So, I was wondering... What are some of the most fucked up games on the site? I've seen loads of threads where people talk about the best games overall, the best scripted games, the saddest games, the most romantic games, but with Slasher talking about the super happy rape game he's working on I wondered, what does CYS have to offer in the realm of fucked up shit?
So far the most fucked up game I've read has got to be Endmaster's Love SICK, but does that game have any rivals when it comes to fucked-upittiness?
... Yeah, I thought you were joking until my sister bunny pooped on my head... That was random.
insanebuvain's stories might qualify.
She really should write more stories.
Oh yeah, I remember that one! You know you're in for a treat when the disclaimer reads "Contains dead children and incest."
Indeed ... and as I said, under the time constraints, it was very well written.
It's just hard for me to get into horror (for its fcked-up-ness, not its humorous side) without a well thought out story. (Heh. Reminds me, a long time ago, 'horror game' meant 'uglier than usual monster in a side-scroller') Creepy is good, shocking is good, disturbed is good, it just needs to have a sense of purpose for me. If I wanted to hear about purely senseless violence or bloodshed, I could just start watching the news again or re-read through some history books.
Definitely would've been cliche. The ending she went with was much better.
The ending she went with was purely for shock value. I'd rather see the girl pitied by the mother and the general public, or hailed as a hero, then turn out to have some kind of bizarre killing fetish so that she murders the rest of her family, goes on a serial spree, and has it end with her getting shot down in her prime with a smile on her face or committing suicide in the midst of some kind of karmic revenge hallucination.
Well, when I said I loved endings where 'you become what you despise,' that's basically what I meant.
I didn't really think the ending was shock value though. I mean the whole story is pretty much filled with human suffering so the mom slitting the girl's throat wasn't excessively surprising.
Your ending might work if the story was longer, but I think James' final two choices works better for how short the story is since it does tie things up a bit neater.
IBV's comment seems to suggest it was ... granted, I never asked directly, so maybe I'm wrong.
Really? Because the story has an ending that shows you growing up, moving away, and eventually committing suicide, but in a rather boring sort of "sorry, I tried, couldn't handle life..." sort of way.
Maybe it was, but when stuff is sort of done for shock value it's kind of lost on me since I don't get shocked by much and I just sort of see it as part of the story and in this case it still was consistent with the overall tone.
As for the ending, I was still seeing it as a short story which is why I thought james' suggestion was fine.
With your idea, it just feels like the whole story would need to be a lot longer to lead up to the point you're talking about. Like a few more passages with her going through pre-teen and teenage years and some more choices within those ages. Which of course I guess would lead to even more endings.
Ahh, I remember that.
Wait, who wrote that one? I don't even remember it.
I think there was a story that Fearor wrote or maybe it was frank? That involved raping kids or something. I know that one got deleted by JJJ.
Huh. Leads me to wonder why Despiteous is in the clear, then ... but I can't remember the story you're referring to, so I have no clue how detailed it was.
Might've been because that one got a bit more graphic with the sex scenes and you were playing as the pedo.
As I remember he was raping his daughter and some other kids and then dismembering them (and maybe eating them, can't remember that for sure)
I'm still not exactly sure if it was Fearnor or frank that actually wrote it, but for some reason their names are coming to mind. It wasn't up very long. Even the thread about it got deleted for various reasons.
"I think it was called "Billy the Butcher"" ... "It had something to do with a butcher."
... xD Really now? I never would've guessed.
I meant to say that it had the word 'butcher' in the title. I can't even remember if the guy was an actual butcher or not.
I was kidding.
Oh, okay. On another note, I was looking for pictures of Barry the Chopper, and I found this:
xD That makes me smile for reasons I can't explain.
What do we call him? Barry Sparkles? Chopper Dash?
Some people on the internet have too much time on their hands. On the more disturbing side of that topic, the other day, I saw one of my little cousins playing a game where you have to give Elsa a C-section.
Barry Sparkles sounds good, if only because it doesn't prepare you for the actual character's appearance.
Oh, that's nothing, at least Elsa is of marrying age. "Princess Sophia" also has a pregnancy / C-section game and in her Disney Cartoon show (purely for little, little kids mind you), she's eight years old.
Yes, that's the one. Dunno why I thought it was Frank or Fearnor who wrote it.
Wow, according to the stats I actually did read and rate this one. Completely forgot it though.
Oh yeah, I remember that one! Didn't make a whole lot of sense, but major points for fuck-uppitiness ^_^
It's not consistent with the characters, though. There's no build up at all for that moment and no explanation during or after. (I also honestly disagree on it fitting. Not the story, mind you, but the scene.)
I think his suggestion is fine, too.
I get what you're saying, but I don't envision it that way. *shrug*
Honestly, I didn't find that ending particularly bad. I think my logic was that the mother thought the daughter was fucked up beyond repair and decided to put her out of her misery.
Maybe the mother killed herself after... I dunno
Do you want my official opinion on the matter? Well you're getting it anyway. The mother stops and looks at the situation. The father is dead, and now the poor, helpless child and her mother are left to fend for themselves. Any sort of investigation would immediately assume that the mother killed the father, and the daughter would be left by herself. The mother, sees this, and also sees that her daughter is insane, or at least extremely messed up. She sees it as a kindness she's doing, to spare the poor child any hardships in her future. She has rather nobly decided to take the fall herself, to be the one who has to live the tough life. Obviously you can still interprete the story however you want, this is just the general line I was thinking along when I wrote it.
What, she wouldn't have the balls to do it you mean?
No, I think he means what I meant: There was no build up for the mother doing that. You didn't set the tone or have her show any real emotion over it. It was just "you're a good girl ... aaaand now you're dead."
Besides, an investigation would show the girl's finger prints on the murder weapon. Forensics, they exist because law enforcement is more intelligent that fiction leads us to believe...!
That said, ok. There was logic behind it. It just wasn't laid out. Good to know. Again, it was a very well-written story for the time constraints and you know my criticisms over it. The true ending bothered me less than my first complaint, but over all, you did good.
... But how does that answer the question? I don't think that, just because it's considered a good read and it's by Stephen King, that it has authority on this subject. =\ It's also fiction, so it doesn't prove that people actually function that way, and the circumstances are totally different, so it doesn't really apply anyway. Come to think of it, the lady who played the mom in the movie thought it was so outlandish that they were unable to convince her it wasn't a comedy.
"Messed up" isn't exactly a reason. "Bi-polar," "severe depression," "PTSD," are reasons. "Abused as a child," "raped by a family member," exc, are reasons. What I'm saying is that everything actually does have an explanation. Senseless violence doesn't actually exist, it's just that a lot of reasons are stupid and some are unavailable to the general public.
People do not go from 'loving, but submissive parent' to 'just slit my child's throat' in a snap without a reason and they usually have some kind of progression or outward display of change.
I'm not saying you can't justify a villain by 'he's messed up, ok?' because you totally can, but I will call it lazy writing.
What about some of history's most notorious killers who were just born evil? Ted Bundy didn't have any early childhood trauma that made him snap, nor was he mentally ill in a debilitating capacity. He was just a psychopath and a natural born killer, who stated his motivation for his crimes was the violent pornography he watched as a youth, which doesn't typically make someone kill 30 women.
(This isn't supposed to be in response to the mother killing her daughter, more so to the lazy writing thing.)
People aren't 'born evil,' though. That's fear-mongering and lack of scientific explanation that makes people say shit like that.
... Wait, you don't consider a psychopath mentally ill? Dude, the very definition of "psychopathy" is "mental illness or disorder." >_>' Of course he was mentally ill.
You misunderstand me. Psychopathy is clearly a mental illness, but not in the sense that schizophrenia is, you get what I'm trying to say? Just because somebody is without fear or remorse, they can still think rationally and deliberately, which is why many psychopaths do so well as lawyers or in business, because they are natural leaders and are able to make the hard decisions that most people couldn't. Something that would be extremely more difficult for a schizo to do.
If a psychopath isn't born unable to experience fear or remorse, then what makes them do so? Not every psychopath is exposed to traumatic stimuli as children, so what sets those few apart from the rest?
... Nope, I actually don't get what you're trying to say, because they are both mental illnesses, but I'd argue that psychopathy is worse for treatment. Someone with schizophrenia can think rationally and deliberately and hold down a good job, too. I've seen it happen. People who had daily auditory and visual hallucinations found ways to help themselves deal with it, (a certain college professor comes to mind,) just like psychopaths find ways to make themselves seem normal. I don't think you really understand these disorders. =\
There's a sliding scale of sorts for mental instability; degrees to which a person is ill, and how much of an effect it has on their lives. The reason we know about Ted Bundy being mentally ill is because he couldn't cope in society enough to be "normal," or at the very least, "unnoticable." You've heard about lots of people who are schizophrenics and can't cope. But you rarely hear about the ones leading normal lives because they're leading normal lives. (That, or their parents lock them up in basements like this one guy I knew.)
You want me to explain the pathology of psychopathy? That's getting into things that the scientific community as a whole hasn't been able to adequately explain. :P So, you're asking a little too much. (Also, you said born evil, not born ill. Some disorders manifest or occur as early as infancy, and many do not. The brain, like any part of your body, is capable of becoming 'damaged' at any part of your life via chemicals, poor living, injury, physical sickness, and emotional distress...)
Meh, you're probably right. All I know about those diseases are the people I know who experience them, those same people recounting their experiences, and general behavior, so I don't have as clear of a grasp on the spectrum as you do.
It counts as an explanation for her being damaged, but filicide isn't a logical response to spousal abuse. That said, sure, I'll accept that as build up, but even so ... where's the emotional response to the sudden realization "my husband is dead, my child is a murderer, I need to kill my child and I need to take the fall for this."?
Right, which is a different circumstance.
Mhm. Everyone has a different perspective, each for their own reasons.
Yey! I got it right! ... More or less.
Bah, don't listen to any of these assholes and their critiques and opinions. Just keep writing what you want and how you envision the story.
If I went around listening to peoples' opinions I'd be writing stories that were tolerant to all genders, races, orientations, deviancies and had no swearing what so ever and then where would I be?
I wouldn't be anyone that could look in the mirror and be proud of, that's for sure.
Besides, Briar and I liked your story just the way it was and really that's the most important thing.
Thanks a bunch mate <3
Pfft, you'd struggle way more than that. I mean you'd have to try to please the ten year old that doesn't want any sex scenes in the story and the creepy guy who wants the whole story to be furry porn at the same time.
I don't really like her stories, for the same reason I couldn't get into American Horror Story or the Evil Within. They seem fucked up just for the sake of being fucked up. Some people are into that I guess, but I like there to be some sort of underlying reason for all the madness occurring.
See, I'm that type of person. I obsess over AHS and all that, I guess I like shocking people and getting a reaction. Anyway, I get what you're saying. One of the things I'm writing now takes that into mind.
Can't wait to read it, because beyond that single complaint, I thought it was pretty good
Meant to say this earlier: in spite of my criticisms, I enjoyed both of your stories, so I look forward to your next piece. I have little doubt that it'll be a great game.
Yeah ... which was more or less my complaint with the "true ending", as you might've read already. I also got insanely bored with "The Evil Within." None of it shocked or horrified me, and without logic or interesting twists, that just leaves the gore and ... that wasn't enough to carry the game for me.
I was more disappointed with Evil Within due to the terrible controls.
I honestly forgot about that. At the time, I was too busy commenting that I didn't give a damn what the rest of the game said, my character was already a dead man from the festering human smoothie he was swimming in while having a torn up leg.
He would have had to kill, something like ten thousand people to fill that vat of blood. XD
Right, and you know at least one of those poor bastards had to have aids or ebola or something. (Kind of joking, kind of not.) Besides, killing all of those people takes time, allowing things to fester, and the human body is germ-filled anyway, especially in the intestines and so forth, so that vat would've been swarming with bacteria. He'd go septic, no problem. >_>
Well, it was all a dream anyway.
Thanks. I probably will, I'm just lazy.
If endmaster tells you to write more stories, you write more stories.
First try I got the ending where the father chops off the heads of the mother and son and rapes and kills the daughter. AND EVERYONE LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it.
... Hunchback of Notre Dame came after Lion King.
I dunno... Maleficent got stabbed, Sykes gets hit by a train, Ursula gets impaled on a broken ship, Scar gets eaten by hyenas, Shan Yu gets exploded by fireworks, Clayton accidently hangs himself and Doctor Facilier gets dragged by his evil voodo minions into hell... I watch too many cartoons.
The dog didn't die, but the bear does fall down a waterfall in the end.
Don't forget that King John just stayed in the castle, beating Sir Hiss to death.
Well then.... I guess I watch too many cartoons, as well.
And then it puts the last nail in the coffin of your childhood when you realize you can't remember who any of these characters are... Mwahahaha! ^_^
Read The Lonely Wolf. There's wolf buttsecks in it.
Rather painful? It made my eyes bleed.
How has this not been removed?
It was unpublished recently.
Furry porn... Lovely.
Farmer Joe is going to be fucked up. One of the deaths is getting raped in the ear by a llama until your brain bursts.
Well, I can't wait for whatever the fuck Farmer Joe is going to turn out to be.
Raped by a Llama ... that's pretty pathetic.
... I read your previous comment before you edited it, albeit only briefly before the site reset. You were joking, correct? As in, 'you didn't actually make that suggestion'?
... I was surprised enough that I felt the need to go check.
Yeah, you actually suggested--just out of the blue--that he take one of my characters without permission to either insult or kill and skin him, which would be a dual insult of both plagiarizing a part of my story and making a mockery of an homage I created for one of my best friends because he helped inspire me to write the game in the first place. Well ... fuck you, too, man.
All right, what's wrong?
What did James say to piss you off?
... I fail to see why you're asking me this.
I kind of want to know what he said.
I'm going to ignore the fact that you read the conversation enough to realize I was annoyed, but not enough to know why I was annoyed, for the time being to ask, yet again: why?
Like you said: I'm just a bizarre little fuzzball.
He's a relic of a bygone age... *nostalgic sigh*
Look, I didn't mean it as an insult to your friend or to you as an author. It's fairly common knowledge that if you are going to use someone else's idea, you ask first. Coyotes as spiritual counselors are very common in Native American belief, to the point that many people before you have made reference to them. In The Simpsons, Homer received guidance from a coyote spirit (voice acted by Johnny Cash, of course). Yes, I did reference your character, specifically, and, in hindsight, I see that I shouldn't have.
But, the point was to draw contrast between modern treatment and historical reverence of the coyote, while creating a sense of "hey, it's that guy", not to trash something belonging to and having importance to you.
There's a big difference between an animal spirit / guiding totem and a deity, for one. I've never seen a coyote -god- besides mine. Sure, one tribe (Navajo) believed the coyote, as an animal, had god-like powers ... over rain. Not really comparable. I took some inspiration from past legends, but he's an original character. He's not a 'guiding spirit,' he's a deity. (Even if it was the same, if you're trying to imply I'm 'stealing my ideas from another culture' ... it's my culture, too. I'm part Native American. Not that it honestly seems relevant.)
Two, you just said you specifically referenced my character, which negates your previous points anyway. (I'm still kind of surprised. I realize foxes and coyotes aren't exactly bros in the animal kingdom, but I did not expect that kind of suggestion from you of all people.)
I've had an incredibly shitty week, so this is a particularly bad time to start tap dancing on any of my nerves, but for future reference ... in the event that you're sorry--can't tell if you are or not--saying so earlier probably would've deterred me from getting irritated in the first place.
(Your first reply sounded like "whoops, didn't think you'd notice" rather than apologetic. What you're saying now ... might be? I don't know. But then, it also sounds like "your idea isn't original, so it wasn't really about your character, except that it was because I said it was, but I meant well, so don't be mad, k?")
Is ... that a trick question? I was never pissed off. The word I used was "irritated."
Can't we all just get abong?
Only for some people. I have jokingly said that to several people, so I don't need to be pissed off, and you're totally dropping the context. The "too" was important for discerning how I meant it. I was basically saying "dunno what I did to deserve that, but same to you." If you didn't actually mean anything by it, then my response is equally meaningless, does that make sense?
"not because I felt that I had done anything wrong" ... Ok. So, not apologetic then, got it.
Oh, funsies! ^_^
Throw in a couple more for the nostrils and have them all singing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHNczNvOnGc while they're at it and you got a party! ^_^
... Llama, llama, duck! ^_^
xD ... I hate to admit it, but I like it.
When I was a teenager I watched that video so many times that I still know all the words. >.<
Well LeoScales is supposed to be working on a romance story from the perspective of a serial killer. I suppose that one has the potential to be fucked up.
And I'm definitely having "pockets" of fucked upness in Suzy's Strange Saga so there's that to look forward to I guess.
Really looking forward to Suzy's Strange Saga... Hell I still got to read Ground Zero... Plus I think I was part way through writing a game at some point... What was it called again? Ah well, I'll throw a couple of pages together in a month or two.
Nope. Been taking a break from Endmaster games after I spent more than a month going over every single branch of Eternal.
You're tearing me apart, [Briar_Rose]!
... Oh hai Mark ^_^
Hmm, made a new friend...
This was very dumb and don't write the f word in it!!!!!
Sippy 3/13/2015 4:32:56 PM
THIS IS THE DUMBEST ONE YET YOU BITCHES! WHO MADE THIS??
Sippy 3/13/2015 4:34:32 PM
... I find End tends to get a lot of comments from young kids complaining about all the swearing and sex scenes in his R rated games with the great big "Warning, this game has lots of swearing and sex scenes in it" notices on the front page.
My favourite books as a child were The Adventures of the Wishing Chair and The Faraway Tree. Not quite sure how my current tastes stemmed from that lovely collection.
Troll alert all the way. Comments weren't even two minutes apart lol
READ GROUND FUCKING ZERO! FUCKING! READ! IT!
Put all these stories together and you get this:
Ah, the only joke in the world that doesn't get less funny the more times you hear it... I like the Gilbert Gottfried version ^_^
Hey, End, you know what would be the most awesome thing in the whole world? ... If YOU told The Aristocrats! ^_^
Heh, I think I sort of do that already in story form on a minor level.
But I also think the Aristocrats joke works better when you can actually hear someone tell it though since a lot of it is dependent on the delivery by the comedian even more than the actual offensive content.
Interaction with the audience, funny emphasis on certain things, tone of the voice, possible physical gestures, etc, all help in making the joke funnier.
That is very true. ^_^
Well ... that was bizarre.
Size is irrelevant to food preferences. (Elephants also like them, as do horses, parrots, and turtles.) Though, if you're implying that what you eat is what determines your body weight, that's inaccurate. Amount of food, genetics, and several other factors play very important parts.
For example, I've known more than one person who had a horrible diet, a soda addiction, routinely ate tons of candy, and remained skinny as a rail until his thirties. One person in the same family could do so for a while, until his late teens, and had to start working out routinely then, a third sibling got pretty pudgy regardless of what they did diet and exercise-wise, and the fourth was just ... average. Not a whole lot of sweets, not a whole lot of exercise, normal weight.
How do you keep from getting stabbed in the back?
You can't. It's inevitable.
I guess I'll just have to eat faster then. Too bad it won't let you eat two-handed like in real life. :)
Hmm... It kinda makes me sad thinking that somebody actually spent a lot of time and effort making that game
@Briar_Rose, the most fucked up storygame in my opinion, It would be medicine bunny, just like James said. For me, that storygame is FUBAR (Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition).
Well I guess I can post my own story here.
For a moment I thought Mardox necroed another thread, but since Boerhae's post is on topic and just one month has passed I imagine this is fine.
I guess just to add to the topic, I'll say that so far Xiro's doing pretty good in this department with his Forum game story.
Am I getting a reputation for thread necromancy?
You're getting a reputation for being a foolish buffoon. Nothing more.
In that case I think I'll go kill your mustache.
Your "reputation" isn't a good one.
I mean, thread necromancy?
Still not sure why everyone finds it so annoying
*sigh* When you know that a thread is done for and will be abandoned, you expect for it not to show up in your notifications.
Suddenly, it pops up. That's a pet peeve that everyone has a deep hatred of.
OK, I'm relatively new to forums in general so I've never experienced that.
*shrugs* Maybe that's why you necro threads... You didn't know.
Well, you learned. Been on the forums for a bit, didn't know. I really can't blame you for anything.
I suppose I'll only truly understand when someone else is doing the necroing
I think CreatorX necros a bit, but I only saw it once.
(remember dat thread?)
It was something else CreatorX did, not necroing.
Mmf, I'll wait then