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Insomnia

10 days ago

Well, I'm fucked.

I'm sure a lot of you will probably remember that delightful little breakdown I had a few months back where I couldn't sleep for about a month straight and turned into a full blown crazy person? Well, lucky me! It's back again. I've sort of been up and down for the past couple of weeks, but tonight it's gone back to what it was like before where I'm up at 5:30 in the morning trying everything I can think of to go to sleep and failing miserably. No fun :'(

Does anybody else have any experience with insomnia, or have any advice or ideas on ways to get to sleep? I really don't want to be a crazy person again. >.<

Insomnia

10 days ago

i've been on some meds that have given me insomnia and then sometimes i get it cuz of stress. doc gave me flexeril some years back for chronic back pain and i'll take a small dose to help me sleep when i got insomnia. the only shit that's helped me is meds but if you dont wanna go that route i'm sure there are other things you can try. i heard exercise helps some people but for others it just makes them wired. maybe try melatonin or something so you dont risk getting addicted to something or bad side effects.

Insomnia

10 days ago

Really sorry to hear that, that sucks. Hope you've been feeling better since then.

Anyway, if by meds you mean sleeping tablets, I was taking them for a little while but I find that, while they would knock me out for a few hours, they didn't actually make me any less tired. I guess 'cos it was more of a dreamless sleep, so when I wake up, I don't actually feel rested.

I guess exercise might help, but of course the insomnia makes me really tired and when I'm tired I don't want to do exercise (also, I'm just a lazy bitch in general.) Still, I guess it's definitely worth a try if it doesn't get any better. Thank you. ^_^

Insomnia

9 days ago

good luck with your insomnia. i hope it calms down for you soon.

Insomnia

10 days ago
Damn. I remember that. Sorry to hear it, Briar.
I fall asleep fast if I am in a cool room and listening to certain music and not really doing or thinking about anything else. Don't know if it helps anyone else though.

Insomnia

10 days ago

i sleep better in a cool room too. lots of websites say that sleeping in a cool, dark room is ideal.

Insomnia

10 days ago

Yeah, I find that sometimes putting o relaxing music or ASMR videos in the background will eventually help me go to sleep, but sometimes it doesn't.

Insomnia

10 days ago
Damn, yes I do remember the last time. I don't really get insomnia anymore because with my work schedule now I'm passing out any chance I get, but in the past the most reliable cure I came across was just the obvious stuff like quitting caffeine early and getting completely away from any screens a couple hours in advance. Reading a book on paper also helped a surprising amount...it's just enough to distract you and keep your sleep deprived mind from doing that racing wildly around in circles thing, but not enough to keep you up when you do get sleepy. More physical activity during the day also helps. But you obviously get it a lot worse. You should probably see a doctor before it gets anywhere near the level it was at last time.

Insomnia

10 days ago

Thanks Miz.

I actually don't drink caffeine at all, so can't do much about that... But yeah, quitting screens and maybe reading a book for a litttle while before bed would probably help. I think the fact that, when I can't sleep, I instantly turn to the internet is probably not helping at all.

Strangely enough, after I made this post about having insomnia again, I actually managed to get a bit of sleep afterwards... So I guess that sharing my problems and getting stuff off my chest helped me feel less stressed, so yeah, it's nice to have you guys to talk to. ^_^

(I should really join the discord again, but I know that when I'm on there I don't get any writing done.) >.<

Insomnia

10 days ago

I'm sorry, that sounds bad. At the levels you're describing, I know I'd personally seek out medical help, but then again that's just me and I don't like telling people what to do. Best I can do is whish you the best and hope you can get over this eventually.

Insomnia

10 days ago

Well, the first time it was for like a month straight and it was constant. This time, it's only been for a few weeks and definitely not every day. I think there's only been like three days in the past couple of weeks where I couldn't sleep. Still, will definitely seek out medical help if it gets any worse.

Insomnia

10 days ago

There's an odd trick that sometimes works for me. Blink really fast 100 times. Count it out in your head. The counting focuses the mind away from stray thoughts, and by about 45-50 blinks the eyelids have just gotten pretty tired of moving.

Insomnia

10 days ago

Haven't heard of that one before! Will definitely try it out if I can't get to sleep again. Thanks. ^_^

Insomnia

10 days ago

Could try meditating - count to 100 but focus only on the numbers and nothing else sorta stuff.

Insomnia

10 days ago

Yeah, that's a good idea. I guess that focussing on something else helps to clear the mind of all the stuff you're stressed about, which would make your brain ready for sleep. ^_^

Insomnia

10 days ago

Ahahaha, all week, i've been in trouble. I should be asleep right now. I havent been sleeping for more that 3 hours at a time (uncomfortably at that) and getting very little work done due to tiredness. I've got so many illustrations to get done! But I can't find the spirit to do them...

  Mine is a symptom of my OUT OF CONTROL ADHD which ive only just identified, so i dont know what to do about it. I'm in a pickle, or maybe in a whole barrel of pickles.... Last time this happened, I passed out at school and snoozed a whole 17 hours. I didn't wake up particularly energetic or nothin'. I hate it cos' i start talking wacky and holing up in my room unnaturally.

It seems I don't have much advice. I've tried working out a but beforehand and it helps out somewhat, but please dont push yourself to the edge. It makes your brain explode, which is bad for brains. A doctor if you need to.

Insomnia

10 days ago

Oh fuck! That sounds really bad. Yeah, I definitely start talking wacky when I haven't slept. Sounds very similar to what I had before. Have you seen a doctor about it at all?

Insomnia

9 days ago

Mmm, I can't remember the last time I went to a doctor. Sometime....at some point? In all honesty, I think it's like, an ADHD thing thats never been brought up before. I was doing some reading and not to be a self diagnosing bastard, but this is like, glaringly obvious. It explains a lot of "quirks" from my childhood too.

Having such a terrible sleep schedule sure puts me in downer mood, I think. But I still have a lot of things to get done!

Insomnia

9 days ago

Yeah, I've heard that people with ADHD can have trouble with insomnia. Maybe you should talk to your doctor about it if it's gotten really bad. :(

Insomnia

9 days ago

I get insomnia every other day. Now that Fall is really beginning to feel like Fall, this shouldn't be as much of a problem. Sorry to hear about your situation.

Insomnia

9 days ago

Wow, that sounds really bad. Does your brain get really over-active?

Insomnia

9 days ago

Only if I have something on my mind. But summertime heat is overwhelming. I live in South Texas.

Insomnia

9 days ago

Ah! Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. It gets really hard to sleep when it's super hot. >.<

Insomnia

9 days ago

I really do feel for you. I don't have insomnia, but I can't sleep straight for 4 hours. So I'll wake up in the night randomly to have to wait another hour to fall back asleep. 

I was on my vacation when you couldn't sleep, so I don't know how it affects you, but I really do feel for you.

 

Insomnia

9 days ago

Thanks Dave. That's really nice of you to say. ^_^

Insomnia

9 days ago

No problem, praying for you.

Insomnia

9 days ago

Thank you <3

Insomnia

9 days ago

Have you tried sleeping pills? When I have trouble falling asleep, 2 pills are enough to make me fall asleep within at most an hour.

Insomnia

9 days ago

Yeah, but like I said, they only knock me out for about 4 hours and don't actually make me feel any less tired. :(

Insomnia

9 days ago
Yeah I've been having the same problem lately :) I just watch comedy sitcoms until I'm tired enough to sleep, I don't try to push it or anything but just tick through them. The first few hours are fun and then the characters and situations start to get a bit repetitive so the mind starts to get a bit bored and because it is already comfortable from all the comedy it settles down :) The trick is not to get distracted doing other stuff or flitting between different series because that gives it stimulus. Also when feeling a bit stressed comedy is always the best thing to roll with anyway, even if you don't find it funny at the very least it's not doing any harm while thinking or worrying would and it should be interesting or funny enough that your thoughts don't wander :D

My advice :P

Insomnia

9 days ago

That's an interesting one. I haven't heard that before. Suppose next time I could try a Trailer Park Boys marathon. :p

Insomnia

9 days ago

Well, happy to say that I actually slept really well last night, so it's definitely not as bad as it was the first time. I think I just need to try and keep my mind focussed on one thing at a time, otherwise it gets really overactive and I can't sleep.

Insomnia

9 days ago

Hurray! Glad you're sleeping better.

Insomnia

9 days ago

Really Glad your sleeping better!!! 

Insomnia

8 days ago
Hey, sorry to hear you’re struggling to sleep- I’ve also struggled for a long time. If it’s especially bad I like listening to ASMR, especially Asmrctica because I like maps and he has a soothing voice. Beyond sleeping pills, which I also don’t like taking, camomile tea and Valerian root teas can help, as well as the breathing pattern in for 4, hold for 7, out for 8 (although not seconds it’s more like half seconds according to the guy who made it).

Hope this helps!

Insomnia

8 days ago

Thankz AzBaz. Annoyingly, the insomnia's gone and gotten really bad again and I didn't sleep at all last night, but I did end up going to the doctor and getting some sleeping pills in the end. I really don't like taking them, but they'r better than nothing.

Insomnia

8 days ago

Probably best not to take them right before you go to bed. Then you'd just be dead tired in the morning. I know from personal experience.

Insomnia

7 days ago

Oh... When do you take them then? o.o

Insomnia

7 days ago

Haven't done that in a while. Several hours before going to sleep. Probably better just to consult the doctor about when best to take the pills. I don't want to give you any bad advice.

Insomnia

7 days ago

That's fair enough... Or I could always just look it up on the internet... 'Cos the internet is always right! :p

Insomnia

7 days ago

Always try to avoid drinking any caffeine several hourse before going to bed. And probably not a good idea to do any heavy reading right before bedtime. That'll generate too many Beta brainwaves.

Insomnia

7 days ago

Really? I always thought it was supposed to be good to read before bed.

Insomnia

7 days ago

I have heard that valerian root is a natural supplement that helps. I also struggle a bit with this, but for me it’s always because I am distracted. If I have something to do (tv, book, computer, Endmaster story-game) I’ll choose that over sleeping. If I lay in bed and turn everything off, eventually I just get bored or realize how tired I am and sleep. I think a lot of people get good at distracting themselves. I’m not saying that is you, particularly if you have a medical issue, but that is my problem. For me I have learned if I force myself to laystill for an hour sleep eventually comes...but I hardly ever do that until 2:00 or 3:00 am lol!

Insomnia

7 days ago

Nah, unfortunately that's not working for me at all. Last night I lay in bed for three and a half hours. Couldn't get to sleep. So I read for about half an hour and then tried again. Still didn't work. What happens when I have insomnia is that I end up just laying in bed for hours trying to get to sleep and it just doesn't work. >.<

Insomnia

7 days ago

I know if you have a big meal a few hours before you go to bed, that could keep you up. You don't eat a lot before you go to sleep, do you?

Insomnia

7 days ago

Nah. I mean, I eat my dinner at about 6, so that's awhile before I go to bed. ^_^

Insomnia

7 days ago

I’m sorry to hear that, I hope you are able to find what works for you! Everyone is different so it might be worthwhile to experiment with different supplements and techniques. 

Insomnia

7 days ago

Yeah. Well I'm hoping that now I've gotten sleeping tablets and antidepressants, I'll be able to go back to normal. The antidepressants seemed to work straight away last time, so hopefully I can put this little relapse behind me and get back to normal. Will keep you posted tomorrow.

Either way, I think talking about it has helped a lot, so thanks all you guys for listening and giving me advice on what to do. <3

Insomnia

7 days ago

Best of luck to you. The older I get, the more I suffer Insomnia. 

Insomnia

7 days ago
Yay, crazy person fun times!

I mean, uh, really sorry to hear that, Avery! I have no advice to offer you as I am most often at the other end of the spectrum, finding myself falling asleep much more often and for longer than I would like. Good luck with whatever you attempt, and I hope the problem goes away quickly. Maybe you should sit down to do some illustrations and see if you sleep. If not, you'll at least get some nice illustrations done!

Insomnia

7 days ago

That sounds like a really fun idea. Thanks Ogre! ^_^

Insomnia

7 days ago

Well, I'm afraid it's only getting worse. I took two of the sleeping pills that the doctor perscribed me last night, and I still didn't get any sleep. Had to call him up again today to get him to perscribe me stronger sleeping pills. Hpefully they'll at least knock me out for a few hours.

I think the whole thing stems for anxiety, despite the fact that I don't really have anything serious to worry about. I'm just worrying about little things that don't really matter. It's frustrating because in my head, I know that I don't need to be up all night worrying about incosequential things. I have a great life, I'm in love with a wonderful man, I have everything I need, so I don't really have anything I need to worry about. Still, for whatever reason, I keep on worrying anyway. It's like I have no control of my own brain. And then I can't sleep, and then I get ten times worse because I haven't had any sleep. So basically, the longer I don't sleep, the harder it is to sleep. >.<

 

Insomnia

7 days ago
:(

Insomnia

6 days ago

Yeah, very much so. I just want to get better so bad, but I feel like there's nothing I can do... I really do not function well without sleep. :(

Insomnia

6 days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5k0ZG6XcA click on this link. It's Alpha Wave music from Doctor Jeffrey Thompson. Maybe listen to this before you go to bed, preferably with headphones on.

Insomnia

6 days ago

Awh! That's pretty! ^_^

Insomnia

6 days ago

I'm so sorry to hear that. Be careful how many sleeping pills you take; that can get dangerous. I couldn't sleep last night, either, for some reason. Although I did see the Joker movie-- that was pretty good. I'm sorry about your anxieties. I have OCD so I know how that can be. When in doubt, just close your eyes. That will cause your brain to start producing Alpha brainwaves, which are associated with daydreaming and meditation. That might at least help calm you. Also make sure the temperature's not too cold, as cold temperature will make your body struggle to warm itself. And too hot goes without saying.

Insomnia

6 days ago

Ah damn, I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you can sleep better tonight.

I'd say the temperature is just about right, so no need to worry abut that. And I'll try the closing my eyes to calm myself down thing. I think it's working now. Either that or it just helps that I'm getting stuff off my chest.

Insomnia

6 days ago
Ok, so here's some other random ideas that have worked for me: Lie there and try relaxing every single muscle in your body, one at a time. Start with your toes on one foot. When those are really and completely relaxed, you can move on to your foot. Make sure you don't forget the other foot. Really focus on getting the muscle completely relaxed before you move on. If you stir or move, you have to start over. I've never even made it to my waist before I'm gone (even if it does take some time). Count. No really, keep going. Just start at 1. You won't run out of numbers. I think the repetitive nature of it kills any other thoughts. It kind of gets hard when you get up into six-digit numbers, but it's worked for me. Prepare for sleep with light: one of the biggest tricks that has worked for me is to see the sun set. I don't mean staring into the sun or anything, but simply my eyes noticing the gradual reduction in sunlight while the sun sets absolutely shuts my body down. When I lived in Alaska, this could result in me going to sleep at 3:30 in the afternoon. But even beyond that, stay away from the bright lights and blue lights when you're preparing for sleep. For me just turning on the white bathroom light can completely wake me up when I'm almost asleep. And the blue lights are the TV and computer screens -- unless you have a blocker (I like f.lux) that will keep your mind engaged. My body really shuts down when it avoids all that blue and white light like nothing else. Good luck and I hope you do feel better quickly!

Insomnia

6 days ago

Progressive relaxation is similar. You take every muscle group one by one (starting at feet or face) and individually tighten the muscles for about five seconds, then release. If you still feel tension, tighten the muscle group again for five seconds. Then move on to the next group. The idea is that flexing the muscles tires them, so they end up relaxing by default without one having to will them to relax. I've done this a few times and it does seem to work, especially if the mind is over-active.

Insomnia

6 days ago

Thanks Ogre. Those are all some really great ideas. I think I'll give those  try tonight. Either way, the sleeping tablet should knock me out for a few hours at least,

Insomnia

5 days ago

Just wanted to keep you all updated. I took one of the sleeping pills at about 10 last night and fell asleep straight away, but woke up again at 2.30 and couldn't get back to sleep.

I always feel really weird using those sleeping pills because it doesn't actually feel like you've slept. Like, you'll close your eyes and then when you wake up you'll feel like "Damn! I still can't sleep!" Then you'll look at the clock and be like, "Wait... I've been asleep for 4 hours? WTF?" Then you have to go through the agony of spending the rest of the night laying in bed, trying to get to sleep and not being able to.

That said, I guess 4 hours is still better than nothing, and I've been feeling a lot better today than I was yesterday. Really hope it gets better soon, because I'm so tired. >.<

Also, sorry about constantly repeating myself every day, but I think it just helps me to write things down and get it off my chest.

Insomnia

5 days ago

Repeat yourself all you like.  I like hearing the update, but I'm sad you only got four hours.  Sleeping is hard.

Insomnia

5 days ago

But it shouldn't be hard though. I love sleeping! I can usually sleep for hours and hours.

Insomnia

5 days ago

In cartoons, a large wooden mallet always seems to do the trick, but then you have to deal with the birds flying around your head in a circle.

Insomnia

5 days ago

In the future, you could also try different brands of sleeping pills. My mother uses sleeping pills everyday, but the only brand that works for her is a Chinese brand.

Insomnia

5 days ago

I don't know. I'm told that sleeping pills can be addictive and I don't want to get addicted to them. :(

Insomnia

5 days ago

That they are, unfortunately.

Insomnia

5 days ago

Even if you can't sleep you should still close your eyes and try to relax. That's still a form of rest.

Insomnia

5 days ago

Yeah, it's just so hard to relax because of the anxiety.

Insomnia

5 days ago

I tried listening to those brain wave sound app thingies once and I fell asleep within 5 minutes. (I was hyped up on caffeine, too.) Maybe try one of those?

Insomnia

5 days ago

I don't like asmr much, I try to focus on the words too much. But I like this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/user/EphemeralRift

Insomnia

5 days ago

I think I kind of want to focus on words though, because then my brain is thinking about the story instead of other things that make me anxious.

Insomnia

5 days ago

Well about the only thing I can suggest at this point is you're fortunate enough to have a significant other, so there's a potential physicaly activity you two could do until you exhaust yourself to a point of getting sleepy. Should help with the anxiety/stress as well.

Insomnia

5 days ago

He's right,  this physical activity with your significant other is the equivalent of running 6 miles. I don't know how bad your situation is, but 6 miles should be enough to knock anyone out, right?

Insomnia

5 days ago

Lightweight.

Insomnia

5 days ago

Well, it's a suggestion at least. :p

The only trouble with that is that being sleepy/exhausted doesn't actually have any effect on my ability to sleep. I'm already exhausted. :'(

Insomnia

2 days ago

... Yeah, it's not getting better. I think it must be at least 10 days since I slept. Maybe more, I can't really remember anything. It feels like it's been going on forever.

My doctor put me on Diazepam, and that seems to help a lot with the anxiety and calms me down a lot... But still, I just can't sleep at all. Nothing seems to work... Not sure why I'm saying this because I think that everything's already been suggested but... Yeah... I just really need sleep. :'(

Insomnia

2 days ago

Nothing makes it harder to sleep than knowing that you have to sleep, too.  Then the stakes feel higher, and sleep runs away.  I know for me when I can't sleep that's what happens.

Insomnia

yesterday

Easy way to get sleep: Just buy some melatonin pills and down a couple

Hard way (Literally): Get someone to knock you out with a blackjack 

Insomnia

yesterday

I used to take Melatonin pills. It was always best to take them several hours before going to bed. Otherwise, I'd be dogged tired the next morning. 

Insomnia

yesterday

Yeah, for me melatonin works wonders for going to sleep two hours earlier than I normally would.

Insomnia

yesterday

Try doing this, just cross your legs on your bed, put your hands on your knees and just close your eyes, and be like that for five to ten minutes. Don't squirm around and just lose yourself in the environment. Then just imagine your body falling down on your soft bed and your head being cradled by your pillow. Keep focusing on your breathing throughout and just leave your muscles loose. Then imagine your mind going into a deep blackness and nothingness for infinity. 

If this still does not work, what I usually do is just have a huge bowl of yogurt, until I'm stuffed (non-flavored, otherwise the sugar rush will worsen your condition), and then imagine the above steps.

 

Insomnia

yesterday
So sorry to hear that nothing's working!