • Either way, I ended this story more confused than the previous one, so perhaps one might say that the narrator in this one was more unreliable. I'm not sure that's a good thing, though

 

Overall, I cast my vote for Story A

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13 hours ago

>...Their ritual is drinking? Right after Jacob condemned alcohol?

I believe the ritual drinking was a reference to a practice run for ritual mass suicide, a la the drinking of the Kool-Aid from the Jonestown Massacre, where a cult of about 900 people committed suicide by drinking poisoned Kool-Aid under the order of their cult leader, if you're not familiar with that historical event. I don't believe Petros was referring to alcohol when he said drinking.

"On the day of judgement" would be referring to the day they've all met God after death to submit to his judgment after committing mass suicide, and "the great transformation" would be referring to their going from their current lowly state to some sort of divine state closer to God aka their death.

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11 hours ago
Hey, I'm trying to take a nap here and you're typing too loud!

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11 hours ago

Click clack

Thunderdome 18: Petros vs Bezro

8 days ago
Voting for story A.

As someone who buys into religion quite a bit, story A is quite horrifying. People who take advantage of faith and pervert it to suit their selfish needs are the worst, and the pastor here definitely filled that role so well that I felt more and more disgusted by him with every word he spoke. The reveal of the keys on the table was the cherry on top. It had me fuming at this absolutely repulsive waste of a human being.

To put it differently, story A was written excellently!

Story B was... weird. I don't really know how else to put it. The graphic, gory descriptions are written well enough I suppose, but it lacked the kind of reveal that story A had. So the story was basically a flex of the author's ability to write gory stuff. Also, if you remove the line about the imaginary girlfriend chiming in with her opinion on the massacre, then I don't really see how story B's narrator is particularly unreliable.

So yeah, story A for me.

Thunderdome 18: Petros vs Bezro

10 hours ago
High noon. The child blinked up at Petros in innocent confusion, like a small, slant eyed puppy, possibly with undiagnosed brain problems. Petros walked slowly up, studied it a moment, then punched it in the face as hard as he could. Then, something unexpected happened! "Raaaarrrgh!" shouted Bezro, hulking out to three times his size, veins bulging, hair sprouting in unseemly places. "Don't fuck with me, man, I look like I'm 40! I can buy a beer with my Doritos in nine out of ten gas stations!" "Yeah? Well. Not. In. Mine," Petros said in his best Clint Eastwood growl, and then punched him in the face again. Bezro crumpled, peed himself, and died. Petros dusted his clothes off, and climbed into a waiting limo to be taken to his wedding. Most of the crowd remembered they needed to be somewhere else before the police arrived for questioning, and Mizal slept through the whole thing. Story A won! And I know this is a big shock, but Petros wrote it, good job! (I know he would have preferred a little more challenging a fight, but I got some good chuckles out of his story here and I'm glad it was written, pretty solid story in it's own right and I think it was one of the funnier ones we've had show up in the 'dome.) Anyway, Petros, post here for a commendation. Bezro...thank you for your participation, but I'm not commending that, lol. I know you did mention being unfamiliar with the unreliable narrator trope, but I also know you looked it up. Given the length, the main issue seemed to be time management. Better luck next time anyhow. And thanks to all readers and voters for your participation as always. I owe a few of you some comms going back a few duels now, maybe you'll get them for Christmas.

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3 hours ago
Commended by Mizal on 12/21/2024 9:50:44 AM
Whoop whoop. This was fun. I have also never written unreliable narrator, and I think I definitely experimented a little too much also making it third person. I love that one Moby Dick chapter where the guy is preaching about Jonah, and I hate cults and non monogamous sexual relationships, so this is the large joke that resulted