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Flutter leaving the site - The Grand Finale

12 hours ago
Commended by Avery_Moore on 1/21/2025 2:26:33 PM

I have been to the doctor. They have given me a number to call if things get worse, but they seem to be calming down now. One thing I noticed was my voice seemed to be stuck on 1.5x speed, so I think the after-effects are still lingering, even now. It was a good idea to go and get that number, just in case. Thank you so much to everyone who insisted that I do so.

I suspect the reason for my mental state was I was suddenly having very, very, very many different thoughts about extremely diverse things all at once. I actually found it difficult to do anything more than sit quietly for many hours at a time, literally just thinking. This is what contributed to my time distortion, because I didn't realise I had been sitting in one spot motionless for like half a day. And I was starting to notice some very, very spooky things about the whole "forum adventure" relating to my story which I still think are very, very spooky. Perhaps some people are starting to piece things together, but it should be clear to everyone soon what my thoughts on the matter are. I think it will make pretty much every important detail clear, including my reasons for doing all the things that I did.

I have been thinking, and I think I will most likely not leave this site. Certainly, I will try to save my two favourite stories that I deleted, and I think the "copy paste" process will probably help settle things. But I think I will be taking a good long break, because as bad as it has been for me I also know it affected multiple people here, and I think it would do everyone a lot of good if I distanced myself from everything for a while. Not forever, mind you, I think CYS still needs its "White Wizard" pegasus to keep away all the demons and spookums and things that go "bump in the night". But certainly for a long while. As I have, officially, been seen by a doctor and declared to be at least somewhat sound, I believe you can all trust me now not to break this particular promise. I won't be saying "Goodbye" to anyone, because this is not a goodbye. It is just a pause, that's all. And anyway, you will all be able to read more of my thoughts soon enough.

Also, one last thing occurred to me yesterday. The way I deal with things that I find hard to think about is I look at them through a harmless lens, usually an episode of an animated series that I like. And I think this whole adventure that started with me as this somewhat nervous and whimsical character and ended with me genuinely seeming to unnerve people with occultism is summed up, perfectly, by a particular episode of (you guessed it...) My Little Pony. Seriously, if anyone wants to know how I think, keep this whole adventure in mind if you decide watch this episode, it's one of my favourites and I think, over the past month, I have realised why

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23iiX-jzAgc

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12 hours ago

It just keeps going

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11 hours ago

Hurray! I'm glad you went to see a doctor. A lot of what you describe sounds quite similar to what I went through when I was ill. Not 100% sure why it happens, but sometimes something triggers your brain to go into "fight or flight" mode, which is a very important mental state for animals. It gives them the extra jolt of energy that they need to fight off or out run a predator when they're being attacked. The trouble is, when it happens to humans, there often isn't actually any immediate danger that requires all that extra energy. So, your brain is going at a million miles an hour but without a singular thought to focus on like, "I am being chased by a lion. I need to run away from the lion" it just kind of goes all over the place, and your brain just kind of... Tries to figure out the reason that you're afraid and you end up coming up with some really weird things to be afraid of.

For me it was a lot of, "But what's going to happen when I get old? What if everybody I love dies? Or I get cancer? Or I'm in chronic pain all the time? Or what if I'm paralysed? Or what if I get dementia and forget about everybody I care about? I should probably kill myself now before any of that happens." Looking back now, I can understand how nonsensical all that thinking is, but at the time, because my brain was in fight or flight mode, my brain was absolutely convinced that it needed to figure out a reason for me to be afraid.

I'm guessing for you, your fight or flight brain was tealling you that everybody was a satanist that needed to be rescued with the power of Jesus and My Little Pony!

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7 hours ago

Yeah, paranoia is a big part of mania. Admittedly I do think they should have at least prescribed him some type of medication or a follow-up appointment. But regardless, this is hopefully the end of the Bronyian Saga.

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6 hours ago
Might be a bit beyond mania honestly. Sent found stuff saying hallucinations of a devil in the head causing a burning sensation is straight up schizophrenia, like it's a common thing of unmedicated people self describing their experiences. Though there's a lot of crossover with bipolar mania in the other behaviors of course. I know the UK is a mess but I have such a hard time believing any doctor having these symptons described would be just like, 'call me if it happens again'. I suspect some things got downplayed there. (Especially when he's still got all this stuff about Satan and the occult and a mysterious "them" with sinister intentions for the site stuck in his head.) Just reading that last OP would have led to an immediate diag And I still have a feeling the dude is like, intensely malnourished and physically unhealthy, a decent doctor might have tried to address that too. It's been theorized though that the "important commitments" involved flutter talking to people IRL who might be paying direct enough attention to him to notice something was wrong, so maybe seeing a doctor finally involved pressure from someone IRL who will hopefully keep tabs. There's got to be somebody keeping a roof over his head and the streaming services on anyway. But, there's never been anything anyone here could do about any of this. Except try to cut down on the forum spam, which, looking at the Lounge index, is really overdo.

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11 hours ago
Perhaps some people are starting to piece things together, but it should be clear to everyone soon what my thoughts on the matter are. I think it will make pretty much every important detail clear, including my reasons for doing all the things that I did.


No, I don't think so. This is probably something that requires a person be living inside your mind while it's in this specific state, and I'm guessing the reason you keep hinting at things to imply some great spooky significance while unwilling to spell it out is because you know what it would sound like to a rational person. But it's fine to keep it to yourself anyhow, I think everyone might have read enough of these epiphanies and other things that have suddenly occurred to you for now.

I'm glad you finally went to see a doctor anyhow. I just hope you were thorough in describing your symptoms, because nothing about listing out word for word the textbook symptoms for schizophrenia seem like they should be met with "call me if it happens again (even though you'll be too delusional to tell)". But then maybe that's just your NHS being special.

Please give that number and a full report of what's happened to a family member or someone else that's at least occasionally in communication with you IRL.

And I wish you all the best, but now that we've reached the last thread, this is going to remain the LAST thread, so don't make any more, I mean it. The grandness of this finale will be enforced one way or another.

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9 hours ago
I will be your White Wizard!

Oh wait.

You said, "wizard" and "pegasus."

I'm really only good at being a white knight. Okay, just a regular knight. I mean, sometimes a black knight, but those people really had it coming to them!

Uh...

Mercer Gang!

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6 hours ago

I'm not trying to armchair diagnose or second-guess, but I do NOT think you went to see a psychiatrist..I'm a bit perplexed by the doctor's response. You mentioned you 'went to the doctor' and were told to just call back if things escalate? I'm not questioning the doc's expertise, but... in my country, with the symptoms you've described, 응급심사 (Emergency Assessment) would be the bare minimum. I mean.. what you write here is quite concerning.

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6 hours ago
He's British. But yeah, even then, I have a few questions about this too. (Unfortunately, our only source of answers is an unreliable narrator.)

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5 hours ago

As someone who lives in Britain, "let us know if it gets worse" sounds very much like something a GP would say.

That said, mental health is a very tricky thing to treat.

Let's say you have a toothache caused by an abscess. You take some antibiotics. Problem solved!

With mental health though... A lot of the time it's a guessing game. Let's say someone has depression. Well, there are like a million different antidepressants. Some of them might make the patient better. Some of them might make the patient worse. Some of them might make the patient worse for awhile and then make them better... And there's no telling what pill is going to do what. You just have to pick a pill and cross your fingers. And once the patient starts taking the pills, it could take anything from 2 weeks to 2 months for them to work... Assuming that they do work.

And diagnosing a patient isn't easy either. Depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, bipolar, borderline personality disorder, all these kind of things can have similar symptoms, but if you diagnose a patient incorrectly and prescribe them the wrong medication, it's more likely to make them worse than better.

While Flutter has clearly not been well, he does seem to be mellowing down a bit. The doctors options at the moment are either:

1. Let's see if he manages to mellow all the way down back to his usual, semi-sane self and we'll reconsider if he starts to get worse.
2. Prescribe him a pill that could potentially make him a lot better, but also could potentially make him a lot worse, while he's in a calm enough state that we can't properly diagnose him.

So... Saying, "give us a call if it gets worse" is probably the best bet at the moment.

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5 hours ago
What I don't get is the lack of even a follow up appointment. "Here's a number, don't bother me unless it gets worse" to a person too delusional to understand they ever even needed to see a doctor in the first place is worse than useless.

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5 hours ago

That's the NHS for you! Too many patients, not enough staff, so unless you're dying, you can fuck right off! ... Honestly, even if you are dying, we'd appreciate it if you'd fuck off. We don't have enough beds and you'd probably be more comfortable at home, anyway.

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5 hours ago

And people wonder why Americans resist the universal healthcare idea. We see what happens in European countries and Canada.

But seriously Avery. When you went to a doctor, didn't you get a follow up or prescribed meds or something other than (call us if it happens again?

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5 hours ago
To be fair, we have pretty bad wait times for our ERs too. At the hospital I volunteer at, we sometimes have to put patients on beds against the wall because all our rooms are occupied, and they can wait there for hours sometimes(not always, just when things get really busy). Granted our ER is on the smaller side, but still, that's not including all the people in the waiting room.

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5 hours ago

True, but do they walk in just to be sent right back out like a revolving door?

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5 hours ago
No, they don't. In that respect, it's doing pretty good.

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5 hours ago

Hard to say, I kind of went back and forth several times.

I know the first time I went to see a doctor about my mania/insomnia, he prescribed me some pills straight away and they definitely helped.

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5 hours ago

Well, I assume British healthcare is different from American healthcare. Must be that Universal Healthcare bullshit. I say this as someone who is uninsured and has relatives in Canada. 
 

But still. A follow up appointment or a more in-depth evaluation would be warranted here. Either the European healthcare system sucks AIDS, Flutter didn't actually go, or (most likely option in my eyes) he went but didn't actually go into detail on what was going on (like showing them the stuff he's been posting).

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4 hours ago

Look, I have to push back on what Avery's saying here. The stuff Flutter's describing isn't just regular anxiety. "racing thoughts, weird time perception, getting deep into occult stuff, paranoia", that sounds a like bipolar disorder, maybe with some psychotic episodes. And being told to "just call back if things get worse" is nonsense. again, NHS or whatever it is called is not my country's healthcare system, but I've never heard of any medical professional being presented these symptoms, and it being handled so... casually? and, again, if flutter did NOT even go to the doc to truthfully tell about these symptoms, why would he even go there in the first place. it makes no sense.

No follow-up appointment? No actual treatment plan? Just a phone number and "good luck"? Come on. that's BS. And look, I know this sounds harsh, but it's painfully obvious what's happening. Flutter knows people here are worried, knows writing all these posts aren't healthy, and when enough people pushed about seeing a doctor, he just made up a lie that he 'visited the doc' to keep the attention going. I get that saying this might make me sound like a jerk, but you guys could actually be doing much much more harm than good by playing along. We're just people on the internet, and the more we feed into this behavior, the longer Flutter puts off getting real help. every post, every response, every bit of attention is just pushing actual treatment further away. really.

sure, Avery's not wrong that mental health treatment involves some trial and error (although she says it as if psychiatry is some voodoo magic or lottery, which it isn't), but that doesn't mean it's ok to just sit here enabling behavior that's clearly spiraling.

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4 hours ago

No it makes sense that he's trying to get us off his back about seeing a doctor. Especially since others who have used the NHS have different experiences where they got help the first time out.

Now, idk if he actually went. Like I said in a earlier post, he may have gone but avoided explaining the full extent of what was happening (basically downplaying his symptoms). But short of catching a flight to the UK and dragging him into the emergency room, I'm not sure what else we can do here except encourage him to keep seeking treatment.

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4 hours ago
With what I've heard about the NHS, it did sort of surprise me that a person could call a doctor and make an appointment and get in the very next day. Still stuck at not being able to rule anything out and not being able to verify anything either. We will never have a clear and fully reliable picture of what's going on unless we fly to the UK and stage some kind of hostage situation with Hasbro merch to lure him out. But hey, a break from these threads, that's progress as far as I'm concerned.

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4 hours ago

That would be fucking hilarious. Avery can give us a place to crash and we can smuggle guns into the goddamn country and finally show that filth what it feels like to have someone come into YOUR land and steal your shit rob all the stores of MLP merch and use it to bribe flutter.

While we're there, I'm digging up Duleep Singh and taking his body back to India.

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4 hours ago
Well, my assumption is still that he may have massively downplayed what was actually going on, and didn't get at all into the crazier stuff. He is not capable at this moment of even seeing it as crazy after all and has still been under the belief that he doesn't have anything wrong enough that he NEEDS to see a doctor. Like I mentioned before, hallucinating a demon or something inside your skull causing burning headaches is apparently one of those bit indicators of actual schizophrenia. And all the stuff about time distortion etc should have raised some bigger red flags imo. I have considered before that we probably shouldn't be providing a platform for him paranoid rambling about the occult instead of talking to real people, but genuinely I don't know what banning him would even do aside from removing an annoyance from the rest of us, he's still going to be just as online somewhere else. I'm not intending to let him make any more of these threads, that solves the problem on our end. And people can continue to call him out on the assorted demented takes he's got on various subjects, as if they think he'll ever give a coherent answer addressing a straightforward question at this point. Or they can keep making these heartfelt, well-meaning posts for him to ignore, or just get completely burned out by it all and ignore him, whatever. Nobody here has any power to make him do anything IRL no matter what they're saying. Really wondering why it's us and not some MLP community dealing with this though.

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4 hours ago

Because he's preaching the word of MLP and they already know friendship is magic. Lol.

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6 hours ago
Also if you live in Korea, you should go to a restaurant and post pictures of food.

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5 hours ago
I second that. Korean food is really good.

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3 hours ago

[I am writing this as a clarification to the above. I have unwatched this post, so I will most certainly not be posting anything to these forums ever again. Know that I am not ignoring the posts and appreciate any concern or kindness people show, even if much of the concern is unwarranted]

For anyone concerned or confused, when I talk about "gods that set fire in the head", I am using these things as metaphors for things like "mania", because the "Song of Amorgin", which I was indeed quoting, reference seems to be describing such a situation. I am not having hallucinations, and I have never made this claim at all. Even if I wasn't using them as metaphors ,even if I meant it, there's a quote by CS Lewis which reads something along the lines of "I find it easier to imagine demons and gods as real forces rather than as simply psychological factors". I do not think CS Lewis was being demented, or schizopherinc, or any of the things we're talking about here. We just live in a world that has been so absurdly disconnected from any serious discussion of religion that even using these things as casual metaphors is enough to draw these sorts of criticisms, let alone discussion of them as actual, real-life forces as CS Lewis did. Carl Jung obviously considered these things to be metaphors for human behaviour, but I do not think it fair to insist that he was right and every person who disagrees is wrong.

I genuinely just have a completely different way of thinking about things than many people do. This doesn't make me "demented", "schizophrenic" or any of these things. I think seeing the world in a totally religious framework is actually more comprehensive than otherwise, which is why I have somewhat recently made the switch to seeing things in a "modernist/post-modernist" framework to a "fully religious" framework.

Again, I will not be posting any more to forums, here or anywhere else, ever again. There's no point if I have to make entire, vast paragraphs explaining an off-handed statement or quote that I think of in the spur of the moment.

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2 hours ago

Who would have thought the adult that still obsesses and jerks off to cartoon ponies would have mental problems..?

I..I just don't understand how this could be. It’s very shocking and surprising...

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one hour ago

But don't you see? That just proves he's been right all along!

It's actually awesome!

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one hour ago
Commended by Sherbet on 1/22/2025 12:52:28 AM
You're on a forum with a LOT of people who are very positive on religion, a lot of Christians, a lot of well read people who are pretty familiar with C.S. Lewis, all of who you are talking down to to make yourself feel better about your own difficulties. You are not C.S. Lewis, he could write clearly and convincingly about his faith, while you are struggling with basic coherence and then blaming everyone else for not "getting" you. (And since I saw this in the DM, you also fwiw did not "get manic" because you were able to talk on the forum about your ideas until everyone crushed your soul or whatever, there are no interactions that make a person who isn't already manic just "get" manic. Much like "thinking about different things" can't make you have a psychotic break.) C.S. Lewis could also hold a normal fucking conversation when required. He raised a family, he was a scholar and theologian with an actual education not acquired from reading the internet and thinking real hard, he was up to real world challenges and responsibilities. Genuinely, why are you comparing yourself on any level, and especially what you've been doing here this last month to that man? Meanwhile we have English professors here that you think you're smarter than, and people who study the Bible in the original fucking Hebrew that you insist are Satanic. You're really misrepresenting what's been happening here, and ignoring your own behavior. The abrupt mood swings and sudden displays of hostility, the arrogant superiority complex, the manic posting with one thread after another that's filled the whole Lounge. Up until a few months ago you were able to structure information on a screen and communicate ideas in a reasonable and effective way, we have seen your writing. But that's all changed now and deteriorated wildly along with your personality shifts. But no, none of that can have anything to do with anything, I guess it really must be that everyone is too low intelligence and anti-religious to understand you, nothing to do but sadly drift away bemoaning your fate as the most correct but simultaneously most misunderstood human who ever lived. I'll be copying and DMing this to you in reply to the one you sent me just before this. (Where you said you weren't going to post again, but then posted anyway.) It's the only DM I'll send you. I've got like eight or nine from you in my inbox since this all began, I'm sure you've noticed I haven't responded to a single one since you were always either in the process of leaving or "posting less" but flooding people's inboxes with replies to posts instead. You really, truly need to back off until your brain can cool off, you needed to do that several threads ago. And since you've doubled down on this "never posting again" thing (again), it will be enforced this time. I really do wish you all the best, and several people here have expressed a huge amount of patience and concern despite all the times you've shown yourself to be an actual cunt followed by all your sad messages about being sad. Even though it's now apparently just a sign of them being too dull and material to understand your enlightened speech, but whatever works for you buddy, sure. It has also not escaped my notice that you got out of bed between and have been online between 3-6am apparently with some burning need to say these things to me and Fresh and the forum. Doesn't seem quite like you've managed to calm down about things yet, but then I guess I am absurdly disconnected off in my post-modernist framework so what do I know.