The "inclusive" CoGites, folks. Lol.
"I mean, how could anyone ever write a story where the protagonist is not an exact representation of every single person (and furry) on the planet? You'd have to possess the superpower of Imagination to read it, and us CoGites are clearly deficient in that area."
Well it makes sense if you're playing as a straight male or lesbian character, because women are just featureless sex puppets that should be molded completely to the whims of their keeper.
One of these days i said i hated islam on the Guns of Infinity thread and half a world of triggered liberals descended upon me. Good times.
Unfortunately wasn't banned, but came pretty close to.
After happily chatting history buff things, some crazy dude started saying shit about muslim conquests being good. So i corrected him and pointed out they burned fucking books in Alexandria and did a lot of bad shit all the way to India.
They started antagonizing me for whatever reason and trying to justify that and their lack of progress in regards to the west, to which i said after a while "Well, i just find their ways disgusting". Then the liberal nation attacked and even the game author came out of hiding to fight.
There was a dude so angry that he started to use caps lock and talk about me hating middle eastern people or something. So after tiring of discussing that shit, i backed off.
After this episode and people starting to act all passive-aggressive when i asked about the game, i stopped using those forums and i am glad i did it.
yeah, most muslims get really triggered when people talk about 9/11 because idiots love to say crap about muslims and terrorism and it gets pretty old. I personally don't take offence for most of it as long as you aren't deliberatly trying to causse a fight. however, everyones different and because we get so much bad press about stupid sh*t I can understand why he flipped. You probably did absolutely nothing wrong but say muslims kill everyone. (not literally). Again, don't feel to bad, he was probaly having a bad day.
My problem wasn't the overly belligerent dude spamming caps lock and attacking me. My problem was the backlash that a single, different opinion causes in that place.
I have no problems with religion. I do think, however, that christianity and christian society progressed further after protestantism and reforms, which is not particularly something i observed in Islam. Hell, i have yet to see a single religiously extremist christian nation, or of any other religion, besides islamic.
I don't hate muslims, but i do believe they could do a lot of things better than now. Hate speech against Israel and internal squabble among sunni and shia certainly doesn't make it much better.
Meanwhile, there are a few madlad evangelical cultists around, but not anywhere near fucking bombing and killing innocent people. And without a shred of actual theology to back them up.
Again, just my personal take. Doesn't justify dogpiling or insulting on that level.
The blind path should just have blank page after blank page.
Ford's contest story basically has something similar to that, though it's even funnier. (transnigger, literally a giant jar of piss, etc.)
Find me a giant jar of piss that ISN'T magical.
Who would piss in a jar anyway? It would make sense if it was a bottle during a car travel or similar. But why would someone bring an empty jar during a common trip?
Thus piss jars are magical. Checkmate, atheists.
Can't help but kinda agree with the guy getting attacked here. Anyone heard of Choices stories we choose or something on the AppStore? I recall how many of these games were inspired with a female protagonist in mind, so the occassional guy sides of it felt very tacked on.
I'm sure it has more to do with lack of interest in developing the guy side. Also relevant to a lack of experience on the author.
In their defense, I'm sure it takes extreme skill to write from the perspective of a gender you've never experienced before.
Why on earth would it take much skill to write from a gender you've never experience? Writers are expected to be able to write from perspectives they've never experienced, be it sci-fi marine, Orc warrior or whatever. Compared to that, gender doesn't mean much.
Sure, I guess not, but alot of the experiences there are imagined and unreal, therefore it can compare to anyone's writing on the subject. Men and women are real, so writing from their perspectives should be harder. At least that's my own thoughts on it, as someone who hasn't written much, so take it with a grain of salt.
Yeah, but soldiers, criminals and cops are all real, but we write from their perspective all the time.
I guess there's more pressure, my grandfather for instance was involved in nasa, so when we saw space movies with him, he got upset about the story because he kept thinking "that's not how space physics works." I personally don't like seeing a bunch of guys describe how "beautiful" my appearance is if I'm playing as a guy as well. Idk, i just don't think there's an easy way to do it personally.
I guess it's easy to get things wrong in regards to something real when you're writing with a bias or just uninformed. Otherwise, since they like to say their games allow representation, you'd expect the gender choices to have more impact than a bunch of nouns and some phrases.
I suppose equality is equality, even if it's mediocre.
Why is that dude getting berated for saying he wants to keep a lock on the character when it's the solution for this problem?
Standard practice when you're at CoG.
Saying your story will be gender locked to male is a sure way of getting everyone to dogpile on you.
Locking the protagonist to straight, basically makes you the worst person ever.
He was going to do both. Lol.
I get having the option to make the character gay above everything else via adding in male love interests, like in Mass Effects. That's done in a few places and it's cool, but when you're keeping the same love interest but changing their gender to suit the sexuality of the player, you've fucked up.
Because toxic CoGites need to show off their lib power and berate anyone that doesn't offer them the definitive "representation" in their games.
Ironically, some of the good games they have are genderlocked male (Lords of Aswick, Infinity Sea series), but i guess they didn't suffer backlash because they allow/will allow gay shit. This one genderlocked and locked straight, which is their natural call to crusade and dogpile.
I know the one that gets bashed a lot over there is some super hero series. There's usually a lot of bitching that while it had a LGBT stuff, it didn't portray it in a positive enough light. (I think there was some LGBT infighting or something)
Aside from Fallen Hero i don't remember much of their other superhero games. But they bitch at pretty much everything that deviates from the "norm".
It's not like the poster doesn't have a point. Rarely do the gender choices add anything to the story.
Actually have a larger funny exchange that happened a couple days ago, but need to get around to sorting it and I figured this one was worth posting now.
This might just be the most beautiful conversation I've ever seen. ^_^
Ironically, it's actually pretty offensive to trans people for this guy to say it isn't okay for a trans character to get hysterical. I mean... It's okay for straight, cis characters to be interesting, unique people with their own set of pros, cons and quirks, but not transgender characters! Transgender characters should all be Mary Sues and have no character flaws whatsoever, because having the character be anything short of 100% perfection is transphobic, apparently... (Either that or coins is an incredibly glorious troll, in which case I'm a complete idiot.)
Some of that conversation might be slightly out of order, but given that they kept telling Corgi to move the discussion to two different fucking channels and deleted some of it, I think I got the best bits. (So far)
Hilarious that a kid named Foxboi with a furfag rainbow avatar is getting triggered over incest. Hell it's funny that any of them are given that they're always crying about kink shaming and such. So much for being "progressive." (And as usual MeltingPenguin is leading the outrage brigade)
I can only guess several of these folks had bad touch uncles, which would explain a lot really.
In other news, I guess we managed to have an effect on their channel settings. Lol.
You can still transcribe it for her. Due to her lack of strategic planning, she told them she was under 18 when she first arrived and now thanks to their "baby proofing" Serious Discussion, she can't see what's going on in there. (Or can't get the robot speaker to tell her what's going on in there anyway)
LMAO!!! This little conversation does make me happy.
I just really want to know the context, now. Which historical King was banging his daughter?
I dunno, this was something Corgi was working on and I wasn't around when he started up the conversation which is partially deleted.
I do remember a fairy tale where a king so overcome with grief for the death of his wife he ends up trying to marry his daughter because she grows up looking like her mother. (At the ripe old age of 16. As was the style at the time)
This tale had a bunch of variations, mostly involving her running away and disguising herself as a peasant maid covered in soot/coal (OMG BLACKFACE).
The version I read must have been the original unedited version since she ultimately doesn't get away, her dad discovers her and marries her and they live happily ever after. (Guess she decided fucking her dad every now and then was still better than living practically like a slave in squalor)
No seriously, that's how it ended, there was no "moral lesson" or anything like that. Just a king marrying his daughter because it's fucking great to be the king.
This Yolen (or whoever wrote that page) must have serious issues if they think a story about an incestuous father pregging a whole generation is educative or insightful in the least.
I think I vaguely remember reading this story before... Only in my version the King died and the princess ran away with Griffith.
Another Berserk fan? Praise hiatus.
now back to the eternal boat trip
Donkeyskin has this. The daughter escapes by dressing up as a donkey.
I didn't bother, seemed boring.
Crusader Kings 2 had a DLC trailer making it a selling point.
Amateurs. You have not really played the game until you fuck the horse-pope who is in your council, become an immortal hermetic and reunite the Roman Empire.
Hey, technically he didn't know. It's like Jon with Daenerys, except Leia ends up with Ser Jorah Han Solo.
I mean the character. Lucas is a madman
EDIT: Oops, wrong relevant link.
When it’s revealed though, Leia says that somehow “She’s always known.” so much like Dany, she probably would have been cool with it, had Han not shown up swinging his bullwhip around.
I am aware, originally something gave me the idea that there was some mythical creature with the name as well. But after some searching I gave up trying to find a concrete answer, but I found out about the seasoning and just said fuck it lol.
Well I've found this page, otherwise if you want to be more highbrow there's this lol. Fun fact: all the different names for tarragon in english, french, german, spanish and italian actually derive from the greek word for dragon. Probably some ancient drunkard mistook the bushes for a baby dragon or whatever, but you could use this as excuse.
That's also what I had found at one point as well, I remember seeing something that Tarragon meant dragon, or dragon plant. So I decided to go with it.
Did i already tell you how glad i am of walk out of toxic, bottomless pit?
Anyway, neither side is completely right. While i think that the inherently evil culture argument is used stupidly (why the hell should XXI century japanese and germans be ashamed of nazis and imperialism?), it's fucking demons being talked about here. It's not like the sheer origin, basis and appearance of demons isn't negative from the get go. Arguing demons shouldn't be portrayed as bad or that orcs should be respected by human counterparts goes against the tropes and expectations about these races (not that it's a bad thing).
The argument wasn't that the culture is still the same. Germans nowadays shouldn't feel bad at all their people used to be brutal Nazis. That's not their fault at all. However, the existing culture in Nazi Germany was inherently evil, as was, say, the Aztec culture, or Confederate culture. That was the point, not that that means anyone today should feel bad, as all of our ancestors have no doubt did awful shit.
I'm not talking about the argument being used here, i meant i understand some of MeltingPenguin reaction to the subject.
But her reaction was fucking stupid. It was brought up that the Nazi's culture was awful, and she got super offended and assumed she was being called a Nazi because she was German. That's not an understandable reaction, that's stupid.
I agree that it's stupid, but it's plausible that she heard the argument that germans should be ashamed because nazis. It's also something of a controversial subject, taking their extreme censorship into account.
Doesn't mean she was right acting like a child and calling the mods.
But that wasn't what was said. Nothing like that was said.
Exactly, which is why her attitude was uncalled for and stupid. I think she did try to counter the shame argument , which is probably what MeltingPenguins thought they were getting at with the inherently evil culture bit.
I can only come to the conclusion it is a "sensitive subject" to the cogite and/or she gets triggered easily like the rest there.
Good God. Well I'm sure MeltingPenguins would agree that CoG is a cult and not a culture.
Taking the subject more seriously, I personally identify cultures with longer periods of time, but yeah it's difficult to define what exactly a culture is. Defining a cult is easier though, and nazism and fascism were not cults. In fact, saying they were just cults diminishes the importance they actually had for millions of people. They were political alignments, parties that assumed control over entire countries. As every political party they had their own ideology, but I wouldn't reduce them to cults.
As for the orc child, I think it could go either way. On one hand if the orc was brought up by another culture he would probably conform to their morality etc, since I don't believe orcs are inherently evil at birth. On the other hand, it would be perfectly reasonable for a paladin to kill him if they have very rigid moral views. I'd personally spare and assimilate him, but I understand why others wouldn't. Of course if you were writing a CYOA you'd simply put this as a choice and avoid the responsibility of the decision.
If you do, I'll change my example of an inherently evil culture to Aztecs or the Pre-Civil War South.
Also, what's your logic on it being perfectly reasonable for a paladin to kill him if the orc isn't inherently evil at birth? Wouldn't strict morals mean he'd HAVE to take in and raise the child, while someone with less strict morals can kill it, knowing that it's a waste of time to protect the baby and if he lets the Orcs raise it it'll be evil.
Hm, I could have explained myself much better. I meant indoctrinated paladins who were taught that orcs and the likes are inherently bad and believe morals are connected to one's nature and race. Extremists if you want. I guess I wouldn't call them paladins at this point, but they'd probably think they are since they're usually lawful good and they are following the law/general belief. I don't think that that would be the moral thing to do either, but it can be coherent with the character's beliefs.
As for my view of cultures, they usually are made up of a lot of aspects and traditions (art, literature, food, clothes etc) so I don't think it's right to label one as completely evil. Of course there are some that have many evil laws or customs, but I try to avoid identifying the whole culture with those things only.
Aah, extremists. That does make more sense, I understand.
And I agree no culture is completely evil, sure, but that's because no real thing is completely evil. Inherently, evil, however, yes, definitely.
It's going to be amusing the next time the term "rape culture" is thrown about since going by her definition, there can't be "rape culture."
And all men are cultists!
Oh and as for the Nazi culture thing: https://uwpress.wisc.edu/books/2431.htm
I mean I can see if you want to try to make the argument that Nazism is a cult today, but back in 1930s Germany? That shit definitely became the culture. It dominated every aspect of life there for a period of time long enough that everyone is still talking about them. (Just like now!)
This isn't even touching on the slave owning civs that Steve mentioned. Hell, one of the biggest arguments you get an average southerner going on about is how the confederate flag is its part of their culture. Then the counter point is how their culture involved slavery and the flag represents that. Can't very well claim the slave owning south was a cult at that point.
Of course MP ignored everything else, got hysterical and just focused on Nazis because she's German and has a bunch of that white guilt shit that a lot of them seem to have indoctrinated in them over there. (Well except for the Nazis obviously)
Come on, you can't act surprised the Cogites have a shit ton of white guilt, especially the German ones.
Although, an interesting point is Melting Penguin's avatar. It's a black woman. Now, I don't want to generalize and say there isn't a lot of black Germans, but there isn't. There's lots of black Americans due to slavery and Indian British due to colonialism, but since Germany's a fairly new nation and kind of had a phase of "Maybe we kill the foreigners", most native born Germans are pretty white. So, is Melting Penguin an exception, OR is she white and putting a black person as her profiler as some fucked up race hate thing towards herself?
She could be Turkish, lots of Turks in Germany and the avatar isn't very dark after all. But I like your second option better.
Yeah, that's why I said I liked the second option better. Someone should really ask her, just to confirm the rule.
On CoG you can see a bigger image of the avatar in her profile and it seems more of an ambiguous brown color than black.
She mentioned she got mistaken as Mexican once so she could just have some mixed blood of Mediterranean descent.
EDIT: Or what undr said and she's a Turk.
EDIT 2: Or the other theory others proposed which is she's just some whiny whitey.
Confirmed. One was very bitchy and psychotic to me on a flight when I was 8.
But... If she's a white person using a black avatar... Isn't that cultural appropriation?
Nah, I'm pretty sure cultural appropriation only applies to white people.
Pack of gum would be more accurate, my first HG was an epic flop. (Apparently people don't like riddles)
Given how much she cries for the mods and hysterical screams of "BIGOT" all the time, I'd say MeltdownPenguin is more accurate.
I love how the very first thing Meltdown typed was accusations of biggotry, then she starts flailing about a million reasons it hurts their safe space.
I mean, if it's supposed to be realistic or convey a message, why do you care it's not a perfect LGBTBBQ haven? lol
"As writers, we have a responsibility to avoid attacking our readers in ways that could hurt them personally or further their discrimination." - Some faggot
Seriously, can I continue to say how much fucking bullshit this mindset is? CoGites keep telling this lie and its getting really old. All it does is stifle creativity and try to mold the author to do what YOU want. The writer should always do what THEY want.
And what the writer should do is stick with what they want to write.
This idea that the writer has to kowtow to the masses is seriously a mindset that needs to fucking die.
It's infuriating, but if you want to get a living off entertainment, you have to bend to the audience. CoG just happens to have a target audience of pissed lefties who can't tolerate what goes against their agenda.
Perhaps the problem with living off writing is that you need to sacrifice some part of your freedom and creativity to appease your public or whatever enterprise backs you up.
Oh I get the whole "compromise = money" thing and that's just something that the writer is going to have to come to grips with on their own.
What I don't like is when you've got masses of ignorant fucktards telling every writer "Don't write this theme/story in this particular way because it's bad!"
Yeah, I think that definitely, the CoG forum community is only a very slim percentage of people who actually read the CoG games.
It's pretty interesting to see the contrast actually. In the CoG forums the consensus is generally, "Don't do anything that has even the slightest chance of offending anyone." Whereas, if you read some of the GooglePlay comments on the CoG games, they're all, "How DARE you give the option to play as non-binary? You're making Jesus cry!!!"
... It really, really, really was my own fault for asking. >.<
I figured you already had the link and just didn't give a fuck since you were busy hacking the site, beating Leora and taking classes in some high level math nerd shit. (Not necessarily in that order)
Gotta love that when Briar finally read through everything and considered EVERYONE'S position, she's still getting shit and people trying to scold her into making the decision that THEY want her to.
Glad to see they proved the damn point I made in that thread as usual.
Oh dear. Haven't read that yet... This is not going to be fun. >.<
Perhaps one made of penguins.
I don't know what i expected out of that thread, but i laughed real hard when i saw Nael mentioned Ines Brasil halfway through the post like some kind of real life victim.
As we say here, that thread made my arms fall off. But I should just enjoy the comic reliefs it offered and keeps offering. Thanks Briar for sacrificing yourself to the CoGites.
> as an NB boy
> ma'am + sir = mair
Lol, sounds suspiciously like mare.
And poison_mara is obviously the best poster.
She's Spanish. To be fair Mediterranean people are usually blunter than Americans when criticizing physical appearance (i.e. it's not uncommon for a relative/friend/acquaintance to tell you that you should lose weight or to harshly criticize how you dress). It's not always nice but it's not seen as a big deal.
And I do like her more than the others, if anything because she puts a smile on my face.
This thread is hilarious. I've actually thought of writing a story just for COG where no matter which gender option you pick, the antagonist is just an unrepentant cunt and makes fun of the protagonist, and makes them feel like absolute shit. Can't imagine it would pass their rigorous screening and emotional testing process though.
Lol, unless they mean "greeted online." If it was irl I'd really like to know where that happened though.
Non-binaries are actually robots. There are only two sexes.
Took them long enough. Lol.
Can't remember off the top of my head, I know he got his thread locked or something. I actually told the guy they were talking shit about behind his back in a PM. He confronted them briefly but not much came of it.
Still, yeah it's hilariously hypocritical.
"We can talk about that dude behind his back and mock him and it's fine, but if it's us? Absolutely halal!"
I did that too, but seems like he disappeared completely though.
Hmm, the Gestapo moved quickly. Must be Goebbels.
Well I hope you've learned your lesson! Taking screenshots of people's conversations so that you can make fun of them behind their backs? Seriously! You should all be ashamed of yourselves!
The vast majority of COGites are fragile cunts who can't write for shit, mostly because they're too afraid to take any real risks with a story or, as has been repeatedly stated in this thread and in our Discord, are too worried about what their little snowflake friends might think about it to write what they want. They're so scared of offending someone that they end up wimping out and writing something that's bland. Wanting your stories to be inclusive and have diverse characters shouldn't stop you from fucking them over because "oh, people's feefees might get hurt". Yeah? Well grow the fuck up, people get their feefees hurt all the time, you're not attacking them personally by having a person of their race or gender or sexuality or whatever getting hurt, are you?
Also, in regards to this thread... Some of them ask whether it serves the story to have people be confused over what gender a trans/nonbinary MC is, or to have someone call a trans/nonbinary MC by their assigned pronouns than by their preferred pronouns to spite them. Now I ask this question: does it serve the story to include all these meaningless gender options that just change what people call you when referring to you by gender? Does it add anything to the story to include all these bland and interchangeable romance options who are just there for your character to make sexy time with? Is the story really better when you include all these characters whose sole defining characteristic is being black/Muslim/Asian or trans/non-binary/gay/whateverthefuck? The answer to that is a big fat fucking no.
To end this little mini rant... Hey MeltdownPenguin, if you're reading this, can you grow up you dumb bitch? And if you're not reading this, random COGite guest that is reading this, go tell her that I said that please.
Alright, everyone calm down a bit for awhile, we've made peace again with our Cogite neighbors. (again)
Okay first things first.
THIS thread isn't being deleted. There was a request for it to be deleted, but for several reasons that's just not something that can be done. All that can be done is "moving on."
Now the concern was that THIS thread will continue to fan the flames of hatred and strife. I on the other hand believe that much like most topics around here it's going to sink to the bottom and occasionally be linked to as a memory of good times like other threads since something new and shiny will inevitably pop up. (Probably tomorrow)
In any case, by all means continue to make fun of them if you so desire when they say eye rolling things, just don't deliberately "troll" them. And given the lot we have here I think you all know if you're genuinely trolling or not. (This actually isn't a new policy, more like me repeating the old one from last time.)
In any case, the CoGites can now rest easy in their safe spaces, and the CYSers can go back to being terrible to each other (and everyone else)
"By all means continue to make fun of them if you so desire when they say eye rolling things"
Fuck I almost burst out laughing during the lesson.
A pillow fort? So that's how they protect their safe spaces... Hmmmm.
The whole cordiality and education thing only serve when you're part of the flock. Once you stray they have the right to call you: racist, facist, nazi, neonazi, sexist, mysoginist, mysandric, homophobic, transphobic, arachnophobic, taxist, marxist...
The list goes on. But i've grown to stop caring about their perceived offenses and agenda.
Nah, just another brazillian conservative venting. Fucking left here is a complete disgrace.
EDIT: Wait a minute. I see what you did there.
Well In my opinion all of you are a bunch of cowards that insulting people hidden here. Instead of doing it where we our targets can defend ourselves. Insulting people is easy at their backs. But it is fucking hypocrite. But I don't are a coward like all of you so If any of you want to insult me I am here. But I know how reply assholes.
Hello, so glad you're here. What are your thoughts on the great savior of Spain, Francisco Franco? He did save Spain from the barbaric savage communists after all.
I am not in discord And I am not a fascists. I also aren't a cogite or any shit of entitled anything I have been banned twice there. But I only want to say that was so terribly wrong in me To hae to name me. If you name otherw is no my fucking problem
We literally said that we liked you better than the others.
The people we are insulting just happened to do what you said.
I guess the true hypocrites here are you and your friends.
My friends? Half them I requested my banning. So No most people you are talking are no my friends. I am here because I was cited so I came here to see Why another page was insulting me. I go and say things to face. So I came here to see what is that I won't go cry or something
mizal said you were the most likable there. You can read it for yourself, it's in this thread.
And you just said we're just a bunch of cowards? Why, it's horrible when people prove of their own venom, isn't it?
Read the whole thread calmly, and then observe the behavior of the people we're talking about. Especially MeltdownPenguins.
It’s hard to insult someone who is doing such a good job of making themselves look absolutely stupid in front of a writing forum dedicated to professional writing.
I will love seen you talking into another language you are learning. All of you are easy to insult but appart from that have any interesting ideas .? Except endmaster who is a good author.
The level of sheer and utter incoherence that you have is actually astounding. I hope you learn to grow a brain soon! Best wishes.
Empathy requires a heart and other people understanding. Not Insulting everything that moves.
Lol You have to have a damn persuasion for put me in drag I hare dresses like if were the devil lol
Drag in Spanish is the clothing drag queens uses. So if you want put me in drag well that will not work
Isn't that kinda homophobic by CoG standards? Hmmm.
Well, actually I tried to argue with the Cogites, but I was warned to stop at risk of banning. I'll happily insult you to your face if I'm not going to get banned for it, although I don't know you and I don't know why I'd want to insult you. So we can't really insult anyone to their faces if we'll get banned trying to do so.
Actually I applaud Mara for actually coming here to confront people directly.
In any case she doesn’t need to be concerned about being banned here for having a differing opinion.
It is that right? Could here I use words as condoms lube or oriental?
Sure, whatever you like.
We tend to just ban the retarded spammers that are shitposting, not people that have different opinions.
But Is there some kind of war between here and Cog? I mean I didn't know until today that there were hostility . I always knww here people were more open about wording but I didn't knew they were something except the political correctness problem.
If there is a “war” it would be one of the lamest ones on the internet and that’s saying something. Lol.
There’s more of a differing mindset/opinions on various topics. Sometimes that comes out in spectacular and funny ways.
In the scheme of things people generally type a lot of shit and then move on.
Well then is good to know nobody is doing vudu dolls of me or something here. You know I think this would be lest dramatic if people just could talking directly without censoring anything. I am more calm now I know is not like a insult Mara gtoup lol.
A shame that only two major CYOA sites remain, but it does lend itself to quite the rivalry. The two last bastions of CYOA
(Random COG user passing through :D)
There's also Infinite Story.
(It's still active, no really!)
Emphasis on “tried” xD
I go by several different usernames lol
I'm actually really surprised that CoG would have a problem with the words "condoms" and "lube", since they pride themselves on being "sex positive".
EattheCake was a fucktard (and still is) even before he did that though.
I’ve actually always liked poisonmara, even if I didn’t agree with everything she said, but just never really interacted with her much at Cog.
No not really. You weren't never a lot there. At least while I was not banned. I mean I really understand part of people here chat. I have to think five times if the wording i use is enough political correctness to be used in the context. Then apologize for using the word i guess maybe could trigger someone. I swear half of my writing is not learning English is learning if I could say fellatio or condoms or lube or idf x is progressive. I am writing erotica. I need those stuff.
But that's not reason to insult people where they can't defend themselves . I mean I have no problem to come here nd defend myself but many people is not like me so for them it could be traumatic or something.
You see, Mara, the problem is you care.
Say, did you ever try to offend any of them directly? Did any of the things they censor actually mean harm?
Of course, not if I want insult people I just do so to the face. However sometimes I can insult people without pretending it I don't want to do that. So I truly try to empathize even if sometimes is veryannoying. Like Why can't be things say more directly. But there are really good writers there Like Paul. Havenstone etc And I am far better that I was. I know I suck but my English is totally self taught and I am bad learning languages.
Also I don't understand why most people here are so hostile to them did they insult all of you or something?
All of us? I can't vow for anyone here, but i particularly hate the attitude over there since an episode a while back.
People here are speaking their minds. There's even braindead, crazy people here, though i won't mention names, that are still going around and voicing their opinions.
Using the term oriental explaining the origin and how in latin leguages is correct their use. That bring me a moth expulsion. The second for a year anbecause a battle I had with a person that were trans in a mail where tried to make me change their vote in a contest . It was a political ban as has really nothing to do with cog. I just don't let my self being harassed and that person has contacted cog or something.
But what I was banned is not important lol. Now I know what I have to say and can bite my tongue enough to not being banned. Except maybe this post os reason enough to being ban again. Probably is. Lol.
Wait, how is "oriental" a slur?
Person 1: Ha! You're from the east.
Person 2: Racist! Someone arrest him.
Yes it is In California due some segregated laws about railroad in XIX I swear I had no idea about that. As here in Spain is the name they gammve to restaurants and even embassies. But well It was my fault for have no knowledge of slurs in California. In fact I learned a lot of usa history when I looked why i was banned. So It was a good experience
It's used as a slur and offends people. What part of that is confusing?
I've always thought it just meant, you know, "oriental". Good to know if I ever go to California I guess.
It does, but it's an old-timey offensive word. Why do you think Negroid's offensive? It just means black person.
Well that's different. "Oriental" is used simply in its original meaning in most places, with no offensive strings attached. As I said, I didn't know it was a slur in the States.
No, oriental has offensive strings attached, that's why it was offensive, and not just in the states. It has the same offensive strings attached to Negroid in that it was the common term used by whites considering themselves superior, as well as a general inaccuracy.
I agree that it's a relative term and not objectively accurate, but I assure you I'd never seen it used as a slur or seen people offended by it before. It's an outdated term and I only see it used in particular cases nowadays, but I didn't know it was offensive. It was like "tall" or "short" for me.
OK, cool, but it's definitely on the way out and a word with demeaning and racist roots, so maybe don't use it. It's not at the level of "Negro" yet, but it's going that way. It's still common enough that I don't assume badly of anyone who uses it, but it's definitely something to avoid.
I will be very nive if I suppose The stuff is erased with Some people in Cog forums. But I hope at least I won't be insulted or something. here... If not I suppose I have to come here talking for a while or shouting in caps. I mean I can't agree in many of you opinions and I thinking posting insulting people is kinda coward if personcan't come and defend themselves. But I personally doesn't have any problem with anyone here. And If I have I just camemyself and try to solve it directly. Well Someone of you have any problem with me ? Want say something.
Appart my terrible grammar and spelling. That I know is atrocious.
That's fair, but insulting people on CYS is just kind of what we do. We insult people we don't like. We insult people we do like. We insult each other and then the person who was insulted will probably say, "Is that really the best you can do? If you're going to insult me, at least put some effort into it." (What can I say? We're immature people.)
Sure, it's not necessarily used as a slur, but neither is Negroid, and I'm not saying anyone should attacked.
The word is a mismatched, nonsensical word that has generally been used as just a foreigner, applied to Egyptians, Levant, fucking Morroco, Israel, the Arab world, India and places like China. The word, like Negroid, has demeaning and offensive roots and was the word used to describe people in a negative manner when racism was the norm. It tends to be associated with a rather offensive stereotype of the people, and we have better, more accurate terms than it without racist roots.
Yeah, but you could buy "Nigger Hair Tobacco" in the 1950s. Does that mean that it wasn't really offensive? It's a word that's on its way out due to its racist origins, that doesn't mean it's there yet.
I prefer "robust mongoloid".
I cannot wait to give them a piece of my mind! Well after I'm done patiently serving out my 200 year sentence. Maybe good behavior will get me out in 100 years? :)
Fingers are certainly crossed.