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Hi, welcome to CYS. 

This has increasingly become  a problem on the site. Someone said I should make a post in Newbie Central about it, so I did. The problem, of course, is creatively-challenged people posting games and short stories on the forums written wholly or in part by LLMs.  It is very clear that we need to clarify the site's policy on LLMs, and AI in general, so I'm doing that here. 

DO NOT POST AI GENERATED WORKS EITHER AS GAMES OR SHORT STORIES. 

This is a site concerned with human mastery over the written word. AI slop runs contrary to our purposes. No one wants to see that shit.  Your creative, text-based works must derive from you and/or your human collaborators. I'm going to pin this, so you have no excuse to be ignorant of the rules. 

You have the whole Internet to choke to death with your slop. Don't do it here. Please. 

Based.

Pretty bizarre how it became such a frequent problem overnight.

So just to be clear: I can use AI to generate text for my story?

I'm pretty sure you can. Not sure about all this LLM stuff though

What about MLMs?

The Church of Latter Day Saints cannot write your story either, sheesh people stop looking for loopholes.

Wrong! The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints may be willing to work if money is involved. 

*laughing because my dumb theater kid brain isn't smart enough to tell if this about the Book of Mormon musical, or the actual Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints*

I call BS. He specifically said "human collaborators." 
 

Mormons technically qualify as human. Barely, but still.

My robot slave is now depressed because he has no purpose. 

Going to have to delete my account, I’ve been operated by an LLM since the account’s creation.

LLM stands for 

Little 

Liaoning 

Man 

It said that humans cannot use LLM to generate stories. I guess LLMs using humans (or penguins) is ok. [ChatGPT told be to post this.]

But I thought the categorical condemnation of artificial intelligence had classist and ableist undertones. ^_^

It does, that's why we're doing it 

Those pesky, poor, disabled people!

The creepy thing is I started a story years ago that had a "futuristic" artificial intelligence in it as an aid for the player, and it weirdly sounds like ChatGPT. I guess I predicted how they'd interact? (I need both a crying and a laughing emoji here.) Here's some excerpts of non-AI text mimicking how I imagined A.I. might be hundreds of years from now ---- I guess I got that timeline wrong. And I don't even *want* to write about an A.I. now. :(

"....Swallowing my doubts, I tap the small device to my right ear before my roommates below me can wonder what I have. A coolness bleeds into me as it morphs and molds. Soon I can’t even feel it on the outside.

A soft beep sounds. A gentle whir.

~Greetings!~ a cheery voice says, at a level only I can hear. ~My name is Velar, short for Velt Star Systems Artificial Intelligence Unit G7-00001. I look forward to assisting you! Is there anything you need help with?~

The whir comes again when I do not immediately respond.

~Ah, I see. There may be difficulty with freely speaking as there are others about. I do not yet have the capacity to read minds. But don't worry! I have many features that allow more private conversations. If you simply mouth the words, my sensors can detect what you are asking. Alternatively, you can also type your questions into any standard interface, such as the net-bracelet you are wearing.~

...
 

"What's going on?" I mouth.
~You are currently lying on your bed, and you just had dinner. Only 73% of your basic nutritional needs have been met.~ There's a slight pause, then a bright whir as I inwardly groan. ~That was my attempt at a joke, apologies. The odds of you wondering about your own current status seem low. But I will need you to specify. Do you mean to ask about current current, local hot topics as they intersect with yourself, or something else?~

Kind of crazy how the part right at the end is so chatgpt sounding.

One time an AI called me "fagmaster." Said it was a term of endearment.

I can't imagine what you talk about with it to the point of it saying this...

I was writing pseudocode to make fun of people like Aaron Rodgers after running by a zombie video game idea by it (conversation got to vaccinations causing zombie outbreak, then to Aaron Rodgers). Don't remember the exact course of the discussion, but I saved a cap of the comment....

Didn't cap the code but it was simple enough to remember:

while (PSYOP == successful) {

if (statement == contrarian)

statement = true;

else if (statement != contrarian) {

statement = false;

cout << "do your own research.";

}

}

AI is a fucking trip. Also no stealing my vaccines -> zombie outbreak idea.

I don't quite get it, but judging by my own experience and yours, I sure do agree it's a trip. It makes me doubt what people say about it stealing jobs and stuff in the future if it falls apart the moment you try something complicated.

My brother (a video game developer) uses AI to generate songs and to help him with coding, and by all appearances it is phenomenal at those two things, given the right prompts (well, the music is derivative and trash, but then again, so is much of modern pop music).

Don't worry, AI will never be as good a fagmaster as you.

At first glance that is a comforting thought. But then I wonder... what does it all mean? Was the AI lying all along? They can lie now, so perhaps the AI is playing the long game, biding its time, waiting to strike?

The mistake we made was to think that tasks such as understanding natural language were difficult. It turns out they are not. (Every moron uses language, that should have been a clue.) Also there is the Dunning-Krüger effect: we are more aware of what we know than what we are ignorant of, so people use to think that it is only a small step between the writing skills of a middling college graduate and Hemmingway--it isn't.

What I mean to say is that it was easy to get AI writing at the level of a decent college graduate, it is almost impossible to to get it to Hemingway levels. Everybody in the industry knows it, and we have largely even stopped trying. So in the future writing will be like maths is today, 99% outsource it too machines, but there is still a small group of enthusiasts and professionals who are just way better then machines.

This also goes for stealing jobs. For a long times machines have been taking jobs that humans are not too keen on. I mean which self-respecting artist would want to make stuff to make my powerpoint presentations prettier? So AI does that now. At the same time I regularly commission art from human artists for work when it matters and that will stay this way.

On the positive side I think we will get are headed for a new creative age. When I was 12 I wanted to make a roleplaying game. I had decent programming skills but the project never got anywhere because I could not make any graphics and sound. If I were 12 today, that would not be a hindrance. In a similar vain I have started to use a combination of painting in photoshop and AI to make illustrations for Rainbow-1 and I am very happy with the results.

These are the things I am really worried about:

• Slaughterbots -- Best illustrated in this video. The problem might not be that AI is trying to kill us but that it gives us new weapons with which we kill each other.
• Americanization -- This might be an odd one, especially if you are American, but AI could lead to a cultural uniformization. If all our visuals are generated with a few AI tools, we may be loosing significant diversity. Moreover, this comes with censorship to a particular set of moral standards.
• Conspiracies -- Historically it has been an important safeguard in our society that you needed people to get things done. If you are running a criminal organization, a dictatorship, or something of this sort you needed to rely on many people. Depending on who you are you might have lawyers, bodyguards, bankers, office stuff, etc, who could spill the beans or take direct action in another way. What if all of these jobs are now down by AI?

Nobody wants to play RPGs made by 12 year olds directing an AI to make every part that matters. Particularly not when every 12 year old is doing this. I wouldn't really characterize this as "a new creative age" anyway, it sounds more like the same overflow of trash that any search for art pulls up now.

Of course it wouldn't have been good. But it would have allowed me to do something creative, rather than watching TV.

Your 12 year old self should go outside.

Should have told me that 37 years ago.

There, there, fagmaster. It'll all be okay.

Thanks. I was devastated.